capable of such i'd like us to listen now to donald trump, the republican delegate in this united states presidential election. he is skeptical about this exchange, what is his justification? we are listening. i want to congratulate vladimir putin on concluding another great deal. did you see the deal we just made? at one time , i managed to free 59 hostages. and i never paid anything for it, and they turned out some of the greatest killers in the world, the most dangerous killers. yes, we returned our people, but we make terrible, terrible deals. sure, it's nice to say we got them back, but it sets a bad precedent. it seems to me that the attitude of ukrainians towards donald trump moves, you know, along a sine wave, because sometimes he says

things that are absolutely unacceptable for... us in our situation, and sometimes, and sometimes you can catch some kind of logic in his speeches, sir oleksandr, do you share certain reservations voiced by donald trump regarding the benefits of conditions for the united states. well, i think that here, well, first of all, it is political the struggle for the white house, and it is clear that he will criticize any step of the current administration, and of course a little... let's say touch on the future candidate from the democrats , and i would say that this is a provocative statement of his, that i welcome mr. putin , it is certainly not acceptable, because, well, in fact , he once again sided with putin, actually, nor with the united states and its citizens, and here , absolutely, i would say yes, it was not a very american way to say it, but he is right that... putin got what he wanted, well actually

the murderer of one of the chechen officers in an open murder just a few minutes from the authorities in germany, convicted because it was proven, and by the way, it is interesting there that he not only killed this person, he has a large number of murders behind him and they even say that he was involved in killing putin's former boss, savchak, the mayor. burga here, but in any case, putin got the maximum of what he wanted, got rid of those russian oppositionists, who certainly did not pose a threat to him either in prison or at large in the russian federation, and rather everything, it is unlikely that they will be able to do something, there is some kind of unification, unfortunately, with such views as they have, it will definitely not be possible to unite the entire opposition, so yes, i would say that this exchange . would probably have been

more beneficial to putin, but on the other hand, you know that the united states, it is their principled, let's say it like that, principled policy, to release, to get out of any mess of their own citizens, and it is clear what they did, that absolutely commendable and i think it's something any country should do, another question for trump is whether he would be able to agree with putin that putin would give him without... exchange without any other interests of these people, i think it is unlikely, well, by and large, in this speech, trump tried to reduce the negative, let's say, negative consequences of his previous statement that putin will give these people away before, or rather, between trump winning the election and the moment he takes the oath of office and that is... the inauguration, that's

of course what he needed to level in some striking way this negative context, which was not given to him, but was given to him to joseph biden, well, mr. alexander, in the meantime, in the meantime, the white house and the world in general , in anticipation of probable, probable actions by iran towards israel, there are very cautiously under the... will it generally be similar to the spring attack, when missiles and drones are all in a pile, but less at that moment, let me remind you, it was not crowned with anything earth-shattering, most likely yes, that is , they have to respond, well, this is the principle, you know, a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye, that's why it's clear that... iranians won't dare to

direct confrontation, then it is quite difficult, in fact, why did they support it all these terrorist groups and in the territory of israel. both in lebanon and, therefore, in yemen, because they tried through their proxies to influence and threaten israel and achieve their goals, and of course, missile and drone strikes are what iran is protecting, we don't know how iran can fight, as it is a rather complex country from the point of view of ethnic composition, from the point of view of political views and... it is very difficult to imagine what this regime will be able to do to mobilize a large number of people in order to wage this war, so i think that, well , plus, you know, the way ukraine turned out in russia, it didn't turn out the way it was supposed to, because you know, i'll remember mike tyson's saying that

everyone has a very good plan, until i got a blunder, and actually the same thing, i think the ayatollahs are thinking about what the consequences will be. actions, of course, they have to do something so, you know, epic, i would say yes, but not so much as to get involved in the war and accordingly have every chance of losing, because of course the united states is now intensifying its presence in the region, and there are other allies of israel, then of course there is the reluctance of some countries that are very powerful and militarily, formal allies of the united states, arab, i mean countries that would not want this. conflict and in the event of its occurrence, i think that they will definitely not support iran's actions, so let's hope for something bright, but not something that can lead to the escalation and departure of this conflict from the framework that we have seen.

finally, mr. oleksandr, our relations with this country are also small, diplomatically they... no longer want to support them, our ministry of foreign affairs considers this a short-sighted, short-sighted and hasty decision, i would like to remind you that this decision followed the intensification of the work of the ukrainian military outside the borders of our country, and we are talking about the liquidation of quite a large number of representatives of the so-called wagner pmc in this country. who were there to reinforce these government pro-government forces, with our help, purely ukrainian, those regs were able to work quite qualitatively on the liquidation of the wagnerites, what are we losing or

what do we get by breaking off these diplomatic relations, we don't have much time, two minutes, please, well, i would say the first thing. i would say that all the representatives of the russian federation who were involved in the war against ukraine, or may be involved in the war against ukraine, are absolutely legitimate, especially the mercenaries, especially wagner's terrorists, and it is clear that their destruction was absolutely the right thing to do. other issues, and here you can criticize the ukrainian authorities from the point of view that, unfortunately, we did not act as massat does, that is, we did not confirm or deny the presence of ukrainian there, that is , we hinted so, and of course, well, there is pride for our military intelligence officers, but actually we received such a negative diplomatic , such a diplomatic answer, and of course that this is not only a question of small countries, but of other countries, and

of course that the question of how these events are presented in the region, and of course that these can be consequences not only in the smallest way, but such an attitude towards ukraine, and of course our russian ones. georgians will now try to show that ukraine is a pawn of the united states states, that it acts as a colonizer, because the russian federation supports the legitimate government there, and that a crime has been committed and so on, that is, in principle, there will now be diplomatically strained relations with several african countries, of course, that this will give russian propaganda the opportunity to spin it , it is clear that small is not the key... in africa or in general for us, but maintaining diplomatic relations is such an important thing in order to promote our national interests, and of course it is a pity that this moment got out of control and we received a break in diplomatic relations.

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this is the new week program on espresso. thank you for being with us every monday. my name is khrystyna yatskiv, and i would like to remind you that today we are asking you about the following. do you think that the russian people are as guilty of the war as putin is. if you think so, then 0800 211 381, if not, then 0800 211 382. please vote, all your calls will be free, but we just value your opinion immensely, join us, so far the results of the first hour of our program , we see that the literal majority of those who called us believe that... all russians are guilty as well as putin in aggression against ukraine and

generally not only. well, i am happy to congratulate my colleague andrii smoliya. he is in touch with the studio. it is in this format that we will meet with you in the second part of the new week in the coming weeks. andriy, congratulations and glory to ukraine. congratulations to the heroes , congratulations to all the viewers. well, we have a slightly different format, but still. today we will talk, and traditionally the second hour, the first hour, khrystyna had a wonderful time, and i am very glad that, as they say, our experts were on... on in our new week program, and now we have the second hour, where we will analyze, where we will speak, where we will express our opinion and our vision regarding the events that are happening in our country, that are happening in the world and which will take place in the new week, so let's start,

we will probably start with the expected, but such that did not happen, rotations in the political part of the ukrainian leadership during the war, i will remind you that the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi spoke about them in general still, well practically putting his signature under the resignation from the position of head of the commissar valery zaluzhny, and someone believes that it is really time, now we have a government that has been running our country for a record long time, managing all the processes in our country. this is extremely important, but how qualitatively, i think there can be discussions here, volodymyr zelenskyi, the ukrainian president, at the end of the week announced personnel changes in the cabinet of ministers, probably alluding to the minister of education, let's listen,

personnel decisions are being prepared at the government level, as well as additional a decision so that already this autumn more ukrainian... children could study in schools not online, but normally, so that there would be a normal school life, well, as much as it is possible now during the war. well, andrei, what do you see, do we really have problems exclusively in the educational sphere now, and can we place the responsibility for this on a minister who, less than many of the other ministries, heads his own ministry, and whether it will be possible to exclude, well, let's say so, several figures from the composition of the ministers? we traditionally always have the president and the majority they always tried, relatively speaking, to change some individual figures, but not to change

the government in general, which, unfortunately, many ukrainians have a lot of questions about. and i think that those kinds of rumors that have been going around for the last few weeks about the resignation of the government in general, let's talk about the fact that there were indeed conversations that finally, supposedly finally , not only an individual minister or several individual ministers, including the prime minister, may be dismissed, denis shmyhal. and, accordingly, this means that if the prime minister resigns, it means, in principle, always traditionally, and according to the current legislation, that the entire government resigns, some even said that, relatively speaking, the sly to zelensky, there were some different wordings, so to speak, but we have what we have, he was in his

place, he was dismissed many times, i remember another 2000, by the way, the 20th... year, when yes they themselves said that listen, he was elected there in the first days of march this government, but somewhere in september it will be sent to resign, that is, it did not happen, it did not happen now, but we must understand that all the same, we cannot avoid individual resignations, resignations of individual ministers, i think that it can be again a kind of letting off steam for... society, and why? in our country, as of now, in general, trust in the government is one of the lowest levels of public trust in public institutions. all sociological surveys, including the most recent ones, say this held in may june. they are talking about the fact that the government, for the most part, even more, the absolute majority of 2/3 of our population does not

trust, and accordingly, probably, they would like, if people do not trust, a change of government. therefore, of course, simply rearranging the pieces on this governmental chessboard will not change the situation, and it will not actually improve the attitude of ukrainians, the attitude of our citizens towards the government, which, unfortunately, has a lot of questions, and there are many questions about i would say to the majority of ministers, to the absolute majority, not only there are questions for the minister of education, the minister of energy, there are questions for the minister of health, by the way, today we will be in our program. here literally in a few minutes to talk, including about the scandal that happened in v with okhmaddyt, and that too. questions of the agenda, questions to the minister, questions to the ministry, questions to the government in general, questions to the very concept of forming approaches, both governmental,

again, to especially such, i would say , difficult questions, to such questions that are extremely sensitive, well, when hundreds of thousands of our citizens, when tens or even hundreds of different businesses from... accordingly donated, helped okhmadit, and we see this kind of approach, well, it means that the government really has a crisis, and that the government really most likely loses the support it should have had during the war, but i think that until september, since the verkhovna rada has once again gone on vacation, the verkhovna rada is not working in our country , then respectively. i think that by september there will be some big months there will be no resignations or any major reshuffles in the government, but please tell me, andrii, there was such a guess among our journalist colleagues,

in particular, it seems, on the ukrainian truth, i saw a discussion on this account, and what is the point of going on vacation in the middle of summer, in the middle of a war, in the middle of budget problems, including the ones we have now. in the country, all this was very appropriate precisely in the context of possible questions about the composition of the ukrainian government, and no matter how important the issue of voting for liquidation in our the country of the fsb branch, the church of the moscow patriarchate and so on, but it is very likely that this issue, well, unfortunately, played along. er again delaying the review process of our managers in the country, our government in the country. what do you think about it? well, in fact, we must

understand one thing: in our government, and we see that, including in the majority, very often there are no candidates to fill even de facto vacant positions, so let's imagine, so we can really imagine that the majority in the verkhovna rada or about... simply the majority of the deputies of the verkhovna rada will send to the resignation of a certain minister or two ministers or three or even five, but the question is who to replace, and this question, you know, it is so painful in our country, because very often it lasted for months, and sometimes it happened that and there was no time for a year, there were no ministers in their posts, there were only acting ministers. there were temporary acting responsibilities, there were people who, i'm sorry, we still have a minister of information policy and culture, if i'm not mistaken, there is none, well, correct me khrystina,

i think there is none, maybe i, maybe i'm something i forgot, maybe i made a mistake somewhere, but, but i'm sorry, there can't be temporary acting responsibilities in such key positions, and i think that this is really a decision and a ban. of the russian orthodox church, a shameful decision, the fact that the deputies did not actually vote, although there were votes, and by the way, this was also acknowledged today by the head of the committee on information policy, nikita poturaev, a representative, by the way, of the pro-government majority, he said about the fact that we have 240 votes, if i'm not mistaken, he said, there were none, yes, and yes, most likely, this situation , including, could be used to delay... the possibility of some personnel changes, because on the one hand, they promised that these personnel changes would happen, that is, people, if they were waiting, and and in the end some

ministers are already there most likely preparing their things for exit, and there are not so many candidates, people who are ready to lead, who are professionals, and who, especially in such a crisis period, in such a difficult period for our country. are ready to take responsibility first of all, there are not so many of them, and to things, these people should understand that they are simply burning themselves, relatively speaking, politically immediately, because anyone who now takes the position of minister, or vice prime minister or prime minister, this person immediately receives a huge minus to your rating, to your certain political, political portfolio, i.e.... unpopular decisions, they need to be made, therefore, most likely , the verkhovna rada of ukraine, including and not , went to the eyes of the so-called vacation, which i

emphasize once again, hardly. you can call it the decision was adequate in the conditions of a great war, but they went on vacation, they did not vote for the ban of the russian orthodox church, which, which is also no less shameful, they did not really vote for the resignation of certain ministers, and maybe, and i say again, maybe for the resignation of the prime minister, everything is possible, there was also talk about the fact that one of the representatives of the current government can lead. government, again, but i say once again, in my opinion, there are unlikely to be any major changes until september, the only thing that, indeed, the verkhovna rada the council of ukraine may still meet in the coming days or weeks, and i hope to pass the draft law that was passed, by the way, in the first reading, to pass in the second reading the draft law on banning branches of the russian orthodox church on the territory of ukraine in the form in

which... given by the committee, that's really what the council should do and what most of society expects, and that, by the way, it would, by the way, unite society, because according to all the polls, according to all the studies that are possible now, expert, adequate according to expert estimates, the absolute majority of our country, i.e. 70% plus, clearly say that they are for or against the ban. or for the intervention of the state in the branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, regarding the government, i think that we really need to observe here, but government officials need to be responsible for their actions, they need to report, by the way, i want to remind you that our government officials are very very often do not report to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, do not come to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, and even after

their... resignation, or conditionally before their resignation, they do not report on their activities, this really needs to be corrected, and this is what i consider unacceptable, even during martial law, there is no need to cover up with martial law, it is necessary to understand that accountability and responsibility, it should be, well and andrii, let's talk a few words with you about ohmadit, everything related to the reconstruction of this hospital, let's talk, i will remind you that the damage to... the largest children's hospital in our country, and in principle, one of the largest, as i i understand, in eastern europe, occurred as a result of a russian targeted, targeted missile attack, and indeed , okhmadite is now paralyzed in many ways in terms of its functions, which means that this attack, you know, it has some kind of prolonged effect, it's hard to imagine how many small patients will not receive

qualified... assistance only because a russian missile destroyed the equipment that can provide this assistance, the premises where this assistance can be provided, and we understand that now other medical institutions and specialists of our countries have taken over this burden, but less so, ohmadite is a phenomenon, unfortunately, in recent days we have been talking about this phenomenon in not the best context, and from a fresh start... the ministry of health still cancels all those announced by the clinic okhmadito tenders for technical supervision of construction works, let me remind you that these services could actually cost crazy, insane amounts of money that were collected by caring ukrainians, as we understand, not only private individuals and businesses, okhmadito collected for reconstruction

big, colossal funds. and the hospital can really be put in order quickly, as we understand it, if, if we still turn to some adequate contractors, what is the interest in not turning to adequate contractors? well, here the question seems rhetorical to me, although the answer to it may be obvious, perhaps this money is a piece of cake for those who are engaged in the reconstruction of ohmadite. well, let's remind you that the tender for the reconstruction of the okhmadit children's hospital damaged by the russian attack costs more than uah 300 million, the little-known zaporizhzhia company bood won technologie, and this was the first to be reported in the anti-corruption center, despite the fact that 10 other applicants offered a lower price, and boot technologie, in principle, does not have the appropriate equipment in sufficient quantity so precisely to talk about reconstruction.