there are no such decisive positions that can lead negotiations to the ukrainian interest. in general, the constant conversation and announcement of negotiations with russia, from my point of view , only strengthens the position of russia. i do not rule out that there will be negotiations, because any war ends with negotiations. i understand that only the president, by virtue of his information, gathers the economic and social situation. human resources, and external resources, and military resources, can make such a decision, but he should also explain the red lines to the nation. i remember how zelenskyi has constantly denied and, by the way, denies the need to sign minsk. but at the moment when 50,000 regular russian troops entered ukraine, our general staff gave president poroshenko a certificate that we have 15,000 combat-ready units plus good guys. accordingly, poroshenko included

diplomacy, but as a result of the minsk agreements, please note, russia did not receive a single meter of ukrainian land, russia was unable to limit the armed forces in any way, neither in numbers nor in equipment, and the missile programs went away, and ukraine there was no restriction on joining nato or any other military, the constitution wrote it, and now in istanbul we saw what another treaty could be. halving the size of the armed forces, banning equipment and weapons that shoot more than 40 km, neutral status, banning nato and even military maneuvers with russia's permission. i am already silent about the humanitarian pro-russian policy. so, look, from my point of view, if the president keeps talking lately about the need for negotiations, about readiness for them, it seems to me that he should address the nation and say that... at

the same time, we will not surrender any territory, we will not recognize any of our territory as russian, we will not limit the armed forces either numerically or technically, and we will not take in ukraine, its sovereign right to conclude military and political alliances with whoever we want, even with cape verde, which our president loved so much at peace forums, but to be serious, we are now at the peak of a critical situation for us, the point is , which is tightened... with political motives, the mobilization, which was started last year, if you remember, under zaluzhny, and then under syrskyi, has just now taken place, and the fighters have to go through five-week courses of initial training, there are two, three, sometimes four weeks left, the russians they know this, and all their advantage that they have in numbers, 550,000 years, and complete dominance in the air, and a tenfold advantage in... they have now thrown to

break through our front in these two or three weeks, in force that my brothers are near pokrovsk, the front passes 14 km from this key city, the route from pokrovsk for hours, well , through konstantinivka, the enemy stands 5 km away, so now is a critical moment, and from my point of view the president should not address peaceful wishes, but address us. with serious words, for example, on monday , all the children of my team, deputies, ministers, all levels, must be at the tcc at 10:00, all deputies on the list must be at the tcc at 11:00. the list will go up. i understand that this will not increase the strength of the armed forces, but it will the spirit of common cause. when the politician, the political class and the army are united in... in their tasks and

live the same life and the same problems. i believe that those who remained in the civil service in the ministries, 50% have armor from mobilization, should receive the minimum salary. not enough for the front, there are 100 thousand. you don't want to go to the front for 7,000 minimum wages. i apologize, because serhii leshchenko, a member of the supervisory board of ukrazaliznytsia, who has uah 24,200, seems to me to be doing less than any soldier. at the front, or the head of ukrposhta, who receives, according to the latest data 2 million hryvnias per month, or a prosecutor who receives, well, such an average level who receives 50-60 thousand, a soldier in the rear 30, let me remind you, or a people's deputy who receives 50,000, and two more assistants 50 each, it also seems to me, that this is not entirely correct, and not because this money will save the budget, but because then the war will be for everyone. and pasky should drag the political class,

not go on vacation, on the second day the minister of finance declares that we do not have half a trillion money to finance the armed forces of ukraine. and it seems to me that the president now this should be done, the mobilization of society, real mobilization, spiritual mobilization, when everyone is fighting, without exception, and in the end, put an end to the problems that have arisen now. i often visit my brothers, well, after all, my loved ones, and they say, listen, if the army lived by the laws of the rear. we would have lost the war in the 22nd year, well, look, it turns out that it is possible, we adopted the law of the servant that it is possible, in a case of corruption, for someone caught for a bribe, to simply pay the amount of the bribe and redeem himself, but, but hey, no, no having passed that's exactly what was removed, before, it was the correct

mechanism, i returned 1.5 billion bucks to the state, because one of the members of an organized criminal group handed over all the schemes, how the money was spent, who was behind... and that's why his apartment was taken away , a car and a small deposit in the bank, he received three conditionally, but the state received 1.5 billion dollars, is it zlochevsky or who, no, this is a little-known character, he was the accountant of 500 enterprises that took money out of ukraine, and he knew where everything it lies, and so we returned the money, and now we don't have to turn anyone in, you just need to pay one bribe for which you were caught and live peacefully, and now transfer this rule to the front, that is, the soldier does not want to go on the offensive to the post. or defend his landing, he simply pays, and the neighboring one leaves. what kind of war would it be? yes, aren't the conditions of the war in the rear actually the same , and isn't there not enough principle? or, for example, no one here wants to ban the branch of the fsb, which is called the russian

orthodox church, well, they simply lie down that it was developed a year and a half ago by the green cabinet, on the instructions of its president law, not to vote in the second reading. if we go by this analogy, then soldiers, for example, can safely legalize the fsb at the front and say that there is no need to liquidate them there, well, in principle, we are all people, what would it be like a war, or, well, take any other manifestation, for example, bribery, which servants delight us with this show every god's week, the bribes are constant, and at the same time, the deputy calmly comes to the hall on the second day and says, well, others also take. and i am a deputy, as they say without me, as they say about poroshenko as well they took, they also took, and moreover, the head of the temporary investigative commission on fortifications, took a bribe, was angry, returned to the hall, but refused to conduct now this tsk, everything

now needs to be checked for the quality of fortification attempts, and once again transfer this situation to the front, if a soldier who left his section of the front, on the second day he calmly came and demanded a medal for the fact that he exists at all, without him, like yuriy vitarovych, the concept of justice is such a relative concept, and no, there is no clear definition that universal concept, no one knows what it is, but everyone feels it, yes, but look, why does the current government not feel where, where there is justice, where there is no justice, because the government, from my point of view, is detached from the real situation in the country, well, how else to explain that , what is happening is impossible, i am probably already a little ee - it is repeated on the air, but this question does not give me rest, here i come, and such a junior officer of one of the units says to me: yuritalich, don't you understand that from the decisions of the supreme commander-in-chief and a simple commander-in-chief, the lives of my soldiers are not it doesn't matter, i say, how is it? he says:

because in reality we do not receive from them except for orders and a pile of paper reports, nothing, their lives depend on whether i am the commander. and my army commander will ask his compatriots, relatives and fellow villagers or his community for money for fivas and slaves, because i will not get them from the state, and their lives are protected only by them, i tell him, look, i saw how from the ministry of statistics in one unit passed 50 fpv, they are not of very good quality, we still need to work with them, but i see, he says yes i know they are coming there but i cant buy this fpv and i cant buy these guys. because they are not certified, and the cities cannot buy, they give money to our brigade, the brigade wants to buy, but the ministry of defense does not allow it either, because they are not certified, and certification takes four months and bribes at every step, well, someone should be busy in the country, but when you ask why

there are two parallel wars, the one we see on the marathon screen and the one that is in reality, it is because they are reading. only victory reports, yes, my heart also warms when our drones drove the black sea fleet, damn sign where to the corner of the black sea, yes, i am happy when the russian ones are on fire. oil depots, but it seems to me that at the same time the question should be asked, what is the set of troops, and if it is, well, let's say, incomplete, i will put it this mildly, then there is no need to tell from a single marathon that we have 14 complete new brigades , which they don't have weapons, so maybe just fill in the existing ones, especially since there are fired guys who will teach the young, if you have a billion for drones, $15 billion for drones. please buy for only 20 million dollars a reb that will close the entire

front, the entire front, bukovel, ipeti, it doesn't matter, and then our soldiers will not have rain on their heads, well, these are simple things to ask, after all , ask what the state defense order is, what the army needs, well, everyone knows this, it is developed at the end of each year and executed next year, who is responsible for this schedule, where is this schedule, who are these persons, how are they? interest enforcement, someone is punished, someone is rewarded, but it's moving, it's all chaotic here, it all depends on how the engineers develop some cool new kind of weapon, find a cool unit willing to test it, then find a businessman, a sponsor, who will finance it , and all this between all the obstacles that the ministry of defense has built in terms of documenting these weapons, well, this is the third year of the war, well... it is impossible to conclude at this moment that we have a separate armed forces, which reminds me more and more

the armed maidan, this is the same maidan, which is itself, now your words will get into this news monitoring, will be read in the president's office, about the armed maidan, they will remind you, look, i don't mean the revolution, everyone knows that i a staunch opponent of any political actions, even more so during the war, during the war, but... this is the atmosphere of the maidan, when strangers gave their lives for each other and gave everything they could so that the maidan would achieve a common goal, the same now at war, complete strangers have become brothers and sisters, that's all all their acquaintances are mobilized by common tasks, and all this happens horizontally, and there is a separate vertical, that vertical, which has enormous money, sets huge fantastic tasks, which does not control the arrival of these tasks to the trenches, which... created a paper, not the ninth, 29th wave of papers and reports is a separate life,

fortunately, the armed maidan is such a self-sufficient combat unit of the ukrainian people, which has always survived without its state, that it wins even in these conditions, but if we really want win with less blood, then the state must finally stop the pathos of victory. and coffee in yalta in a month, the government, because the state is a broader concept, the government, i agree, must mobilize the state to serve the armed forces, with all the resources of the state, with all the help of international partners, to help the armed forces, so far, unfortunately, these two worlds very rarely intersect in military practice, if this does not happen and these two worlds do not intersect, how does this threaten ukraine, we will win, but... with much more blood, the whole problem of this war, because sooner or later we late

we will win, sooner or later restored its territorial integrity and sovereignty, but the price of war depends on the coordinated work of war management, i dare say so, and if i apologize, someone cannot find 20 million dollars, while, for example, 2 billion euros simply disappeared. and did not protect the energy sector, and this could have closed the entire front line with a reb, so that all these fivishkas, drones, halls, superkams and all this cholera would not snarl over our soldiers, well, the price will be higher, but we will still win, yuriytovich, i wanted i want to ask you more about iryna's case farion, because you were once the minister of internal affairs and the prosecutor general of ukraine, the ministry of internal affairs caught the suspect of iryna's murder. they said that vyacheslav zinchenko is the person who is suspected of

murder, that this case has been solved, the suspect in the murder farion himself denies guilt, let's listen to what he says, i didn't do anything, no, i didn't do anything for nothing , you can, well, i'm more interested in a little question, what do you want to hear from the question, what do you want, what? nothing, it's not me, he says, it's not me, they caught this guy, he's 18 years old, he says, it's not me, in your opinion and in your opinion from what you know, what can you say? to say about this case and about the suspect, in the first hours of this murder i believed and to this day i believe that this case was organized by the fsb. it is in the same vein as the case of the murder of the journalist gangadze, the case of sheremet, by the way, her anniversary was literally the next year after the murder of

mrs. farion, the murder of a former journalist in kherson, the murder of the russian deputy voron. if i'm not mistaken, in kyiv, etc., and despite that, that some of these revealed murders were carried out by the hands of ukrainian, often activists of the ato, right-wing movements, it was an order of the fsb, for which reason, russia cannot seriously advance on the battlefield, well, i apologize, for a year and a half i have already been discharged from the army, and the fighting is going on where i graduated, kordyumivka, oleksandrivka during oemier. they went from bakhmut to chasur 14 km, and from avdiivka this year they went as much as 30 km, so they can't defeat us on the battlefield and that's why they're trying to blow us up from the inside, they count on that a domestic ukrainian war will begin around the assassination of political figures whom many love and many hate, which has always

led us to lose military victories. fortunately, ukrainian society has become so mature. who understands this, and even those who had a very difficult, to put it mildly, relationship with spheyon, expressed their sympathy and certain positive statements about her goals in life, you can agree with the methods, you can not, i, for example, do not agree, but the goals were ukrainian, now in terms of specifics, i i believe that it is possible to say a good word about the lviv operatives, it was the lviv operatives who did the work. asked, video cameras were removed, from the evidence it was understood that the boy was sitting in the yard, dressed like a parrot, so bright, but there were evidence that he left the yard and changed into a black t-shirt, then he was identified by video cameras, bus, exit at the end, entrance to the residential complex where he lived, apartments

for rent, realtors, the phone from which it was paid... from the same phone, as far as i know, the pistol, sports, transformed into a combat one, and the police did their job, they took the person and the main phone, now the investigators have to do their job, the investigators have to find the gun and tie it to the one who shot, because today it is really not a fact that this the guy shot, maybe he just distracted his... bright armor, and now they talk about it in such bad words in court, or maybe he shot, dropped the gun, knowing that he wouldn't be found, and is playing this game , how it will depend on the actions of operatives and trackers, but it was not for nothing that i said about the phone, in the phone from what we are shown in the ministry, his activity is active

within the ultra-right, or rather pseudo in... ultra-right nationalist electronic, let's say, networks. i am reporting to you that after the start of the war in ukraine, about two hundred similar sites were created by the efforts of the fsb. and when i talk about good words about lviv operas, i can't say the same about the service that has to control these electronic production points and zombify them. well, let's say so, immature personalities, this is a task security services of ukraine, their cyber intelligence had to figure them out, if they cannot close them, then introduce their agents there and know everything that is being prepared by these fsb production and zombification centers. unfortunately, this was not done, if you ask sergey why, then

you know the answer, because this unit was busy following up with journalists, anti-corruption officers, filming. drain in saunas for other things and a little let go of his main state task, and serious conclusions must be drawn from this, that's what i can say about this case yuritavich, well , in my memory there were many such political murders in ukraine, if you take it, i don't know if it is possible to qualify the death of chornovol, it is not completely clear whether it was a murder or not, you are definitely his you know, i am sure that you have seen all these cases and you know them. details of these cases, hetman, chornovol, the same yury kravchenko, and gongadze, and sheremet, and varaninkov, this former deputy. in the version with sheremet, there was a story

when the performers turned out to be probably not those, or there was not enough evidence that all this was hanged on antonenko, on duke kuzmenko, and there is no evidence that they did it, why do we always have a problem with the investigation of political murders, well, political murders. are one of the most difficult for the reason that a politician always has many enemies, dozens of versions of a possible customer arise instantly, and secondly, as a rule, such murders are generously financed and well prepared. if we are dealing with the fsb, and i am personally convinced that the gangadze case, the shermet case, the voronenkov case, the i can't remember now, the journalist was killed in kherson before the war. er, and the matter, fayon, this, this is one and the same kidney, one, the murder bureau, which is located in moscow, in the premises of the former korb,

it is always difficult to solve it, after all, we found the perpetrators, and in the chornovol case, the executor is appointed, and the organizer is appointed, well, she is adze pukach, that's for sure, this is the organizer, that is, the customer is not kuchma. to my deep conviction, the federal service of russia, the fsb, well, if only because in order to bind kuchma, yes, kuchma, who declared the fact that ukraine should join nato, just two months later he got this murder, which was hanged on him, yes, he is guilty of creating a regime in which his opponents or critics were persecuted by the power vertical, but well... at least no evidence was obtained anywhere that he ordered to kill him, that he spoke badly about him under various pro-active situations, yes, but

i apologize, major melnychenko eventually appeared in moscow on red square, and demanded from kuchma, from kupny, for his films, and received them, several million dollars, and refused to come, the russians paid him for these no ukrainians, and when... after the victorious maidan, we invited him to testify, he categorically refused, and only appeared in yanukovych's ukraine, in order to further continue your business. i am absolutely convinced that it was beneficial to the fsb, because kuchma was politically isolated all over the world, people like you, probably, and i, went to rallies, to film the dictatorial regime that kills journalists, well, you were the leader of the protests, ukraine bezkuchno , one with yes and then kuchma, driven into a corner by isolation in the west and protests here, went to moscow and received a looker with the surname

medvedchuk. after that, ukraine's path through yanukovych's government was simply a highway. this was the result of the murder of journalist honradza. we can talk about others, but there probably won't be enough time. we can also mention the attempted assassination of yushchenko, because this case is also somehow the same. absolutely correct, you have to understand that there is yushchenko's case, and everyone there too, what was established, shochenko told me that everyone was established, even from where this dioxin was there, it just remained in court, no, dioxin was brought from moscow, on a plane, established by whom, but knowing and proving are two different things, and that is why a large group of ms. halyna klymovych, well, collected hundreds of volumes of examination documents, etc. no evidence was obtained for a specific person, and even that he was in ukraine, but again , politically, it is absolutely clear, they did not

want to kill yushchenko, they wanted to make yushchenko incapacitated, like the person who worked for viktor andriyovych in the first few years after the dying revolution, i will tell you that the first year it was very weak, it is very difficult to get through. from this terrible condition, and when i couldn’t understand it for a long time, if they wanted to, why didn’t they triple it, because they didn’t want to kill, but to make the body an incapacitated vegetable, but the body, well, they rushed to the doctor in time, if, if there was another one, but the doctors intervened in time and yushchenko was able to, well, come out alive at least, and then able to work, that's why it was, and i'm sorry if it's not political orders, but... constantly, when the maidan somehow quieted down, here provocateurs also appeared, who were commanded by the fsb group that was sitting in the kozatsky hotel, and when there was a bloody

shooting on the maidan, then in the case there are, if i am not mistaken, 20 or so phone calls between yanukovych and putin, as well as the ministers , the russian and ukrainian security forces were constantly calling each other, and this completely coincides with the waves of violence that are happening on the maidan, putin was just pushing, kill them, chase them, seize power, so look, we live near a country that considers acceptable any methods, from terrorism to... war, if you and i talked about this whole topic, for example, in 20, well, like, let's say, in the 13th year, you would say that i am a fantasist, but after on the 14th and after the 22nd, well, it all comes together in a single scheme, another question, of course, everyone who is watching us now will ask, why didn't you catch them, who did the fsb? well, even the british special services, which established exactly the people who tripled, the refugee on the territory of britain,

all this is so, but they cannot establish either of them, because they hid in russia, by the way, they they also worked in ukraine at the beginning of the war, and they cannot name the exact customer, because this is the essence of a political order, the order itself is spoken in a room where one or two people are present, but we have forgotten, let's say about... about kravchenko, that is about kravchenko such before, until now it is not clear how he shot himself twice in the head, there are such cases, well, there are such cases, look, the question is not how many times it happens that even five times with a fork a person would there are, there are convulsions, there are special ones, well, how can we say, yes extreme situation, anything happens, that is, he was not killed, but it does not happen, when a person shoots a second time, there is no blood in the lungs. at least

once he should have inhaled blood, there is no blood in his lungs, what does this mean? stop shooting, there was the first and control, he was helped to leave this world, it was not a murder, it was a suicide, but with an assistant, well you, you never found those who helped him, i have a version of what this is, because this person left ukraine very quickly after that, a person close to him... who left immediately after the funeral, but again to prove something, well, first of all, this matter was not in the hands of the ministry of internal affairs, but in the hands of the sbu, which is also very strange for me, but look, there are other stories, for example, about that jongadze, and they were tied up there a lot of characters, but dagaev died from poisoning, and there were a lot of people there, after that a few more also

from poisoning, that is, here... the system of sleeping and open agents, including fsb residents, worked with impunity, worked absolutely calmly. and mr. livanchenko could be right in that everyone knew these residents, and the official residents in embassy, ​​and not very official ones, who simply openly recruited our employees, including for terrorism, and the ukrainian sbu, attention, was officially forbidden to recruit any citizen. of the russian federation before the orange revolution, it is forbidden, despite the fact that everything in us was permeated by their agents, so now we are just coming out of this comatose colonial state in which we were, i think that our special services have now become 10 heads stronger, the russian agents we know 100 times better, we have to finish, and that means that ukraine is becoming a full-fledged

state, which can now... know who their lutsenko is. friends, in 15 minutes we are enemies, who are their friends. thank you, it was yuriy , let's go back to the studio, we will have people's deputies of ukraine, don't switch. tear gas, rubber bullets and thousands of protesters. protests erupted in venezuela after the current president, an ally of putin. nicolás maduro announced victory in the elections for the third time, he is accused of falsifying the results, and what will these protests lead to? we talk about this in on today's edition of bbc live from london. jafer omerov works in the studio. mass protests and riots on the streets of various venezuelan cities began after the incumbent president nicolas maduro was declared the winner of the election on sunday.