until 2011, my husband's father, my former father-in-law, unfortunately deceased, he paid the loan funds for this apartment, monthly loan payments, but of course, after the divorce, i paid these funds myself, it was his initiative, he had the ability to pay, after the divorce, according to kaminskaya , her parents helped her to pay off the loan debt, and last year her mother, a pensioner, gave... the candidate for the position of judge another apartment in the capital, for almost 70 thousand dollars. kaminska contributed her percentage funds for this apartment, however , the pensioner herself paid a much larger part. where does the mother, who has not had any source of income since 2020, get the money. my mother received benefits, significant severance payments in 2019 when she resigned due to retirement, she was later too.

won the legal proceedings regarding the remaining payments that were not timely paid to her in connection with dismissal and severance pay. the candidate for the constitutional court has wonderful relatives. the professor declared assets in gold and silver worth uah 140,000. and these are also gifts from grandparents. also, nataliya kaminska, according to the declaration, has more than 400,000 hryvnias. keeps cash, also gifts, these were mainly donated funds before the death of my grandfather and my father. last year, nataliya kaminska received more than half a million hryvnias from various people. this interview for the position of judge of the constitutional court is the second for natalia kaminska. prior to that, she applied for the position under the quota of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. but received a conclusion from the advisory group of experts about no answer possessing high moral qualities,

the professor tried again, this time for the president's quota, and this time she was recognized as dishonest. on july 31, an advisory group of experts found five out of six candidates unfit for the position of judge of the constitutional court based on the presidential quota, so a new competition and new, hopefully this time, worthy candidates await us soon. and for today, that's all i have, it was judicial control. and i am tatyana shostrova. if you know the facts of corruption in the judicial system, or you want to report overreach by a judge of his powers or his making illegal decisions, write to me on facebook or to the email address you see on your screens. all the best and we will meet in exactly one week. greetings, my name is yuriy fizar

and this is espresso-interview. i usually invite interesting guests to this studio in order to talk with them about interesting topics, and today my interlocutor is extraordinary and authoritative, mrs. ambassador of the republic of estonia to ukraine, annelii kolk. i will talk to her about important things, about mutual relations between estonia and ukraine, about the help that we... received, we continue to receive, and i am sure, we will continue to receive from our brotherly country, and about many other things. madam ambassador, i congratulate you, thank you very much for joining me today, for coming here, thank you, thank you so much, thank you very much for inviting me, thank you, look, the first question will be, estonia is a relatively small country compared to other european countries, of course there are smaller ones, but estonia is small. but with all this we

received a lot of help from you country, both financial and military, what is this, i don't know, paradox, maybe why it is so, or it is because of the knowledge of history, or maybe something else is hidden in it, yes, of course, one of the main reasons is that that we have a common history, we were occupied. the soviet union, we lived together under the conditions of occupation, we know what assimilation, de-russification is, and the soviet union tried to erase, eradicate our language, our culture, and we know what to do with our common neighbor, of course, this was one of the reasons , but i think the main thing. reason,

why estonia helps, has helped and will continue to help ukraine is that estonians love ukrainians very much, we... we admire how you behave against this russian evil, how you bravely and resolutely fight against brutality, genocide, and war crimes , and i think this is the biggest reason why estonia wants to help ukraine, and this war. grows even more, grows due to the fact that you continue to defend your country, fight for your people, for your cultural identity, and all this is very

dear and very close to estonians, and this is with on the one hand, it's bad that this common history that you mentioned unites us, and on the other hand, it's good that it unites us, because we feel how... we are close to each other, even when because we are separated by some, some kilometers separate us, and none the less, but still speaking about aid, are there any statistics on how much aid, for example, military or financial, we have received so far from the republic of estonia. there are very reliable statistics that estonia has provided since the beginning of the invasion. it is like a governmental state help, help from the private sector and ordinary ordinary citizens. as for military aid, it

has already reached more than 500 million. if compared with gdp, estonia provided aid by more than 1.3%. gdp of ours, this means that we are one of the most active countries that supports ukraine, in addition, the government of estonia decided at the end of last year that they will allocate for the next four years, 0.25% of our gdp annually for ukraine, specifically for military aid , for recovery. our help will definitely continue and estonia will do everything possible to increase humanitarian and other aid to ukraine. well, i can only answer that in estonian, i'll try, madam ambassador, don't let tanan

tejvaga criticize my accent too much for all that estonia does for us. well, but look, one more point, a few months ago, the parliament of estonia passed a law, and then this... law was ratified by the president of estonia, which this law allows the use of frozen russian assets to compensate for the damages that russia has caused in this war of aggression in ukraine . already several months have passed, it seems two months have passed since this law came into force, have there already been any transfers, this is the first question, to ukraine, i mean, and the second question is whether other western countries have followed the example of estonia, because estonia was the first western... estonia was one of the first countries that started to say that there is no need to use frozen russian assets to rebuild ukraine because the aggressor

has to pay a price for it, and we were one of the first countries , who two years ago said that we need to start. reconstruction, restoration of ukraine already during the war, we do not need to wait until it ends, because we need to give people hope and help refugees, those who left ukraine and then began to return, then we tried to understand, analyze all possible ways to to force russia. to pay the price for the damage it caused to ukraine, and we were pioneers in the introduction of such legislation, regarding the use of frozen russian assets for the recovery of ukraine, and these assets are not only state assets, this is also the property of private

individuals and legal entities in estonia. all those who are under international sanctions, the law was passed recently, and the regulatory processes are still ongoing, because everything... to comply with international rules, so that we do not create unnecessary problems for ukraine, the next years, so we are working on it now, and i think that we have great progress in this direction, is happening, i hope that we can demonstrate to the whole world that it is possible, that it is possible to use all frozen assets and profits from these assets, not only directly. profits just because we held these assets before, you set

a very great example for western countries by passing this law, other countries in your opinion, personal opinion, why they don't pass such laws, just your personal opinion, because of fear, or maybe something else, it's very difficult for me. to say why certain countries do something or don't do something, but i think that there are still some legal issues, legal issues that countries are discussing, but estonia is really ours the national legislation tried to make it look like this... to introduce that we can do it without violating european or international legislation.

and i really hope that the western partners will see this, and will not delay and pass similar laws in their countries. well, now let's move on to something else. ae post-war reconstruction of ukraine. after all, this reconstruction is already underway in different parts of ukraine, including those that were under temporary occupation in the first days of the war. please tell me, does estonia have any projects, in this case, state or non -state projects that help rebuild ukrainian cities and villages. yes, yes, of course, as i already said, we started this work already in the 22nd year, and all these projects related to reconstruction in ukraine began then, in particular in the zhytomyr region, this is a condition. but ours, our region, our region, since estonia is a small country, and we have

limited resources, and we thought that we should approach the issue of restoring ukraine very comprehensively, so we chose one region, one region for ourselves, and we provide assistance regarding the reconstruction right there, we helped to build a new kindergarten and... we conduct training for teachers, educators, in order for such assistance to be long-term, just not just to build one house or one shelter, but to help in such a way that it is long-term and covered the problems faced by a specific region, of course, but we talked about the money that... from estonia, or, for example, the military support that goes from estonia to ukraine, let's talk now about the help that is received

ukrainians who are currently in the territory of the republic of estonia, do you have any statistics at this very moment, exactly how many citizens of ukraine are there, and is there any tendency to return to ukraine? yes, of course, we have statistics regarding ukrainians who... are now living in estonia, and we provided them from the first day of their arrival in estonia, any assistance, any assistance that we could provide, this is medical assistance, social protection, education, we also opened two special schools, specialized schools for ukrainian children, where they can... be educated in the estonian language, but keep their language, their culture, and

can study according to the ukrainian curriculum, so we are trying to do everything for the ukrainian refugees who are in estonia so that they do not were losing this connection with their country, with their culture, of course, we have other plans about... but the main slogan of the government is that it is necessary for ukrainians to feel that they are welcome here. in estonia, and i can confidently say that ukrainians in estonia definitely feel that they are welcomed in this country, because my daughter has been living in the territory of the republic of estonia for more than two years, she studies there and she knows how estonians think, how estonians help and yakonians try to do everything for to bring our joint victory over the russian aggressor closer.

now a little bit about the victory in estonia, besides... of course women and children, there are many men who got it, it's not temporary shelter, temporary protection, it's called, as far as i understand, in estonia, tell me, please, now in many, at least in eastern european countries, they are talking about the fact that they are somehow trying to cooperate with the government of ukraine regarding men who are subject to conscription into the army, and who are militarily obligated in order to somehow help ... these men, well , at least register in ukraine, in the relevant authorities, and maybe even return to ukraine, is there something similar in estonia? yes, such discussions, such requests began to arrive some time ago, but ours

previous prime minister. said that since people live in the territory of estonia legally, we granted them temporary permits for residence and temporary protection, and we do not plan to send them back to ukraine, because we have rules, we have obligations. and this also comes from european legislation, that is, we have no plans to send them back to ukraine, however, in this sense we cooperate with the ukrainian authorities, with the ukrainian embassy in tallinn, and we understand that there are needs in ukraine, but i think

that many ukrainians living in ukraine, they want to return. to their country, they are waiting for such a plot, for opportunities, to return, this was one of the reasons why we started reconstruction so early, so that people could see the future, we have kindergartens, our local communities, etc., so that people have it is easier to return, of course we are cooperating with the ukrainian... authorities in order to understand how we can help the ukrainians, but as i say, we are not going to send them back if they do not want it, of course, madam ambassador, one more thing question, and the question can be asked from ukrainian students studying in

estonia, recently, well, literally a month or two ago, information appeared that, for example, in lithuania... they are going to or have already passed a law, according to which they will deprive ukrainians of benefits exchange students, are they going to do something like that in estonia or not? we have ukrainian students who have been studying in estonian universities for many years, even before the full-scale war began, and there are many. students we have, and we are proud of them, because they are very smart, they are very eager to learn, and so far i have not had any information about the government's plans to stop the assistance from the programs that are currently active,

so ukrainian students should calm down, that's all. will be good thanks to our brothers and sisters in estonia of course. now, let's once again return to the topic of war, unfortunately, and talk about red lines, there is a lot of talk about these red lines in the west, for some they exist, for some they are clearly defined, for some they are very unclear, but for estonia , in this war, in our joint war, i will call it that, in our joint war with the russian aggressor. are there any red lines? this is my favorite question. thanks for him, estonia never talked about any red lines, for us the most important thing, one of the most important things, is

integrity, territorial integrity, democracy, cultural identity of people, and we strive for that in estonia, in our country, and that's what we really like it in ukraine. and we don't see any red lines when it comes to russia's brutal war against ukraine, all the war crimes, genocide that they committed, we believe that there cannot be any red lines here, and our goal is to preserve them. ukrainian independence, democracy, territorial integrity, so we

support ukraine in everything we can so that it can achieve these goals, and accordingly, we do not see any red lines here as such. the government has already said on many occasions that we are ready to discuss any possibility of helping ukrainians, and the most important thing is to help ukraine itself to win this war, then we are ready to discuss any solutions, ways, but since we are a small country, we... understand that we need to cooperate with other countries, move together, then it will be

easier to discuss these issues with our partners, and we are ready to be a pioneer in certain solutions, so our red line, if i can call it that, or blue-yellow line, is precisely to help ukraine. in this war, just great words, this is not a red line, but a yellow-blue line, and this is to help ukraine, to win this aggressive war, this simply, simply incredible, i thank you very much for this, but look, in estonia itself, i understand that you are now trying your best to help us win this war, but in estonia they are not considering, i will not say so, or they are preparing, directly i will say, are they preparing... in estonia for a possible attack from russia now, because there was a lot of talk about it at the beginning of the invasion of ukraine 2.5 years ago, but are they talking about it now in estonia?

of course, when we became an independent state in the early 90s, we are always very careful treated... as for the fact that russia has no plans to invade, and we have always talked about a possible threat from russia in nato and in the eu, we, we warned other countries about this, so... we have been preparing for self-defense for a long time, since the beginning of the 90s, that is why we wanted to acquire membership in

the eu, and we wanted to join nato, we have been preparing step by step for this, and every year we have increased our spending on defense, on defense . so yes, we are preparing and we continue to prepare, i can't say that we started thinking about it or preparing only after 14 years, when russia occupied part of ukraine, or after the beginning of the full. we did something step by step every day to protect ourselves from this evil, and

we must always prepare for this evil. to forbid, because this evil is not foreseen, this evil can attack in any wave, i witnessed this in february 2022, so we must constantly prepare. let me say two more words about ordinary estonians: your country is small, but as far as i know, different people live in different parts, of course, what is the attitude after 2.5 years of a full-scale invasion of ukraine by estonians, before the support of your government. and to what is happening in ukraine, why am i asking, because as far as i know, in the north-east of estonia, in the narva region, there are a lot of russian-speaking estonian citizens living there, do they support all the actions of your estonian government in support of ukraine? yes, for many years we have a russian-speaking minority

that... lives in estonia, we have been trying to integrate them into estonian society, for almost 30 years now, and of course what we see is a certain contingent of people who do not want this integration, they still look more towards russia, but estonian estonian society and government. we of course support ukraine and further it is not even a question of reducing such aid, i think that since the war has been going on for more than 2.5 years, and the brutality of the putin regime

is increasing every day, it is intensifying and... we are ready to help ukraine in the long term , not only to win, but also to restore further, so the support is increasing, i can say, and if look at the non-governmental organizations of ordinary citizens who help ukraine, we see that every month or even every week support. from ordinary estonians who collect or provide humanitarian aid, just yesterday i read that three estonian non-governmental organizations, which have been helping ukraine for more than 2.5 years, again sent a new aid column to ukraine. and

there were medical products, and drones, and military aid for the front, for the army, for the rank and file, they help and the aid continues, it comes and even increases in volumes, how much, as i said, is the capture of ukraine. will decrease, it will only increase, well, it is happening and of course our support is not mutual admiration, i must tell you, we admire the estonians for their support and help to ukraine from the very beginning, because in

some countries they are trying to find... some things to justify that that they do not want to help, and we admire the estonians, who have helped and supported us since the first day of the war, madam ambassador, i thank you very much for visiting me today and the last question for you, you have been in ukraine for a year, i understand that you have a busy schedule, you came to us after an important meeting, i mean for an interview, and you have many such meetings, but do you have time did you have time this year to travel a little in... do you travel ukraine, do you have a favorite place in ukraine? when i came to ukraine a year ago, i told my colleagues that i am the ambassador in ukraine, not in kyiv, which means that i have to travel a lot and see how local communities live, i have to communicate.