on the line, mr. mustafa, i congratulate you. good day. events of the day in two hours. vasyl zima's big broadcast. a project for smart and caring people. espresso in the evening. mark fegin, a member of the russian opposition to emigration, a well-known video blogger, and ex-detat of the state duma, will be working on the air of the tv channel. glory to ukraine. mark, nice to see you. glory to the heroes, i am happy to welcome all the viewers. congratulations anton. attempt on ilya ponomarya. and so we understand that the enemy used shakhet this time, well, accordingly, this immediately raises many questions, and perhaps hints at many answers, when we talk about the so-called strange arrivals, of course, this can apply not only to the current situation, in the near future, but in any case, the kremlin has taken a note of water and does not say anything about it. as for the assassination attempt on ilya penomerov, it was... it was quite

predictable that, among the people whom the kremlin would like to destroy, and among russian emigrants, oppositionists, ilya ponomarov occupies an honorable place, and he is not the only one, there are several others, and there are operational information provided by services that support an active project are looking for ways to destroy some effective part of russian oppositionists abroad, regarding a certain number of people, this is known, it is not a secret, especially since drones have already flown into the house of ilya ponomarov in the kyiv region, it is difficult for me... to say something about the technical side , it is possible that kyiv region is more difficult to cover with air defense means, kyiv itself is like that, and to prevent strikes on kyiv region, the means may not be enough, and the danger is higher there, but ponomarov’s address was not a secret, drones, shahedis or edge-2, as they are called there, so this is not news, there is something else: he came, as far as i understand, to kyiv, spent the night at home, they could have informed some agency that he was in the house, i know that he is in... . was in america, and

a drone is sent when they want to kill a specific person, not destroy a building. so, they get some information quickly from some agency, maybe in kyiv. ilya ponomaryev is writing to me just now, so i think that, most likely, such attempts will continue in the future, where possible, at a distance, with the help of drones, and somewhere there will be attempts murders of some people will be sent. what is important here, it would seem, why do you want to kill him, what is his danger or the same ones? this is a completely wrong assessment, they do not assess from the point of view of concrete dangers arising from a political leader, they need to demonstrate to everyone that this is not what you will do, support ukraine, promote russian connections, oppose putin as his enemies, spread information about what moscow produces in ukraine and not only, it needs to be demonstrated, this is the main goal, no there was no specific danger from an individual, as well as from navalny,

there was no danger, especially when he was in prison, but he had to be killed, there it was connected with the exchange, there it was still necessary to demonstrate to everyone that will be with you if you join any activity at any level against the moscow regime, well, ukraine is an enemy, they are simply killing ukraine, and the russian opposition are the same enemies and the same targets, very important conclusions should be drawn from this to do, therefore, the protection of ukraine, like me i talk a lot among my colleagues. this is the redoubt before your death. it is necessary to defend ukraine, in addition to your ideological positions against the war against putin, also because you will be next. this is very important to understand. therefore, for the russian opposition, for all those who are against putin, the possibility of protecting the country is an opportunity to postpone one's own death. failure to understand this leads to very sad attempts by some of the russian opposition to play the game imposed by the kremlin that... it is possible

to support russian military resistance to sides of ukraine, because this is vlasivshchyna, treason to the motherland. it's a very misleading, very criminal reference, and people who pick up on it will be recruited sooner or later, that's very important to understand. the parameters of the list, mark and who specifically do you think wanted to demonstrate something with this attempt, yes, because strange murders are happening in ukraine, the strange murder of iryna farion, so no one took responsibility... took responsibility, there is a suspect, but the question motives are the key story, yes, and when certain assassinations or political attempts happen, someone is responsible to take this responsibility, or the second option, perhaps, indeed, if it is the work of the kremlin, then they can simply prepare some broader scenario, that is, cascading deaths and , accordingly, then an attempt to reformat the same, i don’t know, public discourse, but... or

simply correcting it in this way, they have always been engaged in this, correcting the consequences of the physical removal of some public elements that interfere and create problems. for discourse, yes, it is part of this program, this work, and pso and the rest. many who does not understand the connection of these things. for example, the discourse that opposes the negotiation process as such in ukraine, because they have their own considerations. this is a right-wing discourse mostly, but not only. it consists in the fact that one cannot stop at the binding conditions of the agreements, at the ultimatums that moscow puts forward. it is now necessary to create the most comfortable situation so that this does not happen in ukraine, he determines. thesis in public opinion, that is, if you, for example, put a lot of pressure on the radicals, let's tentatively call them that, from the moscow, then this public opinion will be able to be swayed in the right direction. moscow needs negotiations, a ceasefire, a truce, etc., because there are conditions, both external and internal. internally, we do not

fully understand, perhaps moscow's reserves for the continuation of the war are running out, and it is increasingly difficult to continue fighting, for many reasons, and the number of people who want to go to war has decreased. industry, defense, it is not known how it works, all this is a secret, but what nabibulina, the head of the central bank, declares, already gives grounds to say that there is a lack of money for the war, there is external factors, they consist in the fact that moscow cannot remain under the sanctions and pressure that is building up for too long. in addition, moscow, submitting to these factors, seeks quick negotiations, who is against negotiations in ukraine, it is important, in ukraine it is the right, it is nationally oriented forces, that is, a majority is needed. some effect, so that the influence of these forces, their radical position has less influence on public opinion. i also believe that negotiations now on the terms put forward by moscow are absolutely unacceptable for ukraine, because they will not end the war, at best they will postpone it, at worst they will prolong it. that's all in my opinion, because if

we agree to moscow's terms, we can talk about this in more detail, then it means not just a concession, but programming and seducing the aggressor to take new actions to occupy the territory. although i don't think that she was too influential, she probably had detractors inside ukraine as well, she cursed with the army, especially with the russian-speaking part, they should shut up, she's not the only one like that, that's right, but how big can this potential be blacklist, well, i think mark, that... you are also in it, taking into account the sentence or the accusation drawn there, so to speak , how many years are there seven or eight years for you or 13 for me, they gave 11, yes, 11 years for the lawyer feigin, even me already i was convicted in the first instance, it's been a few weeks already, they still don't

issue the motivational part of the sentence to my lawyer, it will be very interesting to read it, there are three episodes, it seems like three interviews, where i said that there was genocide in buchi. the russian military killed ukrainians, and i was also responsible for that condemned yes, i am on this list, but i am protected by the french police, and my safety is ensured in this way. i don't know if a drone can fly to france, i don't know, but from a security point of view, yes, i am on this list, but there are many people on it, i am not the only one. it would be too presumptuous to assume that they chose me as their only target. again, i repeat, they do not evaluate efficiency by the degree of significance, how much influence a person has... on the russian audience or not, although i have a large channel, i am still in russia have known for many years, no, it is still necessary a demonstration, even an attack on ponomarov's house is also a demonstration for the rest, get scared, kneel down and do not interfere, let us do what we want, and generally

disappear from the political field, yes, this blacklist contains people in ukraine, it is difficult to do this in ukraine, it is possible only remotely, at the level of drones, although contract killings are also possible. there are specifics here, this is a question for the ukrainian special services, how they work with this, they probably have secrets about this. if it's really all like that, then that means it means that there is a revival, that is , the activation of such things indicates some other parallel processes, and you very correctly said that the key story is the kremlin's interest in getting what it wants, yes, in particular, in a diplomatic way, but if we talk about the parameters, the first parameters are yes, the kremlin immediately announced the story that it does not want and will not communicate with our government, which it considers illegitimate, well whose cow mooed, so to speak, yes, it is clearly not the kremlin, but this is one point , the second moment, the situation in in the states, we understand, it will be hot in the states, and the kremlin hoped that trump would take

power from biden, and after november, accordingly, the kremlin's one-way scenario can work, that is, with ultimate imposition. to ukraine, what they said, so to speak, they will want in the kremlin and agree on this matter, maybe with the trump administration, well, i am grossly oversimplifying, but the situation is getting complicated for the kremlin and... so to speak, the autumn scenario can be postponed for a certain time the so-called long drawer, and therefore they count on what, for spring, that is energy scenario, shaheds, missiles and a set of measures, even after there will be, as they say, immeasurable suffering of the ukrainian people, as my american friends formulate, but then the kremlin would like, so to speak, to impose, i i don't know if there is istanbul-3 or abu dhabi-5. is there any other site, how do you see it? i believe

that in the fall we will not see direct negotiations or any direct actions that will contribute to this. by direct action, i mean action by the united states, the first and most important factor: there is no certainty who will lead the country, it will be the same democrats, their line or trump, it is quite obvious that it is possible, even diametrically opposed positions, because the uncertainty... the uncertainty of the settlement plan, what the parties will agree to: i mean the democrats or trump? kamala harris, if she becomes a candidate and wins the election, will of course continue the biden line. this is a moderate line, subverting ukraine's negotiations, but at the same time with a firm position of supporting ukraine, providing it with military and financial aid, etc. by not doing it condition: help in exchange for participation in negotiations. trump has it, i mean, he's you. i will now speak separately about mike pompeo's plan, but still, what he says

and what we hear from him or senator vance and some others, up to his son, can rather be interpreted as that he is ready to negotiate with putin himself, no formats are needed, neither swiss, nor in jeddah, saudi formats, nor chinese, and why, he says, i will meet with putin and agree, that is , any shuttle missions of orban and others, this all the quality of actions that... serve trump's position, who are trying to involve him in some kind of peace process, some format, istanbul, for example, he doesn't need it, he says: i will personally agree with putin, and why can't they agree? we heard the parameters of the plan closest to trump, according to which he does not refuse assistance to ukraine, but makes it dependent on ukraine's readiness to participate in peace negotiations, that is, we will help militarily, but ukraine must agree to peace negotiations, or it... a parallel or substitute process, but quite certain. i want to say that this

cannot happen before january 20, because trump will be inaugurated if he wins the election only on january 20 , 2025, and then closer to the spring he will hold meetings with putin and something will be decided, whether they can agree or not, in principle . all the remaining arguments that the ukrainian government is not recognized because after may 20 president zelenskyi is not legitimate are all moscow. does through ipso to lower dumping power in ukraine, but no more, understanding that in fact, this is not an argument, they will already talk to the authorities in kyiv, of course, they will conduct negotiations, if they do start, as regards all these formats and the swiss peace formula, and the previous one in istanbul, and the initiative of saudi arabia, which on august 5, 2023 took place, and the chinese initiative on a peace conference with the mandatory participation of russia is planned for the next one of them. i think it's just a smoke screen, really, it's still a game played by both sides, and

the us is playing, and kyiv is playing, somewhere it says: "well, we ready for negotiations", understanding that in this format, in which moscow puts forward preconditions, and putin will put forward his three important preconditions before the summit in switzerland, which he believes must be implemented regardless of the start of negotiations, the lifting of sanctions, the non-aligned status of ukraine and the liberation of the four unoccupied territories, donetsk, zaporizhia , and kherson previous conditions. what does moscow demand? it needs a cease-fire, it needs preambles to a truce, because it's different, it's not just a cease-fire. a truce always has guarantors. the parties can stop the fire, but the grants should contribute to a truce, at least temporarily. then negotiate directly about... the details of some arrangements, agreements, etc. currently, i do not see any conditions for

solving this problem. kyiv and moscow simply cannot meet somewhere without intermediaries. and such an intermediary is not ready. there is no one in the us, and erdogan has already lost his the position of an intermediary whom kyiv trusts. first of all, the usa and the west do not see erdogan as such an effective mediator, since he would get too close to moscow, we see that. therefore, it is unlikely that there will be an erdoğan site. effective, in relation to china, it is more tempting, because china has an important trump card, not with moscow, the ability to influence it and attract it to negotiations, to force it to participate, this is a format that will approve: china itself, but it faces the problem of the united states, not are going to give china such trump cards. they are not they want china to act in this conflict on the territory of europe as a peacemaker, mediator, guarantor, someone else there strengthening its international authority, like, now china decides when to start and stop wars, the usa will never agree to this, never. trump

is generally anti-chinese, and even the current biden administration continues. after obama, to call china not a superpower, but a regional power in southwest asia, and nothing more, does not recognize his claim to some kind of binary world, bipolar, in which there is washington and beijing, therefore, the usa will not agree to this. in my opinion, there is a very high probability that negotiations will begin precisely from the meeting, if trump wins, trump and putin. if trump does not win, then it is very likely that some quadrilateral will be formed. usa, thailand russia-ukraine. such a quadrilateral may arise if kamala harris comes to power and trump loses the election. then yes, this configuration has better chances, but it cannot happen before spring . well, in any case, mark, we understand that putin voiced those conditions, which are unacceptable by definition, for a reason. since no offense to putin, but he is not

a clinical idiot, and he is quite experienced in this, that is, he could not voice certain ones. parameters, in particular, when we talk about the annexation of not yet captured ukrainian territories, and taking into account aviation, the f-16 component, we understand that putin's plan, even for his generals, is unrealistic, but he went for it, and here we can assume that these or other environments are possible, i do not know what mandate abramovich had for istanbul, yes, but he represented someone, well , accordingly, putin wants to cut off those or others alternative to his position, ideas, respectively, pompeo's plan, we understand, this is good, but also there is no stamp on this plan with the name of president donald trump, because it is not a fact that he will become president, but always in any case trump can to say, well, these are pompeo's fantasies, he's a cool dude, i respect him, we drank 4 liters

of whiskey, but it's not my idea, so accordingly, we can also have unpleasant surprises here.' crisis, yes, because trump, the guy is also experienced, but his experience, well, it is not a fact that he will benefit us. well, that's about it pompeo, we promised to talk about it, yes, it is quite an effective plan, there is one caveat that can be very painful for ukrainian public opinion, that ukraine may lose part of the territory, i mean the plan that i printed from the wall street journal. as for the rest, it's a perfect plan from the point of view of ukraine's sovereignty, it's nato membership and the rest of the things that... it's repeated like boris johnson's in his plan, which we also saw in the daily mail the day before. yes, give up some part of the territory, but what exactly, four regions plus crimea, or only a part of these four regions? this is a question of the negotiating position, which, pompeo hints, will be trump's negotiating position, namely on these parts. the trouble is that precisely

the first part of the plan, the absolute sovereignty of ukraine, is unacceptable to moscow. these plans of both johnson and pompeo are not... acceptable to moscow, they may be acceptable to trump, but moscow will never agree to a change in non-aligned status, so likely in these three preconditions that putin named before the summit in switzerland, provoking the summit in switzerland to some sharp reactions, there are conditions for the withdrawal of units of the armed forces from the unoccupied parts of the territories of the four regions, but maybe he can give in to this, here they can move the administrative border, maybe the condition of lifting sanctions is important for moscow. because the sanctions are painful, painful, but still , they are sanctions imposed by third countries. ukrainian sanctions are not the most principled for moscow, but american, european, australian, canadian, japanese, and other countries, it is necessary for them to address this asking why kyiv, if it declares an agreement under the previous conditions, should be concerned with the cancellation of these sanctions, which are

sanctions of third countries, but with regard to the non-aligned status, i.e. the prevention of ukraine's nato accession, moscow will not back down here. never, but on the ground, on the ground, as they are going, so to speak, to go for the return of the territory, so we also understand that this is a symbolic story, well, because putin, with him, they voiced it for a reason and so would say, made changes to the russian constitution, as well as with non-aligned status or nato membership, well , we understand moscow's position, that's the whole fable about the indivisibility of security and so on on the continent, but the story is against... the territories that must be returned, no matter how they could sell them, or they could not, and they will simply stand on that. indeed, the constitution of the russian federation, which included the price. subjects to its composition provides , including the laws that will follow from it, that it is impossible to change the territorial integrity of russia, there is a criminal article, even for

call, i defended ulmi umerov in crimea according to this article, in general one cannot talk about the rejection of the territory of the russian federation in any way, if they included them in their constitution, captured and included them, yes, they already occupied and included them, on the other hand, the constitution a russian... it’s shredded paper in the toilet, no one will pay attention to the constitution, it’s just that apart from the constitution, putin’s plans are even more ambitious, he wants the whole of ukraine, not just four regions, and here he leaves room for maneuver, i assume that he can move somewhere, say that we keep to ourselves occupied territories, this is a negotiating position, but for the unoccupied part, we are ready to bargain for what they offer us, and what he offers, it is interesting, and what he offers for all this in return, but in fact... it only shows that they will not attack kyiv, try to attack kyiv, especially after receiving these planes by ukraine, according to bloomberg, yesterday 20, maybe the first batch of planes,

no one knows how many, not to mention the rest, you first capture that kyiv, of course, if the troops stood near kiev, there would be others negotiations, but there is no way to determine this military balance, which gives preference to one side or another, it is such that when the war continues, ukraine will definitely lose it. or on the contrary, will ukraine resist? moscow will definitely lack the strength to hold the occupied territories, or will it be able to accumulate resources to reach the regional centers, kharkiv, odesa and others. no one knows the answer, there is a military balance, and in a military balance the conditions must be mutually acceptable, not imposed by one side trying to do moscow, and also uses other methods to push its position, because they cannot achieve this by military means . if they could achieve this, they would have already achieved it and would be standing in kyiv, but it is impossible to achieve this, so there is a big game going on here: who will increase the number of allies of their

position, who will exhaust their opportunities faster, etc., in particular, the information game, all these ipso , who are testing, they are also in order to undermine the unity, monolithicity, confidence in their own strength, and not only of ukraine, and also from the west, there are voices, now there is a favorable position, it's time to arrange negotiations, finnish. the president declares this, others also, because, of course, the war is depleting the resources of europe, in particular, especially since everyone is anxiously waiting for the results of the elections in america, europe is afraid of the arrival of trump, this is what the main powers, france, germany and others are afraid of, because they have a negative experience of interacting with trump during his presidency from 2016 to the 20th year. in this situation, there is no other recipe, no other way than to do what you do, keep fighting ukraine will now back down and agree to some

of putin's conditions, then it will be very difficult to play back, he will seize on it and say: you yourself agreed, you yourself are ready to sacrifice something, accordingly, this is a trap, and the kremlin wants to drive ukraine into this trap, the territorial issue is not as important for the kremlin as the issue of ukraine's sovereignty, which involves the possibility of... non-aligned status in nato and other european and other alliances. the main question is what ukraine will be like, what the 80% of the territory it controls will be like official kyiv, will come out of this war, or will they come out with a neutral status, which can be undermined by another new war, because you are not in nato, no one covers you. the network of agreements on guarantees that kyiv is currently signing for the post-war period may not work, but membership in nato will. we are like that. already seen, the baltic countries are an example of the fact that this status works, and this is the most fundamental issue, and it has not been resolved. thank you very much, mark, for this

extremely important conversation on espresso tv. take care, i'm helping dear god, i want to remind our tv viewers that mark feigin, a figure of the russian opposition not emigrating, a former deputy of the state duma, who received, according to the decision of the pseudo-first instance, 13 years of imprisonment, was working for them. will for anti-kremlin agitation. thanks mark. thank you. well, the time of our program is over, stay with the spresso tv channel. my colleagues will inform you about all the most important events of this day. take care of yourself and your loved ones. see you on air. we are looking for a brother and sister who disappeared during the occupation in the luhansk region in the village of baranivikka. the girl eva is four years old, and her brother artem

is eight. contact with the... children was cut off at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia, and nothing is known about them since then. so, if you have any information about eva and artem, please immediately call the magnolia children's search service hotline at 11630. calls from all mobile operators in ukraine are free. the search for six-year-old mysh melnyk, who also disappeared in the luhansk region, namely in the village of grechyshkine, continues. and we have very encouraging news about this boy. we have been looking for him since march 2022 and there was no news about him for a long time. we did not know where and with whom myshko was, and under what circumstances he disappeared. we have made many programs about the search for mishko, telling you his story and asking you to give us any information about the boy. and when it would seem that there were almost no chances left, the chatbot of the service.

a witness wrote in a telegram that he knew about myshko melnyk's whereabouts. this is the message we received. mishko in kindergarten, in the village of hrychyshkino, his grandmother brings him there. we have photos. we asked the witness for details and he confirmed that the boy is allegedly in the occupied village of grechyshkane and goes to his grandfather's kindergarten. we were also sent a photo and even a video with the boy. kindergarten in the village of hrychyshkino, it is located right next to the school, it is the only one there, it is called teremok. we congratulate you on the holiday. and this is a photo that we had for almost two years of searching. if we compare with those sent to us by the witness, then indeed, in both photos very similar boy. we were also

helped in the search by autumn specialists who ... information in open sources and they managed to find a page on the russian social network of classmates of mysh melnyk's probable mother. here she is, and here she is with little mouse. and this is a photo of a boy at a slightly older age. by the way, the last photo of mishka was posted by his mother on her page in february 2023. so, judging by the witness's message, the photos and videos he provided, and yes... the boy's mother's social network, everything indicates that on fortunately, myshko melnyk is all right and he is probably in the village of grechyshkine, luhansk region. however, so far this information has not been confirmed and we cannot be 100% sure that the boy has been found. so i am asking everyone, especially the residents of the occupied village of grechyshkine in the luhansk region. if you see this

program, then... please check whether the miller mouse is really studying in the teremok kindergarten, if possible, take a photo or video with him and his mother and send it to us in the chatbot of the children's search service in telegram. you can also contact us by short number 11630. calls from all mobile operators in ukraine are free. we have created a resource through which you can report any crime against. of a child in any city, at any time, just go to the site and report, and we will launch all possible mechanisms to punish the criminal. stopcrime ua.

greetings to all viewers of the tv channel, we are starting the information day with news. khrystyna porubiy works in the studio. let's start with the good news. the first gold for ukraine at the olympics in paris, it was won by the women's saber team. in the final, our athletes olga harlan, alina komashchuk, yulia bakastova and olena kravatska defeated the south korean national team in a tense confrontation, winning with a score of 45-43. this is ukraine's third medal at the 2024 olympics and the second in fencing. earlier, olga harland won bronze in the individual saber championship. so she became a record holder among ukrainian...