for some reason it is more convenient, well, in principle, it is simply a question of the lack of desire to survive, we need to survive in the war, and in the information war, telegram, tiktok are weapons that are used against us, but tiktok was banned in the united states of america, as far as i remember , and due to the fact that the chinese did not want to contact the american authorities, we have our own practice. which was with similar resources, bans, and vkontakte of classmates, this story began in 2014, and during the tenure of president poroshenko , these resources were banned, although i remember to which, as the users of these networks howled, what will happen, i will not have classmates, i have all my classmates there, all my relatives from russia, i will lose them, i do not know what i will do, in this situation, andriy, what. .. we can say

to telegram users and ourselves, because we are also active users of telegram channels where there is war and telegram channels now provide a lot of information about the war and what is happening in the country, and about arrivals, about , how russia is attacking ukraine in operative mode, can ukrainians live without a telegram, and if there is no telegram, then what can to be, as soon as there will be no... no cinema, no no theater, there will be no continuous television, of course they can and will live without telegram, i am sure of this, because telegram is a truly destructive network, now our politicians are playing telegram, yet create various anonymous channels, where they pour incriminating information on each other and criticize each other and try to pour some kind of internal insights into it, i was literally told today: that one businessman bought

a well-known telegram channel from another, well, some kind of internal kitchen is going on, there are some kind of market, and it interferes a little bit just to put telegram under control, because it is profitable for many, including in the ukrainian authorities, but for simple ordinary people like me, and who watch this program, i advise you to open google, enter the inscription there kremlegram cream. telegram is such a site that collects all the evidence that telegram is a russian platform that is dangerous for ukrainians, and i think that you will then decide that you can somehow live without telegram in your work and in your personal life. larisa, as needed to fight whether and whether it is necessary to fight against telegram and how to explain to our viewers and telegram users that this network, which, which is used by the fsb and... they have created 800

or 900 telegram channels there and work all over the world and try to influence the information field , and in ukrainian as well, because with the beginning of the great war there was a boom in telegram channels, well, it’s impossible to explain it in any way, because it seems to people that they know everything, yes, yes, somewhere there are kremlin channels, of course, well, i’m a smart person , i don't read gibberish, that is, there is a certain arrogance, which is not works, i believe that there is a method that was. applied during the first world war, during the second world war, this, this closure, the british ministry of the interior had the right to close any publication, then these were printed publications that act against, in their opinion, against the interests of the state, and that's already the publication had to prove through the court that it was not such, and in the 40s, when the war just started, when the war with czechoslovakia began, the germans began to occupy czechoslovakia. then britain, of course, as

allies and france declared war on hitler, which they say we will not tolerate this, and then, the british edition of the british yorker is a left-wing publication, a british worker, a worker, and it came out with such a nameless article about the fact that, they say, this is the war of the imperialists, and we are generally proletarians here, drop it, so, that's all not good, we know, and then it's just this publication. then, in principle , the issue of working with questionable information resources during the war began, and then it was closed. we see that at the moment all these platforms, their danger is not only in the fact that they spread false information, that they are used as a means of struggle, whether commercial or political, we see the consequences, by the way, in britain for a week and a half, horror, simply, pogroms. and when they start

to figure things out, it is about spreading from completely unknown sources, completely false information that has stirred up the whole of britain, there they can't, there are pogroms, there people are just, well... really horror is happening, which the authorities cannot cope with , although the authorities communicate perfectly, we know that telegram has other flaws, such as how it reads a book, a phone book of anyone, and even if in my book, for example, there is no name of mr. yermak, because i am not his wife, not his girlfriend, neither mother nor suitor , but nevertheless, someone, for example, has a politician. phone, where papa is written there, that is , here is the telegram shield, someone has yermak written in the book, and since it was considered, of course, russia knows yermak's phone number, and someone has papa, the same phone, and this means where this boy is, where his, where, where, what school does he go to,

that is, it's so dangerous, we don't even understand that i can be seen by someone as mrs. larisa, and by someone as someone's acquaintance, mother, and we are in... each of us is in danger, because telegram, that's the problem of telegram , not even in the information, he follows, and the russian special services build networks, they know where whose maid is, where whose neighbor is, whether your child studies at school with the child, you may not even know whose father it is, but if the child is stolen, there is no i know, and they will start blackmailing you, influence there, well that is, we are all in danger, because this is a war, and saboteurs are fighting against us, and you cannot explain this to people. it's just that the state should step in and stop it, at least for the duration of the war, and instead we hear, in our country, every, every government agency has created its own telegram channel, every politician has created its own telegram channel, well, i'm probably the only one who hasn't has a telegram channel in this country, but not me, well, that's me, that's the humor, but well, we

should just close it, because it's dangerous, because it's a tool not only of influence, but also surveillance, and he facilitates sabotage when under attack becomes... everyone. well, this should be an obvious political decision. obviously. thank you, colleagues, for the conversation. it was larisa voloshina and andrii dyanitskyi. thank you for the conversation. i would like to remind our viewers that we conducted surveys throughout our broadcast. friends, we asked you about whether you consider ukrainian diplomacy to be effective. let's look at the final results, the final results of this television poll. 16%, yes, 80. 4% no, these are the results of a television survey on 24% of our facebook users consider ukrainian diplomacy to be effective, and 76% do not. we will put an end to this, friends, it was the verdict program, conducted by serhiy

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our viewers, today i am artem logutenko on the air with you, and we will talk about, i am not afraid of this wording, a special military operation to demilitarize the kursk region of russia, with me as a guest today is roman pohorily, this is the co-founder and senior analyst of the deepstate resource, and. .. actually , roman, i want to discuss with you the purpose of this operation, we have been watching for several days how our forces break through the defense of the russians, seize new and new territories in the kursk region, but we do not know anything about the purpose, what do you think the purpose is ? congratulations, well if to talk about the goals and tasks that have been set for today, then they definitely do not exist, because first of all, our military and political leadership... it chose the position of silence, and this is probably the most correct position of all

that was before, is now, and now there are certain versions, there someone says that it is to get to the gas distribution station there to the as, and to have some leverage, someone simply says that it is the capture of the territory, the return of the territory, which may also agree with us in the future. in certain negotiating positions, in particular, this was noted by the representative office of the president, i don't know what this comment was for, but let it be, but someone says that it is a withdrawal of some reserves, so that the muscovites could withdraw them from belgorod, there from the donbass, although as of today, as many days have passed, our guys have not feel this distraction, if it was even there, because a very large number of forces are concentrated there, in particular, if we are talking about the avdiivka, pokrovska, or toretska districts. but time will tell here, for today this work is being done, in the future we will see

what was all this for, the main thing is that it reached its end, that it did not find its fulfillment, and what are the tasks and all these versions there, there is no difference, nevertheless, i would like to discuss them with you, because as you correctly noted, the ukrainian official side does not say anything. about this operation, but we are interested in understanding what it will be, whether it will be another sortie, as it was, we observed several times in the performance of russian volunteer units that entered the territory of the russian federation, fought there for several days, filmed videos, photos came out, well, there are already at the first moment, signs that show that these are much larger-scale events, and they have... have some serious goals, because when the previous times came, there were certain

units, in particular, if we talk about the rdk and others, then there was a lot of media content of some kind, there were certain processes that had their own tasks, today we do not see that today there is any media coverage, we do not see that it was done there. on purpose, because where the footage comes from, where some fighters are, where damage is inflicted, where there are some collisions and in general, who inflicts these blows, in particular tonight. a whole column was burned, which was going there to some kind of their repulse, then this shows a serious scale, what is happening today, it is definitely not some previous actions that were on our side, and you know, here i am as a war correspondent, where, as a ukrainian, it was generally very

infuriating that we had some kind of conditional, probably, maybe not conditional er... red line, so that our troops could not cross the border and enter the territory of the russian federation, that is what we saw during the kharkiv counteroffensive, yes, when our troops liberated the region, reached the border and stood and were forced to watch the russians accumulate troops, and now it is obvious that this ban has been lifted, i understand correctly, i do not know , or remove, and a lot. who does not know whether to film there, whether there were any bans, for today, again, we can say there are some signs, there are some agreements, no, first of all, it is the fact that the united states, the european union and in in general, the partners stated that they did not know about these maneuvers, and if it is really so, that is , we just took it and did our job, and no one is telling us about it anymore,

it is possible or not, then the military and political leadership is all today's... actions should be proud of, because previously, we discussed, asked, discussed, we drew up some frameworks for what is possible, what is not possible, with what you can hit, where you can enter, but today we have such a position that the enemy has concentrated a large number of forces, and the enemy implements these forces in the east, in particular there in the donetsk region, we see that the map is changing every day, we see that there is progress every day, and eh... to date, everyone is already a partner there, they approach the negotiations somewhere from the side, they force us to involve muscovites in the negotiation process, in a peaceful one, although they should not discuss any points there, they should only be responsible for what they have done and for their aggression, because the international world has recognized that aggression is

a crime for which it is necessary to be punished, therefore there cannot be any discussions here, and for today day we are that wolf that is driven into a corner, and it remains for us to find some very frank solutions in that wolf that will give at least some chance to survive, here is one of them, so i don't know if there were any agreements, as of today it is reported that we are there on contacts with the united states, no one told us anything, the answer was clear and quite comprehensive, that this is ours, our war, these are our decisions, and no one has the right to interfere. therefore , only our highest representatives of the government probably know about the agreements here. by the washington publication post on the condition of anonymity, one of president zelenskyi's advisors said that the defense forces in the kursk region captured more than 100 russian soldiers, and that we

allegedly control 100 km of territory there. at the same time, we have completely different data, different figures, for example, the russian liberal edition of the agency talks about as much as 430 km, and what are your data and why are the figures so different? we don't have any data, because this is exactly the process that we try not to discuss, and we showed certain first days of marking there, so that people are already... fed up a little bit of information to understand that something is happening, because to contemplate how for three days, everyone is eating this russian information space, being in a ten-year war, in particular in the information space, well, it is difficult, but as it is, about what is different there , how much they took, how many came, because no one knows anything, and everyone

is trying to guess somewhere, draw something of their own somewhere, someone has their own sources, by the way, international media is such a funny process when our military and political leadership is silent, they don't give comments, it was already discussed it was mentioned, well, it was quite funny, and they start there, an unnamed general from the general staff, an unnamed adviser to the president's office, an unnamed someone else, someone else, well, i don't know, i call it a fantasy because somehow it must be a different way to approach writing at least something about... everything, but they have nothing, they start from such and such, and that's why, that's why the numbers differ, everyone is trying to guess something somewhere, of course, everyone reads, oh there, the soldiers wrote russian, russian in... they wrote, russian did not write i have only one question: since when did the russians become the source after all the lies, after all that we have already experienced with them in the war, that's all. by the way, this is

a really funny moment, if i'm not mistaken, the bloomberg publication recently published an article that the general staff does not pick up the phone and does not comment on these events. and speaking of the advance of our troops, actually, here we have... a wonderful video from the village of oktyabrska, i will ask the editors to show it now, there is simply a lot of burned equipment standing along the road, this the road, by the way, leads directly to the regional center, to kursk, and to the kursk nuclear power plant, it is noticeable that the village of oktyabrskoe is located somewhere in... 50 km from sudzhia, from which the entire information space actually began to discuss the offensive in the kursk region . mr. roman, what do you think it

means that our forces are going to kursk? perhaps, perhaps, now again it is difficult and unnecessary to draw an exact zone where our military is located, but the tasks that are set there. we don't know, and that's good, the military leadership knows about them, they are currently implementing it, these tasks are theirs, ah, who is interested, would like to know more, please join the guys in these landings, all these roads, and learn about all the plans that interest you. kurdsk, as, gas distribution station, something else, unknown, and it's great that it's unknown, we can see the results. here is a video of the defeat of this column, enjoy, i'm sure there will be more, and we will see the consequences in time, for sure, i would like

to talk to you about the enemy's military forces, which he has in the kursk region, in fact, we saw a lot of strange information, in particular about the kadyrivites, who blocked themselves there, then went somewhere in the wrong... direction, then declared that they had escaped with our troops, but what is actually happening, is there are there any troops in the territory of the kursk region that can oppose us? well , today, if you look at what we already have, the first ones met, met - these are, as they call, conscripts, akhmat is running somewhere, it is not known where. i take some baths where they are at the front, forcing their own the military from the russian federation, apologize if

they say something there that they were not there, it is very funny and very mysterious, but muscovites, they have certain resources, they are already collecting them, again it is very funny to watch how they film it all, where they're going where they 're concentrating there, and i'm sure they're going to use it all, and... usually, if you look at previous promotions, they 've been pretty quick, i don't know if they knew that something was going to happen and they were already ready, did they really have reserves somewhere and did they usually involve the russian guard, these are not minor forces, literally police, such a military force, but today it is more and more serious, they are now gathering such already regular troops, they are collecting equipment there. how they will implement it, where, so far not much is known, and here we will also see in time how they will take some positions in general, there is information that they charge from

different directions, first of all it is belgorod, that is, the northern borders kharkiv oblast, where they gathered a fairly significant group there, and on the one hand, even then, as kharkiv oblast was discussed, it was possible to think, and they could have such tasks, to realize all this... concentration of forces at once, but they start them gradually, by which they delay time, hold a certain territory, and again, they withdraw our reserves, and they have the resources for this , for more than one day there, for a week, they hold this entire territory, and after one group that they destroy, another immediately comes and so on day after day, so these forces that they have concentrated there, there is certain information that they transfer it to kursska district, then there was that also come from the south it is a considerable time to cross there from one point to another, but, excuse me, i will clarify

from the south exactly what you mean. the south, zaporizhzhia district, kherson region, let it be so, i don’t know for sure, just the south, where they occupied the territory, and whether this is also reliable is unknown, that is, time will tell here, first of all, it is always when they moved something , it crawled out later where they lit up, then time is still needed for overturning, on the one hand, they know how to do it, they are constantly pulling somewhere along the front, and only they see an opportunity. there for promotion, for a favorable situation, they throw reserves there, use them quickly, on the other hand, here it is so unexpected that it has started, so of course they are already charging it, they will do it, but how will they implement it and eh, will they be able to do something with the information disorganization, first of all, as it is, we will see here, i hope that our defense forces will destroy them and everything will be fine, but as for... the use of missiles,

as far as i understand, this is almost the biggest obstacle that our forces now encounter in kursk region, and it is not only kursk region, it is everywhere along the entire front line, first of all, they always had an advantage, and this is such a key, one of the main, or rather means, it is aviation with their cabs, fabs, and speaking there on the front line, this is now the pokrovska district, there is turetska, they started working very actively. in particular, when they had an advance and still have, they concentrated all this attention and inflicting damage on populated areas, on the positions of the ukrainian military, and as they do, they simply erase everything in zero, and then already the infantry, and it is simply swarming there, it continues to advance there, and in these uncomplicated conditions it is very difficult to somehow conduct battles, and nevertheless our defense forces are trying to contain all this pressure, so it is also not

an exception that in the area of ​​ku... the curious people will also apply all this, as they did in the area of ​​kharkiv region on the northern borders, vovchansk was simply destroyed in the first place precisely by kabas and fabas, this is what they did in the abyss of time, in marinka, in bakhmut, that is , this is now one of their main tactics, and this, unfortunately, is an advantage, but now they will have to wipe their own settlements from the face of the earth, which cannot help but please, not please, but well... it looks strange, because they are good that there are soldiers, whom they throw on the m they simply don't appreciate them, and these soldiers trust everything there, they go into battle, they don't stab and that's all, and when they come after civilians, they are ready to demolish entire settlements of their own people, their own houses , it looks wild and strange, and the fact that the population, it’s all right

there... supports, it’s already some kind of, i don’t know, madness and frenzy, just some kind of illness, well , they too, of course, they have some kind of separation , as always, this is the russian way, when there is a local government there, there are military personnel there, and they go out and film vladimir will do something to vladimir, i.e. they have a tsar and a god, this is only their ruler and that’s all, and they see nothing else, although he is the one who approves it in the first place and gives the orders to bomb them there, therefore... i understood you correctly that at the moment is there no improvement in the situation for our forces in other areas? well, on unfortunately, it is not that there is no improvement, it is just difficult, because the enemy has concentrated a large number of their forces, they are climbing continuously, moreover, they see some favorable moments, they see progress, and as i have already mentioned, one from their tactics, only they see something...

some opportunity, they immediately begin to develop this opportunity to put pressure there, and that is what they are doing, so now it is important to restrain this pressure, which is carried out, in particular, in the pokrovska, turetska area, this is probably now the most such areas are discussed, although in our country there is also the novomykhaivka district, that is, it is somewhere from ugledar to kostyantynivka, the route along which they are trying to get out, in particular, then to ugledar, this is the district. krasnohorivka, georgiivka, maksimilianivka, wherever they climb in the direction of korakhovo, and there, too, there are enough such heavy battles, this is the eastern kharkiv region, that is, there is the settlement of pishchane, everyone can see this ledge to the borova highway, kupyansk, puzzling kupyansk, therefore, there are a lot of these difficult moments, very often just from.