because this is exactly the process that we try not to discuss, and we showed certain first days of marking there, so that people would already be saturated with a little information, so that they would understand that something is happening, because to contemplate how for three days, everyone is eating this russian information space , being in a ten-year war, in particular in the information space, well, it is difficult, but as it is, due to the fact that there are differences in how many have taken, how many have passed. because no one knows anything, and everyone is trying to guess somewhere, to draw something of their own someone has their own sources, by the way, the international media is such a funny process, when our military-political leadership is silent, they do not give comments, it was already mentioned, well, it was quite funny, and they start there an unnamed general from the general staff, no advisor to the president's office is named there, no one else is named there. someone,

well, i don't know, i call it a fantasy, because somehow, in a different way, i guess to come to the point of even writing something about it, and they have nothing, they come out of such and such, and that's why, that's why the numbers are different, everyone is trying to guess something somewhere, of course everyone reads, oh there, the warlords wrote russian, they wrote russian, they wrote russian, i have only one question, since when did the russians become the source, after all the lies, after all that , what we and they... already experienced in the war, that's all, by the way, this is a really comical moment, if i'm not mistaken, the bloomberg publication recently published an article that the general staff does not pick up the phone and does not comment on these events, but saying about the advancement of our troops, actually here we have a wonderful video from the village of oktyabrska, i will ask the editors to show it now, there is simply... a lot of burned equipment is standing

along the road, this road, by the way, leads directly to the regional center, to kursk, and to the kurdistan nuclear power plant, eh well, it is noticeable that the village of oktyabrske is located some 50 km from sudzhia, from which the entire information space began to discuss the offensive. in kursk region. mr. roman, what do you think it means that our forces are going to kursk? maybe, maybe now again after all , it is difficult and unnecessary to draw an exact zone where our military is located , and we do not know the tasks that are set there, and that is good, the military leadership knows about them, they are his today, they implement these tasks. and who is interested,

wants to know more, please join the guys in all these landings, these roads and learn about all the plans that interest you. kurdsk, as, gas distribution station, something else, unknown, and it's great, what is unknown, we see the results, here is a video with the defeat of this column, enjoy, i'm sure there will be more of this, and already the consequences. we will see with time, of course, i would like to talk to you about the military forces of the enemy, which he has in the kursk region, in fact, we saw a lot of strange information, in particular about the kadyrivites, who blocked themselves there, then went somewhere in the wrong direction side, then they declared that they had run away with our troops, but what is actually happening, is there anything on the territory of the kursk region?

are there any troops at all that can oppose us? well, for today, if you look because of what we have, they met, met, the first are, as they call, conscripts, akhmat is running somewhere, it is not known where, i am taking some baths there, that they are at the front, forcing their own soldiers from the russian federation, sorry if they say something there that they weren't there, it's very funny and very mysterious, but brainy, they have certain resources, they are already charging them, it's very funny again to watch how they shoot it all, where they go, where they concentrate there , and i'm sure that everyone will use this, and usually, if to look at the previous actions, they unfolded quite quickly, i don’t know if they knew that something... would happen and they were already

ready, or if they really had reserves somewhere and they usually involved the rosguard, these are not so insignificant forces, literally the police are like the military. forces, but today it is more and more serious, they are now gathering such already regular troops, there they are collecting equipment, how they will implement it, where, so far, not much is known, here we will also see in time how they will occupy some positions, there is information that they are charging from different directions, first of all it is belgorod, that is, the northern borders of kharkiv oblast, where they, they gathered a fairly significant group there, and on the one hand... at that time, as kharkiv oblast was discussed, one could think , and they could have such tasks, to implement all this concentration of forces at once, but they start them gradually, by which they delay time, hold a certain territory, and again, they delay our reserves, and they

have the resources for this, no more they keep this entire territory there for a day or a week one group that is being destroyed is immediately followed by another, and so day after day, therefore... these forces that they have concentrated there, there is certain information that they are transferring it to the khursk district, then there was information that they are also coming from the south , it’s a long time to cross over there from one point to another, but i’m sorry, i’ll clarify from the south, what exactly do you mean, the south, zaporizhzhia district, kherson oblast, so be it, i don’t know for sure, just the south, where they occupied the territory, and... and this is also not reliably known, that is, here time will tell, first of all, it always, when they moved something, it got out later where they lit up, then time is still needed for overturning, on the one hand, they know how to do it, they

are constantly pulling somewhere along the front, and only they see some opportunity there for promotion, for a favorable situation, they throw reserves there, use them quickly, on the other hand, here it is so unexpected that... it has started, so of course they are already withdrawing it, they will do it, but how do they implement it and, er, will they succeed with that informational disorganization, first of all, as it is, here we will see, i hope our defense forces will destroy them and everything will be fine, and as for the use of missiles, as far as i understand, this is perhaps the biggest obstacle that our forces are currently facing... kursk region, and it is not only kursk region, it is everywhere along the entire front line, first of all, they always had an advantage, and this is such a key, one of the main, or rather, means - it is aviation with their cabs, fabs, and speaking there along the front line, this is now the district

pokrovska, turetska there, they began to work very actively, in particular, when they had an advance and still have, they concentrated all this attention and inflicting damage on populated areas, on the positions of ukrainian troops. and as they do, they simply wipe everything to zero, and then already the infantry, and they are simply swarming there, they continue to advance there and in these simple conditions it is very difficult to somehow conduct battles, and nevertheless our defense forces are trying to delay all this pressure , so they are also not an exception in the kursk region they will apply it all, that's how they did it in the area of ​​kharkiv region on the northern borders, vovchansk was simply destroyed in the first place. what about kabas and fabas, that's what they did in the interim, in marinka, in bakhmut, that is, this is now one of their main tactics, and this, unfortunately, is an advantage, but now they will have to erase the flooding of the land in their own settlements, which can't help but be happy, er, not happy, but

it looks strange, because they are good, that there are military men, whom they throw for meat and they are simply not these. t them, and these soldiers are all the same they are trusted there, they go to battle, they don’t slaughter and everything, but when civilians fly in, they are ready to demolish entire settlements of their own people, their own houses, it looks wild and strange, and the fact that the population is all right there supports, i don't know, it's some kind of madness and madness, just some kind of illness, well, of course they have some kind of separation too. as usual, this is in russian, when there is a local government there, there are soldiers there, and they go out and shoot vladimir vladimirovich will do something, that is , they have a king and god - there is only one ruler theirs, and that's it, and they don't see anything anymore, although he is the one who approves it in the first place and gives the orders to bomb them there, so i

understood you correctly that at the moment there is no improvement in the situation for our forces in other directions. "well, unfortunately, it's not like there's no improvement, it's just difficult, because the enemy has concentrated a lot of their forces, they're climbing continuously, especially..." they see some favorable moments, they see progress, and yes, as i already mentioned, one of their tactics, only they see something, any opportunity, they immediately begin to develop this opportunity to put pressure there, and this is what they are doing, so now it is important to restrain this pressure, which is carried out, in particular, in the pokrovska, turetska districts, these are probably the most discussed such districts now, although we still have the novomykhaivka district. that is, it is somewhere from the ugledar to kostyantynka, the route along which they

are trying to get out, in particular, then to the ugledar, this is the area of ​​krasnohorivka, georgiivka, maksimilyanivka, where they climb towards kurakhovoy, and there are also enough such heavy battles, and this is kharkiv east , i.e there is the settlement of pishchane, everyone can see this ledge to the borova highway kupyansk, puzzle kupyansk, that's why there are a lot of these difficult moments a... very often just similar processes happened when they accumulate their forces, just in the avdiyivka area, there probably the largest group, now after they took it, they are now implementing all this there, plus they have pulled up reserves there, because they see an opportunity to go on the road, that is , pokrovsk, myrnograd, kostiantynivka, and on these settlements, which are essential and essential some of the last ones are already so big, that's why they concentrated. only forces and begin to press, to storm, it was there in the area of ​​time ravine, it was in the area of ​​limanu, now

the pressure was essentially asleep there, it was in the area of ​​siversk, maryinka, when she was still there, because her, that is, these all the processes, and if you sum up this question, most likely this is how it comes down to it, is it appropriate to use these fresh forces that went to kurshchyna, and instead of going to toretsk and... pokrovsk, on the one hand, such a thesis, it justified, and this is what the westerners began to throw at us partners and westerns, those who are discussing on twitter, this is what some representatives of our population started to present there immediately, and of course the muscovites took advantage of this, they immediately started in the media space where they said, the military is rioting there. people are rioting, no one agrees, why should we go there, if we have these settlements and the like, on the one hand yes, and

this is a very big risk, this is exactly the wolf that is cornered, they took these risks, they went on these, such steps, that we are now realizing that more global and deeper goal, and it's worth it if you think about it and if there are really certain options that i used now for the future. they are given there from kursk, with the territory, we will have to use them one day, then it is worth it, the only question is whether it will be implemented, if it is implemented, well, i am sure, everyone will say, cool, it was really well thought out, and no one will remember already there was it worth it or not, if it is not implemented, i am 99% sure that everyone will remember toretsk, everyone will remember pokrovsk, that we screwed up here, screwed up there, nothing worked out, here is all this emotional but here you have to think with a cold mind, understand the risks, because we have no other option, and believe in the defense forces,

believe in our defense forces, those who do not agree - join, those who agree, help, or keep silent and say nothing, here and that's all, that 's why now of course stabilization measures are being carried out, certain reserves are being pulled up, there are many problems, but the most important thing is to contain this pressure in the pokrovska and turetska areas in order to... prevent it from advancing and of course then, if it works out here and there, it will be great. pokrovsk, turetsk, ughledar, kupyansk, if i understand correctly, the enemy does not withdraw reserves from these hot spots, hot areas, in order to transfer them to the kursk region. so far it has not been observed, and i again, as i mentioned before, even if they are there, if they pull something in the pokrupsk area, i doubt that the guys ... will feel it, because there are so many of them, just how much so many that there really aren't enough

resources to destroy them all, that's why it is, and i doubt that they will abandon this particular direction when they have such colossal opportunities, they would rather drag them from the south and kill for implementation there the cutting of the robot's performance, what they also set, and this is a more informational task, it is tactically, strategically absolutely not covered in any way. and does not give them any advantage, so i am sure that they are ready to withdraw some forces from there, but definitely not there from donetsk, i.e. pokrovsk and toretsk. or too great risks, i would like to talk with you more about the processes of evacuation of the civilian population of the kurdish region. if we talk about official statements, then we see that everything is there it is wonderful that all people are being evacuated, everyone is provided with everything, but nevertheless, we constantly

see statements, appeals from the local population, who simply shout: that they were abandoned and forgotten by the kremlin, in your opinion, how catastrophic is the humanitarian situation there now in the kurva region? maybe catastrophic, maybe not, because there are different, again, there are videos, there are different situations, someone was given four buses, as there was one video, and they are all happy there, someone left on their own, for someone there they organize some humanitarian... e handouts so that people at least received something, someone, someone was not taken out, there, this disorientation in the information space, there we did not hear immediately when it all started, evacuate there, run away, there they helped, what we heard in the information space, everyone was beaten off, everyone was expelled, everything is fine, and it was at the level of official

representatives of some authorities, so they did not pay attention to the civilian population, they still served them there. that is, they began to bomb them, there were already certain moments, and of course, now is the right time first of all, this informational disorientation, it affects this process, that everything is bad, they complain, and so be it, but then again, this is this madness in the head, when it is necessary to turn to a higher level, to which these have proven , what are they, they are gathering in a circle, recording a video video to vladimir vladimirovich, help us here... the governor of kursk and the mayor and everyone told us what to do and everything, so they deserved it, let them drive away everything they did to us myself, i hope and sincerely wish them to go through all the stages that we went through our population went through, not to receive humanitarian aid, so that their

houses were bombed, so that they would be left with nothing, so that at least, at least somewhere moved, and they thought that... maybe when you come to someone with the same thing, this is karma in action, in fact, it turns out that yes, mr. roman, we talked about the readiness of the enemy to take such actions, from our side, the bloomberg agency itself published information that russian intelligence two weeks before these events, allegedly reported the command, the military command about a possible invasion, however chapter. of the russian general staff, known to us as gerasimov, rejected this data and did not inform putin about it, do you think this is a sign that the russians underestimated us, or are they just now looking for an opportunity to justify themselves and are looking for a scapegoat from buvaev, there are two options, or bloomberg i didn't know anything, i

just wrote it and that's all, just under, well, it didn't happen. absolutely no other signs, on the other hand, the second, and maybe it was so, considering how now the same gerasimov and the russian military command in general in that area justify their actions, submit disinformation, everything was repelled, everything is fine, our units and the like are working there now, maybe the situation was such that they don’t know what to do now, although, well, we see, heads don’t fly to the public, everything is shown ... , everything is fine, everything is under control, it is not known how they are inside there, if it causes any conflicts, if it causes any trouble there, well, this is only a plus for us, everything, everything is absolutely negative, what is happening inside them now, everything in plus, were they ready, were they not, it now shows the result, the way things progress, how they react, did

they lie, if they lied, oh well, keep it up, we, we're all for it. and i also want to talk to you, we mentioned this a little at the beginning, about the reaction of our western partners to the situation, but actually we have statements, in particular the spokesman of the us state department , matthew miller, who said that ukraine's actions in the kursk region do not contradict us policy, as well as the head of the defense committee of the german bundestag, markus faber, who does not consider the use to be a problem. german weapons on the territory of the kursk region, is this not proof that these actions were or were coordinated with our defenses'. partners, or are they just now telling us that you can invade russian, the territory of the russian federation, where to decide for yourself? either it was

agreed, or they have no other choice now, and this is the genius, again , of the military-political leadership, i will not name the name there, so that they do not say that i am praising someone there, something else, and i will name it as just a state, some place, structure, institution, military-political leadership. which faced the fact, or did not inform, did, and now no one will show publicly that we have any differences, no one will say: open everything, we forbid you from everything, tomorrow we will not give help, well, this is a very big a significant plus then for the muscovites, who will see that this cannot be done, but we see something completely different in the public space, our partners can no longer do anything, if this is for... lie down the agreed position, then this is very excellent trolling muscovites, if not already agreed purely on the fact, well, thanks to them for their understanding and thanks

again to our military and political leadership, which implemented all this, was not afraid, and we finally showed strength, we finally accomplished what, to some extent, have been expected and asked for a long time, but why don't we do something similar, we did. well, let's hope this is just the beginning, mr. roman, thank you for a great conversation, that's all i have for now, i wish the espresso viewers all the best, we'll have some ads to come, stay tuned.

greetings, this is the saturday political club, my name is khrystyna yatskiv, and this program cannot be imagined without it. vitaly portnikova, he will certainly appear in a conversation with us already in the second part of our program, in the first part we will talk with distinguished guests, experts about the hottest events of recent days, and prevail, prevail, as you like, today on the air in we will discuss the breakthrough in the kursk region and certain events in the bilhorod region, perhaps we are watching the unfolding of these events now, a few days ago, let me remind you... of the kursk and sumy regions there was a border breach in the area of ​​the city of suja, and despite the active reaction of the russian side to these events, we still do not see any

comments from the ukrainian leadership or from the ukrainian military, which is probably not necessary now. there are no clear maps, there is no concrete clear understanding in which operational zone all these events are taking place. all we know. actually, events are taking place in interesting areas, also from the energy point of view, we are talking about gazprom facilities, some of which are already under the control of the defense forces of ukraine, and we are also talking about the kursk nuclear power plant, to which the russians are now drawing reinforcements for the defense of this facility, obviously playing a safe role. one way or another, we have a precedent, actually since 1944 , this is the first time the russian federation can

claim. about the fact that on its territory there are representatives of the military of another country. it is very interesting to watch how recently released russian liberals comment on this story, we will definitely talk about it, as putin's godmother, if i'm not mistaken, ksenia sobchak, who also considers herself to be a neo-innovator of her time and russian. a liberal comments on this story, and so there are meetings to help residents of the kursk region who have suffered, attention, these are now quotes, due to the actions of the armed forces of ukraine. can you imagine the trouble in the kursk region because of the armed forces, which is absolutely not true, the trouble in the kursk region because of putin, who started an aggressive war against our country, everything else is only the consequences of his decision and the decision

of the russian people. such a ruler. on communication from the studio oleksiy hetman, reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, good evening. we will be extremely careful, in the end, and we do not have any specific information, clear information for analysis, but we understand that this week the line of combat of the defense forces of ukraine with the russian army. has changed somewhat, it has become longer, it has become larger, if we say how it has changed the general picture of military operations in this war, what would you say please, well, it is starting to change the general picture of hostilities, because we will now see what is happening with the russian army, how they will redeploy forces, how they will raise reserves, well, many things will change, it has been since the sixth, four days

and... so far, well, to analyze and say how it will change, one can only assume certain things, but the fact that it will change is obvious, what will have the greatest influence on the changes, is it military actions, is it even a political component, an informational component, well so on, we remember that the war has not stopped to be hybrid, and it consists of informational, political, economic, and everything media that gets into it. under the name of hybrid war, it is a very successful raid, well, not a raid, it is not possible to use such a word, it is a very successful counterattack of our troops, and i am sure that soon we will begin to feel the results of these actions directly and in other areas of the front, it is unlikely something will change significantly in the pokrovsky, chisyurovsky tatar direction, because there are fighting operations of the group of the south of the russian so-called

and... and where the hostilities are currently taking place in kurshchyna, this is the north of the group, and they communicate with each other, but they do not exchange forces and means, well, at least so far this has not happened, so believe that they will start to withdraw troops from the pokrovsky district, unlikely, from klupinsky-limansk, maybe from kharkiv, 100% will be transferred from the reserves, from the leningrad military district, also obviously. can there be emergency workers there, we will see a lot, this is an event, it is, it is very, well, it is big and such a big balsa in the distance, we are not yet realized that it happened and what could happen next, it's not, well, it's not just like that at all, it's all well if you can put it on the shelves, but you know, i don't know how much time we have, so we can there is enough time to thoroughly

analyze. what is happening, but again, in my opinion, we do not have official data, clear data, they are not provided to us, there are objective reasons for this, we understand it perfectly, but to analyze very varied information from zpublics, i'm sorry, but what do i think about the informational hygiene of ukrainians at a higher level. mr. oleksiy, but if you go through the interesting details that have appeared. and are already evident in the context of this stage of the confrontation between russia and ukraine. to be honest, it absolutely amazes me how innovative they are being used lately, drones, they shoot down russian helicopters, they do damage right in the air, we shoot down russian drones with our drones, and this is also, in my opinion, an interesting know-how, can we talk about ...