by the eu and china, when the eu and the united states also begin to conflict. during his previous term, trump also actively attacked trade, not only china himself, but also the european union, there were big frictions there and they caused difficulties in the dialogue with the europeans. and china also assumes that this is trump's coming to power, of course, these are colossal risks for china itself, but it is also a window of opportunity, to get closer, closer to the europeans. i'll be honest, i'm surprised that they sincerely believe in what they can do to get the europeans to change their position and that they can, a dialogue can develop, but this is the chinese policy, they implement it consistently, they think that they can establish communication on a bilateral level with various countries, and thus achieve the promotion of their interests to the pan-european level , that's why they continue this dialogue with hungary, that's why they communicate with france, that's why george...

goes to china and they welcome her, so, that is, this whole process continues, and now they will most likely try to solve their trade issue through two-way communication, and then bring it to the pan-european level. and tell me, we need to pack our bags and go so quickly, if we are invited somewhere, that’s what i mean, how much time actually passed from dmytro koleba’s invitation to china, to his... going to gongzhou, well, several weeks , however, practically, because before the switzerland peace summit at the beginning, at the beginning of june, the deputy minister was in china, and there was definitely friction there, they did not agree to his visit until the very end, and then it was just before the conference in switzerland, when china also had to decide whether he was going there or not, and he also held a pause until the last, so it was very sudden.

well, do we need to agree to such schemes, maybe we should, if they want to see ukraine somewhere, they want to see the ukrainian minister somewhere, maybe we need to put forward our conditions for holding such meetings, and then meet, because, that is, not to give opportunities to use ukraine as a tool to improve relations with in europe, for example, of course it would be worth doing this, if ukraine had a strong position in this situation, we can really trade there, try with china. to say: if we do not have an understanding with you on our problem, we will look for communication with taiwan there or apply some other measures, but ukraine always has a weaker position against china, because we have trade with china for these six months we sold grain there for 1.7 billion dollars, and onei reminded about this in his press release that we buy your grain, remember this, we provide your logistics, that's about it, plus we from china supply

and purchase an extremely important creature for us now, these are drones, which potentially the chinese authorities can also influence, that is, we do not have such a potentially powerful position at the moment in order for us to be able to negotiate firmly there, to achieve our terms and so on, the more so , i think so, the president's administration has its own strategy in relation to china, it consists in finding a dialogue and a compromise, and now they are implementing it. and tell me, here you are are not surprised that the statements of the two ministries of foreign affairs differ so sharply in terms of theses that everything that ukraine needed, which is in the statement of the ukrainian foreign ministry, is practically absent in the statement of the chinese foreign ministry. maybe it doesn't matter much, after all, real negotiations happen behind the scenes, not in statements, but the very fact that there is no such territorial integrity, there is nothing to comment on, i am ready to comment exactly on what the chinese side says, i am monitoring. regularly

compares their press releases with what is happening behind the results of meetings from other countries, and the practice of expressing their position, which is radically different from the position of the guest, is a normal case for them. they very often express completely different conclusions and comments with the russian federation, yes, they always focus on what is important to them, in their press releases, on cooperation, on the development of partnership, on the fact that... this or that a country is or is not a participant in the belt and road initiative, depending on how long their diplomatic relations last and how successful they are , and so on, that is, china is more for them as it looks like a ritual, they reproduce certain standardized points there from communique to communique from press release to press release, and the addressee of these messages is most likely not even a guest or an internal audience, but the addressee is the countries of the global south, which ... china tries time and again

to demonstrate that it is a reliable partner, stable, peace-loving, ready to help in development, ready to support. solving some of their regional problems or conflicts, investing in their infrastructure and the like, i.e. china better than the united states, a leader for the world, is a way of such communication. and tell me, what do you think, father, the meeting between blinkin and wang yi, it led to some level of understanding, because wang yi told blinkin that the escalation is only increasing, the difficult issues are only increasing, and it is necessary, therefore, to make efforts to manage escalation. well , this means that china does not seek the normalization of relations with the united states, it simply wants escalation to be foreseen. eh, it's hard to say, i would attribute to here that this is a certain offensive line that the biden administration is implementing in

the chinese direction, it alternates, there was a certain stage when there was an aggravation, then there was a warming, the chinese side always likes to return to the fact that the leaders of the countries meet there. somewhere in san francisco at the end of the 23rd year, they reached an understanding, and now we are implementing their ideas into practical actions, but in reality, china always takes such a defensive position in relation to the united states, it always refutes all these attacks and so on. remember, the nato summit in washington and its main resolution, the main message which was that... china is now seen as the main instigator of the war, yes, there was a natural outcry in china, and they were very aggressive and so outspoken in their condemnation of it and commented on it in a very negative way, that is, it was not china that provoked the united states to such

offensive actions, but the united states regularly reminds, reminds and reminds china, accordingly, that its position is not the one that the americans would like and.. . they expect correction, and for china it is also a matter of principle. china cannot agree to american leadership in any issue, because in this case it will demonstrate its, let's say, subordination, what it is, is walking in the fairway of american policy, and not realizing its interests. therefore, in any hot situations, conflicts, in the corners of the world, it is important for china to demonstrate its autonomy, its independence and a certain alternative. how realistic is this given china's economic dependence on united states? you talk about ukrainian dependence, but china's dependence on the united states is greater than ukraine's dependence on china's economy. it is absolutely true, the dependence is high, and by the way, this dependence is also one of

the reasons why they are trying to develop relations with the europeans, expecting aggravation of relations with the united states. i officially pronounce their scientists, their public figures. such and such a position, the statement is that they understand that the united states will not change its course in relation to china, and that relations between the countries will not improve, on the contrary, will worsen. this is a long-term trend. for them, china is a rival to the united states, and they act within this logic. accordingly, china must now prepare for the fact that the situation will become more and more complicated. they continue internal reforms, they try to strengthen their degree. financial economic autonomy from the global economy, and they also try to connect all other countries they can reach through trade, through economic relations, to tie them to their economy so that they are in sync and act more in the interests of china than in the interests

of the united states. this is their strategy. thank you, thank you, mr. dmytro, dmytro efrimov, expert of the ukrainian association of china studies, associate professor of the department of international relations, kyiv-mohylyansk. academy, and he and i talked about a whole series of, i would say, meetings that took place now at the chinese foreign minister, who just a few days later met with the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, by the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, sergey lavrov, and the secretary of state of the united states, antony blinken, of course, this is only part of the meeting of the chinese foreign minister within the framework. and dmitry koliba's visit to gongzhou and the asean summit, but these three meetings are usually directly related to russia's war against ukraine and to the efforts of the united states to stop the support that china provides to the russian federation. vadym polishchuk, historian, political observer from israel

, is now in touch with us. and we will talk about the situation in the middle east. congratulations mr. vadim. good evening, mr. vitaly. well, a rocket hit the dutch heights. in the friendly village of majal shabs, where 12 teenagers and children died, yes, it seems to me that this is the final number, maybe it has increased now, it is still on the air. i haven't seen the latest news, this is, i would say, the biggest attack on this region, for the entire time of the war, which began on october 7 in 2023, what are the consequences of this strike, in your opinion, how realistic is the war between israel and hezbollah as a result of this attack. well, you saw that recently, both sides

somehow tried to maintain this level of escalation, which was, and there were some red lines drawn, the parties tried to adhere to them, because hezbollah did not want to immediately start a war, and neither did israel was interested in launching a full-scale military operation in the north without finishing. the matter is in the gas, but, as always happens, in such situations, such a black swan appears, which forces the parties to decide something, and this hitting this stadium, the druze village of dere rus, is just such a factor, and we see that israel cannot not respond, it cannot respond weakly either, and to respond too much is to start it. a full-scale war and whether israel is ready, today netanyahu flew in from

washington, where he urgently returned, and at 18:00 the meeting was supposed to start, and so far i have not received information about what they decided there, well, maybe nothing special will not report, we will see it in further events, what will happen next, but we we see that the druze community came forward. israel urgently demands such a tough answer on this matter, instead, here are the lebanese friends, they are dependent on the situation in lebanon, they are trying to somehow remove shizbala's guilt and transfer it to israel as usual. the same, by the way, i just saw a statement to the lebanese foreign minister buhabib, who said that hezbollah is ready to retreat across the river. litani, it is 29 km north of the borders of israel and

lebanon, if israel stops attacks on the territory of lebanon itself, it is possible to believe that this is a real, real attempt by hezbollah to avert some serious blow from israel, well, maybe, maybe they weren't scared so much of israel itself, because they had already learned. what and how does israel react and what does it affect, what factors affect israel, in particular the united states, this reaction of europe, the un and all that, but the reaction of the druze community is such a thing, well, which is not influenced by the united states states, not the european community, not the un, not any rules of war, the israeli prosecutor's office. lately he is starting to persecute people who stood up for the defense of the state, well, i think

that ukrainians are also a bit familiar with such a situation, and friends, they are such smart guys, and there was just an incident recently when jews were taken hostage in the territory of samaria some druze guys from the north of israel, and some negotiations began, and friends came and somehow explained everything to the local polestine. that they quickly returned them and apologized, you know, what about kadyrov over there in russia, you mean the yakut community, the druze community in lebanon, or the druze community in israel, we are israeli friends, but wait, as far as i understand, as far as i understand, these are still different communities, there is a community of israeli friends who are in the vicinity of haifa, and there is this community , which everyone is paying attention to now, the leader of which was yesterday in majal shamsi. but i apologize, this is a slightly different community, have you been to marjelshamka? these are

actually, these are actually syrian friends, but who are residents of israel, who live permanently in the territory of israel, but do not take israeli citizenship, right? they don't take it for some reasons of their own, well, i heard such an opinion that they don't take it because they are afraid that some peacemaker will appear at the head of israel again and give this territory away. to syria and then these friends there, the representatives of the most peaceful religion in the world will simply cut off their heads and everything will end there, so they refrain from it... somehow, but in principle, such a friendly, let's say, sense of community, it is quite large, and all these communities and syrian, jordanian, and lebanese, israeli, they still have such, well, coordination among themselves, it's just the druze religion that you need to know, that it is impossible neither

to become a druze, nor to accept this religion, or to marry there. on someone to accept, you can only be born, that is, they are for them , this loss of these children, i think that this is a very big blow, and they will not forgive this, i think so, well, because this is a small community, and not only small, but just, well , no one even knows what they believe in, but in general they are quite militant, they are very there are many in israel in such special forces, they are not the druze who live in the golan, that's right, they are the druze who live in the vicinity of haifa, no, in general they are warlike, i just read the history of this people, they used to run roughshod over there the entire near east, and before that they once ruled egypt, that is, interesting no, i was just me, i was in

drutka villages, which are located on the internationally recognized territory of israel, and one of them even has... a museum of military personnel who participated in the israeli wars, was in majal champs, and there's a syrian flag, i'm sorry, in the main square majorit, well, they, well , the fact that they somehow express their belonging to syrian citizenship is one thing, but the fact that they, well, killed their children, and it's not just there for them, well the offense is not... not to israel, but it is an offense to the friends as a religious community, and therefore it is a very personal offense, and you understand that this rocket, which hit this village, it is not highly accurate, it is just them there they launched a rocket somewhere there, well, it's somewhere there, they have something there, something nearby

a military object, and somehow she managed to fly right into this stadium, in which some... football competition was taking place, and they even started lying, saying that it was an israeli anti-missile, although everyone knows that they have anti-missiles there an indicator that it self-destructs if it does not hit the target, and this is just video footage, as if there was an explosion of 50 kg of explosives, and there would not have been such victims if it had not been such a strong explosive device, so i will not remove them here, now the news is so interesting that... lebanon, he told the defense minister israel to mr. gallant that the united states is concerned about a possible strike by the israeli military on beirut in response to the hizbullah attack because it could spin the situation out of control. can israel really strike beirut? well, if israel

decides to escalate, it can strike, it's very fat there. there is a whole area of ​​these shiites in sicily, where is hezbollah, it has such a kubul, there was recently information that there was a warehouse of weapons and ammunition at the airport in beirut, and there was enough for the whole of lebanon the scandal that the lebanese there are christians and so-and-so others, well, not shiites, they were indignant and remembered this explosion of ball saltpetre, if you remember, in the port of beirut, when half of beirut was destroyed there, they. fears that something like this will happen again, if israel strikes this weapon, the other half of beirut can be demolished. well, what about the politics of the united states, you see, they are everywhere trying to somehow keep the conflict within some framework that they consider safe for themselves. and the same in ukraine and in israel, so let's go

but we keep within such a framework, at least until the elections, and then we will see, well... it is somehow not very successful to keep like this, because it is the logic of war, it escalates independently of the wishes of the participants. by the way, about benjamin netanyahu's visit to the united states, if we have already mentioned the united states, do you think it was a successful trip in view of this speech in the congress, meeting with biden, kamala harris and trump at once, at the same time? well, the performance was brilliant. in general , i met, there was hope that he will somehow coordinate the operation against lebanon , and we will see from further actions whether

this coordination took place, as if there was information that i would coordinate, and with biden, well, i talked, biden you all understand that he is leaving and how much he will dare to do something on his own to leave the glory, whether he will drag this reluctance of some... escalation further to the end, whether a more determined politician might want to go down in history, it is difficult to say, because he is already, i do not understand how much he controls himself and understands what kind of world he is in it happens, here they really heard such it's a joke that he is such an experienced politician that he can lead without coming to any kind of consciousness, but everything has its limits, kamala haris reason. president biden is already interested in haris campaign right now, if he takes any drastic steps in relation to this middle east conflict, he could derail her campaign,

given the mood of the democrats and their electorate, biden's policy, she can still be considered, although he cannot say that he is a great friend of israel, but still he is compared to kamala harris, he is more, let's say a suitable person, kamala harris. she is known for her anti-israel policy, and her vice-presidential candidate there is the governor of arizona, he is even more so considered an anti-israel politician, so they can even more her companies conduct some kind of anti-israel rhetoric , taking into account especially the fact that the state of michigan, where there are a lot of lives precisely arab muslims, it is one of those states whose uh... well, whose votes affect the results of the elections, and about trump, well, you see, there were rumors, that trump is offended by israel, there because

of the fact that biden was congratulated, it seems not to israel, but to netanyahu himself, not so much, well, this meeting showed that the offense, if there was one, then it passed, after all, well, this not children, people are so grown-up, to be offended by politics is something in general. mikomilfo, well, in general, in israel, trump is considered more pro-israel and therefore hopes for his victory, and his vice president wentz, he is considered pro-israel, so let’s work, israel will work, who will be chosen, but of course, there is a desire for a certain position of the united states, especially in relation to iran. it has changed, and in order to push further, somehow to pacify this aggressor, well, in the future it is no longer possible, because it

is already taking such bizarre forms, i understand that the same problem of hezbollah is primarily the problem of iran, and it is interesting how iran will to react to it now, you understand that they, too, may not have expected such a blow as was iran, well, they usually immediately start making threats. i do not know what they are going to show off there, but they are really threatening that, look, don't do this, well, israel, will israel get scared , rather, it is calculated on the american reaction, you see, because they will try in any way to avoid any further escalation, i will be very surprised. if they say, well, let's decide with hizballah, because they will start to decide with hizballah, well, it will somehow start to spin up so much that we will have to go with iran, because it's all the same, well, the same links are,

er, postins. well, you see what is still there the problem of yemen, there was already such a serious attack from the side of yemen that even led to a drone landing in one of telavi's residential buildings, so by and large it's... a whole circle of these proxies of iran's army are already operating against israel, at different distances, well, you see, with yemen a little bit , they gave him a little bit of leeches and also there were already strikes by the american and british aircraft on other ports, well, there is still an opportunity to screw up his opportunities a little bit, although they are actually holding him hostage the yemeni people who are starving there. er, and they have all kinds of poor people there in this country, and they threaten to threaten that, you see, you bombed our port here, now there is no possibility

of these products. to send for these starving people, and he immediately rushed to restore something there, well , it actually is, just like in gas, this hamas keeps these arabs there as fodder, the same in yemen, everywhere the technology is the same, thank you, thank you for these comments, mr. vadim, vadim polishchuk, a historian and political observer from israel, were on our air. dollar cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility with dolgit cream , you can also walk dolgit - the only yellow cream for joint pain. the book women at war is a joint project of the espresso tv channel and duhi litera publishing house. the book is based on the reports of the presenter of the espresso tv channel khrystyna parubiy. 20 stories. fate,

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