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good health once again, my name is mykola veresen, as i promised, andriy dobryanskyi, the spokesman for the ukrainian congressional committee of america from the united states, is now in touch with us, i hope, and we will definitely talk about the elections with him , the presidential election in the united states, good health, mr. andrew, thank you for finding time for us, thank you very much, thank you for launching, so watch. the question is so simple and not simple, i don’t know who ukrainians in the united states are campaigning for, who ukrainians in the united states are voting for, i.e. in a broad sense, there is more support for the democrats, more support for the republicans, what the diaspora thinks, i understand that these are different people, this is america, this is democracy, everyone has their own opinion there and there are no questions about this, but we can outline some trends , please. mr.
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andriy, i think, yes, it is necessary to emphasize that this is a diverse diaspora, just as there is a whole american society, so everyone has their own corner where they can be active or inactive in politics, and as for ours who want to participate, yes we have and republicans, some of whom have been upset before about the language and... and president trump's statements, like jay vance specifically, but some of what came out, whether it was the pompeo article or the earlier work from robert o'bryan, a lot of them found with something with which they can cooperate with the republican administration, so many ukrainians, i think, i don't know if they are more activated now with vice president garres than with president biden. but they see the possibility that
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something could be different in the democratic party, and probably this change is good for ukraine, probably that jack salaven will be replaced by the chief adviser kamela garres, that they would like to see what he will do, i think, now now for a better overview for ukrainians than a month ago, when the republicans were complaining about the position of trump and adek. and the democrats, they were not as optimistic as the candidate was still president biden, we really, we are in ukraine, there is such an impression from ukraine that it is as if the democrats really became more active, that ms. harris became a candidate, everything is already clear and they support her, or is it us seems like really, the democrats now got a second wind, like in sports, now the olympics have just started, one hundred percent, it is us... we see
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after 48 hours that 60,000 volunteers have signed up to the company across america, to participate and, well, knock on doors, get signatures and so on, how fund-raisers finally resumed for the democratic campaign, which had been completely frozen for most of july, and the main thing is that it was all resolved so quickly that there was an inter-democratic caucus on the ... almost every potential candidate that we here they spoke on on your tv channel and other, various governors that were proposed, they all supported the candidacy of vice president geris, so that she would get the seal of approval from the democratic party as soon as possible that she would be the official candidate. mr. andrew, who is kamala haris, we know something about her. well, for me, not
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for you, but definitely for the audience, i will say that the position of vice president is so specific, there are no powers there, there are tasks of the president, the president will say, vice president, go there, do that, he or she goes, but she she is absolutely not independent, that is to say, the first assistant to the president who performs the tasks of the president, and as an independent figure, we know little about her. we are interested in the ukrainian version, what does she think about ukraine, what would she like, how would she behave if we imagine that she won the election? yes, i think you have explained the role of the vice president accurately, generally the most unpleasant things or actions that the president has to do, he can delegate to the vice president, and it's interesting in different administrations. like barack obama, he doesn't
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was, he was not so interested in international affairs and transferred most of that to president biden when he was vice president, then it all depends and... how the president himself at that moment imagines the role of the vice president, and then for the vice president it must do what he says, but she not only became a politician when she was the vice president, she had quite a lot of time in the senate, at that time she was there for many years, she had meetings with representatives of the ukrainian community and in california , and when she is in the senate. was how they say, representatives of the ukrainian community, when there are activists, it has already heard for years, specifically since the beginning of the war in the 14th year, that there are our needs, that there are needs of ukraine, and also there is a rather large
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and and is an active community throughout california, and she was the attorney general of this state for many years as well, and about the position. and on international affairs or specifically on ukraine, we know first of all that her national security adviser has a different view than jake solloven, he was very supportive of the decision for her to go to switzerland for the peace summit, he was very supportive of showing that she could have a strong moral voice against our enemy, russia, and that would be one change, but at this point ... i think it would be very important for us americans and for the world that she had one speech for her overview of the whole world, specifically what kind of international connections a potential gerest administration would have, and because we know that where we
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heard something when she spoke after her meeting with netanyahu, but i think , she must have some concept with the speech, and probably some articles. and what would be expressed for of the american public, what are we voting for? they talked, they used the words vice president a lot, who will be kamala's vice president, we can imagine a certain person, because now they are starting to think that since she is an indian, a west indian, then she needs a white man, since she has a jewish husband, then he probably shouldn't be a jew anymore, there should be someone there maybe a pure american and someone there catholic, i don't know, then who, which, which, which, which portrait of that person, who would this person like, a man, obviously because she is a woman would become the vice president, what do you say
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, mr. andrii, yes, we have another week of such a sit-down, well, no, more, excuse me, because she promised to have a vice president by august 7. candidate for vice president, as well as if it were decided that she would officially have the virtual procedure from the democratic party, that she would become a candidate, because august 7 is the first deadline, when one state must start printing its ballots, then we don't have much time, but we have time now to remember and think who we think should be the candidate, there's a cut... the governors who are nominated, however, because they've won a whole state as governors, and most of them have won two terms, so the thought is that they would add to her state total , yes, as the governor of pennsylvania,
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now pennsylvania is half and half and half for trump, half for geris, so how would they add a governor... probably then it would increase the state one hundred percent went for kamel hares, now there is such math outside the governors the strongest voice for ukraine, this is a senator mark kelley from arizona, he is a former astronaut , he is a former military man and speaks very strongly about ukraine in support of ukraine , many political scientists are very supportive of him as a vice presidential candidate. because , like he said, he's not black, he 's manly, a man, it would be a balance with a woman, but in the last 24 hours for some reason when the review started, you know, all they ever said in my life, everything that is on
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social networks and beyond, now now they tell me that there is no solution, whether to markela or others governors, they are checking everything now, at least you... check the whole history of those different people, the lone one, which is strange, did not receive an invitation to hand over all the materials of his history, this governor. kenntaki, who was also mentioned at first as a potential candidate, but he still appears almost every day on the main tv channel in support of vice president kugeres. maybe the last question, or a group of questions, this is the impression, again from kyiv, you can confirm or deny, mr. andriy, the impression that mr. trump strongly got nervous when kamala harris appeared, and somehow he, well, he was. so confident, calm, balanced, that biden, i am his one left hand, that's all, and now
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he suddenly became the oldest candidate for the presidency in general in history, and now everything he said about biden is said about him, and and and these words of kamala really impressed me, very simple and impressive, i was about... rom, i'm the type of people like trump, i know, well, it's simple, she just said, you, he's a criminal, hello, and that so me, as if she didn't say anything, but she said everything, then as far as trump's position now, how he feels, it's very strange for political scientists to look at trump now, that he was prepared with rhetoric, that all this that he prepared was against biden. and why is it weird, why do we say it's weird, because he 's been saying forever that biden shouldn't be
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the nominee, because he was too old, that the democrats should reject him and continue, and now that it's finally happened, it looks like he was not prepared at all, rhetoric is not prepared, advertisements should have been prepared months ago, just in case if he doesn't become vice president, he has to be vice president, and for some reason he is... trump and vice presidential candidate jaydee vance, they have no prepared rhetoric that clearly explains why heres, she is so terrible for america , it's even strange to hear that she's liberal on the one hand, and then a few sentences later, they address black americans with the fact that they included the black rights movement, that she ... probably forcefully, sharply as the attorney general, then
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even this rhetoric is not there is, well, there is no point, now now, they need to decide on a clear position about the vice president, and this is the main thing, why they trump got a little angry, that he was not prepared for this news, thank you very much, andriy dobryanskyi, spokesman for the ukrainian congressional committee of america, thank you. you are huge, now we have a four -minute advertisement, and then we are in israel, all the way to china, then to israel, somehow everything is international today, but no matter what kind of international, you have to watch the advertisement and we are watching the advertisement, are you thinking about a new mattress, but here is what stops you, were you wondering why are you sleeping old mattresses accumulate not only dust, but also moisture that a person releases during sleep. a new mattress pad or bed linen
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good again. hello, ladies and gentlemen, my name is mykola veresen, we will now talk about china, about the visit of mr. kuleba, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine to the people's republic of china, on this occasion vita golud, chairman of the board of the ukrainian association of china studies, thank you for finding it's time for us, thank you very much, good afternoon, look, my first question is what wants china, as far as i understand, china will not be interested. neither in the complete victory of ukraine, i.e. the entry to the borders of 1991, nor in the complete victory of russia, i.e. the capture of four oblasts and crimea, well, if we take from the beginning of the 14th year, then what would he like, what is the strategy of china , if it is related to the ukrainian-russian, ukrainian-russian,
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russian-ukrainian war. please, sir. china's main long-term strategy is to establish. measures and stability, first of all, for the development of its economy. china needs to restore supply chains, china we need peace in europe in order to continue our global ambitions in europe and in the world in general. in the context of this peace settlement, its diplomatic victory is important to china, so that both sides of the conflict sit down at the negotiating table and come to an agreement, and preferably in... the essence of beijing, that is, let's say, china's short-term strategy in the context of this conflict. yes, well, but, well, am i right, when i, i, it seems to me that if putin says everything, we will take donetsk, and luhansk, and kherson, and zaporizhzhia regions, and about
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russians don't want to talk about crimea in general, then everyone will say: "no, no, listen, this is so." it won't happen, but if the ukrainians say we will take crimea and restore it, then pikin will also say: no, it won't happen like that either, that is, where, where can we find that balance, is this balance even possible in principle? beijing will definitely not pressurize, beijing, it is not in china's principles to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries, especially those suffering from military aggression, but it is obvious that... keen will help the parties come to an agreement, this is how the chinese works diplomacy, we see the same scenario in the middle east, where consultations are held with both sides and the opposition political parties of palestine are received in beijing to come to an agreement and have a political solution to the crisis. in ukraine, it is clear that currently, as they said,
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both sides, yes, the conditions are not ripe for a political solution to the conflict, therefore... the situation is more complicated, and therefore the work continues, and currently the fact that this meeting took place in the conditions of such a political crisis with of the 14th year between countries, this suggests that that a direct direct communication channel has been established, and we hope that the working meetings will continue, because this is the titanic work of our embassy in beijing and two consulates in shanghai and in guangzhou, but if it happens very often, now is the time for a meeting. because it very often happens in diplomacy, first the ministers, i.e. first kuleba and ivany, and then maybe zelenskyi and sidzinpin, as far as it is beneficial such a meeting in the near or medium. prospects, please, ms. vita, it seems to me that it is unlikely that this will happen an official visit to one side or another, because in general such visits are prepared during the year,
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that is, it must already be the signing of some documents, it is usually political or economic or some other decisions during such official visits at a high level, it is possible that the parties will meet at some international arenas. and maybe it was discussed during the visit, but the fact that there will be an official visit should be understood that in the 32-year history of our relations, ukrainian presidents have visited china only five times, and chinese leaders have visited only three times, that is, these meetings, they are extremely important, and they have such value, and they must be prepared very thoroughly, see if not... the visit of the prime minister, the indian premier of fashion, to kyiv, as if he is here until august , will speed up the possibility of a meeting -september, these two
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months should come, well, here we know the jealousy of these two big superpowers, asian china and india, they keep a close eye on each other, and if india does this, china does this, if china does this, india does this , as far as these things are generally related, or are they fully autonomous? circumstances, chinese-ukrainian and indian-ukrainian, this is a very good remark, and indeed we see such activity in the geopolitical arena, modi visited moscow and now wants to fly to kyiv. of course, beijing is watching this very closely. we know about this competition in the asia-pacific region, that they have unresolved border issues and so on, and generally the global competition for leadership between india and china. i think these are not related. things, but they will affect, let's say the course of events at one point or another, but the fact that china will be closely following mrs. modi's visit to kyiv in august is
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certain. how strong is the position of official beijing in relations with russia? i would put a tougher question to you: is it possible to imagine that everyone... calls putin and says: come on, stop it, friend, putin, this is all you have done there in the east of ukraine, and putin will say: yes, for sure, comrade general the secretary of the central committee of the chinese communist party, how is this, well, it is such, such, such an option is possible, as far as china's influence on is russia so comprehensive? i would question it, both countries have their own foreign policy activities, and we can already see numerous ones. visits of russian delegations to north korea, which beijing does not like very much , and to vietnam, that is, everyone is playing their own complicated game for the future, for some, say,
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global leadership, because i know for sure that china considers russia a great power, still a great power, and calls on the world to reckon with russia, because the collapse of russia. in china's opinion will lead to a global catastrophe, we have another opinion, and we are really now caught between this such a global confrontation, and it is clear that we are on the other side, but, nevertheless, we have our national interests, and at the moment we are involved in two wars, one for survival against russia , and the second, in this global confrontation, and china, unfortunately, sees us as an american power, and what i could not understand for many years and still cannot, is how to get out of such a situation that on the one
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hand , the vast majority of the world supports the position of china alone, and taiwan is part of it of china, and ukraine constantly emphasizes that yes, we support it, we have no doubt that taiwan is that... for china, but on the other hand, beijing does not have such a clear, tough position on the issue of ukrainian territories that are seized the russian federation, i have not heard anywhere, yes, they say abstractly, we are for the un charter, yes we are for the borders cannot be destroyed, yes we are for the entire international legal system, but to say, this is a ukrainian thing... crimea, donbass - is the territory of ukraine, as ukraine says, taiwan is the territory of the chinese people's republic republics, everything, as, as, as they have a diploma.
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in fact, they can get away with, on the one hand, saying that yes, taiwan is ours, but donbas is not very ukrainian, but something like that, it is not known what it is in the chinese sense, they do not say that it is russian territory, they are in in any document, in any official speech, i did not even hear anyone slander that crimea is russian, that is , chinese diplomats, they nevertheless adhere to this stable position and... and there was a very apt remark by mr. kuliba after already meeting with the ministry of foreign affairs, that the sino-brazilian document lacked a clause regarding the territorial integrity of ukraine, but this issue was raised and it was, let's say, clearly formulated by the chinese side that china supports territorial integrity and sovereignty, and international law, and in no
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case does not want there to be any misunderstanding, and all issues should be resolved there in the united nations organization, but i want to say one more important thing so that the audience will understand: it is important for ukraine that ukraine be discussed with ukraine, therefore, this visit has, above all, such a working significance that this communication channel has been established, and i hope that more than one working meeting will take place for the second to the second peace summit, and this is really such a victory for our diplomacy. services, we have a problem with you, for me the problem is that you don't always chew on diplomats, because they all say one thing, think another, say a third, there is something there, and, plus, they are also oriental people, chinese, this is also very necessary it's so hard to look and not everyone will consider it, but as you feel, because it's here you have to count on feeling, china?
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satisfied with the visit, vany, the minister, satisfied with the visit of ukraine, he heard what he wanted to hear from, because the chinese like to hear what they like, from mr. kuleba. it seems to me that the situation is complicated, it seems to me that the chinese did not hear what they wanted to hear, because we saw a big difference in press releases, ukrainian, ukrainian and chinese. but it was very important for me to hear from the chinese side that they understand that so far the conditions are not ripe for a political solution to the crisis, that is, that we call on russia to sit down at the negotiating table just to sit down, such a scenario is not satisfactory, such a scenario is not effective, that is, the chinese side has already understood, so other consultations will be held, and it seems to me that mr. kuliba very clearly formed
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our... position , our european aspirations and the fact that we should be considered no longer in the zone of influence of russia, but rather in the zone of the european space, and this can also be considered the result of this meeting. no, well, i understand how it is possible, how kuleba can like it in this a bright suit. the chinese love black suits, they are all so black, suits, white shirts, here comes kuleba in some kind of european style. it's dark, but still not a black, but a gray suit, i think the chinese should be dissatisfied. the last question, we literally have half a minute, ms. victoria, ms. vita, i'm sorry, this is the first step, and do you think there will be more, that is, is there a possibility to continue these negotiations? this is first of all, not the first step, eh, recently mr. sebiga was in china, he
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also visited several... cities, provinces, he met at the level of deputy ministers of foreign affairs, that is, this is the second visit at the level of diplomats, before that mr. kachka was in china in the 22nd year, i am talking about the period of the full-scale invasion, and maybe there will be more meetings, we do not know about them, but i am sure that they are preparing, thank you very much, vita holod, the head of the board of the ukrainian association of china studies was in touch with us, now we will have... news, then we will have advertising, and then there will be israel, well, that's it well, i say, we are flying around the world today and we will watch now that in the middle east, but first there will be news and advertising.
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