and here we are talking about the fact that china heavily subsidizes everything, that is, production and supplies. experts estimate that china spends, mind you, 5% of gdp annually on government subsidies, which is 10 times more than what the united states, great britain, and france do the same. germany and so on, so there is a specific threat and it is at the heart of this, so the investigation that is being conducted by the european union, whether china will want to argue with the european union and lose such a huge market, has a lot of doubt, so it is rather, i think, an emotional like that assessment of a british official. about

the lethal threat, although, ah, we know that the united states sees china as a rival and number one, not russia, but china, and we all know that, yes, china is also very particular about the uh- eh, will he manage to break, let's say, the global hegemony of the united states. well, on the other hand, we see really slightly different approaches or approaches that differ from the us, great britain, because these are still, we understand, the number one partners, yes, but at the expense of the european union and china, not everything is clear here, we see that china, representatives of china, representatives of the european union actively communicate with each other, let's even list them.

the meetings that were, yes, macron, orbán, scholz, meloni, yes, where, somewhere should meet, and, that is, in fact, the contacts there are at the highest level, so we see that after all, here china and the european union are trying, are trying to establish this cooperation, on the other hand, we observe that the european union, of course, is also trying to convince china. and not to support russia in the war with ukraine, at least informally, but in this case, can a black cat run between the countries of the european union and china? i think that this is about the pursuit of self-interest, both on the part of china and on the part of the european union, and you just mentioned the visits of the same scholz to china, so ... so,

like him, orban, so, and here we have, you know, there is such an expression, china's europe, china is building its allies in europe, hungary and serbia are among them, where, recently, xi jinping was also on a visit, and... uh, here is a special, so the feature is that these two countries, they, are very strongly in solidarity with the russian federation, and this unites both china and these two countries , which fall under the chinese europe project. as for the black intestine, ah, when scholz was in beijing, he spoke... mostly about the economy, because

the billions and billions of money invested by the german side in the chinese economy, they usually need to be implemented at the level of projects and such another, and they are needed to be defended, and they must be promoted, they must be implemented, so no one here will argue very much, of course, that scholz i... who seeks the end of the war on fair terms in kyiv, at least what he is talking about, he certainly tried some kind of influence to the leadership of the people's republic of china will make china influence moscow about the end of hostilities, but if...

china wanted to influence, it would influence, because all this talk about let's hold hands, friends, sit down at the table negotiations cease fire, they on the chinese side... predict absolutely nothing, which means the withdrawal of russian troops from the territory of ukraine and the cessation of shelling of our territory, where we lose people every day. mr. igor, what do you think about the rumors that appeared in the mass media this week about a possible stroke in sijin'. foam, yes, and some mass media have already begun, tentatively speaking, to consider various options, what will happen if he dies, or retires, so to speak, how true these rumors can be,

how true this information can be in general, and if so or not, why is it so spread in the mass media, and all over the place. the world, well, the purpose of this information, and it is even better to call it disinformation at this stage, because there are no official confirmations, so we believe that this is disinformation, it is, of course, ah, dispersed by those forces, those means that are behind aim to shake the power in china, of course, if we see after the end. central committee, from the 20th congress of the communist party of china, ah, when xi jinping goes out together with his partners in the politburo, and we see this broadcast to the whole of china,

there are no doubts, he has no stroke and so on, because if there was something, there are several unofficial markers in chinese. society, well, the main one, for example, stamps - this is the raising of the troops of the central military district, china, or at least the picket garrison, nothing like that happened, and it is fresh in our memory, so, uh, the only recent death, we note , former the prime minister, i mean that... in recent times, no such things have happened to any high officials of the people's republic of china, only the death of liketsyan, but he was already a former, and there are many other markers , which we

don't see, and the main thing is that he, i mean imbina, after the plenum ended calmly, that means he was pro'. shown on television screens. mr. igor, we sincerely thank you for your thoughts, for joining the broadcast of the political club, espresso tv channel. igor lytvyn, ambassador of ukraine to the people's republic of china in 2001, co-chairman of the ukrainian-chinese business council and, by the way, concurrently extraordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the dprk in 2000, 2000 and 2000. we have one more guest, expert, this is vladyslav kulmynskyi, former vice-prime minister for reintegration of moldova, director of the institute of strategic initiatives, already on the phone, as far as i

understand, yes, mr. vladyslav, we are glad to welcome you, good evening, good evening, thank you for the invitation, mr. vladyslav, ot let's talk about moldova, of course, our partner, also a friend's country. we see that there is a new defense strategy of the country. we see that the russian federation, the occupier state in our country, is actually defined there as an existential threat. so, how much do you rate? this new defense strategy of moldova is effective, and to what extent it really corresponds to reality, at least that 's what i see, but maybe you can tell more expertly about this

position? well, it is so, and it is obvious, because if russia did this to ukraine, to ukrainian a nation that they... consider fraternal, then what are they capable of doing with other nations that they do not consider fraternal, well, they are a deserving nation in general. they do not pay attention to the moldovan people, now it is obvious that there are no rules in the region, there are no red lines, russia has decided to redraw the political map of europe, to change the world order, russia is ready to fight to achieve its goal, and after what happened with ukraine, russia is the main the danger and the main threat to moldova, and babel. for many other reasons russia poses a threat to all countries

of the post-soviet space, without exception, you , who would like to independently choose the path of their development, that is, russia practically tells moldova, do you voluntarily enter our geopolitical space, sphere of influence, or war? of course, this is a threat, but this is how the leadership thinks, and the main question... here is different, but what does the vast majority of the country's population think, they think the same way, they also believe that the main threat to moldova is russia, and here is the answer to this question - no, because polls of public opinion, they show that the majority of the country's population adheres to the unrealistic point of view that it is possible to negotiate with russia, that russia will give us peace. that we need to be with the west and with the east, that is, to be a gray zone, a buffer that

can milk two cows, there are a number of people who believe that it is possible to remain in the russian sphere of influence, and this is after the war in ukraine, this is after all the victims and the suffering that russia brought, and now there is no clear answer to all these questions, and it seems to me that the answer to this question will have a key... importance in the parliamentary elections in the middle of next year, and these elections will be very important for moldova and for the european path, and mr. vladislav, now there are questions about transnistria, sociological surveys were conducted, and the citizens of moldova , of course, were asked what to do with transnistria, how to settle this issue, including one of the points was that... a forceful solution to the issue, in fact the return of the unrecognized transnistria under

the control of moldova by force, 75% of the respondents stated that they were against forceful option, after all, more than a political-diplomatic option, but in this case, after all, we see that the absolute majority of the inhabitants of moldova, they understand that they do not want a forceful solution to this issue, but... still, this issue is early whether it should be decided later, we understand it logically, your opinion is an expert, how much will moldova have to take certain risks or forceful confrontation, or maybe some methods will appear to do it politically, and again at your discretion when it can happen because we understand well, we... we understand moldova well, because we have, conditionally speaking, also occupied territories, albeit

a little in a different, different, so to speak, status? yes, but i will remind you that this has been happening in moldova since 1992, it's not a matter of today or yesterday , it's been 20 years. and uh, well, this is the attitude towards the settlement of the transnistrian conflict, it has always been there, it has not changed, i have seen, including many closed polls, that both the government and society in moldova are against the settlement of the transnistrian conflict conflict by force, and the only way that the government, society, considers pleasant, that is supported by society, is exclusively peaceful diplomats. settlement of the conflict, well , practically everyone in moldova will understand that

an attempt to resolve the conflict by force will mean drawing moldova into a war, and no one is ready for that, but you are right that this issue, it, it is already in almost some kind of frozen conflict there already no, but... this is 100%, and my prediction is that in the next two years this issue should be resolved exclusively peacefully diplomatic way, because now this status quo, which existed there for 24 years, 22 years, it no longer exists, it is no longer there, because the geopolitical situation in the region is already different, and attempts to maintain this status quo, they have no future, as it will be the settlement

of the transnistrian conflict, this is a very big issue, but i am sure that it will go hand in hand with the settlement of the regional situation, with the construction of some new security system in the region, it will be on the daily agenda, 100%. on the other hand, society is also not ready for any concessions, because any political party that makes the settlement of the transnistrian conflict its priority will seriously lose its rating, that is, we have a situation where, on the one hand, the status quo no longer exists, it no longer exists, and on the other hand, society is not ready to the settlement of the conflict through peaceful diplomatic means. by the way, from the latest information, joe

biden announced that he is withdrawing from the presidential race, 10 minutes. this information appeared on his official facebook page a while ago, well, we will follow, maybe we will sort it out a little later, well, that too was expected, and this will have very serious consequences, both for moldova and for ukraine, because it seems that if donald trump wins these elections, then we will probably return to the politics of agreement, and if we are there... let's look at how it happened, well, let's take the year 1814-15 , the congress of vienna, where four states, five states agreed on what the political map of europe would look like, or we will take, for example, 1917- 18

years after the first world war, when there that means 27 countries took part in the versailles congress, but there was a big four that practically resolved all issues regarding the political map of europe, and the only country that did not agree with it was turkey, whether yalta, or potsdam, or another, because after, because practically all such big, big wars, they ended with agreements, and president biden was very important for moldova and for ukraine. figure, because he said that there should be no agreements without ukraine or without moldova, if this is the position, well, possible president trump, this is a very big issue that will have very big implications for us. and one more question that concerns the elections in moldova, in fact

the presidential elections should be held, later it is clear that the parliamentary elections. at mayasandu , the president of moldova is actually in the first position according to the rating, and it is clear that russian or pro-russian forces will try to mold some new candidate or a new old candidate, that's how far it is now in general during the upcoming election campaign... we see that russia is trying to her to intervene, and is there a possibility that the pro-russian forces will nominate some new, or as i said, old candidate who will be able to catch up with the current president of moldova in terms of ratings and even defeat her, although again, according to the ratings as of now,

she is number one and there, if i'm not mistaken, she has about 40 or even more. support among the country's population? so now she is the number one candidate, the president has sanda and she has the best chance to win the election, but russia will do everything possible to well, practically the government of moldova and the presidential elections, so that maya sando does not win the presidential elections, so that her political party does not win the parliamentary elections. why? because president sandu. she practically emphasized moldova's position that we will no longer negotiate with russia, we will no longer be in the gray zone, we will no longer be a buffer, and our... the only way is the way to the european union, this determines that russia practically loses influence on moldova and these levers of influence is already

decreasing, and therefore they will do their best in order for president sandu not to win these elections, but in the history of moldova, by the way, no single person has ever won the presidential election twice, but the president has sandu, she has the best. chances, because her opponents are on the left wing, and the left wing is the pro-russian wing, they, they are fragmented, they agreed for a very long time on a single candidate, did not agree on anything, and in the end they all went to the elections, and this will fragment their the electorate and practically guarantees a victory, a victory for president maysand, but it will be only in one if there is no destabilization, it is very important, because... well, the fact that there are so many candidates is in favor of president sun, but if there is destabilization, it will change the picture, the political picture in moldova, because

maysand has two main achievements: the fact that it was possible to preserve peace in moldova, to prevent war from entering the country, and moldova has gained geopolitical certainty, a real prospect of joining the european union has appeared, a clear, clear path. development of the country, but if there will be destabilization in moldova, then this can very quickly destroy its political rating, and this is a very dangerous thing, for example, through gagauzia, not through transnistria, but through gagauzia, this time it is now for moldova, there is such a threat of destabilization due to the autonomous region of hausa. mr. vladyslav, thank you for... joining us, for expressing your thoughts, vladyslav kulmynskyi, former vice, vice prime minister for reintegration

of moldova, executive director of the institute of strategic initiatives, was in live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. we are going for a short one a pause, after which we will talk about the actual departure of the president of the united states of america joe'. biden from the presidential presidential race, he announced this literally 10 minutes ago, so do not switch, stay on the espresso tv channel. events, events that are happening right now and affect our lives, of course, the news feed reports about them, but it is not enough to know what is happening, it is necessary to understand. antin borkovskyi and invited experts soberly assess. events, analyze them, modeling our future, every saturday at 1:10 p.m with a repeat at 10:00 p.m., studio evening with anton borkovsky at espresso. the premium sponsor

of the national team represents. united by football, stronger together. politklub - live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. we continue to work, and now we will discuss the hottest event, of course, this evening for ukraine and this day for the united states of america, for the whole world, that joe biden withdrew from the presidential race. we already have food, with which we will be. this is to be discussed, and there is no guest yet, they tell me, let's go then, let's see then, what happened: joe biden

in fact, published a letter with his signature on his social networks, where he announced that he is withdrawing from the presidential election, but he remains the current president until the end of his term, that is, until january 20 of next year, by the way, on his screens you can see this letter, it's been made public on both facebook and the x social network, in it biden is clearly expressing his thoughts, thanking, thanking the people, thanking the americans, saying that... america must continue to be a democracy, well and about what he accepts actually such a decision, you can go to his social networks, re-read, re-watch.

because this, well, of course, it is very important for the whole world, and it is clear that it is important for ukraine, to make such a decision today, and we also now absolutely do not know who will be the candidate from the democratic party, who will actually become , well , if not biden’s successor, then the person who will be removed from biden’s political power, and likewise... it could also be kamala harris, the current vice president of the united states of the states of america, it could be one of the current governors, well, let's see, then the decision will be made by the democratic party, actually by the leadership, by people who are members of the democratic party, it will also be very interesting to see how this election will take place, because joe biden was de facto elected

in the primaries and... by the way, in these primaries almost 100% voted for him, that is, all the delegates voted for him, and he was elected, now, how to do it during these primaries, for me, for example , it's hard to imagine because this is a very long process, on the other hand, we understand that the democrats still have about two to three weeks, or up to a month, of time. i am in order to choose a candidate, if we start from the priority date, then it will most likely be somewhere in the first decade of august, that is, we are really talking about three weeks, most likely, and who it will be, it is also important, because now the democrats will look at the ratings, they will look at possible likes for this one. people

will look at how this candidate is perceived in the democratic party, and how clearly he can beat trump, because still, even up to today, if we talk about polls, they were still somewhere around the margin of statistical error, and here it's very much a biden decision, given all that... the pressure, given that he made this decision, is also controversial, well, finally we have our guest on the call, oleg shamshor, diplomat, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the united states of america from 2005-2010, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to france in 2014-2020.

mr. olezh, we are very glad to see you, good evening, congratulations, congratulations, mr. olezh, well, you already know, you see, so to speak, what happened, the current president of the united states of america, joe biden withdrew from the presidential race, he published his letter on social networks, an appeal to the people of the united states of america, what do you think? why did biden take such a step, because even today, even a few hours before the broadcast, there was information that he is not going to withdraw from the presidential race, now we see the complete opposite situation, how do you assess why he came to such a decision, in fact, i was watching cnn this morning and there was a general opinion that... he is

under pressure, but for now he firmly intends to continue participating in the presidential race, the presidential race. well, in principle, on the other hand, almost everyone who commented on the situation said that this weekend could be decisive, it really became decisive. the reason, well, first of all is that, to the pressure. well, in such a vanguard of pressure on biden , members of the house of representatives and the senate of the united states, who saw how their chances for re-election were significantly complicated, joined the pressure, the heavyweights of her democratic establishment and, above all , the nenets pelosi and...