of the kursk region , no one can say for sure what is happening there, because there is a message from the ministry of defense of the russian federation, they say that the defense forces of ukraine entered the territory of the kursk region and went deep into the russian federation for 10-15 km, they say about 10 - the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine has not yet commented on the 11 settlements that the ukrainians took control of, and this is quite possible. to understand, there are only reports that in the villages bordering kursk oblast in sumy oblast there is an evacuation, there are those who are close to the border, how do you see this whole situation, that is, the war is returning to the place from where it came to ukraine, well, i don’t know where it is returning from, obviously, this is some plan of the ukrainian military command, i ... trusts the ukrainian military

command, since the military command itself does not comment on it in any way, and does not even say that it is the ukrainian army, and the russian public writes more about it, then i think that now it is better for us to be silent and watch it , as dozens seem in captured russian servicemen, as ukrainian troops enter there, and they themselves place these so-called, so-called russian soldiers from the country of the aggressor, since we are silent, i guess why we are silent... why, because first of all, we are with you do not know this plan, secondly, we have seen that kirby, the spokesman of the white house, has already said that they will find out with ukraine what is happening there, that they do not support the use of foreign, in particular, american weapons on the territory of the russian federation, that their position here has not changed, unfortunately, we have not we have full understanding from our allies to the end, although they help us a lot, for which we are very grateful to them, but still from... our responsibility and

our decisions, if the ukrainian military command made such a decision, it means that they have some plan, why they are doing this, i hope it is not just for the sake of pr, as it was sometimes, and it is also sometimes necessary, for the sake of a strategic plan, we saw that they occupied this gas distribution station, which is a small ob object, but still after all, the supply of gas to europe depends on him, russian gas, which continues to be supplied, there is also a nuclear power plant, putin himself was absolutely nervous, demoralized and frightened by this, because he did not expect this from the ukrainian army, we saw it directly from his reaction, this means that this operation of the ukrainian army already has certain advantages, and we will see what happens next, trusting the ukrainian command. russian officials and putin also, mr. mykola, quite often talk about the fact that we can consider various options to discuss... during

the negotiations, but we have to take into account the realities on the ground. now it turns out that the realities on the ground may be completely different than what putin thought when he stated this thesis. shoigu this week, literally two days ago, said that the ukrainians, unfortunately, did not respond to putin's proposal, well, regarding the four regions, and the withdrawal of the armed forces of ukraine from the four regions and the subordination of these regions. russian federation. in these conditions , zelenskyy talks about preparing for another peace summit, about peace proposals and the possible participation of the russian federation. you don't know what zelensky's peace plan should be, because we have already seen one peace plan, it is 10 points that were prepared for the first summit of the mayor, three of them were considered. is it clear now what other offers there might be? in order to discuss,

including with the representative of the russian federation , at the next peace summit. you know, right now i would really like to be wrong, because i want peace, like most ukrainians, and i am ready to support any efforts of the ukrainian authorities to achieve peace, but i still do not see any desire on the part of the russian federation to talk about any kind of peace, the fact that the ukrainian authorities send some signals, hold these peace summits. it seems to me, well , this is more of a pr campaign both for ukrainian society and for the outside world, which is necessary, because we need external support, i have nothing against it, the fact that so many countries continue to stand with us, realizing that this we are dealing with enemies, so it is of course extremely important for us, but at the same time i am not i see some, i hear that everyone is talking about the upcoming elections. about negotiations, but i still

don't see the grounds for them and i don't understand how it can be solved, i don't believe that the ukrainians will agree to, well, it's not even putin's proposals, it's putin's bullying to destroy. ukraine, regardless of who it is, zelensky or not zelensky. i do not believe that the ukrainians will agree to this, and most importantly, i do not believe that our western allies who support us, who have already invested a lot of money in our defense, and this means investment in our the future, to our future in the european union, to our future in nato, no matter what anyone says, but i am convinced that western support is very important, and why do these conversations take place, there is a lot of conspiracy around these topics, that someone somewhere agreed, putin is already falling. i would like that, i tell you sincerely, but i also think that it is so, that putin wants some kind of negotiations, but in reality i do not see it. while the war continues, and this war also continues in the information sphere, mr. mykola, in march of the 24th year you

initiated the adoption of the draft law on regulation of the information platform or the telegram platform in ukraine, nikita poturaev, the head of the verkhovna rada committee on information policy, literally the day before yesterday in an interview with rbc ukraine, called the government's use of the telegram platform for communication with society a mistake and spoke in favor of regulating the activities of this platform, as poturaev says. i don't see any other option, how not to lose the information war, the war in general, except to write a fairly simple bill, the essence of which will be that either the world... or the platforms establish dialogue with the ukrainian authorities, or the state simply shuts them down, in other words, mr. mykola, mr. poturaev supports your bill, i understood correctly, he supports your ideas, because he fully lists everything that is said in our bill with him, where it

is co-author, but he says that it should not be written, it has been written for a long time and is in the committee, well, nikita and i are politically and geopolitically, i would say that we are like-minded, because he is on... they say that he belongs to the ruling party, and i belong to the opposition, and the authorities have such an attitude to of all his deputies, so that no draft law of the opposition, at least of european solidarity , is considered and passed in the hall, it is enough to put any other name there and it will be considered, and from european solidarity they will not, and obviously nikita, supporting what is written in to my draft law, it cannot be put to a vote even in the committee, unfortunately, therefore, just as it was with the church when i initiated... the ban on the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, then, unfortunately, my draft law was not put to the vote, the government's was submitted without teeth , we his everyone has already finalized it, in principle i am also in favor of the result, i am not against everyone working on it together, but before it comes to that, before the ideas that my colleagues and i will propose for the protection of the information space will be implemented and will reach to

the authorities to support them, rewrite them and pass them off as their own, a very long time has passed, in the conditions of war, from my point of view, it is unacceptable, unacceptable, mr. mykola, and to... delay the decision regarding the regulation of the activities of the moscow church in ukraine two weeks ago the verkhovna rada of ukraine could not consider this bill in the second reading. ruslan stefanchuk announced the work, a break in the work of the verkhovna rada until august 19, or as of today, august 7 , 2024, is it already known whether this will be. the bill, or the law, or rather, the second reading of the bill, will be considered on august 19 or 20, and the dots of hope will be placed, we will do everything for this, we blocked the podium, we will continue and block on august 19 to demand consideration of the bill, they

throw in huge money roc supporters who there they cooperate with novinsky, with other pro-ukrainian-pro-russian, ukrainian oligarchs, pro-russian che... i don’t know how to say, some of them are sitting in the verkhovna rada, they are fighting to prevent the bill from passing, our goal is for it to pass, because here such a unique situation that a large part of the government also supports it, and i am grateful to every representative of the government who voted for it, stood with us near the podium, or how nikita peturaev defends this bill at all conciliation councils, so i hope that we will have enough together to the representatives of all factions, because here you see the fathers are representatives of freedom and... a servant of the people and the voice, and for the future, and obviously of our european solidarity, we all stand together here, there are not only former parties of the opzzh, and i think we have enough, we and so there were enough votes, and we will manage to do everything to get this bill passed, this does not mean banning the uoc-mp tomorrow, but it

means banning ties with the russian church and a gradual process of severing those ties, and then banning those who do not wanted to break these ties with the moscow church. if this does not happen, then suddenly this draft law will be postponed again for consideration, how does this threaten ukraine and the national security of ukraine? well, listen, they continue to act as a fifth column inside ukraine, we can see it perfectly, every day the security service of ukraine, well, not every day, but every week definitely arrests some russian priest who surrenders our positions, not to mention that huge ideological struggle, which they lead against ukraine and ukrainians, and the fact that sometimes sociology does not please us very much when we talk about patriotism, recently this is all the underground work of the russian church in ukraine, and the sbu directly writes about it, calling it... a threat to national security, we think the same, and we want to support both the special services of ukraine and

all patriots of ukraine who believe that it is simply immoral , so that gundyaev's russian church would continue to operate in ukraine. another thing is that anyone who breaks all ties with her and wants to be independent is obviously not in danger. and they pay money and lie in the west, as if ukraine is fighting christianity here, nothing like that there is no ukraine is fighting the russian church, which is under. the fsb of the russian army must be banned by the russian church, as the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe and many other organizations have determined, as they have done in latvia, in many other european countries, it is absolutely unacceptable that a branch of the russian army continues to kill us spiritually from the inside, when our children, in the literal sense of the word , fight and sacrifice their lives in the east of ukraine. a few more scandals or... scandals with such a corrupt flavor as we are we have been watching for the past few

weeks, this is the story of okhmadit, when they tried to give the collected money to one of the companies whose offer was one of the most expensive for 300 million, 307 million uah, after a public outcry, the minister of health announced that the tender would be canceled and held again , now here... our fellow journalists are writing about the fact that the ministry of education put a cash register, as they say , on printing textbooks at a super inflated price, and we are talking about 180 million hryvnias in the same printing house that was once upon a time tabachnyk, that is, three publishing houses were merged into one, called the atlant publishing house and tries to print textbooks there at inflated prices, again journalists write about it. why are there so many of these stories and why are

journalists telling us about these stories and not anti-corruption bodies? well , i think that anti-corruption bodies are also telling, they are doing their job, we see it, maybe obviously not the way we would like, and journalists are doing their job the way we would like, or at least we would like it even better, but they work hard and fulfill their duty, this gives us hope for a good future for our country. all this is due to the fact that the journalists wrote about it, ngl media, as far as i can see behind the page, you will tell me, yes, the portal, and it is obvious that the journalists are just doing their job, and this is happening because there is no supremacy in the country right, it was possible to turn off the channel with espresso from the air with one order without any grounds, reasons, just like the other direct fifth channels there, and please for... wanted to disperse the parliament, please wanted not to implement the law, please wanted to adopt a law contrary to the regulations,

please wanted not to vote for the laws of the opposition or to command from the office of the president, the cabinet of ministers, you know, all this or to have in positions all these advisors of the office of the president, who are nowhere they work, they do not report to anyone, but they teach everyone how to live, they teach everyone, everyone go immediately to the army, say these dozens of advisers who are hiding without an army without... on the basis they ride, rest on the southern seas, this is how it works, unfortunately it is the absence of the rule of law, and if the rule of law is absent on the mountain, then obviously it will be absent in every official who works in this or that ministry, in this or that fund, for him human money means nothing, he lives like the last day, so that the government lives like the last day, because the government spits on the law and spits on the law, this does not mean that zelensky himself is there, relatively speaking, or yermamak himself is there, a suitcase... they carry earned money, maybe they do, maybe not, i i did not catch them, i do not know this, and i have such data

no, but the fact that the government is built on monopoly, on the violation of the principle of separation of powers, this obviously demoralizes the whole society, because it means that you can do anything, then you can steal, and this is the biggest problem, which is certainly shameful, because it well, it is shameful from an international point of view, we talk about european integration, we talk about international aid, we ourselves give a reason to the enemies... to talk about the fact that we have corruption everywhere here, to all these american, anti-ukrainian figures who are always saying that we do not need to give weapons, and such a lot, because russia finances all of them, our... snarky, absolutely irresponsible, petty officials, who really steal not a little, contribute to all this and thereby destroy ukraine. so, in order to preserve ukraine, we must first of all establish the supremacy of right and responsibility, starting from the president and ending with the last state official, then it will work. thank you, mr. mykola, for the conversation, it was mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine.

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zapasu, deputy head of the sbu in 2014-15, director of the reform agency. security sector, mr. general, i welcome you, thank you for joining the air, yes, good evening, let's start our conversation with the situation that is currently developing in kurshchyna, because the russians have already made many statements and the ministry of defense of the russian federation, today putin commented on the situation, said that this is some kind of provocation by the defense forces of ukraine, a clear answer from we don't have the ukrainian side yet, but we understand that there are obviously reasons for not speaking and not commenting officially, what are those reasons in your opinion, well , reasons why we can't, and that's how the russians once tried enter the kharkiv region and they did not know what their achievements would be,

tactical or strategic, and now we have entered the enemy's territory, and it is necessary to understand whether we... executed our plan tactically, i.e. distracted the enemy's attention, managed to ensure the diversion of some of their reserves, i digress, diverted attention from the more serious tasks facing them in the donetsk region, in the kharkiv region, and whether we can achieve some strategic tasks, in particular, i don't know, to take control there, for example, the kursk nuclear power plant. and why, why can someone put the nuclear power plant under control, why can't we take it? we wanted to, you see, we just need to stop playing quixotic and tell that we are already going within the framework of the geneva conventions and do not cross the border, but we have a state border, we do not cross the state border, i said a long time ago and also this this

was not even in the 22nd year, but even earlier that... russia, ensuring the security of rear towns at a distance of 15-20 km simply does not exist, and ukraine can repeat what we saw from the prigozhin colony, when his column calmly, without any tension, took control of the city, in which the entire headquarters of the rostov military district was located, and the column almost reached the tula. therefore, i think that if ukraine set itself the goal of a combat, combat brigade raid on the enemy's rear, it would be great. mr. general, judging by putin's reaction, he did not expect such a development, and this means that they did not prepare at all for the fact that the territory of the russian

federation could come to the territory of the russian federation and the war that they started in ukraine. in 2014, after 10 years, this war has already come there, do russians feel, do they understand what is happening in their state, well, as of now, well, except of course the residents of the suzhan district and the kursk region in general, or is it possible influence psychologically on the russians, in other regions, will they understand that from... unfortunately, no, unfortunately, they do not understand anything, and except for those who directly found themselves in some unpleasant situation there, yes, there , someone up there. be a building, or someone was hit by drones, artillery, everyone else will simply ignore them, on the contrary , they will say, these are your problems, in russia there is no

civil society, in russia there is no mutual respect and support of the region of the region, everyone is for himself there, so i think that all this will remain. .. as it is, that is , only those people who saw it directly, or received something there from ukraine, others will simply ignore all these events, the head of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, general budanov, says that until in the summer of 25, russia will face a dilemma, either to end the war against ukraine or to announce a large-scale mobilization, i quote mr. budanov, who... gave a speech to the graduates of the kyiv school of economics, the enemy understands that if the protracted war continues, then no later than in the summer of the 25th year

, russia will face a dilemma, either to stop all this, or to announce a repeated large-scale mobilization, you, mr. general, in your opinion, will russia have enough time to fight in ukraine for a long time and from what, from what factors depend, well... they have enough money until the end of the year, that's for sure, because all the decrees that were signed by putin or his henchmen in the regions, they concern the provision of funds for mobilization, well , until the end of the year, everything else, in they really have no money, the economy will start in the 25th year, maybe stagnation will begin, this is the end of the 25th year, and mobilization is necessary. to make some decisions, because volunteers and those who are paid for money are running out, a replenishment that can not just fill the gaps that are

in the army, actually switch to the accumulation of reserves there, maybe not even tactical, but strategic, and there will be an offensive in certain areas, these are all simply absent now, they are simply operating those units, shooting from one area. front to another and in this way they are trying to hold back the intensive feigned offensive that they are carrying out at the expense of meat assaults, this will all soon end, listen, since october, in fact , they have been at this pace for almost a year, well, no army simply can withstand. mr. general, the main intelligence agency confirmed the ukrainian operation on tenders... the spit in the northern part of the sea, according to intelligence data , on the night of august 6, an amphibious group of special forces landed on the spit and destroyed enemy armored vehicles and there were

losses among russians, before that ukrainian drones attacked the russian airfield morozovsk , so-34s and ammunition depots were destroyed there, there was also information that... forbes publishes that ukraine lost the chance to destroy dozens of su-34s due to the prohibition of the united states of america to strike on its territory russian federation. how do you assess the deployment of these hostilities on the territory of the russian federation, but the special operations that we conduct, how successful are they, how sufficient are they, how are they improving in... as a professional, how do you look at it? well, look, the fact that they are improving is clear, because we saw what happened in morozivka, we saw the quality of

the strikes and that not only equipment was destroyed there, but also ammunition, i hope that the strikes that we carry out by the russian oil refining enterprise federations, they are also improving, the latest information was that we could take off... fly there already 200 km away, so everything that can be done with the help of our military equipment, which is exclusively ours and is based on our developments , then we do that, as for the other thing, there is permission, not permission to use military equipment and ammunition against the ammunition of our partners, well, unfortunately, i think that sometime after ... years after the end of this war, er, some historians have asked the right questions , i don't know if there will be answers to them, why exactly

that's what we did and why we came. to what we have, in your opinion, why our western partners still restrain ukraine, they want to conduct a dialogue with the russian federation, as we see during the exchange of russian oppositionists, for killers and spies, and this dialogue is clearly conducted between interstate or between special services, they do not want to lose this dialogue, they are afraid of the ungovernability of the russian federation. they fear that the russian federation will use nuclear weapons. is there any logical explanation why ukraine does not allow the use of western weapons for strikes on the territory of the russian federation? they do not want the complete destruction of russia. they are afraid of the destruction of russia, they do not understand what will happen after russia begins to fall. and they are really afraid that nuclear weapons will be uncontrolled. if somebody from russia...

took responsibility, said i control nuclear weapons, and i'm not going to let them spread over there, i don't know, to other newly independent states, i think the west would put that person and disintegration russia and the completion of all those processes that began here at the beginning of the 20th century ended peacefully, and this is how the situation will go... with such heart-breaking jumps, and it is not known how it can actually end, until the west understands that russia in this form, in which it is, it is not a partner and not capable of negotiation, such, not even a state, i don’t know, a conglomerate, until then we will have in such and such a situation, two steps forward, four back, two to the side, and such the dance

around russia will be about... these dances, mr. general, continue, and i do not know whether believe this information, which was spread by the russians, in particular through the mouth of deputy minister of foreign affairs serhiy ryabkov, that the ukrainians were preparing an assassination attempt on vladimir putin on the day of the navy of the russian federation on july 28, but on july 12 belousov , the minister of defense of russia, called lloyd austin the minister. of defense of the united states of america asked him not to beat ukrainians during the military parade in st. petersburg and not to arrange an assassination attempt on putin. a fragment of what ryabkov said. now we will listen. i can say that according to some signs, the signal is directed from the russian side to washington, and as i understand it, no...

mr. general, can we trust what the russians say? listen, well, this is an information operation of the russian federation, which was based solely on their information and solely on the fact that they... well, listen, well , who understands the security system and understands who is responsible for what, well, what is the meaning of what you say to the minister of defense austin, who what, what he can, he at his level can call umerov, and what umerov, umerov delivers in the armed forces are potatoes, and not even always weapons, you understand, if it were a conversation, i don't know gerasimov and the leader there.

of the united states joint staff, well then it is clear that it would be a conversation with sirskyi and sirskyi was warned that listen, well, somehow something will stop there, and you just know it, about nothing, this is a confirmation of their narratives that ukraine is under full control of the united states, and on every call it does any russian bidding there that can affect the united states, it's all a bluff and... and definitely not true, that's why i took it all in stride, especially the fact that someone there was going to hit him with drones, well, these are his personal problems, mr. general, i already mentioned this exchange that took place between the russian federation and western countries last week, is this behind-the-scenes diplomacy or these behind-the-scenes

negotiations. do they testify to what?