our cyber specialists seriously not only identify, but also determine where and how to find and destroy terrorists from the wagner group. thirdly, with french and american colleagues, including the last successful operation, which was actually carried out militarily by the tuaregs, there was successful work in this operation and the participation of ukrainian special forces in it. and i think that this is not the last special operation, i think that every terrorist from the wagner group, especially those who now have the blood of ukrainian citizens on their hands, already understand that retribution will be, and they will be wanted in spite of everything in any part of the world, the world is really very small. mr. valentin, in an interview with the french publication limond, zelenskyy once again stated that russia should be present at...

the second peace summit, which is scheduled for november 24, what the ukrainian president says, i believe, like most countries, that russian representatives must be present at the second peace summit in november, otherwise we will not achieve useful results. i don't want them to interfere with our cooking common plan, if everyone wants them to sit at the table, then we can't be against it. a just peace for ukraine should allow us to take away our territorial integrity, but this does not mean that we have to do it exclusively with the help of weapons, it is desirable that the whole world stops putin, that borders are a precondition, but we understand what zelensky's position, but we also know what putin's position is. putin announced his ultimatum: four oblasts, the withdrawal of the ukrainian army from there, the neutral status of ukraine, well, everything else is on... on the list,

that is, as of today, how realistic is it that anyone from the russian government, obviously not putin, because he has an international criminal court warrant, lavrov for arrest, an arrest warrant, yes or someone, someone else, that is, how likely is it there is the fact that they will be at this peace summit at all, given their ultimate nature and demands, here at... most importantly, and we, we, ukraine must keep our position exclusively of our national interests, in our national security interests, this withdrawal of all troops, the aggressor from temporarily occupied territories. moreover, this position is in the national interest, and i am not exaggerating here, this position is in the national interest of the european union, all 27 countries of the european union, the united states, led. britain and all the countries

of the anti-putin coalition, which is more than 50 as of today. let's go further. the same position corresponds to the interests of china and india, who are not surprised, with whom we still need to work, no one doubts that. and as for the position of russia, well, you know, for us it is an aggressor country, we are suffering until now, and our people from aggression, so i would give this part of the question, after all, to the stronger ones now. such as the united states, china and others to talk with russia, but to talk with russia still from the positions of the national interests of ukraine, the eu, the usa and others, that is, and this is the main thing, the unconditional withdrawal of the aggressor's troops from the temporarily occupied territories, this is the only working formula , if you want to go back to the word formula, and what's more, this is the platform that can, if we're talking about november... this year, this platform can

to be voiced at the general assembly of the united nations, presented, and all 192 countries of the world work there. in my opinion, this is the only effective way, to keep one's position, together with allies to increase the number of positions of countries, economies, and so on, and to put pressure on russia, and with such positions, i am convinced that it is possible and necessary to then proceed to... peace summit, if it is november, then it can be in november. and so, mr. valentin, to the extent that international law allows or foresees that the participants in the negotiations conduct these negotiations with terrorists, if we consider that russia is a terrorist state. and i didn't talk about negotiations with terrorists or holders of international warrants. it seems to me that this is said by people who do not fully understand. indeed, in global and

international politics and mechanisms of diplomacy, our mechanism is the only possible one, it is together with allies in the anti-putin coalition. to demand and achieve the withdrawal of all troops and special services of the aggressor from the temporarily occupied territories is an approach, it is then a peace summit, not something else, and here you are right, if you act differently, then it will not be a peace summit, but a summit where terrorists will rule, you know how to mock and mock the un and the world order, sacrificing the territorial integrity of ukraine, this is on... our way with you and this is definitely a misunderstanding, if someone understands the possibility of going to the peace summit that way, i categorically, firstly against, secondly, i deny that it is possible in principle, the only correct way and the only possible one is to maintain the position of territorial integrity of ukraine together with partners. mr. valentin,

today in the evening address zelenskyi said that personnel changes are being prepared at the government level and... i quote what the president said: personnel decisions are being prepared at the government level, as well as additional decisions, so that already this fall more ukrainian children will be able to study in schools, not online, but normally , to have a normal school life, to the extent that it is possible now during the war, and well, a logical question arises, if in this address zelensky talked a lot about the education of children and in general about education, about what is being completed there. there will be objects, whether it is a question about the change of the minister of education, the minister, possibly the appointment of a new minister of infrastructure, and what personnel decisions might these be, or so far the father's application, it is not articulated in terms of positions, people, who will come, who

will leave? i will answer you as it is, there is no verkhovna rada, they have dispersed, the majority faction is not at work, so this is the number one question. in my opinion, there is nothing to delay, well, there are not only those ministers that you listed, half of the government is not there, and those who are left are there, the big question is whether they are effective, this is the first, second, in my opinion, during martial law there can be no breaks, trips, any kind of tour of deputies abroad for a long time, what are they doing there, if they have to work here, and third, then there will be no discussions about personnel changes and personnel changes, which can and should be discussed, people should know why their predecessors were expelled and what they did not succeed in or were involved in corruption, when and what they returned to the budget, and after that only the discussion of new candidacies, and most importantly the programs that they

and must decide and act during martial law. moreover, mr. serhiy, i am convinced that the government in principle, well, we are already waiting for a new one, that there will be a new martial law government, that is... a government that works every day, correctly, with the armed forces of ukraine, that every day holds meetings and resolves the issue, right, the general staff of ukraine, such a government is needed, if you ask the position of the batkivshchyna faction, we are convinced of this, but the most important thing is, i will repeat myself with your permission, there is nothing to do, let's go, run away, come back to work in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, and not only personnel decisions should be made, but also specific meaningful ones. action programs, increasing the budget for the armed forces of ukraine, for the salaries of our servicemen and many other things that need to be done here and now to protect ukraine. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation, it was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine. friends, we are working

live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, and throughout we conduct a survey of our entire broadcast, we are asking you about this today, do you expect? from f-16 fighters, changes in the situation at the front, yes, no, everything is quite simple, either yes or no, answer, or if you have a separate opinion, please leave it in the comments below this video. if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote for the numbers. if you expect the f-16 to change the situation at the front, 0800 211 381, no, 0.800 211 382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program. we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we will be in touch with mykhailo samusia, military expert, deputy director of the army research center for conversion and disarmament, director of the new geopolitics research network. mr. mykhailo, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. glad to see. well, first of all,

of course, the top topic of both world media and social networks is the f-16s, which seem to have already arrived in the ukrainian state. foreign minister. the foreign minister of lithuania gabrielus lasbergis actually confirmed that the former f-16 fighter jet arrived in ukraine. f-16 in ukraine period. another impossible thing turned out to be quite possible. he wrote on twitter. the times writes that ukraine received six f-16 fighters from the netherlands. according to the newspaper's sources , several more planes from denmark will soon arrive in ukraine, and zetelegraf writes that ukraine has already made its combat sorties on western f-16 fighter jets, using them for air defense purposes. absolutely everyone writes about these f-16s, and even. the video shows how they fly over ukraine, and there are even some photomontages of how these f16s

are somewhere in the sky above lviv, above the town hall, that is , it is a photo, well, the photo frog is obviously made or a photomontage, because it is over odesa, they say that it is over odesa, so many talks about f-16, well i guess at least you can tell. with obviousness, whether they answer, whether this information is true or not, well, i think that this information should not be discussed openly at all, because, first of all, the f-16 is a weapon that should harm the enemy, and therefore the enemy has the first to know whether it is true or not, and we we will discuss it later, in relation to this whole discussion, many people say... well, six planes, well, 10 planes, it won't change anything and so on, but we need 128, i would like

to emphasize that the f16 is really only a plane for for it to begin to influence, and i say here right away, the quantity is not of great importance here, the main thing is the quality of the system, the system consists first of all of the possibility of targeting, that is, we must have information either from the avax system of nato, or from our da. .. far-reaching reactionary definition that the swedes promised us, obviously they are not there yet, that is, we will probably receive information from nato on the avax system, these are long-range reactive detection aircraft that can provide us with information, why is this important, because vax provides information about targets at a depth of up to 400-500 km on russian territory, and this gives possibility when receiving information. flyover, for example, of russian tactical aviation, already give target indication to f-16 aircraft, the pilots of which

will not actually see these targets with their on-board radar, but they can already be used, using the targeting of avax aircraft, long-range detection, and thus use those missiles that may be transmitted to us air-to-air and thus affect the activity of russian aviation, that is, even several aircraft... f-16, if they will be installed in the avax system, will receive high-quality information, targeting, can already change the situation on the battlefield, and if we have 128 f-16 aircraft, which will not have the ability to integrate with e-e information, receiving from awaks, information that will give us an advantage in range, then these planes, even with the number of 128, they really will not be able to become a game changer, as they say, that is, here... the main thing is systemicness, the main thing is the integration of these planes into the system in which they are supposed

to work, that is, complete full integration into information field of nato, and after that these planes will really become a very, very formidable sword that will really cut off the wings of the tactical aviation of the russian federation, this is what we need right now on the front, because the russians use cabs, and... what and enable to a large extent advance to the russians in donbas now, that is , the mass use of cabs must be stopped, this can be done by the f-16, but on the condition that we have information, targeting, after all, not just from the on-board radars of these planes, after all, with the use of more powerful tools. as for air defense, these planes can really help us fight cruise missiles, that is, the same missiles that are launched from strategic bombers, the same hasto1, other modifications, they

can really effectively shoot down the f-16 and in this way, to create another echelon of air defense of ukraine, that is, we have patriot, nasams and growing, there are soviet systems, frankysam systems and there will be more f-16s that will be able to more adaptively approach the shooting down of missiles, because we know that the russians constantly they change routes, trajectories on... they try to confuse our air defense, because no matter how mobile the complex is, it is actually stationary, but the f-16s can adaptively destroy these missiles regardless. on any trajectory of their application, that's why i i think it's going to be quite a significant contribution to capability, so i would look at the f-16s not as aircraft, but as combat capabilities, so if they become combat capabilities backed up by system capabilities, then that's going to be an impact

on the battlefield, if it will just be planes that were handed over to us without weapons, without integration into the information field. for nato, then the number here will not mean anything at all, because they will not affect the effectiveness of the use of these aircraft. but the fact that ukraine will receive or has received f-16 is the same it has a sufficiently large psychological effect for the russians, because i watched their messages and videos, what they say in their programs from to the f16, they are all in such a mild hysterics because of this, because they say that the red lines have already been crossed, the ukrainians, and the most important thing for ukraine is that the f-16 is the first step towards the rearmament of the ukrainian air force, because the f planes -16, after the f-16 aircraft

will obviously be the f-18 and f-35, so this is just the beginning, just like it was. or with tanks and armored personnel carriers that we received from our western partners, or does the arrival of these f-16s mean the beginning of a new aviation era in ukraine? well, of course, because this is really the first western aircraft of this level in the air force, it is really the beginning of rearmament, the beginning of a new era, really, i would not say here about the line that will be the next, because we have more, negotiations were held on gripens, negotiations were held on french aircraft of various modifications, especially considering the fact that as unmanned aviation develops, that is, it is difficult to say which aviation platforms will be more effective 20 years from now, whether it's going to be a traditional aircraft or whether it's still going to be an unmanned platform, i would say right now that the f-16 is really the first

step to a new kind of air force, and that's really, really important. we have really been talking about this for 20 years, that precisely at the turn of 20-25 we have to completely switch to western aircraft, in principle it turned out that way, but under other circumstances, as for the psychological factor, i think that the psychological factor will be then , when we shoot down the first ten su-34 f16, this will be a psychological effect, when it is about there will be a psychological effect when we shot down 2 a50s. the planes were russian, which were engaged in precisely this, they provided information, targeting of tactical aviation, of the russian air force, and this then meant that the russians were a head above us, shot down the a50s, and the psychological effect was very, very powerful, therefore that the russians now work mainly

with the information that is on the on-board radars of the planes themselves, this allows them to dominate the air for the time being, because we have... our planes, old soviet planes, they cannot compete just by the range of the radar, by the effectiveness of the onboard radars, which are actually on our mi-29 or su-27, especially the su-25, there is no question at all, but the point is that if our f-16s will now have more illumination from avacs, or finally swedish long-range aircraft will come to us, this will mean that we will now be ... head higher, and just the psychological effect will be after we shoot down a few, well up to a dozen, i will say so , su34x, after which the use of su-34x will simply stop, because they have su-34x only a hundred remained, but this is for the whole of huge russia, this is taking into account the threats of nato, china and so on, and that is, they

cannot take risks in this way, because they cannot now produce tsu-34 several dozen per year, they... top ten are drawn, and then, i think, the prospect is that they will not be able to produce these aircraft at all without the help of china, for example, because actually the sanctions are in effect precisely in high-tech areas, so they will protect their aircraft, and that means that the top ten the sutras of the fourth will be defeated and after that the kabi will not will actually be used, because it will be an extremely big risk for the russian air force, mr. mykhailo, actually i am talking about... the weapons potential of russia, ukraine and our western partners, i wanted to ask you, because i read that the deputy chairman of the commission for the strategy of the national defense eric eidelman of the united states characterizes the potential of our western partners and russia. and he says that america and its

allies produce fewer weapons than russia, china, iran and north korea combined. i will quote mr. eidelman. our defense and industrial the base is in very poor condition. the european defense-industrial base is in an even worse state. we need ours. base, allies in the pacific region: australia, japan, south korea, taiwan, their base and our industrial base , they all need to step up because what russia, china, iran and north korea are doing is beyond what they are capable of we ourselves, as this evaluation of these potentials of countries, the conditional axis of evil and countries that exist in democracy. uh, what does that mean? this means that the axis of evil at this stage is stronger than the axis democratic axis. let's put it this way, the axis of evil

mobilized earlier, that is, the axis of evil, well, especially russia, for example, russia was preparing for war for at least 10 years, that is, let's remember, after the war against georgia, the aggression against georgia in 2008, when it turned out that the russian ... the army is in a terrible, broken state, they began a reform, this reform began in 2010, a trillion dollars were allocated, back in 2010, they began to prepare for war, they attacked ukraine in the 14th year, and after the tempo did not spare it, after that they had a fiasco in february of '22, because it turned out that they had miscalculated their strength, but unfortunately, our european partners, our... american partners, since '14, did not start preparing for war, they believed that we can continue the so-called de-escalation, appeasement

of the aggressor, let's remember, let's be honest, they tried to appease the aggressor, they said all the time, we can't demonstrate to russia that we are also preparing for war, so let's not increase our defense budgets, let's remember how, for example, trump quarreled with merkel and it was... by the way, in the 16th year, when he literally said such words that you give russia more money for gas than you invest in your own defense, and this is unacceptable, this cannot be so further, because at that time germany spent less than 1% of gdp on defense, and now we see what this led to, in fact, the german army was not ready in the 22nd year for any hostilities or for any confrontation with russia, then... that is, russia has been preparing for war since the 10th year, now that it has collapsed, in fact, from the point of view of their military defense system, their military defense system does not cope, they did, with the help

of china, which acted as a kind of economic base for this whole process, actually created a military workshop for themselves from north korea, a kind of, if we speak by analogy, this is if during the second world war russia created such a ural for itself. like the urals for the soviet union, this is now their north korea, they are investing a lot of money there, north korea is very, very happy about this, because for the first time in history the kimchan regime received and his ancestors there received huge investments, now the economy of north korea is growing, because russia invests huge funds, technologies and so on, all this threatens not only ukraine now, it really threatens the asian-tech region, precisely those allies of the united states. states, these are japan, taiwan, south korea, directly, which are beginning to understand, russia is now raising north korea, and war, for example, on

the korean peninsula is already a reality, because kimchin with nuclear weapons is now already looks better than south korea, which was really quite mobilized from the point of view of military equipment, but it also now turned out to be not so ready to confront all of russia and north korea. iran and behind them there is china in the shadows, which says that it is a peacemaker, but in fact until now it has active economic ties with all these countries, so the problem for the west is huge, they are just now starting to wake up, they are actually potentially much stronger than this so-called axis of evil, it is impossible compare the gdp of western countries with the combined gdp of russia, china, and north korea. and iran. these are much more powerful countries. the united states spends under 900 billion dollars a year on defense. that is, these funds seem to be insufficient

for production and. equipment and support of our allies and so on, but we are in a state of geopolitical turbulence, we know that the elections of the united states are approaching, and there, in fact, it is not yet clear to me who is still better for ukraine, or trump, who suggests rather drastic changes in geopolitics, well, for example, to dramatically flood the market, the world oil market, with american oil and lower oil prices, it is very profitable for us, because the price of $10 means... depriving russia of its main source of monetary resources, financing its defense industry, financing its mercenaries, soldiers, which they already pay 25 thousand dollars each for a bonus, signing a contract and so on, that is, or kamala harris, who seems to be quite beautiful and positive for ukraine, but i do not see her position in relation to ukraine, whether this will be a continuation of this policy of de-escalation,

will it still be possible to be more... a decisive leadership position, it is important for ukraine to understand this now and be ready for any variant of the development of events, and the west, i hope that europe will become more autonomous, and maybe even nato will have actually two divisions have been created, one division will deal with asia and north america under the leadership of the united states, and europe, together with ukraine, will deal more with eurasia, i don't see anything wrong with it if europe also begins to... live a little like a state of war , because the war is approaching europe, this must be understood , including in european capitals. thank you, mr. mykhailo, for the conversation, it was mykhailo samus, a military expert. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those of you who are watching us live on youtube right now, please take our poll and today we're asking you if you expect the f-16 fighter jets to change the... situation

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it's always interesting there. i recommend as a person who watches roman tsimbalyuk. so, roman, let's start with such a big spy exchange that putin conducted today with the civilized world, because he exchanged his killers, spies for political prisoners, for journalists, for public activists, 26 prisoners from several sides, which actually. exchanged these prisoners, and russia , in the style of the soviet union, exchanged luis karvalan for vladimir bukovsky, well , it sounded a little different there, for a hooligan , yes, this is putin's exchange fund, it, as i said, consists of decent people and people who are engaged in political activities in russia, or they are foreign

journalists or... activists, what can you say about this big exchange, does it mean that the western world is starting some kind of dialogue with russia, because russia is such a country that can endlessly take hostages, journalists, public figures, politicians and then endlessly exchange them for its killers, spies, who are caught all over the world? well... first of all , it is much more pleasant to watch this detective story from kyiv than to take part in it personally, well, that's me, you introduced me as a former lascor in moscow, i remembered that there were interesting moments, and when you came back home alive and well, even in wartime, you understand that home is better than home, yes, but as for...