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from the direct conflict between the russian federation and the united states of america. can donald trump cross those red lines? to some extent, yes, and then world war iii will begin. can kamela harris cross those three red lines? more likely no than yes. so, in principle, i think that the question of what the situation will look like will be decided generally according to the following convention. four. considering the whole meaning of this war and this whole style of war, there is very little that we should count on a solution in the future november 2024, november 2028 is a more likely date for you and i to sit down here and talk about how the war might end, but now i'm considering, it's a multi-year war, it's only the first years, we keep saying, it's a syrian-type war .
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the syrian one was a low -intensity conflict, how long was it, eight, eight years, now a high-intensity conflict for 2.5 years, how long can a high-intensity conflict take place, well, up to 6-7 years calmly, taking into account the capabilities of russia, taking into account the capabilities of the west to help us, then a low -intensity conflict will begin, it has already passed, we have already passed the station where it could somehow be stopped, we just have to be realistic about it. to the extent that ukraine and russia have enough economic, social, demographic and political potential, no combination will be able to influence this, but the united states now has no tools to influence putin, because again, we talked about it for a long time, because putin lives from china, india, and not from the united states and the european union, putin has no chance to bring ukraine to its knees, because we are being helped, and as long as they are helping us, there is no chance that we will agree to his terms, so. what can
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the president of the united states do? well, well, trump will try, if he becomes president, to try some kind of negotiation process. to organize either from the point of view of those advisers who say that it is necessary to put pressure on ukraine, or from the point of view of pompeo there, who says that it is necessary to put pressure on russia, but also to put pressure there, and there are not many opportunities there, well, trump gathered, putin and zelensky in kem, like begin and sadat, well, i apologize. begen had to give up the egyptian territory for the sake of peace, and we have to give up our own territory for the sake of peace, as far as i understand it, that is, imagine the peace summit between israel and egypt, when anwar sadat says to monachem, mr. prime minister - minister, you occupy the sinai peninsula here, and maybe you can also occupy aswan and luxor, and we will immediately be between us. great idea, mr. president,
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come on, withdraw your troops, well, that's what it looks like, right, but the meaning of peace between egypt and israel was in what minachen begen said, vanwar sadat, we control your vast territory, but we are not interested in controlling your territory, in peace with egypt, and if you agree to recognize our right to exist, if you guarantee us peace at guarantees of security for us and for you from the united states, we will withdraw the troops. from your territory, this is the nobel peace prize. putin comes to the white house, sees zelensky and says: oh, you know, we are worried about the security guarantee. we don't feel feel safe as you know, we are withdrawing russian troops from donetsk, luhansk, kherson, zaporizhzhia regions and crimea. we agree to have american peacekeepers or western peacekeepers on your territory, from our side. we demand
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such and such security guarantees from the united states there, agreements on nuclear disarmament and so on, and there will be eternal peace between russia and ukraine, but putin is not proposing this, he is proposing completely opposite things, we occupied part of your territory, you give us the opportunity you occupy another part, leave from here, from these four regions, wherever you are, disarm, declare neutrality, no security guarantees for you, and there will be peace, of course, i know, this is... like in soviet comedies, i will kill you quietly, russian peace, русский peace, yes, here, well, which donald trump will agree to such conditions, such a donald trump, not yet peoples, not yet born, because what is our role in this, your role grandpa to play golf in maralaga, why did you come here , let 's worry about it, go to your country house, well, this is what it looks like, so of course, there is no peace there will be no... possibility of ending
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the russian-ukrainian war does not exist, there is no political solution, that is, it exists, i have spoken about it repeatedly so that no one says that i did not speak about it, i make it clear: the war between russia and ukraine can be considered... if the countries that are members of the north atlantic alliance invite ukraine to nato and provide security guarantees, either for those territories that are currently under the control of the legitimate ukrainian authorities, or in the extreme case for those territories to which the russian federation does not claim it, it does claims donetsk, luhansk, kherson, zaporizhzhia regions and crimea, the security guarantee does not extend to these territories, it extends to all other territories, here are two options, either to a controlled territory, or to... which does not cause them to fear a direct conflict with russia, if they choose one of these two options, the war will end in 48 hours, or it will be localized only in these territories, where there will be no guarantee of security, there will be no shelling, there will be no destruction of infrastructure, nothing will happen, but
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most likely, there will be nothing there, because putin will not understand why he needs all this, it is a bridgehead, and if the bridgehead has nowhere to move, well, then there is no point, yes... i think that the territorial integrity of ukraine will be restored somewhere in a couple of years, if this decision is not adopted, but the war will continue as long as i said, as long as we have enough strength, as long as the russians have enough strength, which means another 5-6 years of high-intensity war, then 8 - 10 years of low intensity years, well, well, alas, well, there are no miracles, you understand, there are no miracles in politics, a miracle could happen if the war would end in 3-4 months, and the russians would be... so scared that they would be ready to the end of the war, for the conclusion of peace, without conditions, not like in istanbul, disarm, where you become nazified, shoot yourself, give us the conditions to occupy you, but we really want a real ceasefire . however, the miracle did not happen, we did not scare them much then, and putin simply
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reformatted this war from blitzkrieg to a multi-year war of extermination, we live in it and will live in it, we have to survive in this war, i have already said that now it is important that the state itself does not collapse, such a danger exists, it will increase with each new month and year of the war , and if ukrainian society behaves honestly, we will say in 2027, 2028 that this danger, it was not as serious as it seemed, but this does not mean that we will not talk to you in 2027 2028 in the break between big air alarms, it will be like this, it will be like this, there will be no other way, because there are no platforms, and that’s all, well, yes... you have to adjust to it and just build your life in an endless war, well, we can’t invent it to, say, like it to our audience, what do you know, everything will go wrong, for two or three weeks, and i went to america, so to speak,
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to grow flowers, like a former adviser to the office of the president of ukraine, i have no ability to lie, but then i would already be, probably in a very high position. well, we have a lot experts, people, abilities, which , unfortunately, we were told, and at the same time, i would still like to say that i allow maybe, if there is a ceasefire at any time, the russians can simply consider that they cannot stand it, they will that they temporarily need to leave and simply maintain the ceasefire without conditions. uh, uh, it could also be a transition to, relatively speaking, a hybrid war, which we had there from the 15th to the 22nd year, it can happen, you just have to always remember when it happens that does not mean that the war is over, it can break out at any second, at any moment, then i will tell you even more,
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the russians may need a ceasefire, because they themselves will be interested in rebooting the ukrainian government, they will consider , what if they cease fire, ugh. then the ukrainian government will not be able not to hold elections and they will have a chance, relatively speaking, to fight for such a ukrainian government that is already capitulating against the background of public disappointment, if they see great public disappointment, they themselves will strive for a ceasefire for the sake of starting a political process, and the government will be reformed, and then when the new ukrainian president tells them no, i won't do it, then they will resume hostilities , then they will resume hostilities. well, absolutely correct, yes, well, that’s the formula, many different options, well, we live with you in such an interesting time, unfortunately, well, maybe not unfortunately for journalists, but unfortunately for us, those who watch us , i would not respect anyone to live in such times, if he is not
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a journalist, let's say so, another topic netanyahu in the united states of america, finally yes. we see that the prime minister of israel spoke in the congress of the united states of america, there he stated that iran is the main threat to the... world and we need to join forces to stop it, yes, too , in general, basically, we saw that kamala harris missed this performance, well, of course, she has an election campaign going on, and basically, she shouldn't be there, if we talk about it, yes, but she met, but she then met, yes, the next thing i wanted to say, and she stated that... will not remain silent about the gas situation, but it is clear that the united
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states of america will also support israel, these statements were also made, and of course, the prime minister of israel met with donald trump, they we had a conversation, so to speak, held a meeting, and what we agreed on, we will also talk about now. is this visit actually taking place against the background of the election campaign? republicans are trying to use it to remind that they are true friends of israel. in fact, why did benjamin come now? netanyahu, why didn't he, why didn't he come two months, three months, representative mike johnson? that is, before that we saw a situation that, after all, we didn't really want to see. republicans also wanted him. for donald
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trump it's important, for benjamin netanyahu it's also important because he wasn't invited to the white house, he has a difficult relationship actually with joseph biden, and of course he's always been interested in such trips, but there's another thing to understand thing, benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister of the warring country, to go for a few days. with warring country is also not so easy in the midst of events, this is a question for the prime minister, where did you go, he is the prime minister of israel, i don't know how to explain it to you, he doesn't fly on saturdays, well, that is, he wanted come back on thursday, uh, he went on tuesday, uh, so then, so he had a meeting with biden, a meeting with kameloyas. he had to meet trump, but if you meet trump on thursday, you
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can't fly on friday, so he met trump on friday, i think in the morning, and then shabbat begins and you can only fly out on saturday evening, so how many days are you leaving israel? five, well , in general, if you also need a road here, then why, well, of course, you have to fly for a day, well, not a day there, i say 15 hours, here. so there is still such a problem, you see, that is , the prime minister of israel is interested in arriving on monday and leaving on thursday, it is difficult to arrange all this when you have such a number of interlocutors, and if you sit there, then they start telling you: here went to the united states, this is what happens here, that is, it means that there needs to be a moment of at least some respite on the front line so that he doesn't listen to it, i have important business in the united states, it's important. this is also part of our war, and this is also time, then it is very important from
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the domestic political point of view, the rating has increased in israel, in front of all other competitors for the position of the country's prime minister, although there was a moment, although it was falling before that, but again , i don't know, have you seen netanyahu's congressional speech, well netanyahu is a brilliant speaker, i can't call myself a political supporter of his, ugh. and if you watch this speech simply, let's say as a political observer, or as a jew, if you want, i watched it as a jew, with a great sense of pride, as i watched zelenskyi's speech, which i watched, of course, as a ukrainian citizen, that is, it's just a brilliant, brilliant understanding of the audience, both american and israeli. and the people who before that wrote to the congressmen that benjamin
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netanyahu is the worst leader of israel in history, they stood up and gave him a standing ovation because he addressed the soldiers in the gallery because he was talking about hostages because he was saying, "we're protecting you," and it's all clearly intelligible content in brilliant american-accented english. an accurate understanding of how to pronounce it all with an american accent is something that many world politicians who come to america, but have never lived in america, lack, yes. how benjamin netanyahu lived, he simply has the experience of american life, relatively speaking, he is almost an american, and it is also felt when he talks to them, can be felt when he speaks to them, well , i would say a willingness to accept a challenge, yes, when he calls the protesters useful idiots who do not even
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think that they can speak to her in such a language, that is, it is all of course a very strong speech, but... we understand that this is a problem for the democrats because they are trying to keep the audience, let's say, anti-israel, well, it's not a coincidence that nasipelos was not at this speech, she just didn't come, the former speaker of the house of representatives, it's not a coincidence and kamala khairis was not presiding over this speech, this is also an absolutely obvious thing. well, this, by the way, is a problem for the democrats, because, i wouldn't say that 100% of their voters are against israel, we have to understand that they are combined there, of course, but they have to somehow arrange it, well, they, well, they compose, kamela harris did not preside over the senate, but she met with netanyahu, joseph
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biden condemns certain actions of the israeli government there, but supports israel. they make it up, they don't have such a clear position that trump takes. and by the way, to trump, if we go back, netanyahu met with trump, it is clear that trump also needed this meeting, what they talked about and what could be the pros and cons for both of them, they reconciled for the first time, i don't know how much it was trump is needed. it seems to me that netanyahu needed it more, well, it's logical, but trump took a lot of offense to netanyahu, and it's also a very strange offense, he took offense to netanyahu because netanyahu congratulated biden on being elected president of the united states, uh, although i i remember that on the same day netanyahu wrote a big tweet in which he thanked donald trump and there was a lot to be thankful for, listen to donald trump, dear press of israel,
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i have no doubts here, but how do you imagine the prime minister of israel, who does not welcome the president-elect of the united states? how come there are such politicians, viktor orban did not congratulate, i think andrzej duda somehow simply congratulated joseph biden on taking office, but not on winning the elections, but they are not at war with anyone, they can afford such a luxury, and this a warring country one way or another, well, but he was still offended like a child, ugh, and he had nothing to do with him for four years, criticized him publicly all the time, even met with sarah netanyahu here and there... you saw the prime minister's wife - the minister of israel, well, that is , they somehow reconciled, but here another question arises, what can trump really do for netanyahu, but trump did a lot for israel at a time when israel followed a policy that seemed logical to many at the time, for reconciliation with the arab countries
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for israel's security, and that was the course netanyahu, he believed that this was a justified course and... by and large, joseph biden also followed this course when he tried to agree on diplomatic relations between saudi arabia and israel. but here the question arises, what can trump do when it comes to a political solution that does not exist? well, there isn't. well, donald trump showed that mahmoud abbas, the head of the palestinian authority, also wrote him a letter, which means that he called for peace, but mahmoud abbas does not know about... hamas, islamic jihad, radical organizations, and i don't think to be honest, what is happening now in the gas sector is somehow helping to change its mood, rather the opposite, by the way, this is exactly what hamas was trying to achieve when it did all this, the extreme
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radicalization of moods, well, does donald trump know how solve... this problem, he knows one thing that it needs to be solved as soon as possible, because it contributes to the image of israel in the world, and how what is happening to this perception in recent months is an unprecedented tragedy for israel, because yes never was, in the civilized world, i i understand them, that is , there was no such serious opposition, there never was, there was never such a readiness to forget about october 7 of last year, in connection with the events in the gas sector. and netanyahu heard it from trump, who said that you need to work with your services, public relations, but this is not a service hit. with the public, the issue is that every israeli operation allows hamas to release tragic footage of the deaths of the local population, which hamas
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uses as human shields for its fighters, and no one says: listen, hamas is using civilians as human shields, everyone is talking, israel is killing civilians, israel has more power, it has to yield, and if israel has to yield, then what? with hamas, if the israeli government has declared its goal to destroy hamas, then how can the war even end, well, the war has been going on for almost 300 days, but today i saw that for the first time in a month there was shelling of ashkelon from gaza, i am not saying that there is any danger hazbol, that there is a danger of yemenites, or it may continue, but we take one gas, if we said, you know, the war has been going on for 300 days. and hamas no longer even has the ability to fire missiles at israel, and if even after these 300 days it has such an opportunity, then what
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needs to be done to really eradicate this danger, as in some arab parable, you know, in order to kill a snake, you need to burn the forest , well, this is an ambitious desire, and by the way, i have to say that we are in a similar situation, that is, if we believe that... the end of the war and the victory of the war, this is the restoration of our territorial integrity, then how much do we have is there a war 600, the 89th day, or more, i already got confused in the numbers, of course, there are ours, yes , 689, well, you see, i even remember it, by memory, in israel, so i think that 290 the fifth, 295, uh, well, we just have to calculate arithmetically how many more days we will need to really restore this territorial integrity, maybe 100, maybe 5200, it all doesn't
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matter, maybe especially taking into account the fact that the russians capture small areas every day, but these are new, new territories, well, we need to liberate them, so how many of us was released in 689 days, well, a large territory, but it remained, but it was in the 22nd year, it was in the 22nd year of course. well, there is always a turning point in the war in favor of the other, and it can happen in a few days, not in a few years, but it is necessary to live until this turning point, so it means that we are in the same situation, that the israelis, that the ukrainians, 600, 295th day there is no understanding of a political solution in nature, 689th year no political solution is not in nature, well, on this and trump, who speaks, i am here for you i will decide one day. i'm here for you in one grandpa , it's already 295 and 689 days, when you become president, i don't even want to count
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how many days there will be, well, a lot, there will be as many in israel as we have now, and i don't even want to count them all these tragic days, the very fact that now the media are living in the days of war, this already says a lot, a lot. well, so with all due respect to trump's ability and to his sympathy for israel, he understands exactly what needs to be done, to end the war, to fix the image israel, to destroy hamas, to establish some kind of regime that would allow the restoration of the gas sector, but he doesn't know how, uh, it's like the ukrainian war, he doesn't know how, he wants to, but he doesn't know how, well... it happens, even not only at this age with people, at any age, you understand when you want to and don't know how, well, i'll tell you for sure that children
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are not born from this, well, that's such a problem, unfortunately 885 day, oh, 885, 885, so immersed and and... in this daily process that these days, so to speak, you already see, go to thousands, up to a thousand, in fact, when the next us president takes office, there will be more, there will be a plus, but think about it, when the war in the middle east began, no one even thought that it could last 295 days, well and we also have, some weeks, another topic, probably a sad topic, today, when i read it, when you, mr. vitaliyu, too, we talked before the start of the broadcast or during the break. the diet of the republic. poland
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has 420 mps for condemning the activities of the ukrainian rebel army, the army and the organization of ukrainian nationalists, here i i will quote now. volodymyr vyatrovych, by the way, wrote about this today, and he gave a quote from yesterday's resolution of the polish diet. the sejm of the republic of poland condemns the spread of ideology and symbolism, which... refers to the organization of ukrainian nationalists and the ukrainian insurgent army, the people and organizations that organized the genocide, i emphasize, must be covered with shame and forever constitute an anti-model of actions, observing the growing popularity of references to the organization of ukrainian nationalists and the ukrainian rebel army in ukraine, seim the republic of poland recognizes that it is necessary to make efforts at the state level to
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eliminate. this type of attitude, well, this is not just a statement, it is a resolution of the sejm of the republic of poland, that is, the parliament, but it was conveyed by another statement, now it is no longer a resolution, but i say again, a statement of the ministry of foreign affairs, it seems to me, of poland that ukraine will not join the european union until it decides. is the issue, the volyn issue, and, that is, here is such a statement, the second resolution, and all this happens within three or four days, well, as in me, this is an absolutely unfriendly step that we received from a country that ukrainians consider friendly, yes, and from a country that perfectly
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understands that... we are now in a state of war, and unfortunately, such notes are echoed, even in part with the position of the hungarians, so the hungarians are somewhat similar, they have some ideological issues with us, but they rather concern the national minorities, the hungarian national minority, here we see that poland, it would seem, well, most of the issues have already been resolved by historians and in that... including joint ones at various conferences, there were many joint meetings of ukraine and poland, official representatives, including, and this concerned the issue of volyn, the volyn issue, well, as for the ukrainian insurgent army and the organization of ukrainian nationalists, there is generally a deadlock here, because these are the people who elected the right of our country, of our people, to
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have our own country in... including the right to be called ukrainians, to be called citizens of ukraine, to be had their own language, their own culture, their own traditions, and in general were not completely destroyed by the russian empire, or at that time by the soviet union. mr. vitaly, what is this from poland, why are they doing it? moreover, whether it can become a certain cornerstone for us... to block ukraine's entry into the european union, but less so, after all, i am interested in another question: why is poland, and absolute, not even absolute, and with almost one hundred percent of the votes in the polish parliament, i will adopt absolutely the following anti-ukrainian attacks, which often do not even have any real historical
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basis. well, they have, but it is clear that this base is different for each of the parties, and it is clear that the polish position on this issue is historical, it is very often not objective, why right now, and that this is happening at all, i think that this is part of poland's internal policy, and we must clearly understand that the attitude to the history of our neighbors and our attitude, it is different, one way or another, and the country that is a member of the european union will always dictate certain conditions. attitude to its own historical policy of the country that wants to join the european union, and because otherwise this country will simply remain outside the european union, by the way, i keep saying this, if you remember, even when this negotiated process began, i said , what we're going to have to do, we're going to have tough conversations with our neighbors, don't be under any illusions, it doesn't look very serious right now, just because we, we're at war, uh, a country at war, no one of any european no union will accept
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