for example, the same polyester can be turned into, let's say, camouflage , the anti-infrared material is camouflage, well , how, of course, i won't tell you, because you understand, it's only after obtaining the relevant patents, and then i think that this question is not subject to disclosure , this is not relevant for today, but as you can see the results are quite good, ee i will say it as it is, that is, any invention, including this substance and... the anti-infrared material that i created, it has certain disadvantages , that is, needs actually improvements that i'm currently working on, but if you consider that today this material, if you look at these videos that are published, i can see, as you can see, even the car, the hood of the car, where the engine is running, and basically even on directly at such close distances, we can see how it massages the heat trace, er... i want

to pay attention to something else in this case, i think everyone who is related to this topic knows, for example, there are such camouflage systems, as the same system from the world-famous swedish company sap, it very cool stuff, this camo system allows you to mask both the equipment and the manpower, this is right on the video, now you see, it's on the left side, it's made by me, made by me, made by me, and on the right side is the factory actually. we can see the difference, as you can see, the heat trace in the upper part, when you switch, both in the infrared spectrum and in other spectra of light, it shines through, that is, we see that in essence the substance that i created, it is no worse, and maybe even better from those materials that are offered on our market. mr. eduardo, i would like to ask if your minister is aware of this decision. ministry of defense or minstratekhprom to

somehow get involved in the process of involving your development for the needs of the armed forces? look, to date, i applied to the ministry of defense back in june, and after that i registered my development, there is such an integration platform vip1, so-called, i think you have already heard about it, so the point is, that is, you if you have certain military designs, you can register on this platform. which i did back on june 5, 2024, to date my development is undergoing a defense examination, so in principle we are waiting for an answer. in general, on this issue, i would like to literally stop for one minute and explain, that is, i proposed a certain concept to the ministry of defense a few months ago, because what is the problem, in fact , in ukraine there are a lot of inventors, inventors, self-taught, as they are called , eh in our society... we are not used

to taking them seriously, but if in principle we let's go back to history, i think it's no secret for anyone that the same edison, the same bell, in fact, the most famous inventors in the world, who have tens of hundreds of patents behind them, these people who created it, let's say, the forerunner of the telephone , or the same thing, for example, the incandescent lamp, other technologies, these were all self-taught people, that is, they were not some scientists with diplomas there, and the question is what... the question is that i proposed to go the other way, that is, one thing , when you pour money into a certain scientific institute, but is there desire and inspiration? do those workers create something new? we, if we study the practice of the world, we see that all technologies are actually created by startups, that is, companies, beginners, or large private companies, which have an interest in creating something new, and in this case, what kind of... i suggested, maybe

would be to create in this way, whatever, we literally have one minute, so summarize and so that the audience is satisfied, well, summing up, i will turn, well, for today, i just think that the question the tests are dragging on enough, i believe that such issues should be done quickly, that is, there should be a person, a curator, for example, in the same institutes that are subordinate to the ministry of defense, and they should specifically work from scratch. we, that is, it should be done promptly, because even if out of ten ideas submitted by ukrainian inventors, if only one actually finds application, this is still a big plus. we have a huge scientific potential in the person of these self-made inventors, which we do not have in ukraine is used, and what else can i wish for the inventors themselves: the problem is: many people are afraid to become an inventor or to create something new, because they look at their product or their development, and it is for...

it turns out that it is primitive, it does not you need to be afraid, because the greatest inventions that humanity uses today, starting with airplanes, cars, all of them were primitive in the beginning. the question is that the state should support inventors in every possible way and help them in the implementation of their developments, or prove to the end, if this invention has, well, some result can be applied, or actually explain that it does not work, let's go another way, thank you very much for the inclusion, for the explanation, for your development, we will accompany the forces of channeling, after some time again we will contact you to explain what stage yours is at. and i will remind our viewers that it was eduard pukanich, an entrepreneur and inventor, who offers our armed forces a new special anti-infrared coating. such were the main, main emphasis of this wartime, then the broadcast will continue with turi fizer with what i hope is a very interesting guest, so

stay tuned to the espresso channel. thanks to serhii zgurets and his military men. at the end of the day, as always, he summarized in detail what happened at the front and what new developments we have for the ukrainian army, and now, as always, we invite you to join the project from scratch to life, which is a collection of atvs for the rapid evacuation of the wounded and delivery of ammunition. support the soldiers of the 93rd separate mechanized brigade of the cold ravine with a donation. our defenders choose victory every day, no leaving the wounded on the battlefield and. fallen, therefore, atvs are indispensable assistants for evacuation, and they also allow you to move as quickly as possible on the road, which means that you can perform combat tasks more efficiently. warriors who have already passed more than one test at zero are always ready to

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chervinskyi. mr. roman, i congratulate you and glory to ukraine. greetings, i'm sorry, i don't know your name. my name is yuriy, i have a great honor. to talk to you, this is an opportunity to talk to you, and let's, you know, before going into the conversation in more detail, to your affairs, my first question will be this, please tell me who crossed the road so much, the ex-intelligence officer , although i do not know whether it is possible to call the spy ex-spy roman chervinskyi, i do not know in the office of the president of ukraine or elsewhere that they with the help of... the courts have been organizing such tent circuses for so long? yuriy, we talk about this a lot, your channel constantly participates in these meetings, we all understand this, we know, you know, i was released,

as you say, i was in a prison camp for half, almost a year and a half, there for a year and three months , and visited a little bit, visited with my family, saw my children, and all this with... er, let's say, everyone tries to leave negative emotions behind, er, i just want to say that yes, that people who so can create such illegal obstacles on at such a level, in such and such a number of judges, er, in ukraine, they have, i believe, have the highest power in ukraine, er, you can understand, yes, what level these people are, so it is on their conscience, we , i want to... will focus that i will prove my innocence and i would like your support, us, me, what exactly your support helped me get out, this is good, this is the beginning of the road to a fair trial and a fair decision of the court, the most important thing for me, and on whose conscience is it, er,

we will pass in the end, when our judgment, our the ukrainian court will take the courage and the opportunity to make a legal and correct decision, i think that then i will... clearly be able to say, yes, well, not that clearly, i know it, i am sure of it, i don't want to be like that to people who judge in absentia. without coming out openly er into some open such confrontation, covertly, meanly and using their opportunities, against an ordinary fitz, yes, against an ordinary one, like all the ordinary guys who fight at the front, they act like this, and that's why i want exactly, that we show the strength of our public opinion, of all the people who are in ukraine, that we will still prove, with the help of... these forces , i will prove my innocence and it's all clear,

i just don't want to name directly, because for me it's during the war in such a situation in our state, i want our soldiers to be inspired and pay attention to the results of our actions, to our achievements, and not to such actions of such people, because it is, after all, destroying their positions, it demoralizes those guys, about whom you just spoke about, who fight, who... defend our territory every day with their lives and the lives of our children, our loved ones, our wives, mothers, er, fathers, that's why it's going to happen, we'll definitely prove, well, at least we 'll do our best to prove your innocence, but i think that i, too i think so, but our viewers, well, they understand who you mean and understand your position in this case. let's talk about one of the cases, about one of the cases, about the second later, which you are accused of, and it is

related to the shelling of the kanatove airfield on july 22, 2022, what exactly are you here for accused, and why, despite all the evidence of your lawyers, the court still kept you in custody for so long, the court and... using, let 's say, flowing around the wording of the law, where judges give the right, let's say, to evaluate the validity of my suspicion, no, well, no delving deeply into the case, although the law provides that the judge must clearly define the evidence that proves it, but the judges simply do not pay attention to it, that there is no evidence, but it is written, in reality it looks good, in fact... when we take it, i ask in the judge: show me the evidence that proves it these formulations, which are set out in the suspicion,

do not exist, they are based on the norms of european legislation, where the suspicion does not need to be substantiated as deeply as the accusation, and they went like this, although our legislation provides that i have the right to challenge the defense of the suspicion , so we contested it with our lawyers, for the first time in october of the 23rd year, at the shevchenko court. i will, say, confirm it, but the appellate court, almost a year has already passed, still cannot consider this issue, they replaced themselves, transferred this case to other judges through the supreme court tried, they did not succeed, this indicates that they realize that the suspicion in itself is not unfounded already for a year, and therefore, when we came to the court of first instance and began to consider this case in substance, again they postponed the consideration of the substance of the suspicion, well, the prosecution already... the moment and its validity closed me, they got me for 615, allegedly

automatically extending my detention during the martial law, and now that they continued, when they are already forced to consider the validity accusation suspicions, well, they had no other choice, because this is already in kropyvnytskyi, they live there, you understand, and when the people of kropyvnytskyi themselves, i thank this city very much, for me this city is a hero, because its bags showed their clear. position, yes, they came to the courts, defended themselves, the number of people who visited increased, very authoritative people visited there, volunteers, er, scientists, teachers and so on, so for me it is, you know, very pleasant, i made many friends , at that time i was presented with the whole story morally, because i was not ready to accept that our state can so generally and baselessly accuse people who give their lives for it, well, for the state, for the people. well, we understand, we say that this is not the state, these are all such individuals, yes, mr. roman,

but please tell me, don't you think that because this case was referred to the court in kropyvnytskyi , they thought, they hoped, maybe there wouldn't be such support, and that's how they failed, yes, yes, and it appears, this is clearly your opinion and our guesses are confirmed by the fact that later, when they realized this, they at some stage, having already held three, five or six meetings, they... decided to close the meeting and hold it further in closed mode so that people do not come, shame on the judges , i say once again, kropyvnytskyi is not such a big city, and the judges have to go outside, tomorrow to the store, children there and so on. and then relatives and look into the eyes of these people, and they closed the meeting in order to continue it in closed mode, or to level it somehow, well, i don't know what's next strategy, but i see that this is a strategy, a media strategy in particular, and it is managed somewhere , well, from such a level, where you are not a judge, it is clearly visible and it is forgiven, that is why it is

precisely thanks to the participation of the media, your participation, they are somehow online tug of war. that is, the struggle is like this in the media space within the framework of this case? well , i just want to wish you strength, because it seems to me that our government will drag this case on for a long time, well, because it needs to show something, do something, but let's now talk about another case that was considered the day before, as far as i understand in the shevchenkiv district court of the city of kyiv, what is the essence of this case and where did it come from, i will not reveal it in detail. i will simply tell the history of this case, it was started by a provocateur of the security of ukraine in the 20th year immediately in relation to dmytro shtanko, the one who recorded yermak's brother during the collection of money for positions in the state, in the 19th year he died, he just did not come to authorities, he immediately began to promote the thesis that

he was forming personnel potential for its state bodies, and for each meeting he collected 10 00 $ each, well, that's short. and immediately the case of the swindled stoslana shtonka appeared, in the 20th year they formulated it, as if he demanded money from someone, fraudulently. here she was provoked, but immediately she was brought to court at 21 at the end of 20 at the beginning of the 21st year. since that time, not a single meeting was held, one preparatory one, at which this provocateur did not appear, and therefore they could not hold them, that is, she just lay there in court and that was it. and so they took from when this case began. invite to crumble they took the materials of that case, they just took it again, just like in the previous case, it was investigated by the sbu, again the sbu took it and wrote an expert opinion, which is what they think, they organized all the criminal actions, well, that's it, let's say a short story, and actually four years have passed since those events, 4.5 years, and it turns out that they

found out that it was me, that's all, although i was already interrogated in this case in the 20th year. i testify, they then assessed my actions as legal, they have no criminal actions in them did not see, but four years later they appeared, well, that is, you see how in our country, how, at the will of some person , signs of a crime appear in the actions of people four years after all this happened, then it will be even more necessary due to the fact that at the time when all this was happening, they were legally videotaped, even in the videotape made by this provocateur, there were no... criminal acts, not even intentions, not even requests, so they cut it, took this recording and threw it on the internet back then in the 21st year or in which year i am not i remember in the 20th, just to discredit, because they realized that if this video was given in full, then it clearly contradicts itself, well, this is an opinion, and that's it, well, this is ordinary manipulation, just at such a state level anyway, a colonel,

er, whoever i am there, well, who am i, well, we take a lot of such guys. it is taken and it is done, it sows a kind of mistrust and uncertainty in the future, the unpredictability of the law, its selectivity and so on, so here is such a short history of this case, we will also prove and we will, well this is in the old regime, but it was already proven in the first of this meeting, which took place when you said there yesterday, in the shevchenko court, but shevchenko surprises everyone, they cross all barriers, and also... the paradox of this is confirmed by the fact that the judge, imagine, before, again, choosing a preventive measure, she has to study again the validity or quality of the evidence, but she does not study them, she is not going to study them, she makes the decision to hand it over to herself he does not want to take this case to another court she organizes it, this judge, but at the same time

before that she considers that it is not necessary to keep him there under house arrest, he decides the case before. that is, she herself confirms that she will not consider it, but she wants to look at the decision on detention, well, it is absurd and it is really absurd, it is really absurd and be sure that the espresso tv channels, together with other pro-ukrainian tv channels, will call it yes, will provide you with informational support in order to prove this absurdity of everything that makes valid the ukrainian authorities through the courts against you, but let's talk about it anyway. yesterday's meeting, that is, yesterday's meeting ended with you being sent under house arrest, i understand correctly, under house arrest, i have no right to leave. of my apartment and stay here, so i continue to be in the cell, i joke with the children, but i already have roommates, so

it is more fun for me, my children, and we already play games with them, talk, that is, you can imagine, for it's mine, so i don't want to overshadow mine my first happy day in my life with some negative thoughts about these people, and you just know, i don't know how a person can live in such hatred for how many years and so... they had time for a year and a half to persecute an ordinary person, realizing that she is innocent, especially military, and i will repeat myself once again, i am not talking about myself, i am talking about all our soldiers, as it is, well, these are people who are filled with some kind of thirst for revenge, well, i don’t know what they are guided by, so i don’t even want to mention it, because it's my first day being here, i reconsidered a lot, a lot when i was under arrest... in sizo, so, you know, i still say that family, children, wife, mother, this is the most important thing, parents, we all have , they helped, my

wife went to every court, she was, she didn't miss a single court, so you know, i thank her all the time and i try to give everything that she put in there and support her, well, well, you understand, yes, what in me emotions and so on, so yuriy, thank you very much for your support, for your words, kind words about the fact that you... me do not leave, because it is the confidence that you will be there, it is this confidence that gave me the strength to fight all this time, and when i came here, my mother called me, she cries constantly, she says: i don't know how i endured it, but she, she, after what she saw yesterday, she says, well, i can't understand at all, well, she doesn't have it, but she says, i can hear from your voice that you are cheerful, you are confident in yourself, that's why mother it got easier, and that's important to me because, because you put in the effort, because you... think about all the mothers, all the boys who are fighting, that we will not allow to offend those, even with a word we will not allow to offend those who are ready to give their lives, and not those who allowed her to

all that is happening in ukraine now, and allows continues and plans to continue to do so, this is the most terrible thing, mr. roman, and the last question for you, please tell me, during this time, while you were sitting illegally in butsigarna, did you feel this support? but how strong she was and how much she helped you through it all, support, i mean my brothers, the support of journalists, the support of all those who consciously understand all the crimes of the ukrainian government. yuriy, imagine, yes, if an officer detained you, fixed it, you do your job, you are ready to give your life, everything, and here you are so brazen, cynical, and when you, at first i did not believe that such a thing was possible, yes, i will find out in the courts, until... the evidence is shown, i will prove it in words, here it is written in black and white, it is not true, it is completely contradictory, the judge does not pay attention to it and i will continue, that is, i used to, i spent 30 years in

the law enforcement system, i am with such, well, maybe i just never did that and did not even imagine that it could be like this, but i realized that our state is completely, completely destroyed, as the very institution of the state, the rule of law , it is impossible to talk about it here today in such circumstances. in such a situation with such courts, that is, i am sitting in this situation, that is, for 30 years i lived by the ideals of justice, and here it turns out that i live in another country, then such a thing does not exist, but thank god that i was supported by the guys in the these any cigars, bodyguards who traveled for me, starting with them, i them, they themselves, that is, i began to understand that people understand this, and therefore such are yours, your participation, first of all, the participation of those people who sincerely came and supported, for me it was... the only, the only hope for all this time, and it was constantly, you know, every day, i thought that i will come now, maybe no one will be there, maybe no one will support, and that's how i used to be like

a swing, or a pelvis, you know, all the flights from hell to heaven every time, i come in court, i look, there are people, that's all, i'm already sure, i'm already good, i can talk about it, and that's why only, only this one power that remains, it's still the power of the people, the power of glasnost, and your fourth power , she... confirmed that this force, it is stronger, it is more willing, you know, but it is no longer overpowering, no matter how much they cheat there, if they do not twist these materials there, if the judges do not pretend to be judges, no withdrew, but all the same it is slowly moving towards justice, towards the truth and it will come, i have already said, the more sincerely we come and will come, the greater justice will be, and the more our entire people will realize that this lie is not just selective, it is... everywhere, that is, the government uses some such false messages, false measures, events, coverage, it simply turns out to be a media war and the missing person.

against one's own people, against justice, that is, with the aim of continuing this power, well , somehow using the powers of authority in one's personal interests, well, on all fronts, that's why only your support and people from relatives and friends, brothers they came every time, gave me greetings, gave me words of support, because not all types of service in which i served in the units, not all can appear, this is intelligence, the security service, but everyone supported the family and... my wife, and i through her eyes, through her cheeks, through her words, i understood that there are very conscious people nearby, precisely those whom i respect, who also value the word justice, value the truth, and not value career whist, first of all, how i encountered you, i know, i was surprised, i gave the security services 30 years, i found such officers, generals, who are ready to change the shows by 180° opposite, today he says, there was

an operation, tomorrow he says: no, there was no, i banned it a month before it happened, and he can with these words and these actions, it's an officer to live on, i don't accept it, i know that such people, they will never protect ukraine, at a critical moment they will not do what we did in february 22, that's why your support shows that it is necessary to respect and support precisely those people who are ready to sacrifice themselves, and not those who for the sake of... positions and for the sake of the career future are ready to interpose those who are at the front today, that is why you are the one who instills hope in all the people who are fighting and show that we are not fighting for personal interests, but for the sake of the future of our children, who have to live in another country than it is today, and which was left to us after the previous, let's say, experiments of the russian government, and this is as a consequence, i consider all of this. thank you,

mr. roman, thank you. first of all for your service, thank him for your steadfastness, together we will win and we will be very hopeful already in the near future, to live in the country that you just mentioned, in another country, which does not have all the things that you told about this lie, this lie and so on, i thank you very much for participating in the program, it was a scout, colonel of sbu roman chervinskyi, talked to him about his criminal cases opened against him, illegally opened. he is accused of something bad, but he is sure that all this will end in nothing, because the truth must win. yes, so what, well, it is real, what mr. roman said, well, it is somehow not it is connected, especially his last words about what he saw, he met with generals who openly supported him, said that they would help

him. they said one thing at the trial, and then at the second trial they said something completely different, well , at least it doesn’t fit in my head, because that’s how i understand that we still have this judicial system that came, it has not yet been reformed, and in it has a lot of this sovietness, sovietness, it still lives in it, but something seemed to me that more and more something new, that i at least i was, maybe i was naive, but i was convinced that... in addition to the new form, something had changed and something else, some kind of essence of this organization, but unfortunately, as mr. roman says, unfortunately, this did not happen, and we see these verdicts that are passed in relation to him, and we see how what evidence is presented in court, and how they do not want to listen to the person who shows, proves to them that it is not true, that it is absolutely not as they

say and not only . this person proves, his lawyers, other people prove that it is not so, but no, the court is sending the testimony of those generals who at first once supported him, and then simply went the other way and started saying something completely different, this is terrible, but i still hope that time will pass and we will reform this country , we will change it and we will live in the country in which ukrainians should live. well, then the news. good evening, we are from ukraine. well, i'll start with this one, another one flew by. a russian sud-25 attack aircraft was shot down by anti-aircraft guns of the 110th separate mechanized brigade named after mark bezruchka in donetsk region. this was reported in operational-strategic grouping of hortys troops.