putin and her with him, they voiced and, so to speak, made changes to the russian constitution for a reason, as well as with non-aligned status or nato membership, well, we understand the position of moscow, so here is the whole fable about the indivisibility of security and so on on the continent, but the story about the territories that must be returned, how they could sell them, well, or they could not, and they will simply stand on that, is really the constitution of the russian federation, which included... included these new subjects in its composition includes the laws that will follow from it, that it is impossible to change the territorial integrity of russia, there is a criminal article, even for calling, i defended ulmi umerov in crimea under this article, in general, in no way can we talk about the rejection of the territory of the russian federation, if they included them in their constitution, captured and included them, yes yes, they have already occupied and included, on the other hand, this

russian is chewed paper in the toilet. no one will pay attention to the constitution, it's just that, apart from the constitution, putin's plans are even more ambitious. he wants all of ukraine, not just four regions. and here he leaves it for himself maneuver. i assume that he can move somewhere, say that we keep the occupied territories for ourselves, this is a negotiating position, but we are ready to bargain for the unoccupied part. what will they offer us? and what does he offer? i wonder what he offers in return for all this? ah... in essence, the only suggestion is that they will not attack kyiv, try to attack kyiv, especially after receiving these planes by ukraine, according to bloomberg, yesterday maybe 20 planes of the first batch, no one knows how many, not to mention the rest . you first capture that kyiv, of course, if the troops were stationed near kyiv, there would be other negotiations, but that is not the case. how to determine this military balance that favors one side or the other? it is such that when the war continues, ukraine... will definitely lose,

or on the contrary, will ukraine resist? moscow will definitely lack the strength to hold the occupied territories, or will it be able to accumulate resources to reach the regional centers, kharkiv, odesa and others. no one knows the answers, there is a military balance, and in terms of military balance, there must be conditions mutually acceptable, not imposed by one side, which moscow is trying to do, and also uses other methods to push its position, because they will achieve this by military means. it cannot, if they could achieve it, they would have already achieved it and would be standing in kyiv, but it is impossible to achieve it, so there is a big game going on here, who will increase the number of allies of their position, who will exhaust their capabilities faster, etc., in particular the information game, all these ipso testing are also for to undermine the unity, monolithicity, self-confidence not only of ukraine, but also of the west, voices are heard, but now it is a favorable position, no need to arrange negotiations. the finnish president

declares this, others also, because of course, the war is draining the resources of europe, in particular, especially since everyone is in the exhausting expectation of the results of the elections in america, europe is afraid of the arrival of trump, this is what the main powers, france, germany and others are afraid of, because they have a negative experience of interacting with trump during his presidency from 2016 to 2020. in this situation, there is no other recipe, no other way, except to do what you do. if ukraine now retreats and agrees to some of putin's conditions, then it will be very difficult to play back, he will seize on it and say: you yourself agreed, you yourself are ready to sacrifice something, accordingly, this is a trap, and the kremlin wants to drive ukraine into this trap . the territorial issue is not as important for the kremlin as the issue of ukraine's sovereignty, which it implies. the possibility of non-aligned status

in nato and other unions such as the european and others the main question is what ukraine will be like, how the 80% of the territory controlled by official kyiv will emerge from this war, or will they emerge with a neutral status that can be undermined by another new war, because no one covers you outside of nato. the network of agreements on guarantees that kyiv is currently signing for the post-war period may not work, but membership in nato will. we have already seen this. the baltic countries are an example of the fact that this status works, and this is the most fundamental issue, and it has not been resolved. thank you so much mark for this one an extremely important conversation on the air of the espresso tv channel. take care, god help you, i want to remind our tv viewers that mark feigin, a figure of the russian opposition, not emigration, a former deputy of the state duma, who received, according to the decision of the pseudo-court of first instance, 13 years was working for them. imprisonment for anti-kremlin

agitation. thanks mark. thank you. well, the time of our program is over, stay with the spresso tv channel. my colleagues will keep you informed. about all the most important events of this day, take care of yourself and your loved ones, to meetings on the air, hello everyone, my name is andrii zholub, this is a project without armor on fm halychyna, and today we have the next guest, today we have an important topic, today we will talk... not about the theater of military operations, but we will talk about what is already happening with the veterans, with us here, in a state of relative safety, but first, as always, introduce yourself , please, welcome everyone, my name is volodymyr rutkovskyi, my call sign

is buddha, i, who stands today day is an active serviceman of the 117th separate unit mechanized brigade, during performing combat tasks, he was in the position of company commander, but he directly took part in the so-called counteroffensive in the zaporozhye direction, and today, here, andriy and i simply laid out all the cards on the table. you know, in fact, to talk about how everything happened there, we already talked about it with many people, for many of the civilians it was also an incomprehensible question, how to communicate with veterans and so on, but the whole paradox is that... even the veterans themselves sometimes do not know how to communicate with veterans, let's go from the other side altogether, what we will talk about with you today is about mutual respect, about the formation of this brotherhood of veterans, which is only being born now in the rear, what catches your eye the most, what hurts you the most in

the attitude of a veteran to veteran, we actually have a very big problem, that remnant of the scoop, which is currently changing, we, everyone who has and is involved in the armed forces of ukraine, he sees that it is slowly changing, but not with such speed, as i would really like, that's it there is absolutely no process of education directly with the serviceman in the middle, in the structure of respect, which i mean, when i was... a platoon commander and i had a company commander, one day i approached him and said: friend commander, he is so says: what is this? i say, what's the matter? he says: well, there is a command there, mr. command, there is

something else, somehow, mr. senior lieutenant is there conditionally and so on, and mr. captain, mr. commander, well, he voiced some wording there, because he has already been there for a certain period. . time is and was before i got to unit, here i am, wait there, my friend, the command, this, he says, so we are not a von, i say okay, that’s it, but these were my first touches in general to understanding the officers who are in our armed forces, and fortunately there are fewer of them, because more intelligent, classy, ​​real...honest, decent guys, in the good sense of the word, reach positions, and then, through their own example , show others how to properly communicate with subordinates , so-called, although, well, if you are a real commander, you don't have one subordinates, you have brothers, like-minded people and those

who listen to you, so that you all return to your families from the war together in the future, that's all, and in the process i... realized that eh this is a big problem, and at that time i was very closely involved in education, its personnel, so that in the future, when we need to communicate, so that we do not have a commander somewhere above, a soldier somewhere below, we are all equal, but already, for example, when i got to rehabilitation in lviv and lviv na... really is one of the most patriotic cities of our country, for me it is the heart of our country, so for statistics , there are about 10 servicemen there during the year i was in rehabilitation in lviv,

about 10 servicemen, there on the market square with me hello, you're just a kid, and that's like... as a rule, the guys are bearded, covered in tattoos, they're the warriors who have a core, to nod or put their hand on their heart or some other gesture shows respect to... themselves, and i in response to them, i broadcast it back, that's how it is works in reality, there is an exchange of energies, and well , it does not apply to military servicemen or veteran veterans, it applies to the whole society in general, we must be ready for that, so and so when i have such statistics, when i know cases, when we are there, for example, with the boys, we are standing in the cinema, and there are 15 of us there , and that's all. with amputations and sitting er, a cake is

a civilian, if that’s how he can be labeled er and the guys don’t even suggest whether it’s possible to give way to someone, you have to, and you ask him a question, and why is this happening, he starts to argue with you. well, don't be shy to write comments, because as you understand, we have a lot to discuss, volodya raised very important topics today, he and i ... discussed it, as the americans say, on an equal system, join if you veteran, if you are a military serviceman, if you are a civilian, give us your point of view, we want to hear you, and you understand that there is such a general national problem, and now you and i are actually in the process of solving it, because we have repeatedly on these topics had communication, and now we are working. we say, in fact, everything begins and ends with one word, this word is respect, and if a person

was raised from childhood, raised correctly, then respect is embedded in him as a cultural code, like dna, and in the process he will broadcast that respect throughout his life, it doesn't matter whether a person has legs, whether a person doesn't have legs, whether it's an older person, whether it's... a child, she will have respect transmitted, well , because it's her dna, and on the contrary, there are people who, in fact, have big positions, great fortunes, and you look at them, grandmother there, coming out of the tram, who is 60-70 years old, she will stop, meet your eyes, and you will see so much love and respect in those eyes. "when she sees that you don't have a leg and you see how much it hurts her, well

, it doesn't hurt you as much as her, but when she shows it and broadcasts it, well, it affects you inside, and vice versa, when you are there the first persons of the district, region communicate there, and i was in germany, as well as at the forum for the restoration of ukraine, the so-called where..." there was zelensky and all the top leaders of our country, within an hour and a half of my stay at the huge locations where they were built, each region had its own representative offices, projects and so on, because all of them are about attracting investments for the development of our country in the future, and in an hour and a half with me, we are already sitting in the bus with my friend and elena, we are already starting to go, i say len... i walked and just looked people in the eyes, met them with eyes, and i

wanted to get statistics on how many people represent our country abroad, say hello to a person who has an amputation, well and you can definitely see from me that i, well, i was dressed like that, let's tell some military stories, listen, tell me please, and this attitude is like this, it's about fear, it's about the lack of... it's about not understanding how behave, i think it's really about being driven, there is, well, you see everything, you read it all as internal, and you see everything through the eyes, the eyes are the mirror of the soul, you, you will never deceive anyone, when you see a person, that she broadcasts through her eyes, and in some people i see depression. what i mean, for example, now i'm driving a car, and there is

crosswalk, one woman is walking on the crosswalk, and the other woman is walking 5 m before the crosswalk, and the one who is walking on the crosswalk, she is standing and crouching to meet my eyes, because she understands that if she is not with me will meet, then most likely she can and she can meet with the car first of all. with my eyes, and this one who is passing by the crossing, she is going on a machine gun, well, i understand that this is what i am talking about, that people are driven, she is in her thoughts, she is now crossing the road, she is not... here, she's somewhere else in her mind or in some problem, and for example, i have such an opportunity, god gave me such an opportunity to understand that people are driven, and it is possible to pause and not make a remark somewhere, or on the contrary to make a remark, to say that you should land, because well, tomorrow it will be possible to drive

into a bar, for example, here, but in most of the cases behind the wheel... there may also be a driven person who is driving in his problems, and will not see this driven person who was crossing and did not meet his eyes, and what will happen, the news in the tabloids, the next one, i think so in fact, in general, in most of their cases, people are really oppressed, i know how many people are today, well, in the literal sense of the word. on the verge of survival, financial survival, everyone has been driven into money by our politicians over the years, and many people live there on credit cards today, i understand that people are running around looking for where and how to earn money so that their children yes, yes, and and if , for example, we take a person who is driven

and we take a veteran, for example, who is walking on the street, who does not have a leg, and this... a veteran somewhere there makes eye contact with this person, most likely, maybe this person does not even see that he does not have a leg, because at most she met her eyes and and and moved somewhere further , and the veteran is already winding himself up, thinking: they don’t greet me, you have this personally, eh and i used to analyze people a lot when i met this, in the third week of rehabilitation i felt like eh, i won’t say that it’s better . than before the injury, but certainly not worse, because it is not a secret, not for anyone, that during the service, well, you understand that, like no one else, you take care of your health, even when you are not on combat duty, nutrition, lack of sleep, confusion, and so on, and so on, so on, nerves, nerves, especially when you are the commander, you are in charge, here i am there

are 113 people on staff, i had 51 people, that is, you are a company member, i am a company member, i absolutely understand what this is about. 113 people, most of whom are average citizens of our country, who were walking down the street, yes, and unfortunately, most of them do not have an understanding, this is how we started, how there is no understanding of how to treat other veterans or servicemen, so they have no understanding of what needs to be done in order to return to their families, and you, as a commander , should not think about that. how to fight, about how you should do everything so that according to the documents it goes smoothly, because to this day we have a paper army, verification, and, and, and, but you still have to be a very dense and very strong psychologist in order to to explain to a person that he has two

ways, either to return to that three, or to return to that, er,... in zinc, let's say this, and everyone has to make a decision for himself, everyone has to take responsibility and understand what they want, you too, probably had to speak up when you were told, mr. commander, you can talk to you this moment, a thousand times, a thousand times, and i conveyed one simple moral to them , i am addressing you, ivan, as you prefer, ivan, is the oracle your call sign? it’s more convenient for me, let’s give an oracle, and okay, then you just turn to me as a buddha, and each of these prefixes is a remnant of that little owl that drags on, which only takes away from us, the task of conscious people,

who enter the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine, to eliminate all the elements that are and... at least minimal, every little barrier between an officer and the lowest rank in the armed forces, it is a problem, a big problem in the long run, and that who understands this, he immediately eliminates it, well, i was engaged in this from morning to night, in fact, because you yourself understand that the commander is a father, mother, brother, sister, you, you, you, you have to be for them, everything and even more, you even have to be more than their parents, because mom and dad are not strong depends on whether you will be alive tomorrow or not, absolutely, and mom and dad don't tell you. so we go to the position at three o'clock in the morning and so on, and mom and dad won't come and check if you have fire gas on the rps, oh how do you have a fire extinguisher, my god, a gas

mask, yes a gas mask, oh, how did i know that you want to say about tess, right, and what else is there? listen, please tell me, brother, what about you, you are a person with an amputation, as you told me, you have one of the simplest amputations that can be. how do you notice the attitude towards you, how do you look at the protest on the streets, has something changed compared to before, is it fear anymore, or is it already becoming an element in some way to express your respect for the rank? everything, everything begins and ends with a person, and if for example, as it was in the beginning, in battle. for the most part, in the total majority, it is like this to this day, why is it happening, i for myself, well, i found such an answer that we are

people, such creatures who forget everything very quickly, so you did someone a favor today, you the person thanked, somewhere possible even showed such openness in something and so on, the next day passes and you look at a person, mind. what happened yesterday, yesterday everything was cool, but today is a completely different relationship, we are such people, and very often, when i talked with my boyfriends, everyone was offended by me, because i gave her medicine for at least one and a half hours a day, at least, and they took offense at me, as did the doctors who said, well , here it is, well, it's easy to understand one. if they cannot remember this in simple classroom conditions, then what will it be in a shock class condition, well, they just when there is shock, when

there is panic, when there is adrenaline, they will forget everything, i will tell you as a military doctor that you have no idea how many lives you have saved with that boringness, but i understand it, and i i just know for myself that if i haven't been with the guys for a week, after a week i don't remember any moments myself, i think, okay, but a person who a month ago received information, for example, about a person, and how one should behave, and how it is better not to behave in relation to a person who has an amputation, for example, in a month's time, what will he remember, that's it, that's my answer to the question, why, because we live in such a time where there is chaos, total chaos in terms of information. from morning till night they cram a lot of information into themselves, well, because it seems to me that it is easier for them when they are loaded, loaded, so as not to think about some situations, then i

will load myself with everything in a row, and it is somehow easier that way, and so when people are loaded with everything in a row and do not filter quality content and not quality content, but low-quality content on it is a great pity that today there is more than quality, so... i understand that this is our mission from morning to night from all platforms, to report, to remind, that is to say , to hit one and the same point and understand that if even a person heard today, then most likely she can forget it tomorrow, well, that's the way the human brain works. volodya, look, and at the end of our program, i ask almost every guest, but not almost, i ask every guest to summarize our conversation. i will ask you simply from myself a short monologue, motivation, you and i are now practically turning the land upside down, that is, we are creating this veteran society, which

, in fact, we have never had an effective and high-quality one, tell us what we, both veterans and civilians, should do in order to have then some kind of understanding and unity so that we hold hands and not fight each other, okay, returning to all active military personnel, and military personnel who have already been discharged from the ranks of the armed forces, and are currently veterans and will be veterans all life, in fact, while they will be alive, eh, you have to understand one simple moral, that no one will think and feel about you the way you think about yourself, this is the first and key thought, the next, in order to make it easier for you to convey to society some... . your position, your ideas, your visions, you need to unite with like-minded people, unfortunately we have inactive ones and vice versa. thank god for proactive

people who have a war veteran's certificate, and our task is to make as many proactive people as possible communicate together and together change and report to each other societies that were not at war, what is right and what is wrong, those who have amputations, those who have some problems are healthy. during rehabilitation and after it, you must understand one simple moral for yourself, that if you do not become real rehabilitators for yourself, if you do not take care of your health yourself, because what they will give you in six months in the rehabilitation center , it was given to you and a new veteran drove in, and it works like that, and

you have to deal with the rehabilitation of your health. throughout life, because japanese wisdom says an elementary thing that your health does not belong to you, it belongs to your children, because if something happens to you, you will lie down, then who will look after you, the children, and the children will not build their own life, their own future, they will to worry about their money, which they will go to earn on you, so you have no moral right to lose your health, what you have left after you... suffered and experienced what you experienced, you have to appreciate it, and to be responsible for it, i have a big request for you to understand, no one will not explain or tell people who were not in the war how to do it except for you, because if you, for example, throw...

a bull on the street, past a garbage can, or not say hello to other veterans, then what do we expect? from other people who were not in the war and do not understand what people went through, this is very important, you must also bear responsibility for this, you must understand what mission lies on you today, because those who were on... for example, on the field of mars, those who are covered with ants from head to toe and from head to toe like this and you must understand that those who are lying there, the best girls and boys, they do not have such an opportunity, god did not give them such an opportunity to get up, roll up their sleeves and say, okay, it didn't work out the first time, it will work out the second time, it didn't work out from the second, it will come out of the third, and you are a movement.

and change this country for the better, god gave you the opportunity to change this country for the better, he left you alive, it doesn’t matter if he took your arm, leg or many other wounds, which are, for example, of the closed type and you don’t look at a person, you think , but she is alive, healthy, and there there is such chaos inside that it might be better to cut off an arm or a leg, what can be done, i'm talking about this and that, that's why you don't... have any moral right not to be ambassadors of those best girls and boys, who have already left this life to great regret, and they should have done this and they would have done that, but they do not have this opportunity , and ambassadors are those who are currently in the hottest spots of our country, and everyone who is here today wounded, he understands how hard work is, and that's for sure

i can say with confidence that... there is the hardest work on this planet, especially in this war, because no army has ever fought such a war, such dynamics of war, and such a hybrid war, which we are now carrying out world, here i am taking this opportunity to thank everyone who is defending our country today, there, while we are here, and believe me, i will say in the name of the veterans that we are doing, have done and will do everything possible to so that when the day comes that you can return to your families, to a calm and peaceful life, although we will never have such a life, you understand what i mean, then we will prepare the most correct platform.