a member of the russian opposition to emigration, a well-known video blogger, ex-detat of the state duma, glory to ukraine. mark, nice to see you. glory to the heroes, i am happy to welcome all the viewers, congratulations anton. the attempt on ilya ponomarev, so we understand that the enemy used shakhet this time. well, accordingly, this immediately raises many questions, and perhaps hints at many answers, when we talk about the so-called strange arrivals, and this, of course, can apply not only to the current situation, for... what time, well, but in the kremlin in any case, they typed a note of water and nothing about it they speak as for the attempt on ilya ponomarev, it was completely predicted, among the people whom the kremlin would like to destroy, and among russian emigrants, oppositionists, ilya ponomarov occupies an honorable place, and not only him, there are several others. moreover, there is operational information provided by the services that provide the project, which are actively looking for ways to... destroy some effective part

of russian oppositionists abroad, regarding a certain number of people, this is known, it is not a secret, especially since the house of ilya ponomarova in the kyiv region, drones already flew in, it’s hard for me to say anything about the technical side, maybe kyiv region is more difficult to cover with air defense means, kyiv itself is like that, and to prevent strikes on kyiv region, the means may not be enough, and the danger is higher there, but ponomarov’s address was not a secret, they had already flown there drones, shahedis. edge 2, as they are called there, so this is not news, there is something else: he came, as far as i understand, to kyiv, spent the night at home, they could have informed some agency that he was in the house, i know that he is in america was a drone they are sent when they want to kill a specific person, not destroy a building. so, they receive some operative information from some agency, possibly in kyiv. ilya ponomaryov is writing to me just now, so i think that, most likely, such attempts will continue in the future.

for this it is possible, at a distance, with the help of drones, and somewhere there will be assassination attempts, some people will be sent, what is important here, it would seem, why do you want to kill him, what is his danger or the same ones, this is a completely wrong assessment, they do not evaluate from the point sight specific dangers that arise from a political leader, they need to demonstrate to everyone that you will not do this, support ukraine, promote russian connections, oppose putin as his enemies, spread information. about what moscow is producing in ukraine and not only, it needs to be demonstrated, this is the main goal, not a specific danger from an individual person, just like there was no danger from navalny, especially when he was in prison, but his it was necessary to kill, there it was connected with the exchange, there it is still necessary to demonstrate to everyone what will happen to you if you join any activity at any level against the regime in moscow, well, ukraine is the enemy. they

simply kill ukraine, and the russian opposition are the same enemies and the same targets. it is necessary to draw very important conclusions from this. therefore, the defense of ukraine, as i often say among my colleagues, russian oppositionists, is the redoubt before your death. it is necessary to defend ukraine, in addition to your ideological positions against the war and against putin, also because you will be next, this is very important understand. therefore, the country is for the russian opposition, for everyone who is against putin. postpone your death. failure to understand this leads to very sad attempts to save some of the russian opposition in the possibility of its protection is a possibility game imposed by the kremlin, that it is impossible to support the military resistance of the russians on the side of ukraine, because it is vlasivshchyna, treason to the motherland. it's a very misleading, very criminal reference, and people who take it will be recruited sooner or later, it's very important to understand that. list parameters mark and... to

specifically, in your opinion, they wanted to demonstrate something with this attempt, yes, because strange murders happen in ukraine, the strange murder of iryna farion, yes, no one took responsibility, there is a suspect, but the question of motives is the key story, yes, and when certain assassinations, political assassinations happen, someone has to take this responsibility, or the second option, maybe, really, if it's a handiwork. well, then they can simply prepare some broader scenario, i.e. cascading deaths and, accordingly , then an attempt to reformat the same one, i i don't know, public discourse, or simply correcting it in this way, they have always been engaged in this, correcting the consequences of the physical removal of some public elements that interfere and create problems for the discourse, this is part of this program, this work, ipso and the rest. many people do not

understand the connection between these things, for example, the discourse that opposes the negotiation process as such in ukraine, because they have their own considerations, it is mainly the right discourse, but not only it. consists in the fact that one cannot stop at binding conditions agreements, to the ultimatums that moscow puts forward. it is now necessary to create the most comfortable situation so that in ukraine this is not a defining thesis in public opinion. that is, if you, for example, are strongly pressured by the radicals, let's tentatively call them that, from the side of moscow, then this public opinion can be exposed in the right direction. moscow needs negotiations, it needs a cease -fire, a truce, etc., because there are conditions, both external and... and internal, internal we do not fully understand, perhaps moscow's reserves to continue the war is ending, and it is more and more difficult to fight further, for many reasons and the number of people who want to go to war has decreased, industry, defense is unknown, how it works, all this is a secret, but what

nabibulina, the head of the central bank, declares, already provides the basis to say that there is a lack of money for the war, there are also external factors, they consist in the fact that moscow cannot remain under sanctions and pressure for too long, which... is growing. in addition, moscow, obeying these factors, seeks quick negotiations. and who is against negotiations in ukraine? it is important. in ukraine, it is the right. these are nationally oriented forces. that is , the majority. some effect is needed. so that the influence of these forces, their radical position had less influence on public opinion. i also believe that negotiations now on the terms put forward by moscow are absolutely unacceptable for ukraine. because they will not end the war. at best, they will postpone it, at worst, they will prolong it. that's all in my opinion, because if we agree to moscow's terms, we can talk about this in more detail, then it means not just a concession, but programming and tempting the aggressor to take new actions to occupy the territories and end the sovereignty of ukraine. a signal will be sent to moscow that this is possible,

that it works, and from this point of view, it is necessary , of course, that people like farion, although i do not think that she was too influential, probably had detractors inside ukraine as well, she is with the army. for several weeks, they still don't issue the motivational part of the sentence to my lawyer, it will be very interesting to read it, there are three episodes, it seems, and three interviews where i said that there was a genocide in buch, ukrainians were killed by russians the military, that's what i was convicted of, yes, i'm on this list, but i'm protected by the french

police, and my safety is ensured in this way, i don't know if a drone can fly to france, i don't know, but from the point of view of security, yes , i'm on this list, but it's a lot. people, i am not the only one, it would be too presumptuous to assume that they have chosen me as the only target. again, i repeat, they do not evaluate the efficiency by the degree of significance, how much a person influences the russian audience or not, although i have a large channel, i have been known in russia for many years. no, this is still a necessary demonstration, even the attack on ponomaryov's house is also a demonstration for the rest. get scared, kneel down and stay out of the way, let us do what we want. and generally disappear from the political field, yes, this blacklist contains people in ukraine, it is more difficult to do in ukraine, it is possible only remotely, at the level of drones, although contract killings are also possible, there are specifics here, this is a question for the ukrainian special services, how they that's what they're working on, they must

have secrets about it, if that's really all there is to it yes, well, it means that there is a revival, that is, the activation of such things indicates some other parallel processes, you are very right... you said that the key story is the kremlin's interest in getting what it wants, yes, in particular , in a diplomatic way, but if we talk about the parameters, the first parameter, yes, the kremlin immediately voiced the story that it does not want and will not communicate with our authorities, which it considers illegitimate, well whose cow mooed, so to speak, yes , clearly not kremlin, but this is one moment, another moment, the situation in the states, we understand, the kremlin will also be hot in the states... i hoped that trump would take power from biden and, accordingly, after november , the kremlin scenario could work in one direction, that is, with the ultimate by telling ukraine what they said, so to speak, they will want in the kremlin and agree on this matter, maybe

with the trump administration, well, i am grossly oversimplifying, but the situation is getting complicated for the kremlin, and so to speak, the autumn scenario can be postponed for a certain so-called long drawer and that is why they are counting on what, in the spring, that is, the energy scenario, shaheds, missiles and a set of measures, yes, and after there will be, as they say, the immensity of the suffering of the ukrainian people, this is how my american friends formulate it, then the kremlin would and i would like, so to speak, to impose, i don't know if there is istanbul-3 or abu dhabi 5, or some other site there. how do you see it? i don't think we 'll see any direct talks or any direct action in the fall that will help that, by direct action i mean action by the united states. the first and most important factor is none. certainties, then it will be the same democrats, their line or trump who will rule the country? it is quite

obvious that this is possible, even diametrically opposed positions, because the uncertainty creates the uncertainty of the settlement plan, what the parties will agree to, i mean the democrats or trump. kamala harris, if she becomes a candidate and wins the election, will of course continue the biden line, this is a moderate line, pushing for negotiations with ukraine, but at the same time... a firm position of supporting ukraine, providing it with military and financial aid, etc., without making it a condition, aid in exchange for participation in negotiations. in the trumps - this, i mean what he himself pronounced. i 'm going to talk about mike pompeo's plan separately now, but still, what he's saying and what we 're hearing from him or senator vance and some others, up to his son, can rather be interpreted as saying that he's willing to negotiate with putin himself. no formats needed, no fast. i will meet with putin and come to an agreement

that is, any shuttle missions of orbán and others, this is all the quality of actions that serve trump’s position, that are attempted to drag him into some kind of peace process, some format, istanbul, for example, he does not need it, he says: i will personally negotiate with putin , and what can they not agree on, we heard the parameters of the plan closest to trump, according to which he does not give up the power of ukraine, but makes it dependent on the readiness of ukraine to participate in peace negotiations, that is, we will help militarily, but ukraine must to agree to peace talks, whether it is a parallel or substitute process, but quite certain. i want to say that it cannot happen before january 20, because trump will be inaugurated if he wins the election only on january 20 , 2025, and then, already closer to spring, he will hold meetings with ... putin and something will be decided, can they agree or not, fundamentally. all the rest of the arguments that

the ukrainian government is not recognized because after may 20 president zelenskyi is not legitimate, all this is done by moscow through ipso to lower, dump the government in ukraine, but no more, realizing that in reality this is not an argument, after all, they will talk with the authorities in kyiv, of course, they will conduct negotiations, if they do begin. as for all these formats, the swiss one on the peace formula and... the previous one in istanbul and the initiative of saudi arabia, which took place on august 5, 2023, and the next one is planned, and the chinese initiative on a peace conference with the mandatory participation of russia, i think it's just a smokescreen, really, it's still a game that both sides play, and the usa is playing, and kyiv is playing, somewhere it says, well, we are ready for negotiations, understanding that in this format, for which moscow puts forward preconditions, and putin put forward before the summit in switzerland. his three important preconditions, which he believes should be implemented regardless of the start

of negotiations: the lifting of sanctions, the non-aligned status of ukraine and the liberation of the unoccupied territories of four regions: donetsk, luhansk, zaporizhzhia and kherson. these are unacceptable preconditions. theoretically, moscow can somehow not put forward these conditions, to enter the negotiation process without these preconditions. what does moscow demand? she needs a cease-fire, she needs a preamble to a truce. because it's different, it's not just a ceasefire. a truce always has guarantors. the parties can stop the fire, but the guarantors must promote a truce, at least temporarily. then negotiate directly about the details of some arrangements, agreements, etc. currently, i do not see any conditions for solving this problem. kyiv and moscow simply cannot meet somewhere without intermediaries, and this one the mediator is not ready. there is no one in the us, and erdogan has already lost his position as a trusted mediator. kyiv, first of all, the usa and the west do not see erdogan as such an effective mediator, since he would get too close

to moscow, we can see that, therefore erdogan's platform can hardly be effective, with regard to china, it is more tempting, because china has an important trump card, mutually with moscow, the opportunity to influence it and bring it into negotiations, force it to participate, this is a format that china itself will approve, but it faces the problem of the us is not going to give china such. they do not want china to act in this conflict on the territory of europe as a peacemaker, mediator, guarantor, or someone else there, strengthening its international authority. like, now china decides when to start and stop wars, the us will never agree to that, never. trump is generally anti-chinese, and even the current biden administration, following obama, continues to call china not a superpower, but a regional power in southwest asia, and moreover, does not recognize his claims to there is some kind of binary world, bipolar, in

which there is washington and beijing, so the usa will not agree to this, in my opinion, there is a very... high probability of starting negotiations right from the meeting, if trump wins, trump with putin, if trump does not win, then very likely, some quadrilateral will be formed: usa, china, russia, ukraine. such a quadrangle can occur if kamala harris comes to power and trump loses the election, then yes, this configuration has a better chance, but there is no way it will happen before spring. well, anyway, mark, we are we understand that putin is not in vain. voiced those conditions that are unacceptable by definition, no matter how putin is treated, well, he is not a clinical idiot, and he is quite experienced in this, that is, he could not have voiced certain parameters, in particular, when we are talking about annexation yet captured ukrainian territories, and counting aviation, a component of the f-16, we understand that putin's

plan, even for his generals, is unrealistic, but he went for it, and here we can assume that it is possible ... these or other environments, i i don't know what mandate abramovich had for istanbul, yes, but he represented someone, and accordingly, putin in this way wants to cut off some or the other alternative to his position, ideas, respectively, pompeo's plan, we understand, this is good, but there is also no stamp on this plan with the name of president donald trump, because it's not a fact that he will become president, but always in any case trump... you can say, well, it's from pompeo's fantasy, he's a cool dude, i respect him, we drank 4 liters of whiskey, but it's not my idea, and accordingly, here we may also be in for unpleasant surprises, yes, because trump, the guy is also experienced, but his experience, well , it is not a fact that he will benefit us. as for pompeo, we promised to talk about

it, yes, it is quite an effective plan, there is one caveat that can be very painful for the ukrainian community. thoughts that ukraine may lose part of the territory, i mean the plan that i printed from the wall street journal. as for the rest, this is a perfect plan from the point of view of ukraine's sovereignty, this is nato membership and the rest of the things that are repeated, like boris johnson's, in his plan, which we also saw in the daily mail on the eve. yes, to cede some part of the territory, but what exactly, four oblasts plus crimea, or only part of these four oblasts? this is the question of the negotiating position that pompeo is hinting at. will be trump's position on negotiations, namely on these parts. the trouble is that precisely the first part of the plan - the absolute sovereignty of ukraine - is unacceptable to moscow. these plans of both johnson and pompeo are unacceptable for moscow. they may be acceptable to trump, but moscow will never agree to a change in non-aligned status. yes, probably in these three among the preliminary conditions that putin mentioned before

the summit in switzerland, provoking the summit in switzerland to some sharp reactions, are the conditions for the withdrawal of the parts. su from the unoccupied parts of the territories of the four regions, but maybe he can concede this, here they can move the administrative border, maybe. the condition of lifting the sanctions is important for moscow, because the sanctions are painful, painful, but still , they are sanctions imposed by third countries. ukrainian sanctions are not the most principled for moscow, but american, european, australian, canadian, japanese, and the rest countries, it is necessary for them to make this request, why kyiv, if it declares an agreement... according to the previous conditions, it should take care that these sanctions are canceled, these are the sanctions of third countries, but regarding the non-aligned status, that is, the prevention of nato accession of ukraine, here, moscow will never retreat , but on the ground, on the ground, as they are going, so to speak, to return the territory, so we also understand that this is a symbolic story, well, because putin is with

him, they voiced it for a reason and, so to speak, changes were made to russian as well as from non-aligned status or nato membership, well , we understand the position of moscow, so here is the whole fable about the indivisibility of security and so on on the continent, but the story about the territories that must be returned, how could they sell them, or could they not, and they simply they will stand on that. indeed, the constitution of the russian federation, which included these new subjects in its composition, provides, including the laws that will follow from it. that it is impossible to change the territorial integrity of russia is a criminal article, even for appeal, i defended ulmi umerov in crimea according to this article. in general, you can't talk about rejection in any way. yes, they have already occupied and included, on the other hand,

the russian constitution is chewed paper in the toilet, no one will pay attention to the constitution, it's just that, in addition to the constitution, putin's plans are even more ambitious, he wants the whole of ukraine, not just four regions, and here he leaves a maneuver for himself, i suppose that he can move somewhere, say that we leave it to ourselves. this is a negotiating position, but for an unoccupied one part we are ready to negotiate, what will be offered to us? and what does he offer? i wonder what he offers in exchange for all this, but in fact he only offers that they will not attack kyiv. and try to attack kyiv, especially after receiving these planes by ukraine, according to bloomberg, yesterday maybe 20 planes of the first batch, no one knows how many, not to mention the rest. you first capture that kyiv. of course, if the troops... were stationed near kyiv, there would be other negotiations, but that is not the case. how to define this military the balance that favors one side or the other, is it such that when the war

continues, ukraine will definitely lose it, or on the contrary, will ukraine resist? moscow will definitely lack the strength to hold the occupied territories, or is it able to accumulate resources to reach the regional centers, kharkiv, odesa and others? no one knows the answer, there is a military balance, and in terms of military balance the conditions must be mutual. acceptable, not imposed by one side, which moscow is trying to do, and also uses other methods for pushing their positions, because they cannot achieve this by military means, if they could achieve this, they would have already achieved it and would be standing in kyiv, but this cannot be achieved, so a big game is going on here: who will increase the number of allies of their position, who will exhaust it faster their capabilities, etc., in particular the information game, all these ipso that are being tested in... they are also in order to undermine the unity, monolithicity, confidence in their own strength and not only of ukraine, but also of the west. voices are heard: now is a favorable position,

numa to hold negotiations, the finnish president declares it, others also, because of course the war is draining europe's resources, in particular, all the more so that everyone is in an exhausting wait for the results of the elections in america, europe is afraid of the arrival of trump, the main powers are afraid of this, france , germany and others, because they have a negative. the experience of interacting with trump during his presidency from 2016 to the 20th year. in this situation, there is no other recipe, no other way, than to do what you are doing, to keep fighting, not to molest unacceptable conditions, hold on until the situation improves in the right direction. if ukraine retreats now and agrees to some of putin's conditions, then it will be very difficult to play back. he will take hold of it and say: you yourself agreed, you yourselves. are ready to sacrifice something, accordingly, this is a trap, and the kremlin wants to drive ukraine into this trap. the territorial issue is not as important for the kremlin as the issue of

ukraine's sovereignty, which involves the possibility of non-aligned status in nato and other european and other alliances. the main question what will ukraine be like, how will those 80% of territories controlled by official kyiv come out of this war, or will they come out with a neutral status that can be undermined by the next one. a new war, because no one covers you outside of nato, the network of agreements on guarantees that kyiv is currently signing for the post-war period may not work, but membership in nato will work, we have already seen this, the baltic countries, an example of the fact that this status works, and this is the most fundamental issue, and it is not resolved. thank you so much, mark, for this extremely important on-air conversation espresso tv channel. take care, god help you, i want to remind our viewers. that now mark feigin, a figure of the russian opposition without emigration, a former deputy of the state duma, who received, according to the decision of the pseudo-court of the first instance, 13 years

of imprisonment for anti-kremlin agitation, worked for them. thanks mark. thank you. well, the time of our program is over, stay with the espresso tv channel. my colleagues will inform you about all the most important events of this day. take care of yourself and your loved ones. see you on air. ten year old ivan monastyrskyi, 13-year-old maria balanovska and 10-year-old serhiy tolstoy. all these children disappeared in the temporarily occupied territories of luhansk region and for a long time it has not been possible to find out where they are. that is why i really hope for your help and, of course, i am mostly addressing the residents of the territories of the luhansk region that are not controlled by ukraine. it is clear that you are not

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