let's summarize the informational morning in ukraine in eteriso news. khrystyna works in the studio. the russians killed two residents of the kherson region, another 11 were wounded, the dead men, 27 and 45 years old, from the village of borgunka. they were hit by an fpd drone, and among the victims were three children, a ten-year-old girl and two teenage boys, who were reported to the national police. the day before, the occupiers , which were massively shelled in the boryslav and kherson districts, were hit with rocket salvo systems, artillery, and aviation. and

drones. three people were injured in donetsk region. the occupiers fired aerial bombs and artillery at lyman, myrnograd, toretsk and six other settlements in the region. the regional police reported. as a result of the shelling, 35 residential buildings, shops, farm buildings, garages, cars, a gas pipeline and a high-voltage line were damaged. russia for the first time led to the black sea. three submarines equipped with cruise missiles at once, dmytro pletenchuk, the spokesman for the naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine, reported. these are all vessels that russia keeps in the azov-black sea region - he added. military cars were set on fire. couriers of the food delivery service worked as enemy agents in odessa. six young men, aged 18 to 24,

tried to destroy at least 15 official suvs in two weeks on... instructions from the russian special services were received through social networks. the law enforcement officers caught the criminals in hot pursuit, seized from them homemade incendiary mixtures and mobile phones with evidence of crimes. enemy agents face up to eight years in prison. working under the guise of courier delivery, the defendants on own scooters. city, where the addresses of defense forces' cars were set, then they sent photos of potential targets to their russian curator for approval. after a command from the fsb, youths arrived at the parking lots of military vehicles at night, doused them with a flammable mixture and set them on fire. then the participants filmed the fire for reporting to the aggressor. parents took it upon themselves to escape abroad. the existence

of other people's children. another illegal scheme for those who want to avoid mobilization was stolen in kyiv. former secretary of the city district of the court of odesa region, together with her husband , unmarried women with minor children were searched. they were offered to sell parenthood to unknown men. after the court legalized the status, clients who had children of their own became many, so they left the country without hindrance. service. cost the petitioners $3,500. the law enforcement officer detained the organizer with an accomplice in accordance with article 208 of the criminal procedure code of ukraine. under the procedural guidance of the pechersk district prosecutor's office, the investigators reported detainees and a 26-year-old woman who confirmed the paternity of the client in court on suspicions under the third part of article 332 of the criminal code of ukraine, namely illegal transportation of persons across the state border. of ukraine. in accordance with the sanction

of the article, the accused faces imprisonment for a term of up to 9 years with confiscation of property. killed for bitcoins. a 29-year-old foreigner was kidnapped and strangled at night in kyiv. due to the fact that the neighbors promptly called the police when they heard a fight on the street, the perpetrators were apprehended in hot pursuit. as reported by the capital police, four men aged from 20.4 to 29 years old were detained. they prepared for the crime in advance, having learned that the victim had cryptocurrency worth uah 7 million. they tracked down the foreigner, forced him into a car and kidnapped him. the man was taken to an abandoned building in the territory of kyiv region, the suspects forced him to transfer bitcoins to their crypto wallet, then transferred the cryptocurrency to cash, and the man was killed to hide the traces of the crime, changed... license plates and appearance

car, and the body was taken to the forest and buried. we arrived, met with this person at his home. we put him in a bus and took him to the designated place. when the police officers started patrolling the village, i realized that we had all actually been discovered. we drove the car and dumped the victim's body. as a result of the special operation, the law enforcement officers with the force support of the special units detained all the persons involved and seized money, a car and other physical evidence confirming their involvement in the commission of the crime. in later, the persons involved were informed of the suspicion of abduction of a person and for self-interested motives committed by a group of persons in a prior conspiracy. the perpetrator faces life imprisonment with confiscation of property. in cherkasy region , the head of a correctional facility threatened a service station employee with a weapon and even fired a warning shot. as reported by the sbi,

the official who was on the tip did not like how the foreman communicated with him. so he took out a gun, pointed it at his opponent, and then fired at the wall. after that, the man got into the car and drove away. they are currently deciding the question of choosing a preventive measure for him. a large-scale scheme of illegal production of liquid for electronic cigarettes was stolen in the kyiv region. the prosecutor's office seized uah 365 million worth of products, as well as equipment and more than uah 6 million in cash. a group of people set up an industrial-scale production line in underground workshops. manufactured gas stations for vapes were sold. in wholesale batches via the internet. the conspirators spent the money they received on cryptocurrency, expensive cars and branded items. an explosive find on the bank of the dnieper in zaporizhzhia fulfilled the ammunition of the times of the second world war. a local

resident noticed him and called the emergency services. sappers identified a 37mm mortar mine. it was taken to a special field and destroyed. also. technicians neutralized the element of ammunition from the rocket system of the hurricane salvo fire. he was discovered in one of the villages of the pologiv district. and the espresso tv channel and the vesna charitable fund opened a fundraiser for the purchase of modern drones and electronic warfare systems for the third separate assault brigade of the 110th and 47th brigades of the armed forces of ukraine. defenders in donetsk the direction is held back by enemy attacks and defended every day. our freedom and future. it was these soldiers who stood to the last and defended the avdiiv direction in the spring. the brigades urgently need drones and modern means of countering enemy drones. our goal is uah 3.5 million. remember, each of

your donations brings our victory closer. you can see all the details on the screen. russia is going under water again. heavy rains flooded a village in the republic of bashkiria. in karelia, the great water destroys private houses. in the video released by the local authorities, roofs can be seen houses the iremel nature park on the border with the chelyabinsk region was also under water, it was closed to visitors. the israeli government has received permission to respond to hezbollah's attack on the dutch heights, where children died. this decision was made by the country's security cabinet. now the government officials have to determine the method and the deadline. for answers the day before, the israeli army had already beaten polivano, under attack were warehouses with weapons and hezbollah infrastructure facilities. at the same time, us and middle eastern diplomats are trying to prevent it expansion of the war. let me remind you that on july 27, hezbollah struck the dutch heights in the north

of israel. rockets hit the football field, twelve children were killed, dozens were injured. forest fire. in turkey, a fire broke out in the forests of five provinces, in particular in the resorts of antalya and izmir - local media reports: eight planes, six helicopters, more than three dozen units of special equipment are extinguishing the flames. the fire has already destroyed 80 hectares of forest. ukrainian olena kravatska made it to the 1.16 finals in saber fencing at the olympic games games in france. our athlete is confident. defeated the opponent from algeria with a score of 15:8. in the next round, she will face two-time world champion emura misaki of japan. meanwhile, the 1/8th place in this discipline has already been guaranteed by olga kharlan, a facturer. in addition,

judoka darya bilodit won her first victory in paris. the match lasted only 5 seconds and secured her a ticket to the 1/8 finals. in general, already today , ukrainian athletes competed. in 11 olympic disciplines. such was the morning in ukraine. read more news on our website espresso.tv, also on our social networks, join, bet yourself. bye bye, i 'll say goodbye to you, see you tomorrow, my colleagues will tell you more, stay with us, congratulations, friends, the politclub program is on the air on the espresso tv channel, the main events are you. the main trends, the main opinions of our experts. we start today's conversation with

serhii rakhmanin, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on national security, defense and intelligence. he is in our studio, congratulations, mr. serhiy. congratulations. let's get started on the topic of transition, because now many people are discussing, almost at every platform, saying: "well, we need to create conditions for negotiations with the russian federation." to create certain conditions, someone says that the conditions must be created by force, like boris johnson, someone says that you need to talk to putin and find out about his interests, like viktor orban, but we also see this narrative in ukrainian society when people say, oh, i don't have the strength anymore, i need to talk, and i wonder how realistic she is in general setting up negotiations in a situation where russia does not look like a country that seriously wants any real negotiations, not the conditions for capitulation, which it has been putting forward since february. 2022 year of real negotiations? well, the thing

is that they talk about negotiations as much as the war lasts, just now, why weren’t these talks now, let’s say, of a higher degree and wider circles, wider, let’s say, they are discussed on different platforms, because the same fatigue from the war, which was talked about for a very long time, actually accumulated, it has accumulated in everyone, in the military, in civilians, in ukraine in... russia in the west, and always, when the degree of this fatigue has increased significantly enough, even sociological surveys show that the number of people who already in one way or another or are otherwise ready for these changes, the percentage of these people has increased, it is clear that the conversations on this topic, they sound more and more clear, but are they possible, is there a foundation for them, i still do not see this foundation, because on... . we have two ultimatums, let's call them things by their names, one ultimatum

is called zelensky's peace formula, with all due respect to what is stated there, it is not a peace formula, it is an ultimatum. another peace formula, or putin's peace proposals, is the same ultimatum, but with a different sign. it is clear that finding points of contact will be extremely difficult. accordingly, i do not yet see the basis of the foundation in order to create any. conditions, prerequisites for agreeing on something. well, the question is that ukraine can change its conditions on which negotiations can begin, because it can to be chained to the wall, so to speak , by the reality, let's say, less of a decrease in western aid, or the social fatigue of the war that you talked about, but russia, why should it abandon the idea that it should control the occupied territories, that it must seek the neutral status of ukraine, and it will not refuse. that's the problem. in fact, today there may be a basis for an agreement on

the termination of the war, on some freezing of the conflict for some indefinite or definite period, but for peace, i do not think that such a basis exists, and will appear in the near future. it's just that now the situation is complicated by the fact that europe is crucified, the states are divided, and the last elections in europe and the upcoming elections in the united states, they force all those... the influence on the course of events depends on this in one way or another in one way or another, because this war depends not only on the military who are fighting, although it is clear that , first of all, on them, they are trying to find some points of contact, some basis for agreeing at least on a ceasefire, on one or another terms, it is clear that ukraine will not make territorial concessions under any circumstances, it is clear that putin will not make any territorial concessions under any circumstances, even by someone...somehow this was perceived as his defeat, the only problem is that, i

think that putin is actually willing to fight long enough, i don't know what's on his mind, i think very few people really know what's on his mind, maybe only he knows, maybe he doesn't, but the thing is to maintain the military conflict at the level at which it is happening now, russia capable, and i think this is a completely objective assessment for another couple or three years from at least one. on the other hand, an economy that does experience some uplift due to the transition to military reiki, it overheats, and this can lead to negative consequences. in the future, moreover, the russian army is also getting tired, despite the fact that it has much more financial resources, technical resources, they are also getting tired, they are also bleeding, they are suffering huge losses, and on the one hand they say to him the military, that there is a year and a half at most and we can achieve a complete military victory, and on the other hand, they say to him, and in two

years you may have problems with the economy, and you may have problems with the mobilization resource and the effectiveness of your armed forces, even ... numbers can be a problem in a year and a half, and between these, and these are mutually exclusive things, right? absolutely, yes, and therefore, on the one hand, he is trying to improve his conditions for theoretical negotiations now, trying to put pressure on various directions of the theater of war actions, and on the other hand, well, if it appears to him, and he will believe in it, that he will be able to get a complete victory or a great victory for the army. way, without resorting to any progress, then he will put pressure on it. and what is a complete victory, a complete capture of ukraine? a complete victory, in my understanding, is for russia, it is controlled ukraine, it is not necessarily a physical seizure of the entire territory, it is an influence on the government, it is an influence on the authorities, it is an influence on the political processes here,

it is a fixed neutral status, it is a reduction of armed forces, that is, this situation, for by which... moscow influences kyiv, indirectly or directly, but completely. in one or another format, in one or another form. but in any case, even if we imagine that there is peace and there are some peaceful conditions, such are unfavorable for ukraine there, well, relatively speaking, neutral status, as you say, refusal to join nato, even where the fact of recognizing the occupied territories as russian, even without a legal decision, which looks incredible today, which looks incredible today, but still even in such a country... this is true, but if we are talking about his goal, about his aspirations, not about the realities of life, i believe that today the situation in which russia will control ukraine is almost a fantasy, and there can be very unfavorable scenarios, but

imagine the situation that ukraine returns into the orbit of russia and becomes. conditionally speaking, there is a second, second belarus, i cannot imagine such a thing, even under the worst scenarios, but then the question arises, even if there are, say, significant territorial losses, significant territorial losses, this is still some kind of capture in the east and in the south, relatively speaking yes, but as far as i understand, putin is not interested in pieces of territory, that's right, no, but i say again, ah, he is under the influence of the military, who convince him that now... the pendulum has swung the other way, and for conditions of this intensity of the conflict, under such conditions as they are today, and theoretically also under the condition of a decrease in military and financial aid from the west, one and a half to two years, and russia will be able, in principle, to inflict a military defeat on ukraine and then dictate any conditions, here he is in it,

as far as i understand, he believes, i say again, i don't know what's in his head, but from the fact that... the information that is available, apparently, he came to this conclusion. well, that's why he has absolutely no need to hold any realistic negotiations, like in kyiv. absolutely. i think, and i say once again, there is no basis for peace negotiations at all, there are theoretical prerequisites for an agreement on a ceasefire. and because ukraine and the ukrainian armed forces are tired, because russia and the russian armed forces are tired. although no one ever says it out loud admits, but... but this is also true, because despite a sufficiently large, i say again, a sufficiently large resource of technical, material, military support, despite a much wider and larger mobilization resource, the russian troops are running out of steam, it is difficult enough for them, i.e. , they have fewer and fewer motivated, qualified fighters and commanders, i.e., the

tactical victories they have won recently, they are very successful... well, fine, but then the question arises, what is the point of moscow wishing for some kind of truce in this situation, if putin believes in victory in a year and a half, what does the suspension of hostilities give him ? i think that the talks about negotiations coming from russia basically serve two purposes. the first is, let's say, attracting attention, it is a certain pass to trump. on the one hand, and on the other hand, this is a game of preemption in case, after all , the situation, again, the landlord swings in the other direction, it is more profitable for him now, when... when he has an advantage, when he dictates to him with position of strength, he believes that now hint it is much better to negotiate than when the situation can change, theoretically it can

change, it is very difficult, but there are also a lot of smart people, experienced, starting with radakin and kavoli, they say that a war of attrition, even when allegedly disproportionate rivals fight among themselves, it can carry a lot of surprises, a lot of different ones. won wars, but if we take the wars of the last two centuries, then more than half of the wars were won by the small ones over the big ones, because the situation is not linear now and the war has changed a little, this does not mean that this is, let's say, a certain trend, but there is such a trend, but what are countries for? of the global south primarily china is trying to intervene in this process, would they really like to secure some kind of truce in the war, or is it just to increase their role, i think that on the one hand they want

to support the status of a great power, on the other hand, i think that it is china, he wants to control the process to a certain extent, that is, china is coming out, as far as i understand, that if god forbid or god forbid, i don't know what the point is vision dominates them, it will come to some negotiating rails, to control this process, because china is actually interested in the fact that this war continues, it is not interested in russia losing, i do not think that it is completely sure and wants to, for russia to win, but he wants this war to continue because russia's dependence on china in this war only increases, and it benefits china if russia loses, china is weaker if russia wins, and russia becomes a more powerful player, and i ride, this is also unprofitable, but now when... russia spends its forces, including its military and financial forces, it is beneficial to china, and therefore it wants to be involved in this process in order to correct it. now, if they say that there, for example, the west,

first of all, the states are trying to control the escalation, then china, for its part, also wants to control this escalation. well, it is clear that the status of a great power, it prompts, it forces cathay to the fact that it must have a peace plan, it must be at the center of this process. well, by the way, one more... moment truce, but couldn't there be a motive in which the interests of the west and russia coincide equally, if anything, unexpectedly, this is the moment of rebooting the ukrainian government, that is , russia may think that the truce, which will lead to elections in ukraine, will give an opportunity to choose more an administration ready for some disappointing compromises, well, not a party of war, because for it zelensky is a party of war, and the west may believe that... after 5 years , there is also a certain exhaustion of power, a partial loss not so much of legitimacy as trust on the part of the population and the new government will be able to continue this

conflict situation with greater opportunities, and therefore it is necessary to cease fire in order to give the opportunity to take place in the electoral process, can such a motive exist for the coming months? well, let's face it, first of all, i honestly don't really understand what the point of view of a collective measure is now, because... in my opinion , the position of the european union does not always coincide with the position of the united states, on the one hand, and on the other hand, within the european union there is at least three or four different views on how this war should end, what should be the support and what exactly, exactly how and exactly when the european union should do, and these disputes continue. further, now there is a certain reset within the eu, and the strengthening of both the extreme right and the extreme left, and those, they, principles. enemies among themselves, but they are unanimous in their reluctance to help ukraine. and orbán's activism itself, it is connected not so much with the fact that he is the way he is, but also with the fact that he

feels it very clearly, as an experienced politician, if someone did not treat orbán. on the other hand side, it is not entirely clear what the position of the united states will be. i don't know who will win the presidential race, but what will trump's position be and by the way, what will the position be. nobody really knows because they're completely different, but from the point of view of people who know both of them, they say they have one thing in common, they're not predictable, both of them, harris too, harris too, particularly in matters of foreign policy, which for her is not very close, and in which, and because, but to imagine that they are now in the coming months, if we we are talking about months, we agreed on some kind of joint pressure on ukraine in order to stop the fire. cancel martial law, hold elections, reset the government, it's hard for me to imagine it, firstly, and secondly, well, i don't really imagine an election, but

even if they happened, what would change? well, i don't think that anything will change, i say, how can they look at it from the outside, i don't think that they are so naive, that they do not fully understand ukraine, russia, the ukrainian-russian war and our national problems, unfortunately, we have seen this many times, but i do not think that they are so naive that they think that something can fundamentally change. indeed, there are a certain number of politicians, there are certain circles, there are certain countries, even, which for some reason ... some kind of this fetish of restarting the power of democratic elections, although i cannot imagine how it is possible to hold democratic elections in conditions of war, but for them it is principled, but not under the terms of an armistice, it is certainly possible to hold a demokratish, well, under the terms of an armistice, as a condition, if this the armistice will be observed by russia, and i have very little faith in this. in general, do you think that the united states and the russian federation maintain any contacts between themselves that would allow us to talk about escalation control,

this is a strange story. with andrii bilousov's call to loyda austin, that they were talking about some ukrainian special operation. the issue is not even about the special operation, it is about the fact that the defense ministers of ukraine, russia and the united states can confidentially discuss such contentious things among themselves. well, i can neither confirm nor deny this one information, because i don't know if it's a rumor, fable, gossip, or if it's a real fact. the fact that the united states and the russian federation maintain contacts, well, it was recognized by officials in washington and moscow, and it was. strange, no matter how they do it, well at least given the fact that the two most powerful nuclear countries, well forced, if they do not treat each other, no matter what the official rhetoric is, they have to maintain relations, at least working, at least in some issues, regarding escalation control, i think that the united states as well the states and russia are trying to control the escalation, but they do it not together, but each separately, each of them has its own set

of mechanisms, tools... how to do it, well, and accordingly, the fact that they coordinate their actions, well, to me it is difficult to imagine how to fight in general with this fatigue from the war that exists in public opinion, even not only in ukraine, but also in the west, we saw it, by the way, in the attack on ahmadiyya women, which did not particularly resonate with the world community, in the media, although, as a rule, such events, they appear on the front pages, in the first minutes after. how is it happening, look at this story there in the gas sector, there is the shelling of the school, much less level of consequences, but much more attention, it depends, well, in my opinion, i don't know if there is any universal answer, any universal recipe, i think what is correct, a flexibly constructed information policy, this information policy was schematically constructed, but

it was built and was effective at... the beginning of a full-scale invasion, and then it follows a certain inertia in our country, and today the level, quality, format of these information policy with regard to the internal audience, and with regard, especially to the external audience, it does not withstand criticism, it has not changed, and it is precisely about this national information policy, which could understandably with the support of diplomats, with the support of politicians, above all leading influence. on the attitude to the ukrainian war, to ukraine, this information policy has not been developed properly, well, and one more point, this, well, unfortunately, i will not say anything new, in order to change the attitude to ukraine, in order that this fatigue , it has stopped, so that it has weakened, that it has become smaller, victories are needed, they are extremely difficult to obtain now, provided that these victories appear, as it was, for example,

in... 22nd year, then also within the country , and from the outside it will be much easier to convince the world that ukraine can win, because now there is this disbelief that ukraine can win, and it has actually returned to the state of february, march 22, when almost no one believed in it, i.e. in fact, it is not fatigue from war, fatigue from the static nature of war, it is possible it is possible to say so, but also tiredness from war, because from static eyelashes. it's, well, let's say victory or defeat, it's, well, it's a subversive in military parlance, because really, when war becomes routine, it becomes routine in the cities, it becomes routine in the columns of the newspapers, it's very difficult to arouse yourself to some emotions, empathy is dulled, and this also applies to ukrainian citizens, unfortunately, but this...