tv [untitled] July 22, 2024 12:30pm-1:01pm EEST
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the secretary of state of the united states of america, antoniy blinken, stated that israel and hamas are allegedly close to a truce, he also stated this, the american press and american online publications are saying this in part. at the same time, we see that johnson publishes a peace plan for ukraine and allegedly says that this... conditionally speaking, it could be trump's peace plan, yes, well, these are the parallels, so to speak, that we have now, mr. igor , how do you generally assess the closeness of this truce, possible or whether it can really be implemented between israel and hamas in the near future, or again, it will all be disrupted and postponed for some certain.
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well, the problem is that there have already been many such rumors about a truce, yes, that is, for almost several months we have been watching the attempts of both the american administration, first of all, and those of the arab countries, first of all egypt, to organize just such a truce. i, so far it is rather further than we want, and... because there are positions of netanyahu, there are positions of far-right members of the israeli government, there are several political decisions that have been taken by the israeli government recently, which create serious problems in the future in general for negotiations between palestinians and israelis, which speaks to a possible benefit. well, more precisely,
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about the fact that such an agreement can be signed, and obviously, these are statements by the military that if such an agreement is signed, then most likely the situation in the north of israel, near the lebanese border, will normalize, this , this reasoning is quite, well, quite appropriate, given the fact that... hezbollah repeatedly in their, well, hezbollah leaders repeatedly emphasized in their speeches the fact that they are fighting against israel in response to israel's war in gaza, uh, that is, this aspect is taken into account by the representatives of the israel defense forces, and from their side we hear support for efforts to conclude an agreement with hamas. but if we're just... purely theorizing
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how, what do you think this agreement might be, or at least some drafts of an agreement, maybe what, what 's meant by that, because, well, if the secretary of state of the united states is talking about it america, so he has some kind of minimal idea about it, what, what, how it is should look like in general, whether it is some kind of temporary or permanent, or there will be some postulates. which will really take into account at least partially the interests of the parties, how do you see it? well, there is no other agreement than trump's proposal, yes, that is , we must understand, it is a three-stage period, the exchange of hostages, the cessation of hostilities in gaza, the gradual withdrawal of israeli forces from gaza, the complete complete cessation of war and the day after, so the problem is really , that... there is no this day after, that is, in
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all these discussions, mostly the majority parties focuses on the first and partly on the second stage, but it is not clear what to do next. hamas, by the way, is more likely to agree to a technocratic government, to the fact that it will lose power in the sector, but the israelis in this case would like to control, continue to control, gaza, if not directly, then at least indirectly. and this clearly contradicts the same plan of the americans. i think this question will definitely be raised during the visit of natanya, if it takes place, if biden, of course, recovers the answer. that is, all of these issues will be discussed. the key question is what will happen after that. that is, what will be the post-war gas recovery plan, the post-war settlement plan. israelis do now.
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certain steps that nullify, so to speak, the biden plan, here is the scandalous decision of the israeli government that they are abandoning the tusta solution, netanyahu's statements that... that the west bank of the jordan river is the original israeli territory and the like, but i think that this is an increase in the stakes for the start of negotiations with the americans, that is, after all, we are somewhere like we see that a more real truce, a more real agreement can be either closer to the presidential elections in the united states, or most likely even after, so if i think, you know i... i don't risk making predictions at all, because netanyahu's strategy is to delay the negotiations and delay the decision, and this is clear in the account that trump will come, and he expects that it will be easier to negotiate with trump and he will be able to get better terms,
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but since they are not completely sure that trump wins, then of course they will put their eggs in different baskets and... will continue to negotiate with biden in the expectation that they will still not be able to reach a full agreement before the election, especially when it comes to the day after. well, as far as i understand, there is also a certain political component, and it consists in the fact that benjamin netanyahu, in principle, would like to stay longer in his chair, and the actual solution of this issue, or rather the non- solution of this . the question prolongs his stay in the chair, yes, how much, without a doubt, this is a political animal, known, yes, that is, he is absolutely fixated on his power and his stay in the chair, and therefore it is clear that this is the primary task that he sees before him, another topic that
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i would like to talk about with you, this is the exchange of attacks, the houthis attacked , in fact, israel, telyaviv, israel responded with a rather powerful blow. yesterday on the positions of the houthis in yemen, how do you assess this situation, this may lead to further escalation between the yemeni houthis and israel, or is this a one-time action, more correctly, yes so to speak, and can this include, well, in principle, they have already included israel's allies, there... the united states of america, great britain, someone else, maybe? well, i want to note that the international coalition, which is designed to ensure freedom of shipping in the red sea, refused to do so at the port of al-qudei, precisely because it is
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the only port in yemen that accepts humanitarian cargo. what israel has done, of course, is endangering its very existence. er, well, or for the provision of humanitarian aid to yemen, and obviously critics of this there will be quite a lot of decisions, but as for the strike itself, there is no doubt that israel is demonstrating new capabilities in the middle east, this is, of course, a strike on yemen, which does not have such air defense, a serious one, that was a thing. which is obviously safe from the point of view of israel and for its planes, well , this is of course a kind of hint to iran that the israelis can conduct operations at a depth of 1,500 km, and will yemen
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respond, so will it be, and obviously the responses will be strikes from yemen, yes and strikes from other, friendly groups are necessary to note that the vast majority of the locators that tracked the drones, they are still concentrated in the direction, let's say to the east, yes, that is, not without a direction, in the direction of the south, here it turns out that the drone flew, as if from the territory of egypt, we do not know, how did he fly, israelis, israeli sources claim that he was spotted, but not identified as enemy, well, that's the question. in any case, it is obvious that there will be a continuation of this story, and this is, well, a systemic escalation, so to speak. but is the possibility considered that, for example, russia will arm the yemeni ushites,
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well, at least there were such rumors, of course, i do not completely believe in them, but you, more professionally, may be able to assess such a possibility of providing, for example, i used this thesis to put pressure on saudi arabia, but it was rather pressure and it was rather blackmail, and than you can imagine now direct supplies, if there will be something, it will still be supplies from iran, and accordingly, russia can work here directly, rather with tehran, yes, iran can be an intermediary in the transfer of some weapons. and it is doubtful that it will be russian, because, as you understand, if such a missile
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flies over israel and it is identified as russian, then the entire strategy of moscow, and the strategy of tel aviv, including the attempt to run between the droplets in relations with israel and, accordingly, on the contrary with moscow, it will be destroyed, so they will not risk doing it, but it is obvious that iran will.' chat weapons, and here it can be assumed that we houthis can get really new models of weapons with iran, and you know, the last question, if you can briefly, about iran, here you go, we you have already started talking about iran, anthony blinken, the secretary of state of the united states of america, stated that iran is close to creating nuclear weapons, even called it. terms of 1-2 weeks, that is, that they can technologically do it during this
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period, how realistic is it, and why does the entire secretary of state of the united states of america come out and announce all the information now? well, obviously, i don't think antony blinken is misinforming the public here, and obviously technologically, the iranians have that capability, well the question is so whether they will do it. or not, that is, in principle, this option has existed for a long time, that is, one, one, two weeks, well , a month or a half, that is, nothing has changed here, why is he saying this, well , maybe he is saying this in order to use this a fact in the negotiations with the israelis, because the israelis, as they constantly emphasize iran as a key threat, so, accordingly, the united states of america is ready. to stand in solidarity with israel on this issue, but instead
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they expect the israelis to give in the palestinian issue, and at least not the tough position that the government has taken now, that is, i consider it rather as an argument in the future negotiations with the israelis. mr. igor, we are extremely grateful for your thoughts, thank you, igor samovelos, director of the middle eastern center. was on the live broadcast of the political club on the espresso tv channel, we are moving on with you and we have the following guest on the line: ihor lytvyn, ambassador of ukraine to the people's republic of china from 1999 to 2001, co-chairman of the ukrainian-chinese business council. mr. igor, we are glad to welcome you. good evening. good evening. greetings to all our viewers. and great britain, the head of great britain
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stated that china is a mortal threat to great britain itself, so we have seen a certain radicalization of opinions and statements on the part of great britain, regarding the prc, how do you evaluate such and such things, such statements, and whether they are connected , perhaps, with the fact that... the other day, volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of ukraine, was in great britain? i believe that the usual visit of president zelensky to britain, his negotiations with the leaders of this country, they certainly added, let's say, to the mood of british officials, including the minister of defense. but i want to note at the same time that it is necessary to understand whether britain really
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considers china a mortal threat, because we can rely, let's say, on the declaration of the recent nato summit, where, as these newspapers write, it was stated that china is decisive. a factor, a threat, it doesn't say he's a threat, actually, it says he'll create a challenge, and those are different things. well, let's assume that the minister of defense called china a mortal threat, ah, i think it's about whether this will happen, so the axis of evil, ah, moscow, tehran, pyongyang, and in addition to them
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, beijing, then it will certainly be a mortal threat. for all mankind, and it goes to the fact that there is a mutual understanding there , and certain people can see it that way, i don't think that china is a mortal threat, because china is very much connected to the west, more than moscow, more than with iran, more than with north korea, which korea, by the way, recently. but china has expressed its, shall we say, dissatisfaction with the current one the policy of north korea, in such a way that it is clear in north korea, we are talking about a corresponding, so there is a correction of the supply of the corresponding goods that
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the north needs, so to think that china is a mortal threat, i ... state, let's count how many billions of dollars is china's foreign trade per year, it is approximately 6 trillion, how much of it is accounted for by russia, it is 240 billion, it is literally 2%, and how much is accounted for by trade with the countries of the european union? and the united states, it approximately 1.300 billion. last year it was more than 1.6. therefore, pragmatic china is unlikely to, let's say, play with its fate, losing such huge prospects that it currently has. all the more so now that
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the european union has started these... contributions of various means of investigation, the first of which concerns the import of electric cars from china. experts estimate that next year china can supply all the countries of the world with about 70 million cars, the world's current need is about 40 million for this. year and here it is also said that china heavily subsidizes the state, which means production and supplies. experts estimate that china spends, mind you, 5% of gdp annually
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on government subsidies, which is 10 times more than what the united states, great britain, france, germany and so on also do , so there is a specific threat, and it is the essence of this, means an investigation conducted by the european union. whether china will want to argue with the european union and lose such a huge market has many doubts. therefore, it is rather, i think, an emotional one assessment, aa british official. about the mortal threat, although, ah, we know that the united states sees china as a rival and number one, not russia, but china, and we all know that, yes, china is also very particular about whether
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it succeeds to break him, let's say so. global hegemony of the united states. well, on the other hand, we see really slightly different approaches or approaches that differ from the us and great britain, because we understand that they are the number one partners, right? but at the expense of the european union and china, here everything is not entirely clear, we see that china, representatives of china, representatives of the european union are actively communicating with each other, let's even list the meetings that have taken place, yes macron, orbán, scholz, maloney, yes, there must be a meeting somewhere , and, that is , in fact, contacts there are at... the highest level, so we see that after all , china and the european union are trying, trying to establish this cooperation, on the other hand, we observe that
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the european union, of course, including trying to convince china not to support russia is at war with ukraine, at least informally, but in this case, can a black cat run between the countries of the european union and? hello, i think this is about the pursuit of self -interest, both by china and by the european union, and you just mentioned the visits of the same scholz to china, the same, so, uh, uh, how him, orbana, and here we have, you know, that... there is such an expression "chinese europe". china is building its allies in europe, including hungary and serbia, where, recently, there was also
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xi jinping is visiting. and what is special here is that these two countries are very strongly in solidarity with the russian federation. and this union. there is also china, and these are the two countries that fall under the chinese europe project, which concerns the black intestine, ah, when scholz was in beijing, he spoke mostly about the economy, because billions and billions of investment money from the german side into the chinese the economy in... of course they need to be implemented at the level of projects and so on, and they need to be protected and they need to be promoted, they need to be
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implement, so no one here will argue very much, of course, that scholz, who wants the end of the war on fair terms for kyiv, ah, at least what he is talking about, he certainly tried to have some influence on the leadership of the people's republic of china, will cope with that , for china to influence moscow regarding the end of hostilities, but if china wanted to influence, it would influence, because all these talks about, let's hold hands, friends, sit down at the negotiating table, cease fire, they are from china.. the parties do not provide absolutely a none, it means the withdrawal of russian troops from the territory of ukraine and the cessation
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of shelling of our territory, where we lose people every day. mr. igor, what do you think about these rumors that appeared in the mass media during the current week, about a possible stroke in... sidjingpin, yes, and some mass media have already begun, relatively speaking, to consider various options, what will happen , if he dies or retires, so to speak, how true these rumors can be, how much this information in general could be real, and if so or not, why is it getting so much hype in the media and... why all over the world? well, the purpose of this information, and it is even better to call it disinformation at this stage, because there are no official confirmations,
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so we believe that this is disinformation, it is usually spread by those forces, those means, which set themselves the goal of shaking the power in china, of course, if we see after the... central committee of the 20th cpc congress, ah, when xi jinping comes out with his people, it means partners in the politburo, and we see this broadcast to the whole of china, then there are no doubts, he did not have a stroke and so on, because if there was something, then there are several unofficial markers, er... to chinese society, well, the main one, for example , stamps - this is the alarming of the troops of the central military district, china, or at least
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the garrison. nothing like that happened, and we have fresh in our memory, that is, the only death of the recent, let's note, the former prime minister, i mean that in recent times there have been no such things happened to any high officials of the people's republic of china, only just... it means liketsian's death, but he was already a former one, and there are many other markers that we don't see, and the main thing is that he, i mean, imbina, after finishing plenum calmly, so it was shown on the television screens, mr. igor, we sincerely thank you for your thoughts, for joining
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the broadcast of the political club of the tv channel. ihor lytvyn, ambassador of ukraine to the people's republic of china in 1999-2001, co-chairman of the ukrainian-chinese business council and, by the way, extraordinary and powerful ambassador of ukraine to the dprk on a part-time basis in 2000 , 2000 and 2001. we have one more guest, an expert, this is vladyslav kulmynskyi, the former vice-prime minister for political affairs. reintegration of moldova, director of the institute of strategic initiatives, already in touch, as far as i understand, yes, mr. vladislav, we are glad to welcome you, good evening, good evening, thank you for the invitation, mr. vladislav, let's talk about moldova, of course, our partner, also,
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country, friend. and we see that there is a new defense strategy of the country, we see that in fact, the russian federation, the occupier state, is defined there as an existential threat in our country. so, to what extent do you evaluate this new defense strategy of moldova as effective, and to what extent does it really correspond to reality, at least... i see that it does, but maybe you can tell more expertly about this position? well, it is so, and it is obvious, because if russia did this to ukraine, to the ukrainian people, whom they consider to be brothers, then what can they do to other peoples, which they do not are considered brothers, well, they are a people in general,
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what a word. the moldovan people are not considered worthy of attention, now it is obvious that there are no rules in the region, there are no red lines, russia has decided to redraw the political map of europe, to change the world order, russia is ready to fight to achieve its goal, and after what happened to ukraine, russia is the main danger and the main threat to moldova, and... more, for many other reasons, russia poses a threat to all countries of the post-soviet space, without exception, which would like choose your own path of development. that is , russia practically tells moldova, do you voluntarily enter our geopolitical space, sphere of influence, or war? of course, this is a threat. but that's what the management thinks, and
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that's the main thing. the question here is different, but what does the vast majority of the country's population think, they think the same, they also believe that the main threat to moldova is russia? and here the answer to this question is no, because public opinion polls show that the majority of the country's population adheres to the unrealistic point of view that it is possible with russia to agree that russia will give... peace, that we need to be with the west and with the east, that is, to be a gray zone, a buffer that can milk two cows, there are a number of people who believe that it is possible to remain in the russian sphere of influence, and this is after the war in ukraine, this is after all the sacrifices and suffering that russia brought, and now there is no clear answer to all these questions, and it seems to me that...
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