is there also to use anti-personnel mines there, in order to put blocking lines on the paths of possible advance of the enemy? well, the issue of mining with monks, it has already been removed, monks are mined without any problems at all, when we talk about the serial production of your machines, last time in our conversation you talked about the fact that the technological processes have really been established, but these recent messages from the chinese side.. that the export of components for drones and other means used there by other countries will be limited there by the way, does it create any risks for the relatively speaking rhythmic execution of certain orders, if we rely partly on chinese components? well , look, i have two platforms, this is ratel m, this is a logistics platform of 250 kg load 30 km, ratel h is 650 for 30 km, there the composition

of ukrainian products is about 70%, about 20% europe and about 10% china, respectively, if china completely bans the export of its products, it is trivial, we will not hear it, it is trivial that the platform will become more expensive at all significantly, by five percent, ratels is a camikadze remote miner, as of now it is 70%. to china, we are already fully testing our communication systems, and accordingly, i think that in two months it will be 40% china, and by the end of the year it will be 10%, and maybe there will be no china at all, in general, this component will exclusively lie on the cost of the platform, because europe, the usa, there are solutions, but they are significantly more expensive. taras, the funds in the form of orders are enough to create new solutions there on... to those platforms that exist, is it enough?

profitable part of contracts with the ministry of defense or other customers in order to develop and create new solutions. as of now, three platforms are in serial production, three platforms have state contracts, already contracted for next year, we are talking about state contracts, not about volunteers, only state contracts, the rnd department is working, the rnd department is working as follows, 50% of the rnd department is working. on the improvement of serial products and 50% on new products, this year we plan to make two more products, at least one the product, we will probably present, it will be an evacuation platform in a month already, this is cool, i would like to ask about the enemy, last time you said that the enemy is dynamically developing, including in the creation of robotic ground platforms, what are the directions those that we should pay attention to, so that there is no such...

advance that the enemy could potentially have, which we should pay attention to there in the organizational, technical, military sense, in order to minimize any opportunities for the enemy to have there certain advantages on the field battle as of now , the state is very involved in robotic platforms, the state is very actively contracting, very actively helping with scaling, and as of now, in terms of scaling, we are 100% ahead, in terms of technological solutions, we are also 100 in... ahead, the russians make products, pass exactly the same way as us, unfortunately, they have support for chinese components, but in my personal opinion, they lag behind us by more than six months, if china completely closes exports, they will have, given the sanctions, closed europe and the usa, in there will be no more technological solutions, and if china is closed, russia will suffer more than we will. mr. taras, thank you very much for joining our broadcast and for the explanation. for our viewers,

for what you do for our country, for our military, so that our armed forces really have a technological advantage over the enemy. let me remind you that it was taras ostapchuk, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, as well as a project manager related to the creation of ratel robotic platforms, we now see that we have a whole line of these of products, where there are kamikaze robots, mine-mining robots, and multifunctional platforms that can carry out wounded from the battlefield, this is what is currently used by our airborne assault brigades, and we see that there are orders for these products, so this is a completely positive trend, which is based on the capabilities of the team and on the financial capabilities of our state. these were the main military results of this day, then the broadcast will be continued by vasyl zima, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. thank you. thanks to his guest,

we will continue the great ether, i am reminded my name is vasyl zamai, before we move on to the conversation with the guests, we have very substantive and interesting conversations today, i suggest you join the fundraiser that in... is announced by the espresso tv channel and the vesna charitable fund, they are opening a fundraiser for the purchase of modern drones and electronic warfare systems for the third separate assault brigade, as well as for the 110th and 47th legendary brigades of the armed forces of ukraine. and defenders in the donetsk direction every day hold back enemy attacks, defend our freedom and future. they stood and defended these wars to the last the avdiiv direction in the spring, so there are a lot of losses and it is necessary to renew resources. they urgently need flying weapons and modern means of countering enemy drones. these technologies are critical to protecting our soldiers. our goal is ambitious - uah 3.5 million. i will ask my colleagues to let me see how much we have already managed to collect.

i will let you know about it later. well, now we will just donate and believe that each of our donations can close this large, but very necessary collection. remember, each of your donations brings ours closer victory, together with... we can protect those who protect us. now let's listen to our defenders. good health, dear ukrainians, we, the soldiers of the first assault battalion, the third separate assault brigade, who defend our native land on the front lines, urgently need your help. we need means of radio-electronic warfare against the enemy's small bpols and komik drones. we really appreciate your help. glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes! glory to the heroes, we believe that we will be able to collect this money as soon as possible, the soldiers will be able to purchase what what they need to continue effectively fighting the enemy on the battlefield. well, but the enemy operates not only on the battlefield, the enemy launches rockets, shahedis and all other flying, flying

weapons on the territory of the country, where there are no direct hostilities, very often these debris, or the shahedis themselves, on houses, apartment buildings and private houses, civilians, and the debris flew into the house of pomerov, a russian opposition politician who has been criticizing putin's policies for a long time and whether he can help ukraine and those russians who today also are fighting against putin, to defeat this criminal regime, which has turned the entire state, russia , in fact, into a terrorist state, and now it has come to ilya, ilya, i congratulate you, good. i looked with horror today at the photos that you posted on the social network, thank god very much, probably the air force that everything went well after all, please tell me more about what happened, and you said that it already the fifth attempt to attack you by

the putin regime, tell me more, please, that's right, i'm sorry for my face, but today there was an event... they actually, they started yesterday, three drones came to me yesterday, but our ppo shot them down, and they all fell there 50 to 100 miles from the house, and everything was damaged, so you 're showing there now there, how the trees damaged everything else there, well, but there the house was more or less all right, and in fact. we thought that, well, they were heading there once, well, the pposhniks were shot down, well, probably, they were just flying by, but this morning the fourth one arrived, and it arrived at a time when

there was a repulse of the air alarm, that's why the air defense didn't work, they didn't shoot at him, and that's why he flew to his... target and this target ended up being my house, that is, it became clear that the previous three, they were actually heading for it , and this is something new, may be there, they were inspired there by the successful action of israel against ismailo haniya in iran, and so they decided to use iranian, iranian drones. in such a symmetrical attack, i don't know, well, but this, this, this is the first time this has been done, and please tell me this, i i understand that explosives technicians and experts have already worked near your house, they took the wreckage of this aircraft, it was a mine, or

was it, well, if i can say, i don't know, i 'm just asking, because now the enemy is using this, his newest disassembly , development, and i would, well, that’s what they call it... shit is on fire, but in reality everything is not so funny, although it is made of foam plastic, it is called gerbera, it is a russian drone, it performs more reconnaissance functions there, well, but also i understand it can explode, so what is it... was it what exactly flew into your yard? no, it's the classic 136th shachet, it's called in russian, geranium, geranium 2, and that's exactly the kind of wreckage we found, that is , we have several wreckage from several drones there now , and all of them have geranium 2 written on them. and have you already tried to find out, maybe. through my colleagues, maybe through some of my contacts, somewhere out there, if there are, i don't know, among

people who may have sympathy or understanding for you in the territory of russia, whether there really is an order to attack, to search, as they say, your the house and you personally, and the second question, well i, for example, don't know where you live, i think most people don't know where you live, well, they don't care about it, but in any case, if you want to inquire, well , you should, well, you should... track, track, you just don't know where a person lives, but he lives somewhere, how do i know where he lives, that is, i understand that someone is already pointing to the house, did you try to find out or maybe ask employees of law enforcement agencies in order to deal with this issue, if it is true, and you from the fact that you you say, it follows that this is a premeditated attack, and as we remember, there was once an attack on the house of the head of the nibulon company in mykola. yes, vadatursky, who was actually killed by a targeted rocket hitting his bedroom, this was at the beginning

of a full-scale invasion, that is, such things are used by the enemy, and here again there is nothing strange, so did you manage to find out whether some case was possibly initiated regarding this, so that it is possible to find the person who made this allusion, well, look like this, v in the case of vodoturskyi, and i knew him personally, everything is clear there, there is a well-known person, ah, who... was a gunner, this is a person from his closest circle, and well, with my information, i am probably wrong there, but this what i heard, and i believe that the roots of it, it was certainly not a political order from putin's side, because putin never knew what kind of company nebulon was there, and who vodatursky was, or if it was such a local showdown, to which they were involved for money. military russian, that here, in relation to this case, there

the situation is completely different, in one of the in the previous attempts, they had already installed the address of the house, and we knew about it, it was not a secret for the ukrainian services that they knew about it, but the security there was very... firmly so set that, that they could not do anything with it to do, and neither in ukraine, by the way, nor in poland, nor in the united states, where i visit quite often, they could not do anything, and that is why this idea with a drone appeared, an order from putin, and this is the newest stage of the struggle for destruction, it began in march, putin for some reason decided that i was in favor terrorist attack on the brink of defeat, he spoke about it

publicly, he said that we know that there is a person there who was a russian politician who escaped and now lives in ukraine, who is organizing all this, why he decided so, i don't know but i believe that the real reasons are in the second, in the other, but well... he said so and gave the appropriate mandate, the mandate to many circles, because they all compete, one with the other, there are chechens separately, there is the gru separately, fsb separately, well, here someone found out about it and, for example, decided to carry out the order in such an innovative way, an order to the boss, well, i just want to say that take care of yourself and let ppo shoot down what will come. i have one more question for you: the russians somehow unexpectedly exchanged so much,

they exchanged with the united states of america, they gave the journalist ivan hershkovich, the marine paul whelan, whom the russians exchanged, citizens of the united states of america, and what does this indicate, about some, well, when there are always some such exchanges, as the history of even the cold war testifies, it means that somewhere about something manage to come to an agreement and find points of contact, what does this indicate and who... was given to russia? well, look, russia is very cynical about all these exchanges, they understand that hostages are a commodity, it's the same as money. and this is such a consistent policy on the part of mr. putin, now he understood that biden did not want even hershkovich to be fired by trump. he wants everything for himself, it's like his political capital before the end of his term,

like the president, and putin. played on this, putin needed a variety of killers, spies, there are cyber fraudsters, i.e. people who carried out the state orders of the russian federation were caught, and here it is important that another, new ones appear in their place, and that is why it was necessary to prove to these potential... others that the guys , everything will be fine, if even you, you fail, you will be arrested, then you will sit there for 3-4 years in comfortable conditions, and then we will exchange you, then the koruchniks, as in principle it happened, i thank you very much, and there , new killers just appear because of this, i thank you very much, mr. ilya, once again, take care

himself, thank god that god spared him, and may all be well, in spite of that. that russia is attacking your house and you personally. ilya ponomarov, a russian opposition politician who systematically opposes putin's policies and supports ukraine in this unjust war on the part of russia. well, after the alarm was over , shahed flew to his yard, although ilya was injured, as you can see, cuts, he still survived and we wish him health and safety. and now we will talk about something else, on a different topic. well, she is also political, but already more internal political. taras , a political technologist from abroad, is in touch with us. mr. taras, i congratulate you. yes, have a good day. i still want to start with this, with this scandal that is spreading in social networks today, but here, as they say, you need to know the original data and the base, because there are a lot of rumors now, well, as always, curses, accusations , it is not known what,

it is not known how, calls from business, and explain what kind of company there is, where it is and how, i explain what the matter is. and the ohmadit charitable foundation chose the zaporizhia firm bood technologie the winner of the tender for the repair of the hospital building, which was damaged by rocket fire in july. well, here it starts with the fact that there were many applicants, but they chose a company that offers to perform certain works at almost twice the price. from what she said, this company does not have all the necessary equipment, and the authorized capital is uah 500, in principle, it is not so well-known on the market and such things have already started before... which means that someone created such a company, through which they will now be to launder money, or rather it has begun a story that i don't want to continue, because i don't know if it is true or not, explain what is happening, huge sums were collected by businesses, citizens, our foreign partners, they invested a large amount, now we have to rebuild, and here with "there is such a story, how to interpret it, well, the question is, the tender

was held, well, it was, it's one more time, when you see... a bandit on the street, you ask, ask the bandit to fight by himself, no, you can ask, the question is as a result only, yes, no, no, well, you ask, where are the police, yes, well, the law enforcement agency, we have who is responsible for corruption, anti-corruption agencies, there are many of them, we have many of them, so here is the question, all journalists, including the public, must specifically understand that it is necessary to force specific bodies to work, if you you see that... there are specific violations, you turn to buyusab and demand results from them and so on, because these empty shelves that officials steal, they do not lead to anything, we must already clearly and clearly understand, the money was written , well done, turned, now you, who is there, or wants, well, there are anti-corruption activists, let them

ask themselves what will be done there, because this nonsense that everyone there is stealing something, it is already... unpromising, it has nothing to do with a specific result, i always, you know , i give a concrete example of how people are fighting, for example, an association with state institutions, there is such and such an initiative you can find on facebook, there is a popular initiative such and such, people have gathered from different cities, coordinate actions, search for various tenders for transparency and apply for instance to the state auditing service and tenders that they don't like are misplaced, they don't shout that someone is stealing, stealing and so on. they force officials to work in cooperation with officials, well , tenders for 25 billion have already been lost together, this is adult behavior, and our task is to ask, what is the reaction? i will buy it myself, yes, where are the law enforcement agencies that are responsible, including for the work of the law for the fight against corruption, if there are suspicions that something has been done there, well, yes, this topic just

became known now, we will see, we will see, there may be requests, there may be some other further action, so it should be included, we have a bunch of these anti-corruption activists who, for some reason , do not ask the buyustap why they work so badly, but they just parasitize on conversations about corruption, i want to see... specific work from them, i want to see how they apply, get on the nabu and ask what happened there, yes, because from what is known, this is this company, the zaporizhia company boot technology, well, again anyway, there's no advertising here, i'm just stating the facts, because it's, ah offers an offer for 307 million, and the rioola model company, which previously built this building , offers 179 million uah in its tender offer, that is, well, again, we need to study here, because as a representative of one of the companies said, i will not... to name, they are engaged in road construction, who invested money in this charity project, and they say, we, as businessmen who earned this money and gave theirs, want to know, yes,

maybe you really have super specialists, super technologies, so be it more expensive, that is not 25 billion hryvnias, well, that 's a lot of money there, but if it's going to be something so hi-tech, super duper cool, armor-piercing, well, maybe, maybe, so be it, just show me everything, please, let's wait, maybe will really show, well, maybe it really will be about... look, if this, this, this should be, if it was appointed, then there was a tender, where is the tender, show what kind of work they promise in reality, well, it is not excluded, what you say there, that there is some there, it is already then the responsibility of those who this tender conducted, because if suddenly something goes wrong, you checked, then you are responsible, those people who will provide this tender, that's how officials need to be educated, that's how officials need to be educated, and this should be done by law enforcement agencies, volodymyr zelenskyi, president of ukraine, i... i'll just start with a quote, referring to the head of our state, and my respected one, only after that we will diverge a little in different directions, because there the streams flowed wherever possible.

most countries, the head of state says, want to to see russia at the second peace summit, well, it's true, representatives of different countries talked about it, it's not necessary here, it's not the president 's idea, it's the way it is, that without russia it's impossible to agree on some plan, because it just doesn't want to and that's it and that's all, well, negotiate without me. and secondly, the second topic is that nato today declares that no one at the nato headquarters at all believes that ukraine will return its territories, well , again, this is a matter of faith, not faith - this is such a matter, and therefore the next 6-7 months, the issue of negotiations will still arise, and he talked about it there is also trump, well, many different people, in your opinion, as of now, if we talk about why the president is talking about this, is it influenced by public opinion, and public opinion is such that, according to the research of the kyiv international institute of sociology, 57% citizens believe that it is necessary to enter into negotiations, not to surrender the territories, or, well , i do not say to surrender, temporarily not to recognize them

as unrecognized and occupied, but precisely about the negotiations, in your opinion, at what stage is this happening, what is happening behind the scenes and why they really started talking so actively from different sides precisely about the beginning of the negotiation process, at least about preparation for the negotiation process. process, look, well, well, i believe that this is a diplomatic game, which is connected, that's why russia tells everyone that it is ready to win there, well, the countries say, there are negotiations, okay, let's go, there is a decision of the peace summit, let's according to the peace summit, where countries were present, and this is part of the plan of zelensky's peace plan, which was voted in the un, yes, and now the question shows everyone the world, that russia is irreplaceable and that it is not going to come anywhere, because on the eve of the first... peace summit, russia rolled out absolutely unacceptable conditions that western countries will never accept in their lives, what did they say: withdraw the troops from

zaporozhye, kherson and other regions , come to an international conference, record the results of the annexation, western countries will never go for it in their lives, that's it, everything ends there in principle, and that's why there is someone in nato, something there says and so on. listen, they have since the first days large-scale invasion, this is a dumb question to the ukrainians: when you will finally die, you will not prevent us from living peacefully and trading with russia, that is the question, you know, and that is why when to start listening to someone, someone there is thinking something and so on, i i agree that ukraine should not go on a counteroffensive and everything connected with it, what we are often told by various international partners, let's show the results, i think that... we should promise everything, stockpile weapons, if it comes to specific pressure, ask them to send soldiers, let them show results, so on the battlefield, we need

to accumulate a resource. and strike on the territory of the russian federation, without transferring the war to the territory of the russian federation, unfortunately, this war can last quite a long time. for this , we need our own weapons, you see what a whistle-blower they are giving us again, so we will not give missiles, hit not hit, that is, you must understand, the policy of the united states of america, in the first place of the russophile lobby of seliven burns, is that the war took place only on the territory of ukraine. but the ukrainian rockets hit russian positions, formations and locations of manpower in the kursk region, it was about neptune, if i am not mistaken, they even decided to rename it to zebs, because after all, it does not hit the sea, but the land, i also have the same idea, by the way, moreover, the president said that our missile program is developing and soon you will see the results, that the work is ongoing, and this is

really inspiring. well, valenia has flown in, this is confirmation, confirmation that valenia has flown in, these are already the cries of finland, which is starting to say that it is also going to peace talks, an incomprehensible truth, with which result, it means that it definitely arrived, because it is 170 km away, they are definitely from their border, they definitely saw it. the question here is not that i love or don't love, it is a question of our survival. the neptunes were designed in principle, as far as i know, to fight and... both sea and land targets, well, apparently, it has already achieved the desired result in order to hit the territory of russia, knock, knock, knock, for this, and again, we should invest more in our military industry, for this even, relatively speaking, if there is not enough state money, although i believe that these manufacturers can issue bonds, for example, the president praised ukrainian armored vehicles, what they produce for, more than all... in europe for

a month, yes, well, let private or state companies issue there bonds, well , for 50 billion, for example, yes, under the guarantee of the government, state banks buy them back, the national bank provides refinancing, it can be done, it is possible, this is how we financed the construction of roads, for example in the 20th year, there was even a vote in parliament, or give the opportunity to manufacturers to export products abroad so that... they take money from world markets, sell it there at any price, and give it to the ukrainian army in accordance with our law, by the way, you know, in our country i will just say that the ukrainian government, by the way, or the ministry of defense, if i am not mistaken, well, in any case, it is the government, plans to publish a list of unscrupulous suppliers of western europe, well, in general , of the world, some, well, these are such, well, these are such , you know, let everyone know the heroes , heroes who

performs in bad faith. this, well, well, well, well, well, what, well, what will it give there, yes, well, this, these are such, you know, conversations, i believe that we need production, we have a minute and i very briefly, literally for 40 seconds, but i'm interested in your opinion, in general, plus or minus, as they say, and, yulia sevradenko, in the future in the position of prime minister, now she is a deputy prime minister, a young official, well, in promising in a good sense, 38 years old, maybe she will give something of quality to the government, do you believe that such a reshuffle is morestasiya yuriy severenko can really consider. as a replacement for shmegal, well, shmygal should be chased away a long time ago, i don’t even doubt it, it’s true, because the person basically doesn’t want to do anything, he pretends that nothing is happening in the country at all, well, i think there are promising candidates, chernyshov, for example , he showed himself well when he was a minister, he is praised by the mayors, at least yes, those who are currently engaged in oil and gas, we are also there, at least we see results, not this kobolivshchyna, you know

that we have something there, something is happening somewhere, he deals with specific matters, drills drills stars in the ground in order to extract gas, what should you do oil and gas, fyodorov, and sveridenko, sveridenko is quite sober now, she is conducting politics, primarily supporting industrial parks, she already understands that it is necessary to invest in industry, support production, and it promotes, connects, by the way, state banks, including and so on, well, i think that this is still more of a plus, i thank you very much for that, yes. thank you for your professional comments, taras zahorodnyi, a political technologist with us in touch, well, literally in a moment of news, to the big ether. good evening, we are from ukraine. therefore, the enemy continues to concentrate its efforts on the protection direction and throws its most experienced units into the assault.