and our government in general is like, you know, mouth watering, it does not comment on anything, even the evening addresses of the president, well, it is very correct, by the way, it was done, he said that ukrainian soldiers carry out the defense of the country using various tools and means and all possible mechanisms, that is, in this context, even this territory , according to recent events, looks very , very serious, you know, because it is tens of square kilometers, if not hundreds. if you look specifically at the square ones kilometers, so i think that ukraine receives, first of all, to some extent, apparently, a distraction from other areas of the front, that is, the russians have to accept certain, it decides for itself what and how to do, and all this is related to defense territorial integrity, state sovereignty of ukraine, i.e. the answer is very clear, by the way, it shows that, in fact, all countries, including our partners, love the strong, but ukraine has demonstrated a very strong position, and accordingly, no one criticizes, no one says that... that something is not

yes, everyone says, no, no, they have every right, they do what they see fit. well, there is the third, most important point, that is, to a certain extent, the transfer of the war to the territory of the russian federation itself, well, it is so much a spit in the face of putin, and by the way, a blow even to the strengthened russian people, because they now do not understand what is happening. in the 22nd year, they started from kyiv about three days ago, and now the person who made the first statement, in fact, well, the so-called simonyan, yes, they have... such a person, she wrote a post today that we pray for kursk there and so on, that's how the situation has changed since the 22nd year, and here, in principle, there are a lot of questions from the side of these russians to the russian government, that it is not effective, that it does not cope there with some responsibilities placed on her, promises and so on, well, there is one more point, we talked about it at the beginning, we talked about it there yesterday, today it is a little less, but it will definitely come up later, here is the story again about the fact that... there are some

privileged military units in russia, like that kadyrivtsev and akhmat, and there are all the others, these can run away, remove some outposts, and they won’t get anything for it, yes, and the others will suffer for everything and right after that they will say to the prisoners that they left everything and fled there, that will be to incite a certain hatred, enmity, including within the various armed formations that are in russia, this is also an extremely very positive moment, well, in the end, we do not know, you know, what is the purpose of all this, like, well, why was all this planned , there can be many options, and a nuclear power plant, and gas distribution node, and many other moments, but the fact that this operation was very well prepared and it was prepared in great secrecy, this no longer causes any doubts, i think, by the way, it resembles the kharkiv operation, at that time it was directly managed by the current commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine is on the ground, so i think that this is only the beginning, we are seeing...

the first stage of something, but what will happen next, well , we will find out in the near future, i hope that it will be very pleasant news, at least there are certain prerequisites for this, already the governor of the kursk region, whether the acting governor oleksiy smirnov said that the russian authorities have organized the evacuation of civilians from the new war zone and are deploying camps for refugees, let's hear what he said from the war zone. aid left the shelling zone by transport. during the day, with our help , several thousand people, all of them are also provided. communities

of sumy district, this is krasnopilsk, mykolayivska, myropivska, yunakovska and khotynska, we are talking about the evacuation of about 600 people, among them 425 children, well, obviously, these are just all these border villages, there already , actually part of the people left, part of the houses of yunakovci, obviously a little later were defeated by the russians, because the same shelling, they all go. years and subversive intelligence groups, also russian ones, enter the territory of sumy oblast and constantly launch drones, mr. viktor, is it felt in sumy that the evacuation is underway, that people are coming from the eastern of these villages and eastern districts, what is happening in the city, how do the people of sumy react to it, what do they say, that is, how do they perceive it. the current

reality, because during the great offensive, thanks to the people of sumy, many military issues were resolved when the russians. tried to go into sums and burned them there, and the partisans were quite active there in february and march, well, what can i say, it is not felt strongly, although resettlement from one community to another takes place within the boundaries of the region the most, although, if someone has there are relatives somewhere further away, then all of them are leaving further, all... my friends have packed suitcases, yes, anxious little suitcases, so as not to run into the incident that happened on february 24, 2022, and everyone is asking each other whether it is time to go or not, but everyone is holding on, and i will even say, i myself

was in khatin last week, i am in one thing, well, i can tell the project of the international organization of migration, we transport, including the affected households. rome kits, well, such usb plates, so that you can hide the holes in the roof, there in windows, that's all, that's all, that's why i talk to those people, and a lot of people who left, got registered as refugees, got help and came back, including with children, well, i'm wary of such mothers, well, in the same well, the house, when i look, there is a mother with her four children, she has many children, there is a guy there... why don't you go? well, we traveled, they gave us a room in a dormitory somewhere, we were bored there, uninteresting, but we came back, and there are many of them, first of all, of course, old people, and mothers are only those who, well, if, i would say, not quite adequate, because keeping children in a five-kilometer

zone, well, it is, well, it is, at least , irresponsible, but there are a lot of old people, i also have one group member... there is a mother there in young girl there, mother, i’m coming, i have everything at home, the cup is full, i’m coming, and mother says, where am i going to take the duckling, the ducklings have already been taken, the children are growing up, well, this is our people, we don’t have anything else, but now elders and policemen are forcibly passing through all the villages and at least children are taken away from families with children, and i believe that this is correct this is the correct action of the government. the government acts very correctly, very adequately, very sensibly, the same taryanik there, this head of the khotyn community, what kind of people, to whom a monument should be erected during their lifetime, the elders of those settlements in these villages, who do not wear uniforms,

but they perform feats every day, and yes, and the government itself, the regional military administration, controls the situation very little, and what is worse, there is absolutely no feedback either with the mass media or with the public sector, that is, well, absolutely , absolutely behaves extremely poorly in terms of communication, but it used to be somehow better, but its communities have cooperation with military units that enter, they are actually stationed there, well, the communities have, they are the eyes... the communities beat in first of all, they hit until they knock down all the towers of mts kyivstar, why would they then, and there are no such soviet telephones there, in fact, somewhere in the ten-kilometer

zone, the communication stops working, well, it is simply not there he is still bad on the phone but i have very bad, very weak internet. now i'm there praying that i won't be kicked out of your broadcast, but if the closer to the front, the less communication, well, the less likely it is, somewhere like that, well, i'm following the message that's going on, what's happening in kurshchyna , they write about the fact that the russian top military officer yevgeny poddubny was killed there with an fpv drone, he had 700,000 subscribers and... in particular, they show his last stream there , which he conducted from the kursk region. by what is happening on kurshchyna, because the news is so unexpected

and sometimes very dramatic and fast, and this clearly shows that the deeper you go into russia, the easier it is. the ukrainian army to enter, because obviously in most regions we are not talking about kursk oblast or bilhorod oblast or voronev oblast, because there are still military personnel stationed there. but inside the state, obviously, they did not expect that ukrainians would enter, but we will return to another question, because what is happening now, these events are unfolding in kursk oblast, they are taking place against the background of the fact that the ukrainian authorities say that there will be the next peace summit, we are ready to see the russians, and we are ready to talk with them, or at least to discuss the options for peace in ukraine, whether it will be the capitulation of the russian federation, it is unknown,

will it be some kind of neutral option to stop the war, but in all these conversations, and after these conversations, the russians are saying, wait, there is putin, he said that we will determine it on the ground at that time, when we negotiate the situation on the ground will determine everything. we have proposals, you give us four oblasts, because they are already in the russian constitution, plus crimea, and accordingly, the armed forces of ukraine leave there. shoigu, while in iran, said that we did not receive a response from the ukrainians to our proposals, but simply put, to putin's ultimatum to ukraine. is it possible, mr. igor, to consider that with kurshchyna, the ukrainians responded to... putin, and we are also ready for negotiations on the situation on the ground. well,

see, to some extent, because we, why i say to some extent, because we don't know how it will end and what the strategic plan is, it definitely is, you don't know, some kind of border raid, as we sometimes saw it from the russian volunteers who did it, yes, they then they focused more on some kind of information support, on showing that they entered something with... hit there and left, here the situation is completely different, the results there, i don’t know, are hundreds of times greater than the raids of volunteer russian units then , and in fact there is a certain informational silence, so it can be element, including such a game that putin likes to play very much, well, the russians are constantly stepping on the same rake, that this game can be played by two people, and actually it is now played by two people, starting from the fact that drones can fly to you, and drones can also... hit your power plant and refineries, and missiles can fly to you and hit yours, well, we hit military

facilities, unfortunately, they hit everywhere, and in the same way, your territory may end up under the control of certain armed forces, because i say once again that ukraine officially does not recognize anything yet, but this is a very good position, by the way, it is a position that is capable of changing to some extent, including the opinion of our partners, who are leaning on this ultimatum. putin, now they will see that, in fact, this is nothing more than words, and it is possible to really turn this situation in a completely different direction, which to some extent ukraine is doing now, so let's see how it will go further, what it will actually be there to be completed, but it seems that with such actions, ukraine has finally buried any claims of russia on this the phrase that we will sit down at the transition table only on the condition, on the condition that, well... it will be taken into account where the front line is, by the way, you know this, it also reminded me of such an interesting story, once molotov,

i think, yes , he flew to germany even before the beginning, before the year 41, but the second world war was already going on, and hitler was trying to give the impression there that he had everything under control, they were winning the war and so on, but then the alarm sounded, they went to the bomb shelter and the british aircraft bombed berlin itself, and at that moment. oh well they were not mass raids, but they were, and then molotov asked who would win from whom, why are we then sitting in a bomb shelter? here is a very similar story: russia is so eager to show its partners that they have everything under control, that these countries, such as china and others, must support their position, that we must on this demarcation line, even not only on it, further , so that ukraine would give us the territory, but it turns out that the king is naked, that in fact now russia is losing hundreds of square kilometers of its territory, which... was in it is there in accordance with all treaties as of 1991, it is a very beautiful

picture, and i am convinced that there are people in beijing and in many other capitals of countries who are looking closely at this situation and thinking about participating or not participating there in some future peace summit, their position changes to some extent, that is, they understand that ukraine is absolutely not in the situation that russia tells them about, and russia, in turn , is absolutely not as strong as they would like, well... .to demonstrate what picture to draw. the situation is actually very is very different. mr. viktor, putin has repeatedly said that if something threatens russia's national security. if there is such a real threat, then we can , in accordance with the current legislation , use nuclear weapons there, well, they constantly talked about it, they talked about it when it came to crimea, it was about other regions that are supposedly in the russian constitution, what measures can to leave putin, given his

voracious character, the fact that he is a people... who grew up in the courtyards of st. petersburg and who is used to answering a blow with a blow, i has always said that putin, backed into a corner, will be able to use nuclear weapons, at least tactical, but in this case, in this situation , he will not use them and that you will show everyone once again that they are only swinging a baton there, they are only shouting, i'm a fool, i'm here... i'm loaded with a grenade now or a whore, well, we'll die there, that's all it is, well, it's a hoax for foreigners, and you don't have to believe these hoaxes, there won't be any major escalation, and this is really a very politically balanced step, i don't know how martial law, i also think that there is

some kind of military plan there, but politically, if we showed yes, that... we can, okay, let's exchange sudzh for energodar, yes, we're your regional center , you're ours, it's profitable for us energy gift, and the direction of the attack on the chick was probably chosen from the same position, so you took away one nuclear plant from us, well, we will try you, but you must understand that for a deep russian , they very clearly distinguish, well

, russian land, and here they will be, they will be act only in this way, they will купировать сейчас this offensive, and then they will push it out, and that is why it is a correct and possible solution from a military point of view, why, because now instead of throwing in a fresh brigade, they will throw some brigade there in the direction of pokrovsky, where even though they are careful there, but there is progress, yes, and now it is necessary to boast that the sacred russian land is necessary. they will allow this and that in the military plan, well, we do not know the whole idea of ​​our and the syrian general staff, but it is thought that this is, well, the right decision, and that it is political the right decision is there in all of these, we really showed that not everything is so good in russia, and not everything is as bad in us as they say, and that it

is too early to write off ukraine, well, again, it is an internal one... an internal one to our kitchen, yes , now there, and zelenskyi and syrskyi will score some points for themselves, because everyone is satisfied with the fact that after all, trouble has come to them as well, as everyone, as many dreamed, although, well, how for the residents of sumy have little to be happy about, because now we will probably be in a slightly worse situation, being 30 km away from the epicenter of all these... actions, but in the meantime , summing up, yes, there is nothing, russia will not invent a nuclear escalation, it will not be for sure , but they will violently squeeze out there now, and to show that they have liberated the holy russian land, they have recaptured it, and they will probably enter now further, that is, we will have a plus one

front, i still wanted to say from a military point of view to expand. e front line is more beneficial to those who have more resources, at least technical capabilities, and well, it would seem that it is them when expanding the front line, yes, they are actually expanding the flanks, it is more profitable for them, but we do not know everything, and maybe on the contrary it is better for us now to expand the front, we may also have some reserves for the accumulated, now theirs, again there with.. it will be more difficult for danube-16 and their planes to fly there, because they are under attack, well , we will know about the military only there, what was the military ass. only with time, whether it was a demonstration after all, or whether we are serious, that is, how much we will hold on to this now enthusiastic judge. thank you mr victor

matthew miller, the spokesman for the state department of the united states of america, pointed out the irony of putin's statement that the current events in the kursk region are a provocation of ukraine. miller says that the united states of america is in contact with the ukrainians regarding the events in the kursk region, but they will not comment on the... ukrainian side, i have seen the message from the russian authorities, on their part, it is ironic to call it a provocation, considering that russia has violated the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine since 2014. mr. igor, the last question for today is about how the russians will use the situation in kursk oblast to speak on international platforms, look how you can live with them, they attacked... us in their own style bring these issues to the council without the un, to other international platforms? well , look, they already did it, that is, there was

a statement by this alka of the atsh of the ministry of foreign affairs of zakharova, yes , the russian one, who said that this was some kind of terrorist act, a provocation, an attack on the civilian population, putin told about some indiscriminate blows, well, listen, this person, well, in quotation marks, the person tells about some indiscriminate blows or. russia has been doing it since 2014, not even since the 22nd year, after the 22nd year, it just does it en masse, that is, they have already rolled out this story, spread it out, thrown it into the information space, according to the full program, and on the way out they got a snit, well look, europe has reacted, the official statement of the spokesperson of the european commission, it is said that ukraine has the right to self-defense, this, by the way, corresponds to the charter of the united nations and in that includes well, there is the conduct of actions not only on its own territory, but also on the territory of the country that carries out aggression, and russia is such a country that is recognized even at the level of the un. the united states and the russians

fasted for several hours and wrote appeals, in fact, to the united states, so that they would somehow react to this, but there is a reaction, it is absolutely not what the russians expected, it is very clear and absolutely in support of ukraine, that is, the door is also open here can be closed nothing will happen here, they can somehow twist the un, the security council, let's say the un, but there is a problem here, because those provisions of the statute, including the right to self-defense, it can be used by ukraine, for example, in order to completely calmly repel this informational attack there in some way, er, here, by the way, ukraine could make a general horse move and, for example, to announce a special military operation there in the border... in the regions of the russian federation to create a sanitary zone and so on, well, in principle, we have not done this yet, so that, well, it would be possible to hit the russians, including

with these slogans, which they actively used, well, by manipulating them, that is , it was again possible to show that the whole game can be played together, and the final moment, they have a certain calculation on other countries, let's unite them again, the global south, yes, although it is clear , that this is a broader story, and they will disperse it as much as possible there, say, you see... really, how can we negotiate, we were attacked and so on, but again, well, they are not stupid people sitting there, they see the situation , they will perfectly understand what is happening, they will see the position of other countries that support ukraine, and their conclusions, they definitely will not benefit the russian federation, that is why they lost this informational component immediately at the stage, and we especially did not even do anything against it, it turned out just like that, and for them it ended, well, by and large, a fiasco , so it will not have any other consequences. for them, this is already a played out story, they will have to come up with something new, and since their hands are very tied, they will not come up with anything new, especially. thank you, mr. igor, igor reiterovych and viktor boberenko

were broadcast on our channel. thank you, gentlemen , for participating in the program. and i will remind our tv viewers that throughout our broadcast we conduct a survey, asking you whether there are good russians useful for ukraine. let's look at the results of the television survey. 18%. yes 82% no on youtube we have the following ratio 25% yes 75% no. friends, i will put an end to this, it was a verdict program conducted by serhiy rudenko, i wish you all good health, take care of yourself and your relatives, see you tomorrow at 20:00, there will be a new verdict, there will be new guests, there will be new topics, come, it will be interesting, goodbye.

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iryna koval. today. invited oksana vegovska, infectious disease doctor, professor, dean of bogomolets medical university to our studio. oksana, i congratulate you, but probably not everyone knows that you are not only a doctor and professor and dean, but also a volunteer, so today i want to talk to you about this experience of yours. congratulations. i want to start our conversation precisely from february 24, 2022, so that you remember where you were, what you were doing and did you think that everything would be exactly as it was? well, i think that everyone remembers this day, and i don't exception, on this day i...