them on our side, it is done very slowly, because propaganda is a conservative thing, just like human, uh, efforts to understand certain events, propaganda is only one of the directions, we are constantly being told that numerous crimes are recorded , the prosecutor's office works there, that is, these materials are collected, and then we get to one point, on the one hand, the russian aggressor says, we do not recognize any international pact organizations, they in the 14th year... actually destroyed international law, criminal at that number, and they will always say what a bitch, we let a bunch of people play because they were dispersing fakes, there was a theatrical production in buchi, there was also a theatrical production in mariupol, it's all ukrainian propaganda, they made it all up, there will be these materials on the other side, and then what will happen to it, until there is this moscow center, it will continue, but i said in relation to israel, israel wins all the wars

it has waged since 1948, it loses in the information war, and now again, yes, that's what i say, let's be how can israel win real wars, let him in the informational we we will lag behind a little, but according to your calculation, with so many recorded war crimes, will it be possible to attract not some goat from the buffalo, to really punish these people, because there are a lot of them. of criminals who committed war crimes, the torture chambers are the same as in the nkvd in all regions of ukraine, where they entered, in mass crimes, such as bucha, we mentioned, avdiyivka, in bakhmud, mariupol, vomchansk, we see simply destroyed and destinies, this true, well, mr. roman, let's be realistic, we all want to ukraine won this war, but it won't be easy and it won't be soon until we finally win. russia, it must be crushed, like

germany and japan during the second world war. just a minute, until it's shriveled up. in this way, it will be very difficult for us to advance towards this goal, to bring to justice all the criminals involved and those who gave them orders and followed them. well, what is this, this is realism. this is a real problem. we will win, then we will condemn everyone who is needed. but in order to defeat racism as a perpetuator. the nazi cause is necessary coalition, we know that during the second world war, there had to be a second front and many others, yes, in this case, we do not see the readiness of the west for the second or third fronts, well, mr. roman, well, let's remember history, although history is not always a correct method of evidence , in the 39th year, on september 1, the anniversary of the second world war began, when the americans opened the second... in the 44th year, what else do you have to say,

there is a certain inertia, here i was very inspired yesterday by a short message that one senator, no i remember his last name, suggested to the american pilots that retired, and they retire early , please fight with ukraine, ukraine can hire you as specialists, oh, this is very important, we have interbrigades of volunteers from different regions. if it happens that official such persons will be hired to fight on the side of ukraine, this will expand our capabilities, and the further, the more, they will not go anywhere, neither the americans, nor the europeans, if they correctly understand this balance of forces, they will be forced to fight together with us, ugh, well, we have been calling for it every morning congratulations to brigadier general yushchenko and we say that the french legion is welcome, odessa is waiting for it. simple and not soon, but it

will be, otherwise, ugh, now we come to the more important thing, why did i start with all these war crimes and fixations, because when the chekists exchange their killers for various ye yashins and other scumbags, then we get final confirmation , that there were two good russians, one escaped from the country, and the other... i beat nimtsov and nivzorov, but we can't find them anymore, because these good russians, like the so-called liberal the opposition never once called to stop putin, on the contrary, they talked about the fact that putin is a great collective, he is good, the sanctions should be lifted for him, and here we get to collective responsibility, all germans in one way or another were responsible for everything, for the holocaust, for the crimes of the second world war of the world, there was collective responsibility, well... not

the nazis, there were members of the ss and sd, they were completely different , not all germans responded, they responded, of course, the problems began in all of germany. but there were many germans in emigres who did not want to live under nazism, on the contrary, they started life after the victory over nazism, so let's not generalize widely, i agree with you about good russians, because i went through this school back in the 70s, in political camps there were many discussions in soviet prison, so... russian dissidents, that is, dissidents from russia, political prisoners, never understood us, that is , those from the national outskirts, as they said then, balts, georgians, armenians and most importantly ukrainians, did not understand what they told us, let's build a democratic soviet

union, the communist government is hindering us, we will overthrow it, and they did not understand what we understood from the very beginning, that it is impossible to democratize the soviet union. now the russian opposition, both abroad and inside, believes that it is possible to democratize this neo-imperial russia. this is the same mistake as in the 70s. in my opinion, many of my friends disagree with me about the dissident times in russia. and even here , not everyone agrees with me. i say, russia by definition in these borders with such a democrat can never become history. country, i am convinced of this, my whole life, struggle, dissidence, all of my points to this, it cannot and everything that is needed for this, we need to have peaceful states on our border that are not at war with us, such states can only be democratic, the kursk people's republic,

the belgorod republic, we need to depopulate russia, yes, but in this case, occupy it, divide it into natural parts, some of them... in 100 years will become democratic, but will still return to collective responsibility , because the units in one way or another protested them for some kind of fakes, imprisoned them, expelled them from the countries and so on, these units are really for the whole of russia, all the rest, all the rest are for the svo, for putin, even those who are now in kurshchyna, they are from that they will launch their outposts. in this case, when they are for svo, for everything that happens here, and how it should be distributed to them. criminal, political and financial responsibility after the end of hostilities, because what the russians, oppositionists, and liberals hate the most is to talk out loud about the payment of funds and reparations for ending they taboo it they are

more nervous than anything ok mr roman what are we going to think about them let's think about ourselves we need it we want it we need it let's live . to victory, to the crushing of russia and to the international court of criminals, all 150 million, believe me, no one will judge, even though they deserve to be condemned, because they voted in the majority for this government, for this putin, but the defeat itself will be such for them, and there won't be such a situation that, look, it's all putin guilty, he is gone, we will not pay you anything, we will not give reparations, because we are not guilty, let them say what they want, defeat is not cruel... there are opportunities to say this, no one will even give them a word, those , who will come to replace putin, come on, let's be realists, i'll say it again, we must win, before there will be no trial for them, so that we condemn the culprits of all, the executors of orders, those who

carried out these orders, and so it will take a lot of effort international court, and to judge all russians, they say, will be defeat itself condemnation for them. it will be such an upheaval, you have no idea how the defeats in those wars were for the germans and japanese, this upheaval gives catharsis, condemnation does not always give catharsis, that there is not even the appearance of any common idea to allow the russian empire to lose in today's czech dimension, there is a consensus on not letting ukraine lose, but russia's defeat is literal. no , fingers crossed for no, it's not like that, then maybe there won't be such a victory as we see it according to the consequences of history, maybe there won't be, i i want to believe that sooner or later, whatever it is, there will be no victory, there will be no trial, you will not condemn them without victory, well, what can i

say, the germans would not be condemned, and the japanese would not be condemned without victory over them , and with a crushing victory, without any tyranny of power, everything must be occupied, occupation. administration to divide russia there into 30-40 natural pieces and gradually introduce normal ones there, but the pieces are not ready to become separate states. we are literally, well, two subjects have historical memory, it can be in the caucasus and it can be tatarstan, today there are two, after there will be a lot of defeats, every governor will want to be the president of his region, the question is whether the occupation administration will give them such an opportunity, if it condemns them earlier, because they were the executors of putin's orders, and only unsullied people can claim to be, i... i say 100 years, before these pieces will not become democratic, it is a long way, this squeezing out this

imperialism, authoritarianism of the russian people. yes, to squeeze a slave by the drop, we also heard 100 years ago, and you say another plus 100 years, up to two hundred years of discourse, some of them, those closer to us, may become democratic. mr. yosif, and there is one more very important and sensitive point, here... well, we have a huge army of people who have contributed, contributed directly with their lives and activities to russian aggression, some with information, some with money, some politically, some different, not all of them are, as they say, medvedchuks, and putin did not manage to exchange all of them and take them to moscow, some of them wore embroidered shirts, they are louder than our soldiers, they say hello, glory to ukraine, and they say... does everyone have the right to be reborn, we reincarnated, don't move us, yes, this is

the sbu's problem, the sbu can't work on such a scale, it's bad, the population should get involved in this, in order to expose such criminals, the entire fifth column, everyone, what so what otherwise, he helps russia with his propaganda, by spreading his various pro-russian texts on the networks, all those who really helped, all those who directed rockets and bombardments at our objects, all must go to court, now they are caught, and i am talking about those who changed shoes, changing shoes is just that external, and we need to explore their path, we did not do lustration at the time, and this was our mistake, but it was determined by our development, i remember those early 90s, when dissidents in the former fields... emphasized that a full lustration should be carried out, no one who held a leading

position in the soviet union could continue, every member of the party could not continue to hold positions, even if they were rank-and-file members, no one could go to that, that is to say, we were doomed to this error, though when it comes to the country i do not use the term mistake, we were doomed to such a very slow contradictory path, and we are now moving on it... even during the war, even the war did not sober us, uh, what is your secret that almost every other person does not think about the war at all, it is according to the most optimistic estimates, lives his life, earns, sits in restaurants and so on, and what, this is also our problem, in 33 years we have not reached what i call a national consensus, when 80% of the population have the same ideas about the past . present and future of ukraine. we have approx 30% are now those who belong to civil

society, who can be relied on in ukraine. they provide everything. half of our army comes from civil society. all volunteers, all volunteers, are from here. civil society is the basis of future ukraine. but unfortunately, it is still far away. we have to go from 30% to 80. the hardest part was. there will be this hybrid transition, because we don't know how this war will be ended, it might just be, as they say, a reduction to, well, a freeze in the style of a war of low intensity, as was quite often the case in the state of israel, that is, it sometimes flares up and sometimes remains, and at the same time , the situation can be such as it is, for example, between the koreas or between russia and japan, well, that is , nothing is documented will be fixed, that's for sure, i agree with you, there will be nothing documentary. will not sign anything at all, and will not arrange any truce and any peace, there will not be, and we must

be ready for this, and not dream about the impossible. putin does not need a freeze, a freeze naturally, it is when both the parties are equally tired, exhausted, and then it is a freeze, not because the president, putin , wanted it, but because there is no longer an opportunity to fight, we are going to this point, but it is not. not yet close to us, what happened in the kursk region now increases our chances of exchanging territories, exchanging prisoners, and so on, but no more. we must, if our soldiers are entrenched there, which is what we want them to do, and they are not allowed to win back, it will be a very good trump card, but there will be no negotiations quickly. mr. yosif, concluding our conversation, i will summarize one thing thing: unlike our political class, putin is consistent, he said that the final solution of the ukrainian issue is the main

task, so it has not changed until today, he is not interested in territories or anything else. is interested in the disappearance of ukraine and ukrainians as a matter of fact, and in this case, and in this case, what should happen that putin got out of this unchanging narrative? well, i have been convinced for many years, even ten years, that the problem is not in putin, the problem is in the identity, in the identity of 150 million, in the imperial, authoritarian identity, no there will be putin, there will be more, there is a line of scoundrels. and there is no end in sight for her on the throne of this empire, we need to understand that it is not putin who is fighting us, but 150 million russians who are helped by north korea and china, but you said that the west will not let us lose, i almost believe it, but china will not let russia lose, they are kindred spirits, and both of them killed tens of millions of people in

the 20th century, the soviet union more than 100 million, china more... no repentance, no catharsis, no one is convicted for this, and those who today they naively believe that china can take our side, i'm sorry, but how is that possible? unfortunately, this is done by the political class with narratives about good chinese, mr. yosif, thank you very much for the conversation, our viewers are probably also grateful to you, yosif zisel, this is a dissident, singing, the president of ukraine, was with us, and at the end on our morning broadcast, we have good news for you, the founder of the cheffest festival, yuliya kapshichenko shumeiko, is with us. mrs. yulia, we congratulate you. good afternoon, nice to see you. well, the taras hryhorovych festival will be traditional in the village of morentsi on august 17-18. here's what we know. who, whom will you bring, how many people

are waiting for the mariners to stay after that. will the guests trample, eh, thank you, i’m very glad to be in your studio, our permanent information partners, it’s actually very sad without you, but it’s great with you, and yes, thanks for the question, morintsy will stay in place, and we’ve been without anyone for 10 years trampled, and people come, and they are greeted very cool by the locals, in fact, it's cool... such a duo, when there is a pilgrimage of ukrainians to shevchenko's compatriots, so everything will be in place, and indeed, today i joined to invite the public, those who see me, hear me, on august 17, 18 in morenka, and i think we will talk about the program a little later, but i am actually saying, tell me in detail what will be there,

and i know i have a lot of time, so i will tell you. that this year we have invited a group of groups down from the headliners, the cossack choir, the telniuk sisters will also come to the opening of the chefest, and we are also bringing a very interesting theater stage to us kharkiv state academic ukrainian drama is coming the taras shevchenko theater with the play shevchenko 2.0 and also the kyiv theater. meeting with vasat's performance, by the way, we always have a very strong theater scene, not only musical, but shefest is famous for its educational lawn, so we also invited interesting lecturers there, who will do more than reveal shevchenko's universe, and we thought that shevchenko's universe is also something about ukraine, these are topics around ukraine, and later,

we will touch on the crimean-tatar topic this time. there will be crimean tatar lecturers and musicians. intellectuals, who exactly are you inviting to this enlightening scene? yes, we invite ukrainian intellectuals, now i will spy on the program, spy, the main thing for us to know, yes, for example, kateryna borysenko will come, with a lecture by taras shevchenko and the polemical borokova. literature, as well as olena kozakova, happy moments where shevchenko is in them, and maryna navalna is from pereyaslov, director of pereyaslovsky. the museum of the shevchenkiv testament, shevchenko and pereyasny will come with a lecture, as well as maryana hirnyak,

with a lecture on the language of soviet totalitarianism, and valentyna sotnikova, will talk about the experience of decolonization, and also raise many other interesting issues, in particular , this year we will collect for a mavik for... the unit, where the leader of the tin sontsi group, serhiy vasyliuk, is currently fighting, and we are also with him have planned a small meeting with serhiy vasyliuk, he is being released from the front, we will actually have a lot of military topics , and master classes with the provision of first medical aid, that is, a festival in war, and even more so, we were founded exactly where 10 years ago, when the war was starting, he was not departs from such eternal topics, well, topics where you have to first protect yourself, secondly, donate to the army, thirdly - to

be able to provide first medical aid, oh, even this will be, well , that's right, cheffest, the same age as the russian-ukrainian war, and at the same time i know for sure that if i listen to the cossack choir, or someone down, i will want to eat, where will i go to eat, what will be served? cherkasy descendants of the cossacks and neighbors of shevchenko, well , first of all, we will have a food area there, but the most important thing is that it has always become such a visiting card of the showfest, we we are cooking borscht with crucian carp, it is taras shevchenko's favorite dish, and we learned to cook it, we have come a long way, i have already ordered crucian carp in morynstava, a local fisherman will be there... to collect those crucian carp for us, and the headman of the village of morentsi , larisa karychenko, dug up a bag of beets and a bag of potatoes for this, well, you also have cabbage, so we

will have a real bozh with crucians from the shevchenkov land with shevchenkov crucians, and in fact, it is very tasty, it is really a very tasty dish, and i recommend to eat it, we will treat her with it for... the contribution is charitable, you guys, it's a very cool idea, but you actually did a very interesting thing, i remember that when i tried petra's fish on the cinematography, we were also looking for which one the recipe, how it was prepared, you restored shevchenko's favorite borscht, it's just class, i'll remind you once again that you need to plan for august 17-18, because it will be the big chefest 2024, ms. yulia... thank you for being with the espresso viewers. yuliya kapshuchenko shumeiko, founder of the shevchenko fest festival, abbreviated chefest. well that's

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