for air defense, but you know , i think it's too early to draw conclusions now, because this supply has only just begun, and it will all be gradual, well, you understand very well that a certain stage must be passed in order for the planes to be integrated, in order to , so that our western partners and everyone who works on this will see and be somewhat reassured that ukraine will not lose... almost on the first day since the planes are here at the airports or somewhere else, which is written about by a lot of western media, which means that it worries many westerners politicians, experts and so on. second, we have to see, ah, examples of successful combat use as well, which also instills hope and optimism. third, we have to integrate them into a coherent system and interaction of our air defense forces, which use anti-aircraft. no complexes and so

on. fourth, we need to demonstrate confidence for the event, that listen, nothing is happening, ukraine is integrating aircraft, ukrainian f-16 aircraft are already ukrainian and part of the air force and are performing very important tasks. and when, because you you understand that for the event this is also an image and reputation issue, they are also very afraid, and there are a lot of publications. who wrote about what will happen, how ukraine will protect the planes, how they will use them, let them not fly close to the front line, this was confirmed by the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine , oleksandr syrskyi, that the planes will not fly closer than 40 km away, this everything should pass, the situation will calm down, we will integrate the aircraft, and gradually, i am sure that this process, it will move away from the aircraft as a way to shoot down. missiles, aviation and drones,

to the plane that is gradually attacking enemy objects with guided air bombs, to the plane that is already attacking stormshedov and, in the future, possibly jesem, and the plane that is already chasing and driving away from ukrainian territory, from ukrainian airspace over the occupied territories enemy aviation, that's what it will gradually, it will arm with any kind. modern, which we received, we have to pass this stage, the planes will undergo baptism of fire, if they have not already passed, in principle, under certain conditions, and the situation, it will move further gradually towards the fact that these planes will perform different tasks, well, the russians note that it is not a threat to our f-16, their su-35s, if i am not mistaken, such a modification, in the end... ukrainian f-16s

will destroyed, say our enemies. at the same time, we are observing the continuation of systematic military work at russian airfields. one of the last is morozovsk. and there is confirmation from the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense. there they declare the destruction of the russian su-34 and ammunition warehouse. let me remind you that this blow was delivered on the night of august 3. two more russian planes of the same type were probably damaged by debris, and the su-35 could allegedly be present at the same morozovsk. mr. oleksandr, should we expect any real confrontation between the f-16 and su-35 in the sky and what might this confrontation look like, should we even talk about it now? i think that over time, everything can happen, and situations can be different, the fact is that ah... just like the su-35 and the f-16,

they are equipped with radars, and they can be equipped to be missiles that are just, well, let's say that they carry respective threats to each other, but i think that when we talk about the possibility of air combat, in the classical sense, as you can imagine, it may be possible when ukraine gets seap planes, just long-range radar detection, which are needed, well... airborne radars, which will help the f-16 in the sky, and then we can see such confrontations. before now, what is interesting is that, in principle, there are modifications of missiles for the f-16, which air air, which can to fly at 240-250 km, this is already a serious weapon, provided that there are also drl planes, which sweden gives us seabees, this would be a serious... reinforcement, this would be an argument

against enemy aviation, it is not yet known whether these missiles will be supplied to ukraine, here the question remains open, and drlv aircraft are still needed, without them. i think it is unlikely that we will see such dogfights in the near future. well, we wait and watch, in the meantime, in the meantime, if you look at the map and follow the changes on over the past months, we see that the russians are slowly but surely advancing, occupying new territories, and sometimes occupying territories previously de-occupied by ukrainian troops. and we immediately note that this is a war of extreme intensity and it is not necessary to make some kind of crazy disaster out of it, but when we talk about the trend, it is worth outlining certain points, here, mr. alexander, the situation in our eastern direction, new york, everything that

concerns closeness to horlivka, in particular, it is from her that the russians are now trying push back the ukrainian troops. as they say, well, during the yar times, what were the main, let's say, movements of the occupier in this particular area. well, as for generally speaking, donetsk is now a priority of the enemy, and they are conducting active offensive actions there. it must be said that everything is predicted, nothing happens that would be difficult to predict. obviously, one way or another. the enemy is looking for loopholes in our defense, i am calm during the time of the yar, i am calm about what is happening there, the ukrainian defense there holds the blow very well, so despite even the successes the enemy, they may still be, they do not carry any threatening character for one

simple reason, because since the abyss of time it has been possible for the russians to repeat bakhmut and avdiivka, in terms of losses, in terms of how ... they reduce their offensive pace and to break this pace, while the russian forces are being drawn down, these are the tasks that the ukrainian defense can perform now, under the current conditions, and it is performing them. as for the lyman direction in general, the kupino direction, the situation there is the same, the enemy has no significant success and it is possible to calm, but the pokrovsky direction is not something that, let's put it this way,... not something that directly causes so much, so much unrest, but the fact is that it is precisely there that the enemy is successful, and i think that this is also predicted, because the russian command operates according to a very simple principle, very simple, but as they consider

it effective, where there was success, there you should develop it, and now they are trying to actively develop success in the pokrovsk direction, i think that they will abandon now that ... can be thrown there in order to break through in the next few weeks, to expand the bridgehead, you see that they act in fact and try in advanced groups to penetrate, gain a foothold and then gradually expand the bridgehead, at the same time they are vulnerable, where they can our forces try to cut off their paths and hold them back, where they fail, they have to withdraw, but when it is necessary to understand that now... what tasks, accordingly, may face the ukrainian defense, based on the fact that russia is now such an aggressive beast, but wounded, it is necessary to cause it as much additional injuries and blood loss as possible in order for him to drain blood in all

such, let's say, bridgeheads that he arranges, to reduce their combat capability, to drain their forces, at the same time, while demonstrating a flexible defense system, without... losing ukrainian combat capability, excuse me, that is, it must be preserved, we have to maintain the potential of our forces, and accordingly, i think that's why our troops are there, where it is no longer possible to hold certain lines, because it has to be done at an extremely high cost, they leave, and that, and that's why we see right now that happening at the front, summing up, i can to say that in principle the trends in... they will be like this and will continue during august for sure, somewhere the enemy will still have success, how far they will manage to advance, it is difficult to say, but for sure, i think it will not be a success of an operational or strategic nature, they will be limited to such tactical ones, well, then everything

will depend, including on how long the russian aggressive machine can keep up at this pace, because they are about 10 months into the offensive in the great east. despite all the forces that russia attracts, despite the fact that they do not overturn, you see, i have already compared that the russian army now somewhat resembles the red army of the year 45 , only they got there with the help of the western allies, which should not be forgotten, and in the end they won in germany, and russia is losing its combat capability now in the battles, in the landings in donetsk region, and therefore, strictly speaking, they may continue to lose it, but there is a limit to everything, and this, by the way, is also a question, you know, it is unpleasant, because... what let's face it, what is possible for some of us westerners partners and, in principle, the option is suitable

for the ukrainian forces to wear down the fighting capacity of the russian troops, but the question arises as to the next step, that is, we receive support, we receive weapons that allow us to hold on to something, but we received it, well, let's say this, from pause, and we lost six months of 2024, in fact, because...we lacked weapons, and we only now reached certain indicators, those that are needed, and the next steps, that is, russia also understands, russia is delaying these offensives actions, counts on the fact that ukraine will not have time to form reserves that will be ready to intercept the initiative, because all the reserves will be unwound in the battles in the east, this is what the enemy is counting on, and they think that they will advance, will have some ... successes, but then they will go on a pause, for regrouping before staffing, and ukraine

will not have time to seize the initiative, that is what their calculation is for, so here, in principle , we would like a clearer reaction from our partners to make the support more effective in order to have the tools to deter and stop the enemy , well, a little let's calm down immediately from the united states , the other day we receive... about four billion in the context of the aid that was allocated to us, but the russian federation continues, continues to grind down its certain economic opportunities as well, so that the military machine does not grind down in any way, regarding the capabilities of the russian federation to produce everything necessary for war. a few more such interesting observations. one of them concerns the use of long-range drones, forbes writes. ukraine launched more for the first time

long-range drones than the russian federation, this is a statistic for july. if we are talking about ukrainian units, then these are 520 uavs, and the russian federation launched 426, and we managed to shoot down the vast majority of these 426. what can this say, mr. alexander, can we say that a certain hack... has already taken place, and the russian rear now becomes even more sensitive to our influence, clearly, a hack has taken place, and a significant one, because let's say and remember the situation , two years ago we could only dream, i remember everything conversations, when russia started drone terror, added to the missile terror, which they started even earlier, and when in october 2022 shahedi began to fly over the territory of ukraine, and then many people asked ... questions, well, look , it seems that shahedi is not like that sophisticated high-tech weapons, we can also

produce them, and since then, an active search for solutions to not just produce, to produce in such a way as to have an advantage over the enemy, and our attacks have been more successful. forbes, by the way, noted that in july, ukraine was more successful in attacks on territory of russia on the so-called deep strikes than russia, and this is really a serious evolution. and this is really what inspires hope and optimism , in fact, because it is necessary to understand that strikes in the rear and on the territory of russia are something that works, it has its effect, be it intermittent, be it not instantaneous, but it certainly has, and it forces the enemy to adjust their plans, military components, move their planes, lose planes, lose weapons, it forces them to... you alternate delivery routes, logistics, which doesn't always work because they lose on in other directions, it forces them to adjust

their plans for gasoline prices and restrictions on the export of oil products, and so on, that is , all this has results, of course, and it also has negative reputational and image results for russia, because when the world looks , as far as russia is vulnerable, it's perfectly clear that... in which this potential looks like just a puff of cheeks, so, actually, this is a tactic that works, i think it will only increase, that is, the frequency of strikes in august, it will more. than it was in july, in september even more than in in august, this is how it will work, and it will certainly have an effect that will be extrapolated to the battlefield as well, and the task of striking russian airfields, oil refineries and logistics is one of the most effective means of forcing russia to negotiate peace on the terms of ukraine, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi declares this, that is, mr. oleksandr, i

understand correctly, we are currently engaged in creating an appropriate situation in which... in which the russian federation has no other options but to stop and talk to us, right? at the same time, we provide ourselves with a strong position so that this position is, that the peace summits are held not just to gather and condemn russia once again, but so that the world that is gathering, those countries that are coming, see that ukraine, including on the battlefield... and this is very important, because the war continues, and the front, and the situation at the front, the situation with death strikes and so on, it has a direct reflection on everything that is happening, and in order to demonstrate to all that look, we also have a power component that can guarantee us a strong position at the negotiating table, how does it work, let's take, for example,

the situation with china, some negotiations, and china says: listen, you have to stop something, for example, stop acting there on the battlefield, then russia will do something, and we must say: listen, well, if russia does not stop striking the ukrainian energy system, hitting children's hospitals with missiles, we will continue to strike military facilities on the territory of russia and will only to increase, and this is already a strong position, and this is already what works, this is already what you can use to interrupt any russian map. therefore, of course, this argument, i have always said that what and what position of the defense forces of ukraine will be drawn up, which they will be able to provide, including with the help of our partners, will be based on that in the future and the ukrainian diplomatic position, this is absolutely inextricably linked things. thank you very much, oleksandr mosienko,

director of the center for military legal research, was in touch with us for the project new week, thank you. once again, i remind you that today we are asking our viewers and listeners, do you think that the russian people are as guilty of the war as putin is? in my opinion, this question sounds a bit rhetorical, but still we understand that people can think differently, and we value your opinion very much, it is absolutely invaluable to us, so please, if you think that russians are completely , as well as putin are guilty, then 0800 211 381, if you think that and... no, not all, then 0800 211 382, ​​i emphasize once again, absolutely free, join in, well, i am glad to welcome to the studio oleg penzyn, economist, executive director of the economic discussion club, mr. oleg, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, to the heroes of glory, i am also very glad to see you, very mutual, wartime economy and innovations that we may not be able

to avoid, the government says it is making compromises with business on. raising taxes, that's how they think, i'd like us to quote mr. hetmantsev now, the military levy on legal entities of 1%, which is actually a turnover tax, will be excluded from the government draft law number 11416 on raising taxes and probably replaced by a value added tax, the head of the specialized parliamentary committee danylo hetmantsev announced this based on the results of the first consultations with business, regarding the first drafts of architecture from... changes to the tax draft of the cabinet of ministers, offices more not fully understood, but i agree with the business that a one percent sales tax will not pass, and thank god, we definitely do not need a new complex tax. well, mr. oleg, new, new tax rules, to the extent that it is, you know, an inevitable story as of now for

the ukrainian economy, or perhaps it would be worth listening to peni's words. who noted that ukraine has other sources of possible income, which we have not yet touched, well, half a trillion money is not enough for defense security, this is true, for some reason it is often mistakenly called a deficit of the state budget, no, you and i have the deficit of the state budget is 1.6 trillion, this is what we actually compensate at the expense of... macro-financial aid loans in the 23rd last year we received 42 billion dollars, this year it is 37 billion dollars, half of it, and that money goes entirely to... social payments owed by the state to its citizens, and there are also salaries of state employees that are not

related to security and defense , but you just need to understand that according to the terms of macro-financial assistance, it cannot be used for war, so let's have a good idea about how to reduce the salaries of civil servants and transfer those funds to the military. will not pass simply because this salary is paid on account macro-financial assistance, that is, it will not pass here. well, when you and i are talking about half a trillion, this is actually the money that the state should collect from the economy of ukraine, i.e. not to borrow on foreign markets, actually from the economy of ukraine and from its citizens, well, that’s how it is in the direct text, that is, we have written 1.7 trillion in the budget, and this money is not enough, it is not enough for some... reasons: the first reason, well, at the beginning of this year, and marchenko spoke about this more than once, we did not have help from the americans in the military technical, so part of the funds was from

at the end of the year was transferred to the purchase of weapons and ammunition, well, about 200 billion hryvnias, this money is already not enough, that is , 200 billion times, well, listen, we understand with you that... one of each is mobilized, that is 1,300 of budget every year. we are currently increasing mobilization. if we want to mobilize additional 100,000, conditionally, we need to have 135, 130 billion uah of additional funds from the state budget. that is, it is necessary to understand that this deficit, which we are talking about now, is a deficit of actual expenses security and defense. that is, i say once again, they are possible. take only from the economy, that is, there or you will take it from legal business, screwing up taxes once again,

again, from legal business it is very conditional, because if you and i look at all the innovations proposed by the government, this taxes are not on business, they are taxes on you and me, why? well, look, who is the final payer of the excise tax? well, who pays the excise tax? the end user pays, i.e. you buy fuel, you pay excise duty, er, you buy alcohol, you pay excise duty, you buy tobacco, you pay excise duty, you received income and paid the military levy from it, this is your payment, it is not a business payment, that is, all the innovations we are talking about now are money from those legal citizens of ukraine , who already pay taxes, by the way, there is an innovation regarding the increase of the value added tax of the so -called vat, it is already 100%, here no one will even have doubts, this is again a tax on

you and me, it pays the final consumer, i.e. will we have it with you today at the moment, those funds are needed to collect in the budget those 130, 140 billion hryvnias, because the innovations we are talking about now will cover half a trillion... maybe 130-140 billion. the last funds that are needed , the ministry of finance plans to take part of the funds from the transfer of funds for servicing the state debt. you and i know that ukraine signed the debt restructuring. ugh. and those 60 billion that were planned to be paid this year for debt service can be transferred. on defense security, i.e. minus 60 of those half a trillion, and the last one, where can you borrow take, in my

opinion, it's a little too optimistic, because it's unlikely to be able to do it, at the expense of domestic government loan bonds, at the expense of war bonds, why i say it's a little optimistic, look, at the beginning of this year the ministry . nasiv holds auctions for the sale of ovdp bonds every tuesday. and he has, in fact, in those 1.7 trillion that we talked about from the very beginning, he has the expected borrowings from bonds of the domestic state loan. as of july, he is not fulfilling the plan on the attraction of bonds, on the attraction of funds through bonds. it was supposed to attract 320 billion for the month of july, it attracted 200.285 according to their reports, is the ministry of finance in a position today

to borrow additionally to the plan, which is not being implemented anyway. 70 billion hryvnias, well, i don't know, there is a question, so in my opinion, what mrs. pritzker is saying, what the business is saying at the moment, what all the recent ones are saying, well, this, in my opinion, is extraordinary important, why, because you and i have a huge shadow economy, we have you, 40% of the ukrainian economy is shadow, that is, it is... businesses that do not pay a single penny of taxes by definition, well, well , consider that, according to approximate estimates of economists, these are amounts that the shadow economy does not pay in addition to the state budget, is about 750-800 billion hryvnias per year, well, if we are talking about half a year, then count it 400, 450, these are the funds that could fully

cover. this need for additional financing of defense security, but there, at least, it is necessary to start with the detinization of those state bodies that actively work in in this direction, i.e. it is the customs, it is the state fiscal service, it is the restart of the economic security bureau, i.e. we rest in principle on theses. where would the path begin, in general, reform with or without war, it is simply necessary to normalize the work of the relevant bodies in a good sense, i understand correctly, look, all the years of independence of ukraine, all the years, every government, uh, one, one of the slogans, with which he used to say at the beginning of his work, the fight against tinization, the reset - customs,

tax, the main thing in that situation is in the process the research doesn't come out on its own, i 'm sorry, ugh, what's the problem? the problem is that, unfortunately, i have a lot of pessimism about this, i don't really believe that in a very short period of time we will suddenly manage to break the paradigm in which ukraine has existed for all the years of independence and struggle counterfeiting, combating smuggling, combating fiscal bribers, well, something i have extremely big doubts that it will be possible to do in the next two months, it was a very good idea to try to shed some light, well, at least not black, at least gray business, having introduced economic reservation, repeatedly raised these

issues on the air, five bills are in the verkhovna rada, today, none of them have been considered in the session hall, even in the first reading, although theoretically he, these draft laws are supported by business, there are favorable positions of various kinds of business associations, so what, but nothing so far, this could be an additional source, because when you and i talk about the taxes that are planned, well, listen, we can get absolutely the opposite reaction, what? well , just imagine, 15% for the first registration in addition to the first registration of cars when buying, well, we understand with you how a sincere ukrainian will get out of this situation, well , he will not go and buy legal cars in a legal business, he will drive them abroad, will look for shady schemes through the tax office, through customs, whether we understand it or

not, we understand. 5% military levy on the purchase of real estate, and our real estate is already subject to a lot of taxes today, so what will happen a sincere ukrainian will do, i’m sorry, he will understate the purchase price in order to avoid an increase, well, that is, we are a business instead of bringing it to light, with these additional taxes we will stupidly drive him into the shadows, 30% for the purchase of jewelry, well, that’s not ... means that less money will be bought, it means that they will look for mechanisms to avoid this tax, that is, we, look, those 1.7 basic trills that are in the state budget, this is not real money, it is what we need to earn for the legal business by the end of the year and from what to pay tax, this money is not physically available, you still have to earn it, huh.