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it has been clear to everyone for a long time that the iranian threat will sooner or later raise the question that we will... launch such large-scale attacks from our territory, not from the territory of some there are proxies, and they speak very loudly to the whole world about that and once again emphasize that their main goal is the destruction of israel, and this is not some figurative, some artistic means of expressing an opinion, it is actually the ideology of iran's iranian policy on today, from the moment the slum revolution of 1979 began there, it is impossible to say that all those who are experiencing it are very calm, because like any society, including the israeli one, it is very divided, there is a certain category of people , who are really very seriously

worried, trying to buy radio receivers, some kind of products that may be needed during power outages, lack of water. and other things, but there are people who, on the contrary, treat it with humor and say, well, listen, you promised there the next day after the liquidation of the khan, you they promised there in two days, well, when already, when, and about this there are many memes on the internet, in conversations, in principle on the streets, that is , the attitude is ambiguous, the military always say that if something happens, we will always warn you and make a decision to warn in advance , provided, if there is... some serious threat, as was the case, for example, in april, when israel suffered a massive attack from iran. are there those people who left the country and would rather stay somewhere else? actually, ah, i guess, of course there are those who worry

in this way, and in fact, in my opinion, the peak of such events, it was and departures were just at the beginning. ah, this war was last year on the 7th-10th, the 23rd, after that there was more of a decline, and if you look at the flights, now more evacuation flights are arriving in israel, because there are a large number of people who are now refusal of certain airlines to fly to israel, forced to stay in european and world airports and wait for additional flights, which are currently there israeli airlines. izrayarkiya, ayyal are sent from everywhere, from other directions precisely in order to evacuate to israel those people who were stuck there on vacation or on business trips, and in addition, there was such information that in

case of problems with air traffic, people will be brought to israel by sea, that is, in principles, whether there is such a thing, i don’t know, now... the mood in society is high, well , after so many months of struggle, war, in fact, and with hamas, are people now ready to fight with everyone against everyone and so further, or on the contrary, now there is more fear of the unknown? can't talk about the fact that there is some public opinion, yes, because any society is segregated in a certain way, so the israeli one is not exclusive, and... if we talk about the mentality of israelis and ukrainians, there are a lot of similar features that remind and behavior patterns that resemble each other. well, society in israel is very segregated, there is a certain, certain category of rightists there, there is a category of leftists, there are centrists, you know that

the protests against the current government taking office there have not subsided for months, against the fact that was already... actually how the fastest deal with hamas and the release of all the prisoners, ah, so i can't say there's an uplift, yeah, when i talk there with... those who are in the reserve, in milumim, those people really understand, what work they are doing, it is as if civilians who were called to perform certain tasks according to their military specialization, they have an understanding of what they are doing, why they are doing it, they see the results of their work, and of course that they want to continue according to there those orders that they receive because they understand... logic, it is much more difficult for civilians to find logic in

certain decisions, because, for example, there are people whose loved ones have been held captive by hamas for many, many days, no one knows what happened they are happening, that is, we know certain facts from those who were released from captivity, who came out as a result of previous exchanges or as a result of special operations for the release of hostages, a lot of bodies were returned. to israel were the bodies of those killed in military operations, when the israeli army conducted search operations on a certain territory, the remains of the bodies of israelis killed by hamas terrorists were found, who were kidnapped and killed, and then their bodies were stored in order to be exchanged again for live terrorists who are in israeli prisons, and one can understand, in principle, any any... segment of israeli society, because everyone has their own motivation, everyone has their own

understanding, does it interfere with any general plans, i don't know the state, i can't say, because if there is a government of national unity, who there performs the tasks that were before him set by him, these tasks that they set for themselves, in order to achieve victory over hamas, as stated. uh, listen, just one last question, one of the examples of what we can learn from israel, and we actually have a lot of things we can learn from israel, but it means that we're both countries are actually at war like this, and it's interesting , that, of course, the ukrainian war, it is before, well, it is global, it is to a certain extent existential, and, but in the end, the same can be said about israel as well, by a large to a degree that is constantly in the struggle for its own sake for its own survival. countries, mm, it is amazing for us to see how israel preserves both democracy, and the freedom of the economic market, and

the rule of law, and ultimately freedom of speech, even in such difficult conditions as implacable, it seems to the opponents, yes, one way or another, but a few months can function in some joint government and manage the state, that is, find a common language and compromises and so on with words. these are all things that i think we could learn from israel. madam, mr. ilya, on yours opinion, in principle, ukraine can for some reason adopt something here just now, or our society and traditions are simply too different to try to copy something, well, for example, the same thing, i don’t know if admiral gagari still gives brikhings every day for everyone in need. well, not every day he gives, he gives briefings when there are certain changes. in an operation or in society, they do not happen so often now, but

they still happen when, well, it is really important for society. i will say that not only israel, not only ukraine has a lot to learn in israel, but israel also has a lot to learn from ukraine, and because the experience that ukraine now has in terms of combating the same iranian drones is, in principle , a russian threat, and we know that now... russia transfers to iran or has already dropped the is-400 complexes there, which us analysts are talking about, and electronic warfare systems, murmansk bn, which are capable of shutting down everything there for 500 km, but returning to the question, i think that the question is not only in some specifics, simply for the israelis and for israel, war can be said by... a permanent state, and if we are talking about barter between people, then, let's say,

we can have completely different opinions, on the street at the table, but when it comes to the question of existence and solving some important issues there within the army or unit, then there is no division into left and right, there are clear boundaries when we protect certain interests based on... the state and everyone perfectly understands what these interests are, this is democracy, this is justice, this is all why everyone is educated in principle, every normal person in anything. in the world, and i will say, in addition to the fact that it seems to me that the key to a certain success in israel is that the vast majority of israeli politicians, businessmen found their way, started their way in the ranks of the israeli armed forces and in the israel defense forces, if you look to the last

plate, which shows which educational institutions and which school. life there led to where the best top entrepreneurs of the world came from, then fourth, in fourth place is israel , the israeli army is where the most went from authors of some startups or really interesting scientific or business developments, so it seems to me that the basis of a successful state should be politicians and those public activists who understand... the price of military brotherhood, who understand what it is to be at war, what it is to be in one tent, in the same trench and support each other, because entering the army there at the age of 18, every israeli, israeli gets a lot of contacts and friends for life, ugh, and with these people they go further,

and with these people they develop together , a then we all together build the country in which everyone wants to live. this is a good example for ukraine to follow. mr. ilya, thank you. ilya zenstein, a blogger, entrepreneur, public figure from israel joined us and talked about the current situation there. and how people live in anticipation of the war declared by iran. let's go for a short break, then we'll talk about what, what can happen to the energy industry of russia, and ukrainian energy as well. stay with us. there are discounts until independence day on magne b6 10% in psyllany bam and oskad pharmacies. when you sleep on an uneven surface, the spine takes the wrong position, because you cannot feel energetic in the morning and productive during the day. and with toper matryk, you will forget that you are sleeping on an imperfect surface. order a matryk topper for comfortable sleep at an affordable

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it became very nice, but there is one, you know, and we hope that it will be for a long time, but there is such a note, and how long will this happiness last, i already thought, you know, to put this charging station on olx, and i think, what are they for i gave up, look, i've been in power engineering for many years, i remember the beginning of the 90s. and when i explained, i said: people, well, electricity is the main civilizational component of modern life. without electricity, everything else almost loses its meaning. let's do something, let's pay for electricity, let's have it engage in reconstruction, modernization, so that we have a reliable electricity supply for the majority of people. it seemed that the electricity is in the socket, here the energy workers are pushing that they have no money, somewhere in the sky, or the sun, they take all the electricity and so on,

now we felt it, and you see what a joy, i am also very pleased, why , because we have started the grape harvest season, the first for egrets, and because if there is no electricity, everything will be completely ruined and we will have nothing, why did this happen, why such... the regime, firstly, there are no such high temperatures and consumption has decreased, secondly, some equipment at nuclear power plants came out after the repair of power units, this helped to balance, no information is not open, well, i am sure that at thermal power plants power plants are undergoing restoration of power units, i think... several power units have been restored and connected to the network, we will not say where and which ones, because we know why, and therefore today the situation

is balanced, together with the import of electricity, and ukrenergo does not have of the need to apply schedules of emergency shutdowns, stabilization shutdowns, we must remember this for this period, so in the winter ahead, there will not only be shelling and destruction there, that's why we, yes, we rejoice calmly, but are ready for various development of events, and the energy industry at that time we, they work, they restore, as networks, as substations, at power plants, power units, they occupy improve the market, that was accepted. a recent decision on the application of the ancillary services market is very complex a technical and energy thing, i won’t explain, but

the energy market is being improved in parallel, that is , the algorithm of relations on the energy market, energy companies are working and believe me, i want you to believe, they are doing and will do everything possible and impossible so that we do not have the electricity was cut off, but what if... there are some cuts, just so you know, there is no export of electricity, there is no or any other such things, it is simply extremely necessary to preserve the operability of the power system and prevent a total blackout blackout let's talk about the events that are currently unfolding in the kursk region, which are said to be one of the goals of the offensive on the kursk region. could be energy, when they say that, what do they mean, mr. ivan? well, they mean, first of all, it is a gas transfer station, it is like a center where two,

two main gas pipelines converge, this, urengoy, pamara, uzhgorod, progress, this is, well, so to speak, the hub of the gas transportation systems of urengoy, pamara, uzhhorod, which pumped. to europe a huge amount of gas and project the capacity is 180 billion cubic meters per year, we pumped as much as possible, somewhere around 35-36 billion , but we did not reach that level, and the main thing is that at this gas pumping station, there are gas accounting meters, unfortunately , there are none on the territory of ukraine. gas accounting, there is gas accounting, er, here, this is such a powerful object of the gas transportation system, it works, the transit is unstoppable,

it works. in regular mode, despite the fact that he is surrounded, well, we do not have official information about who is there, how there is from the leadership of ukraine, yes, we supposedly know, but there is no, and therefore, it is very difficult to comment on such closed information, if it is anonymous, but the gas transportation system is working, it is surrounded by our military, and and there... well, as if the situation is like this, i do not think that anyone will close this a valve for pumping gas to hungary, who buys from us slovakia, austria, this will continue, but i believe that the algorithm in this pumping of gas to europe should be changed, because the

contract that is in force today. it is valid until january 1, it provides that, for example, hungary or slovakia will pay gazprom for gas and for transportation on the territory of ukraine, and gazprom is already paying ukraine, and well, this continues even today. and it is necessary to change, buy gas at the border of russia, ukraine, so that they buy this gas, we say to us, they can buy in turkmenistan, in kazakhstan and so on. already for the transit through the territory of ukraine , there should be an agreement with uktransgaz and it pays already in ukraine, so that we have contractual relations, so while the issue is being resolved, the transit will continue after the new year, it will not continue, i think it is first of all, such a question is political, in terms of economics, it is secondary. mr. ivan,

we literally have two minutes left, really. fresh information dmytro pletenchuk, the spokesman of the ukrainian navy released a video of a night attack on one of the gas platforms in the black sea, as far as i understand, it was completely destroyed as a result of the attack, i think we can show this video, and you just comment, we have a minute or two , that's a lot of power, i know that there are always about 50 working in such a platform people, i understand that... what could be there , well, it's me, i'm looking at it, it's similar to the platform that was purchased, remember, the famous boyko towers, it's very powerful, and they have a large volume there, and i think that if it is not destroyed, well, if it can be considered a success, it is huge, in fact, it is several meters high, maybe even meters, and it

was used there by the russian... military for storing weapons, remember , we have already dealt with it there, but i would like to talk about the kurdish nuclear plant in the remaining time station, a minute, a minute, the kurdish nuclear power station, there are several tens of kilometers to it, and it is such a facility, well, nuclear, we understand, there are rbmk power units, which were at the... nuclear power station at chornobyl, so there must be be very careful not to repeat what the russians did with the zaporozhye nuclear plant, that is, even if it is surrounded, a corridor must be made so that licensed personnel can work at the plant for this purpose, and most importantly, all actions, well, if not agreed, but coordinated with the magathe , so that , god forbid, they don't get us first

accused of... nuclear terrorism, and the russians, they, they are ready for anything, they can make any huge provocation at the kursk nuclear plant and blame ukraine, and it will be very, very difficult, especially, well, if at the international level , because this is a very, very important thing. mr. ivan, thank you, ivan khlachko, the minister of management and energy of ukraine in 2005-2006, and the chairman of the union council of the all-ukrainian energy assembly was with us, and now with us. anna yelamelnyka, this means that we are watching a fresh selection of news that happened there in ukraine and the world. anna evo, you have a word. greetings, colleagues, thank you for your work, we, the news editorial team, will continue to work , and i will tell you about the most important thing, in particular, why belarus is transferring equipment close to ukraine. all the details are below, stay with us.