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i would equate the position made public by the russian oppositionists with the actions of the western authorities, well, of the western countries, the situation is just different now, that is the danger, in the 22nd year there was a rather harsh and sharp reaction of hope not only of the russian authorities, of russia as such, and it was then that the toxicity syndrome of russians as such arose, it arose spontaneously in the west, now there is no such situation, but now... there is another danger, and it seems to me that it is felt by many western countries, well, especially in europe, from poland to great britain , this is what russia started such a large-scale hybrid war against the west, the organization of sabotage, the preparation of attempts, like in the situation with the head of the rain metal concern, we see the provocation of some kind of...
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internal unrest, like in great britain, it happened through a russian information resource, the sabotage is being organized by the russian special services, and the west is now starting to feel it, so i think that these russian oppositionists, maybe they have not yet felt how large-scale this war has become, it is already a war not only between russia and ukraine, but this the war is already between russia and the west, and in this war there was... it was said about educational visas, well, the reaction is indicative of hungary's actions. hungary allocated a quota for russian citizens for residence. and this is immediately perceived in the west as a threat to national security, because among those 50,000 russians there may be a thousand, or even more, ffsb agents, who will then travel around europe, since hungary is in schengen, yes, and start organizing sabotage and murder in europe. and russian
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oppositionists do not understand this, so i would not equate the position of the west with the position western countries, their caution, in particular the caution of the white house, it has a different logic, in the west, well, too cautious, let’s say, they treat russia, they are afraid, first of all, of the use of nuclear weapons, well, here is a simple example, you talk about the events in kurtsky in kurtsky in the kurdistan region , they mentioned, already in the russian public, calls to use tactical nuclear weapons against ukraine, and in the usa, for example, they take such a risk quite seriously, then if we talk about the collapse of russia, well, we remember, it was like that it was the same in 1991 the speech of george w. bush in kyiv, his famous chicken kyiv speech, when he actually spoke against the collapse of the soviet union, they are afraid that... "if something
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happens to russia, the nuclear weapons will be guided, and there is something else to fear, one must be afraid of the use of nuclear weapons by russia and its aggressiveness, they are afraid that if there is permission to strike russian territory with western weapons, a conflict with the west may arise, i think these are excessive fears, but this is their logic, they are afraid of escalation war, and russian oppositionists can play along with this mood, but that's it. they, well, let's put it this way, simply, it seems to me that they still, well, do not adequately understand the world to which they returned, it has changed in these two years, almost 2.5 years of the war, and these russian oppositionists have remained in the past, and they do not understand that russia has changed, and the world has changed, relations between russia and the west have changed, and they are making calls that were made there in the 14th year and later, therefore... if they
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continue with this position, well this is a diagnosis, this opposition will be absolutely incapable, and as it was before, changes in russia can take place, but without the participation of such an opposition. volodymyr, but to sum it up, somehow official kyiv should conduct a dialogue with these oppositionists? mykhailo podolyak, said that the real russian opposition effectively helps repel putin's attack with weapons in hand. codes, she quoted him, he wrote to himself about it in the telegram channel, and we need to somehow establish this dialogue, because not to speak at all, but it is not known how the situation will return, these are still representatives of the russian opposition, no matter where they are outside of russia, this is the situation today, but how it will return is not clear, then a dialogue to clarify all these things, you say, they are there for two years in prison, maybe they missed a lot, maybe it is necessary to somehow explain what kyiv should do for this, i think that it is necessary to differentiate. and
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work, we must work with the russian opposition, we do not have another russia, another russian opposition, if they are against putin, well, this is at least a point of contact. i don't know, yes, well, this is definitely an inadequate assessment, perhaps a consequence of the disease, maybe we are still living there, mr. volodymyr, but if you say that, as mr. podolyak said, immediately cross yourself, in fact, you are not with a weapon in your hands, i don't agree, i don't share this position, i think it's a wrong position, you know, well, it's a well-known principle, whoever is not with us is against us, this principle is not confirmed by all historical experience. and our partners in the west will not understand this either, so we need to be differentiated to treat the russian opposition, there are people like latynina, for example, and there are some others who are against putin, but who are carriers of imperial views. by the way, to a certain extent , khadarkovskiy, navalny, the late the same,
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were also to a large extent the bearer of imperial sentiments in russia, so it is possible to cooperate with them against putin in limited, let's say, formats. with those who are ready to listen and understand the ukrainian point of view, we need a discussion, we need to discuss, we need to convey our position to them. i think that now we need a more active, active dialogue with first of all, with a part of the russian opposition that is ready for such a dialogue, it is necessary to explain to them that under no circumstances should sanctions against russia be lifted now, but on the contrary, these sanctions should be strengthened, that the weakening of putin's regime is only possible through pos.. strengthening of sanctions, not because of easing, you need support of ukraine, yes, you are not ready to fight, yes, there, for various reasons, they are not ready there, i know, to financially help the armed forces of ukraine, you think that it will be a betrayal of russia, well this is your position yes, but to call the west to a dialogue, in fact
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with the putin regime, well, this means in fact a kapitonian position, with such people, well, it is hardly possible to negotiate, but to explain them? mistakes, demonstrate that they perceive the current political reality incorrectly, inadequately, it must be done, oppositionists with whom, with whom dialogue is possible, these bridges should not be cut down, advice from volodymyr fisenko, this is a reaction to mr. podalyak's statement. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for joining our broadcast. volodymyr fosenko, a ukrainian political scientist, was a guest freedom of the mornings. and before the upcoming presidential elections in the united states, presidential candidate and... vice president kamela harris has widened the gap with donald trump in voter approval, at least this is what a study by the kanzl monitoring company says, that she is supported by 48% of respondents, while trump's 44 , in a week on august 19 , the official nomination of garis as
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a presidential candidate should take place, and she has already chosen her vice presidential candidate, minnesota governor tim waltz. he expressed his support for ukraine from the first days full-scale war. ambassador of ukraine to the usa oksana. markarova speaks of him as a reliable friend of the country, although he has never been to ukraine, however, in the united states tim voluts is not known by the majority of the adult population, at least this is evidenced by a survey by the marisky institute of public opinion, 71% have not heard or do not even know about the governor, at the same time, another republican vice-presidential candidate, jaydivens, has a higher recognition rate of 77%. oleksandr kraiv joins our broadcast. director the north america program of the ukrainian prisma foreign policy council. welcome to our broadcast. thank you for joining. yes, congratulations. good morning we will talk about the ukrainian aspect, because it is obviously interesting to the ukrainian audience. can we really say that tim volz supports ukraine?
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from what i read, in his position as governor, he is not engaged in any international agenda or activity, that is, he could not have made those statements since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, which he did. that is, can it be yours? that his support may be in the future as vice president really important for ukraine? yes, well, it is worth starting with the fact that really, you are right, the governor should not be involved, well, in his position, he is very active in international issues, but at the same time, vols showed a really certain initiative, that is , let's remember that it all started with quite such declarative gestures , for example, the announcement of february 24 as a day of solidarity with ukraine in the state of minnesota. let's remember that he stopped allowing actual businesses operating in the territory of the state of minnesota to enter into contracts investment, or any other, with businesses from russia and belarus, that is, the flow of investments in this direction has completely stopped, he really had quite active relations with our embassy, he really expressed himself at all
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possible platforms and reminded even at speeches completely internal to his the minnesota audience that the issue of ukraine is important, the issue of ukraine is not only about some distant country, but it is... a question about very important things for americans, about freedom of speech, about freedom of choice, about the opportunity to live in a democratic country, that is, clearly for him the issue of ukraine is one of, well, let's say , moral. priorities, and now to your second question, whether we can expect the same position in the future in the post of vice president, it seems to me that it is, although here again a question arises, to which we do not have answers yet: is kamala harris really will distribute responsibilities within her administration in this way, because as we have seen, she herself was a fairly passive vice president under joseph biden, that is, in fact, she simply performed the role of an additional speaker for the white house, whether tim waltz will be an independent vice president. who implements his own agenda, his own policy, and whether he will just be an additional speaker, just like
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haris talked about, time will tell, but the fact that he is pro-ukrainian and what we have in the administration, the potential administration of haris plus one vote for us, this is already a proven fact, because this vice presidential candidate, there is another vice presidential candidate from trump, from the republicans, who we already know about, jay vance, in the pages of the new york times, he stated that in order to turn the tide of the war. in russian-ukrainian, the united states and its allies do not have the ability to produce enough weapons, ukraine does not have enough of an army there to win, so wentz offers the usa to talk to putin about ending the war in ukraine, that is, can we say here that trump's victory is conditional , this means that there will be negotiations, and the victory of harris means that there will be, in principle, a continuation of biden's policy. well, you see, biden's policy has also been that sooner or later negotiations have to happen. to become, therefore to say one hundred percent that harris will not patronize, support or moderate any
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negotiations, we cannot, because one way or another , the politics of biden and the politics of trump differ only in that trump says that negotiations can begin when america wants, and biden says , that the negotiations will begin when ukraine itself says that yes, we are ready to enter into peace negotiations, and here is the main problem, because for the last two months we have only been saying that we are ready to enter into peace negotiations, so ... due to the fact that trump is equal negotiations, we cannot do yet, and i will also reassure our audience a little bit that we need to be aware that, just as i said about the type of work with the vice president in the biden and harris administrations, we also need to be aware of the type of work of the vice president in the trump administration. trump does not share power, we saw this in his business dealings in the 80s and 90s, we saw this in his approach to building his campaign in '16, we saw this during his first... presidential term , we saw that he would not be with his second number to share powers, he will not
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give him the opportunity to speak separately, have his own opinion, and so on. therefore, it is unlikely that vance, who so far looks like a slightly more radical version of trump, is unlikely to have absolute freedom of speech and absolute freedom of action in terms of exactly how to conduct the information policy of the trump administration. so yes, vance looks threatening, vance looks negative. but i don't think he will be very influential, again to him, because he has already managed to do such statements that can be caught, he basically said that the head of the american state should be a person who, quote: understands diplomacy, who understands that america has negotiating leverage, through which in some places it is possible to turn off energy or block access to her where the bad guys in charge of energy policy are. if we talk about such dimensions of international negotiations, international activities , donald trump, for example, has the experience of the presidency in... already has, he dealt with these issues, and if we compare these two teams, then in your opinion, the advantage is on whose
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side? you know, it's hard for me to compare these two teams for one simple reason: these teams are not complete yet, i.e. president, vice president, super, you're right, trump has more experience in this regard, he hasn't always been good enough, but he's really bigger , because harris , in her guise as vice president , acted really as a simple reproduction of biden's position, when biden could not go anywhere... so yes, experience is on trump's side, but harris's side is clearly a better choice team and a wider selection of the team, because if in trump, well, if we recall his first term, a third of the team is sitting, a third of the team is under investigation or testifying, a third of the team does not want to shake his hand anymore, then in harris there are people from the biden administration, there are their deputies, sufficiently experienced people, who for the past four years in the conditions of a full-scale war in europe, in the conditions of an economic crisis, have been conducting this policy, conducting their own policy, that is, harris has someone to choose from, but i will repeat what i said at the beginning, while in
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we only have the president and the vice president, my analysis cannot be complete, because i need at least three more positions for this analysis: the minister of defense, the secretary of state and ranik for national security, because, let's say, my assessment of the harris team will change very much , if god forbid, she will want to leave sullivan, because such a risk still exists for us, mr. oleksandr, we will know more names, when the teams of candidates are ... we will then really discuss, thank you for joining, what remains in ukraine, how not to follow the events in the usa, strategic partner of kyiv, and oleksandr kraev, director of the north america program. foreign policy ukrainian prism was a guest of freedom morning. this issue was like that. many important topics, if you just joined, don't be lazy, scroll back, watch again, share the link to this video with your friends and acquaintances, as well as on your social networks. thank you for your support, likes and comments. let me remind you that svoboda morning is with you every weekday from 9 o'clock on
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story, and a bunch of different stories there up to and including the holodomor, panital, i understand that you... noticed this, did you manage to correct this situation and how? just in the process, well, you described it well, because it is actually one of the very popular encyclopedias in the world, and it has been published for many years, the last 2023, and i was really shocked that in the 23rd year they could publish a book in britain again with russian narratives, and actually it is her in the picture, and there is the main first thing that affects that in the history of the russian... federation in in 908, prince vladimir baptized rus, and you see these main narratives about what ukraine means in ukraine. as we also see in the history of russia the image, if i am not mistaken, of tsar ivan the terrible or some other, and in ukraine a poor man with an inscription
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about the holodomor, again, these are all narratives, it's all twists and turns, and it was strange to me, in fact, that i was the first to address this, i first called the ukrainian embassy in britain, i just happened to be at london bookpayer, where ukraine was also represented, and accordingly, i called the our embassy, ambassador. wrote to this publishing house dk, dorshley kinsley, if i'm not mistaken, and published this publishing house, a large association of penguins, and it did not respond at first, wrote back: well, we will write you back, it was the month of march, and then i started writing a letter, but it is clear when writes, it is still a commercial organization, it is not a governmental one, where the position of the parliament of another state should have political significance, and according to a commercial... organization, i understand that my letter has a recommendation nature, and one thing when a member of parlament writes and mp, and secondly, when there is professional expertise from historians, that is why i
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also turned to the academy of sciences of ukraine, not for the first time, and it was also very strange to hear from the academy of sciences, i will repeat it at the committee from the first academy of sciences, the institute of ukrainian studies answered me, we know about this problem, but we can't do anything, and it's not only this year, but... all the previous ones, and there's nothing to do with the examination, because everything is clear here anyway. i was so shocked that i, it was friday 12 at night, i wrote to two deputy ministers of education and asked why we are holding the academy of sciences, when a profile member of her education committee applies and receives such an answer, what then to say about everyone others? the academy of sciences gave me the answer after contacting deputy minister denys korbatov in ukrainian english, this was the first examination, the second examination was given to me. and shevchenko university, by the way, quickly and efficiently, and i was surprised, and then ivan franko university, unfortunately, er, the ukrainian catholic university did not
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respond, they say that they will still prepare an answer, because they have few specialists since the time of russia , er, it is the russian state, and accordingly, i also spoke with yaroslav gretsyak on this topic, and the kyiv-mohyla academy also said that this is not their authority, although they have it, i know historians of the times who know. it's good on period of the kyivan rus', because the question is whether it is, i believe, that this movement is centered in kyiv, and whether it is a broader definition than just kyivan rus', which is trying to be driven away, and accordingly the question, i also turned, i will say right away, to norman davies, now there are negotiations for him to respond to the examination, he is a british historian who wrote the history of europe, and my assistants and i looked at how he writes and covers the time of this history of ukraine, and... everything is adequate, therefore, accordingly , his examination on this books history of europe we also gave it to the publisher, and accordingly we will also be in talks with timothy snyder, who
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said that this is a common problem, i will think about how to solve it, i can not respond to one book, but i will think more deeply, and also accordingly it is also who we communicate with , further, what is there today, today i still asked many people who told about this topic to write a complaint without... the average publishing house dk, sent the documents with all the expertise, i also applied in writing to the ministry of foreign affairs and the british embassy in ukraine, once again and the embassy of ukraine in britain, respectively, so that everyone who may be involved in this topic is aware, and today the publishing house said that they will revise, because what is important, this encyclopedia does not say, who exactly created this section, there is a general board. on this entire encyclopedia and there are about 30 or 40 surnames, so it is not clear who is responsible for these two pages, we proposed with the embassy to create a working group, including
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british historians, but today they they don't want to create a working group in such a public way, but they said that there will be a review, so after all, the process has started, is moving, so we will be very careful to see what they will propose next, and it was an opening for me, i understood that the... steals our history, but i did not know that this is such a deep question, that it is in every russian textbook, they seem to talk about the existence of novgorod russia with the center of novgorod and that they are the successors of this novgorod russia and that they are key in this whole stories, this is the so-called, if i am not mistaken, the norman format, that the normans founded rus and so on, there are no non-ukrainians and normans and so on, so there are many... many questions, and if we are talking about the publishing house of friendly britain, then what can we then talk about publishing houses of unfriendly countries, and accordingly i put myself in the place of a foreigner who simply
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opened this... encyclopedia to see who russia is, who ukraine is, and, well, how can he perceive whether ukraine has 30 years, or ukraine is more than 1000 years old, how much is it the old state, its traditions, and who was founded first, who, after all, is more important in the history of relations, russia, putin, shoigu, this new minister, all of them, in short, their cabinet, they just have to stand next to the big mirror , look in the mirror. and to say like this: well, we are really normans, normans, that is the aryan race, listen, well, actually, this is really a very deep question of the contexts in which european historians are, i once spoke with mr. oleksandr alfiorov, a famous historian, the author of many history books, pop science, including, and he talked about the fact that there is really a discussion about what
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to call the ancient ukrainian state, kyiv... rus, rus ukraine, rus, and how to transcribe it, for example, on the english language, so that it is not perceived as a part of russia there, because the words are quite similar, this is a point question that it would seem, we are just talking about a book now, but it confirms a wider problem, this is a question of naming, you told in detail that you made a point about your appeals, about this book, and how in general the state can and should communicate about such global humanitarian and educational scientific issues, ugh, this is a very correct, good question, the ukrainian institute currently exists, and they gave me an adequate answer that they will turn to british historians, i still i didn't see any movement in this story, because i didn't contact them in march, in may-june, they should have advocated formulating it, but based on the real and now avo. akim aliyev,
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that is, a person who, in my opinion, is trying, but considering how many of them there are people in the state, how many tasks they have, well, it is unrealistic, that is, in principle, we have to search and change, in particular, and i, there, in particular, mykola knyazhytskyi and a number of other deputies, we submitted a bill to have a ministry of the diaspora, which will also be to be financed abroad by demographic immigration policy, therefore, apparently, if we say that it will be, if it ever does arise, it will be a unification of the ministry and in particular... diasporas, then it is necessary to see whether the ukrainian institute should in the future be under the ministry of foreign affairs and give he has more powers, or it has be in this ministry? well, the bottom line is that there are a lot of countries and very few working groups, but this is a very important narrative, and when it is even during a large-scale invasion , this narrative continues in these countries, this is what we need to change, so this is the key in this story, well, if the ukrainian institute and the ministry of foreign affairs
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need much more power of important hands who will be motivated and who will be able to formulate this other narrative, but also everyone who sees and hears us, do not forget about the influence of civil society, i.e. everyone who reads abroad or in ukraine, write a letter to the appropriate publication, textbooks, we work like this not for the first time, it is also very important, and it works both abroad and in ukraine, because one thing, when someone turns to and another, when you get 30 letters, 50 letters. and it plays a role. yes, it is true, public resistance is important, and we have very little time left, but i would just like to reflect on what we are talking about now, if it were about abroad, but the issue of development remains just as important and relevant strategies, at least clearly delineating the features of what our de-occupation educational policy will look like, how to actually fight for reason
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and vice. for those young ukrainians who have been living in donetsk region and luhansk region for 10 years and in kherson region and zaporizhia region for two years, we believe and hope that the parliamentary profile committee will also develop such a story, and we hope that cooperation with the ministry is we will definitely invite you to talk about this too, because the topic is extremely important broad and important. thank you, ms. natalya, natalya pipa. a people's deputy of ukraine was in touch with us, a representative of the specialized committee of the verkhovna rada on education, news is coming from sumy oblast, the fighting has been going on since then, i meant kursk, in the kursk oblast, which borders the ukrainian sumy oblast, active fighting continues in the area of the judge, and there is even a visual underground.
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