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if you don't want to be with me, then i 'll call 20 people over there, you'll be with him one by one, like, so choose either with me or with them, i still remember me like this smelly, i tried to push him away, but even though he was drunk, he was stronger than him. at that time, maryna's mother saw that the girl and the soldier who had taken her with him to another room had disappeared. she told his comrade in arms about it. these soldiers called themselves snipers and were based in the building opposite. and then he also tried to undress me there, he also wanted to continue. then i pushed him away hard, he started talking, wanted to hit me, i, well... i wanted
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to hit my face with my fist, and then i hear people walking, walking again, and i hear voices and come in, two russian men, military, and they took me away then and told this soldier that they were waiting for him, well, he will be in bad shape, after detaining the soldier and the marines , they arranged a face-to-face bet. they say, like, admit that you did it, he says, ah i don't remember at all, they say, well, of course , he was drunk, they say, if you want , we'll speed him up, i say, well, no, i can't let a person be shot in front of me, well, i didn't want it at all he was shot there, it was more unpleasant for me to read when he said that i was just taking it, that i came myself...
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to him, what, what am i saying that you are ruining my life, like, well, the military, others told me that he had, well, he was sitting, that he seems to have a mother, that he is also from somewhere in the dpr, lpr, everything he is to me i remembered him, with blue eyes, well , so blue, he also has the nickname blue, well... i don't know anything else about him, do you remember how old he was, maybe around 30-40, i still call him by e, well, by name, mykola, kolya, we started leaving from the end of september. the beginning of october
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22nd of the year in the de-occupied villages of the kyiv region, at first we started only psychologists, and then we were joined by gynecological mobile brigades and we also traveled, well, almost the entire de-occupied part of the kyiv region, we also traveled with teams of gynecologists. natalia potseluyeva is a psychologist who specializes in work with trauma. with the onset of full-scale war, her clientele... became those who survived the occupation and suffered sexual violence at the hands of the russian military. we went with the psychologist to makarov, which is 60 km from kyiv. here natalya conducts a psychological session for teachers who remained in the city during its occupation. now natalia works with two dozen survivors of sexual violence. my smallest client. was 5 years old
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the oldest was 65 years old, there is a certain part of teenage girls who were between 14 and 16 years old at the time of the crime against them, there are civilian men, released from captivity, who were also subjected to sexual violence. ukrainian investigators began recording cases of sexual violence. immediately after the de-occupation of the kyiv region in april 2022. in two years, law enforcement officers began to investigate 292 cases. even if we were told in the village that we know for sure that this person was raped, we never said anything about it, because it can traumatize a person. we gave a business card, and maybe someone you know there, maybe we provide special professional help. and in this way, someone called us after our arrival, someone... said right in the office that yes, i
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would like to talk, someone was already transferred to us from the office of the general prosecutor, when someone already applied, the village of marina. the ukrainian military released me and gave testimony, well, to the prosecutor general's office, for example, my father does not know what happened to me, and therefore, if i gave a testimony, he would find out about it, well, such a moment personal, but it is so very important to me, and i still haven't really resolved it with my father. after the deoccupation of the village, marina and her mother left for the city. 60 km from krasnivka, i didn’t want anyone to know, i didn’t even want to go to the police, it’s just that my mother turned in, told me, then, and i also had to
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tell, i think, to keep silent in general, to just forget about it , it did not allow my mother to live peacefully. anna sosonska, head of the department that supervises the investigation of sexual crimes committed during the war. immediately after the deoccupation of some regions, anna was the first in a group of law enforcement officers to stop by to record these cases. now the people with whom i started working during the de-occupation are officially contacting us with statements about committing crimes. at the end of september, at the beginning of october 22, we offered them the support of a psychologist, they underwent psychological sessions for a year and a half, and after a moment of stabilization, they decided that
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they were strong enough to go into criminal proceedings, well, you can imagine , how many are still thinking and are in stabilization process. i explain to them why it is important to contact the law enforcement agencies, i explain that every recorded crime is one more step to the international trial and to the leaders of this country being held accountable for everything they have done, i participate with them in interrogations, that is, i prepare for the interrogation, i literally take their hand, lead them to the interrogation, i... to the interrogation, after that i stabilize. after the deoccupation of the village of maryna, the ukrainian law enforcement officers began their investigation. they made photo robot of the military and showed marina dozens of photos for identification. lawyer iryna
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kapalkina took up maryna's case a year ago. there were quite a lot of photos, and as far as i know, they are still being provided today. periodically such photos for recognition, but unfortunately, there has been no positive result so far. at the end of 2023, the team from kyiv-independent started their own investigation of this war crime. mykola, call sign, blue, had a criminal record, served. in the so -called army of the occupied donetsk or luhansk regions controlled by russia. this was clearly not enough. we needed to find more information about blue. we
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arrived in krasnivka and began to look for witnesses to the crime committed by a military man with a blue call sign at the beginning of a full-fledged accident. and we already know him here as a blue one, we knew then how he could go to his beloved, well, to such an extent he communicated with people and children, to such an extent that he entered into trust, as if he were already a relative, then he entered the house, to his home, already as he entered, no one noticed him, whether he entered, whether he did not enter, whether he came out, whether he did not come out, then he reached such a level of trust in people .
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on the other side of the village, where all the civilians lived, the russian military also occupied one of the houses, next door to the family of anatoly bondarenko. we have a keeper of the arch, just an old man, who used to tell us a lot about things like this and that. and where are we going to tell that we have no communication, no telephones, what will he tell interestingly, right away, there was a communication in the attic, once in the attic there was a pole, he was telling the boys about something, who is this anatoliy stary, this the castle of the lpr headquarters, the lehners were here, and how did you find out who they were, they said themselves, they themselves said that we were from luhansk or donetsk, well , there was no lehner, according to bondarenko, an old military man with the call sign visited them. he warned anatoliy to hide his car, otherwise it would be stolen, he arranged
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for the man to be let out of the village to collect water, here comes the girl, she says, bitches, she says, a girl, a girl was raped, we have one, she was the only one here, we this i say, what does, i say, build all yours, i say, this war, i say, set up all your people, shoot him in front of everyone, because i say, tomorrow there are convicts, we already knew that there were convicts, the old man, about whom anatoliy talks, found siny and marina in a house on the other side of the village, later the old man arranged for them an eye rate. how were they doing, well, you didn’t know who, they brought him here and put him here, here he
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is in this room, what was he doing here, there were mattresses, he was smoking, maybe he fell asleep, or he was specially set on fire, who knows him, well, he started smoking because the check began to smoke, and it's the same old one, it's just that, it was just here, he says they rushed to the smoke, they discovered him, he was sitting in a car, he took him out into the street , shot him above the head, and then somewhere on... whether immediately or after some time, he was apparently taken to kochubeivka. kochubeivka is a village 14 km from krasnivka, the center of the community, which was also under russian occupation. at the end of march 2022, the russian military began to retreat from their positions in krasnivka and kochubeivka. according to bondarenko, to say goodbye, stary invited him and his family to visit him in russian-occupied donetsk region and left his own.
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the military serviceman who came to the house this discovery became the starting point for us, daria's family, did not hide who he was. he called his name. his name is nadbit dubayev, at that time he seems to have been 21 years old, 23-year-old nadbid dubayev, born in buryat, judging by his social networks, professes the buddhist faith, during his deportation to ukraine he held the rank of corporal and was the deputy commander of a combat vehicle, as a gunner-operator in the eighth company of the 37th separate guards motorized rifle brigade of the russian federation. this brigade was one of those that captured the kyiv region, and whose servicemen committed
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brutal war crimes. we came to the village in the kyiv region several times, showed photos of nadbi and dabaev to everyone we talked to, no one recognized the soldier. only when we arrived in the third and went to a street far from the center, we began to learn more about dabaev. the local woman, who recognized the soldier, agreed to tell about him not on camera, but not on camera, i will approach you like this, we are looking for such a buryat, his name is poor thing, he used to come into the house, we have it here , as soon as they entered our house, i hid, but my mother and grandmother came out, and they clearly told my mother, we know that you have a daughter here, let her go, mother rabies that ran around there. she doesn't know where she is, but i see that they are already being shot, so i went out,
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i must have been hysterical there, when i, well, they were all wearing masks, when the hysteria started there, i cried a lot , well , he sat down, took off his mask, well then, and said like over there, why are you crying over there, we are over there we don't do anything, but on the contrary , we came there to free you, we were there every day... the day there only got brighter there from 8:00 to 9:00 in the morning, he already went in there to make tea and coffee for him until it got dark, that is , no one came out. here they were sitting here, having nightmares, then basically getting drunk, they asked to take the car, according to the woman, dabaev usually did not come to the house alone, he had several subordinates, the military man hid his face only on the first day, then he took off his mask and began to tell about myself
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more that he was brought up in a boarding school, that he had already fought in syria, that his uncle is a military man in the headquarters... in a managerial position, that a few months before the invasion of ukraine, they were based on the border with belarus, and that a pregnant woman is waiting for him at home girl. in june 2022, ukrainian law enforcement officers announced suspicion against dabayev in absentia for allegedly committing at least three war crimes. in addition to the fact that dabaev threatened to shoot daria's family and stole their car, in the first days of the occupation of the village, he shot a local man in the head. "we dabaev was contacted, he refused to answer our direct questions, pain can become an obstacle, walking stairs, not with
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this is svoboda live on radio svoboda. we have already come to the snake itself. the following shots may shock you. news from the scene. live kamikaze drone attacks. political analytics. objectively and meaningfully. there is no political season. exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front. frankly and impartially, you draw your own conclusions. two hours to learn about the war and what the world is like, two hours to keep abreast of economic and sports news, two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become likeable to many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio. the events of the day in two
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hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart people and not... espresso in the evening. well, after that, we didn't see each other anymore, i didn't see him. i heard that they told me that they shot him there, well, i don't know if it's true or not, well, i don't know, i don't believe that they could have shot their own. for months, our team worked to... find blue. we searched for any mention of him in open sources, but it seemed as if this person never existed. we set out to identify people who might have known blue. we started with an old man who left his phone number in the local krasnivka. using information from databases and programs that identify users by
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phone numbers, our editors found out that the 53-year-old ukrainian anatoly kushnir, a sniper, was behind this call sign. previously, he probably used a call sign, had several convictions, lives with his wife rina in the occupied donetsk region. judging by koshnir's social networks, he participated in the war in eastern ukraine since 2014. since the moment when representatives of paramilitary formations controlled by russia took temporary illegal control of the city of slovyansk in donetsk region. later, koshnir published a photo with the medal on his social networks. on the eve. after a full-scale invasion of the occupied territories of donetsk and luhansk regions, russia began mass mobilization, preparations for the offensive were underway, new
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regiments were formed based on the model and under the command of the russian army. kushnir, like siny, joined the newly created 109th regiment of the army of the occupied donetsk region. journalist ziyiv independent, who in... confidently speaks russian, called kushnir under the legend that he was a russian investigator and conducts its own investigation. i'm calling you about nicholas the blue, if you know. nicholas the blue? i know one. yes, i fought him. i know almost everything because the teams that were there took him near the naked girl. and i discovered a mother with small children. i actually wanted to shoot him then, but i didn't... well, they said that you even arranged an eye bet between this mykola, yes, yes, that's
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true, and what happened to him next? he returned home, committed two more crimes here, robbed his brother's wife, it seems that he was imprisoned, allegedly, i know this from words, because i came to our comrades... of the 109th regiment, and they told me about it. so maybe he is sitting there somewhere? yes, he must be sitting somewhere in donetsk. and what is his last name? well, his call sign was blue, i don't know his last name. he was a platoon commander, he was removed after that. we have been in touch with koshnir for several weeks. he also shared with us the military phone number with the call sign of scrip. oleksandr skrypnyk. oh, i'll hang out, it's okay. listen,
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the last time i saw blue was when i saw everything. only then? so, yes, when should i see him again? well, kushnir said that you communicate, i don't know. but stop it, you see that we don't communicate anywhere. i have to, sorry for the expression. "listen, yes, i myself spent many years in prison, we spent the term with him, the last, probably the last term, we spent with him, everything, how they tried to accuse him of rape, and everything, somewhere they took him, and i haven't seen him anymore, of course, that is , oleksandr volodymyrovych, you don't know where he is, no, of course, i need him, if i knew, i would say, especially, i need such a scoundrel, all the more so here he dumped someone for money." and you don't have a contact for him, well, dear, if there were, then with pleasure, listen, and here is your number, yes, worker, i understood, i'm not
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what you want i'm saying something, but i'm at home now, okay, but the day after tomorrow, if i know my boys from gorli, if anyone is left, if there's a number or a contact, then i'll send it to you, and you'll figure it out, okay? i'll be grateful, because somehow you can at least clarify what his last name is, because i can't even establish that, wait, blue, blue mykola, no, no, blue or blue, i don’t remember, i answer, honestly, i don’t know, he wants to serve the term together with him, and who should i call, i don’t know, i answer honestly, but the blues definitely pushed it, we they started looking for people by name. dozens of people identified mykola with surnames derived from the word blue, while simultaneously calling other comrades of blue, time passed, no
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result. the last method, which we gave a small chance - to find people with the name mykola, whose surname begins not only with son, but also with sen. in ukrainian and russian languages, in some cases it can be a consonant variant with the word blue. we received a list of 15 men from sources in the law enforcement agencies, began to collect more information about them, came across a post where a woman was allegedly looking for her brother from. a serviceman who disappeared in the direction of kherson. everything indicated that this serviceman could be blue. we started his identification. senenko mykola volodymyrovych, born in 1985, lived in the occupied donetsk region, had several criminal convictions. last place of registration for address of colony, where, according to skrypnyk.
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they were serving their sentence together with syny, previously everything coincided, we found more photos of mykola synenko and went with them to krasnivka, first we showed the photo to maryna's mother, well, this is more similar, well, this is the earlier one, well, this is yakan, this is more similar, well, you see him do you recognize yes, it's his, what's his name? kolya, kolya, yes, he is, yes, he is, yes, he is, he is blue, yes, and these eyes, yes, yes, yes, i say, what is his ear, these are bald spots, and so on lips, i can guess them for sure, that they spend two days talking with him without him oh, it is clear that i will remember the person.
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of guilt, because you still keep it in your head. and you think that maybe you should have done something to prevent this from happening, say or do something like that, well, or maybe i also thought about this, that it is better to die with dignity than to be raped by the occupier, well, such for some moments, daria lived with these thoughts for some time, work with a psychologist and a community of women helped to rehabilitate, this is... ukraine. their experience showed that sexual violence has been committed by the russian military and troops under their control since 2014. it's not just about rape. international and ukrainian organizations recorded cases when the russian military imprisoned and forcibly exposed women, connected electricity to their genitals, threatened to rape their relatives or forced them to watch it. it 's never about sexual pleasure
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