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about the half-million-dollar bribe of the deputy minister of energy, it turned out that this person is not a simple person, and he distinguished himself even before he was appointed to this position, and there were separatist slogans on his facebook pages, and then he was still involved in many moments, but here the question, you know, is that the sbu says that this is all the exposure happened with the help of the minister of energy herman galushchenko himself. well, it is probably difficult for ukrainians to believe that the minister himself was not aware of what was happening with his deputies. to be honest, i don't know how to comment on this, but the fact that people of such a high rank and level in power engage in bribery, unfortunately, it has become a common phenomenon, you remember the story about trunks, how many there are three or four 4.7 million 4.7 in the trunk of the company that
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is connected with purchases in the ministry of defense, now 500 thousand bribes in the energy sector, deputy minister of energy, and i just can't imagine how to go to our western partners and ask for funds after that, today 4.2 billion was received as part of the european program for ukraine, i can only imagine the feeling of a european. which help ukraine, and in which such simple things are happening right before your eyes, well, these are grand little things, and i will tell you how, and then they will argue, look, we stopped these flows, we stopped, we exposed, we released, we are making reforms, and everything will be fine with us, so give us more, but here a story that was exposed already after bribery that this person, the deputy minister of energy, was exposed in 2018. on
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this, when a check on the integrity of his wife, the head or deputy head of the donetsk court of appeal was carried out, and on his facebook, in black and white, gloriously and clearly, as it is there, there is no ukrainian statehood, there was no, berkut was attacked on the maidan by the junta , how does this person get into power to such high positions, well, as far as i remember, before you get into power, you go through... you know, if during war officials of the special services are not checked, so something is wrong in the special services and in the state, when people of such a high level get into positions that are obvious sappers, well then it turns out that there are not fewer moscow moles and russian cans, but the opposite. it becomes more, and then what
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kind of victory will there be, and when will there be victory, if it is not just stealing, but it is also moscow’s meanness, you have limitations, yes, yes, in us in us, so far you have not violated them, mr. olazh, everything is fine, your algorithm, your vision, how can one overcome this moment when people with a very dirty past get back into power. lustration did not quite succeed in our country, some possible alternative system would have worked, there is now an opportunity to say that lustration did not succeed, because this purge, which took place in the 14th-18th year, it was very significant, starting from the armed forces of ukraine, i remember very well the 14th and 15th years, when our partners said that we cannot give you either data or weapons, because you are in the armed forces of ukraine. half traitors
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half bribers, there were such stories, unfortunately, unpleasant, in the 19th year we already had the armed forces, which still have one hundred percent trust of the people, one percent support of the people, so it was successful, it means there are mechanisms, and the most important thing, you know, was a selection mechanism was created, after all, this anti-corruption vertical, it worked and worked quite well, but in the 19th year the struggle of the authorities with the anti-corruption vertical began, remember, attempts to change the anti-corruption prosecutor, shuffling the nabu and yes, it still happened even before the start of full-scale aggression, i believe that it is complete. large-scale aggression was provoked not only by moscow moles, who began to return to power, but also by corruption and bribery, but putin felt that the state was becoming weaker, and of course he began to realize his goal, he always wanted to destroy ukraine, he wants to destroy it today, he will want
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to destroy ukraine and ukrainians tomorrow, our question is not to give him a single chance, and for this corruption should simply be burned out. well, we had a conversation with martyna bohuslavets before you, she was in direct contact with us in the past hour, and she actually talks about the fact that now, unfortunately, these, you know, such canned goods, they are now making themselves known, because, unfortunately, when the full-scale invasion and our state had to solve more urgent issues, so these inspections were canceled for a while, well, for obvious reasons, but 2.5 years of full-scale war have already passed, i don't understand the reasons. well, let's assume that maybe at this time it was a non-priority direction, but now 2.5 years of full-scale war have passed, wasn't this enough for our state to come up with mechanisms to filter people who enter such positions? well, there are mechanisms and the mechanisms
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have been worked out, but i understand that small cans will explode as long as there is a big can, you have to throw away the big can. can from the ukrainian political community, and then everything will fall into place, and the first such step towards throwing away the big can should be the termination of the activity of the kirill sect, when the fsb officers cover their epaulettes with priestly robes and talk about how a terrorist organization that is fighting against ukraine is operating behind the scenes, it is gloriously clear, you have seen this russian exhibition. army, military and space forces, it turns out to be the russian orthodox church. well, what else can you want, if they are gloriously, clearly not hiding, cyril announces a holy war against ukraine, the popes consecrate the equipment that kills ukrainians, they present at the exhibition that they are part of
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the russian world, the russian army and everything that is destroying ukraine, and we are taking so long to ban this fsb structure. but by the way, we want one more question about the structure of the fsb: in july, we were all waiting and there was already such a secret announcement in the assembly that today there is a sufficient number, there is even some will, but no, we went on vacation, these vacations will obviously last until september, during this time they found some kind of trick to not allow and delay the law again. the project, i mean, about banning the russian church in ukraine, did they find it? i believe that we do not have the right today as european solidarity, like all the people's deputies who stood with us at the podium, to retreat, because we said very clearly
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that the next issue that will be considered in the ukrainian parliament is the issue of ending this terrorist structure , which is covered with russian papal robes, i... i think that the authorities should also understand, it was felt by the mood in the parliament hall, it is not just 226 votes that confirmed in writing that they are ready to vote, you know, it was so and so the energy in the hall, this energy has not disappeared, on the contrary, today this energy is strengthened by the will of society, that is why i am convinced, i think, that the authorities will not dare to drag on until september, i am convinced that the authorities will convene a session of the parliament already in august, i and i don’t understand, for three weeks the deputies are going somewhere in circles, well, i understand that everyone finds something to do, someone helps , someone does something else, but our place in the session hall, our place in the adoption
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of bills, you see, the government has abandoned again this provocation with a promotion taxes, it is necessary to give a very clear answer that this cannot be, because it is a no from the point of view. economy is unacceptable from the point of view of the state, and it is very important that the parliament works, that the parliament show that there is money, that 500,000 should not be stolen, that 4 million should not be stolen and many, many other things, and that all this should be directed to the army today, we once again proposed very clear decisions regarding the budget, where to take it from and where it should be taken , and how much should be given to the ukrainian army, so i believe that this government will not drag it further until september, that we will take this step in august. mr. olezh, by the way, there is information from the president. volodymyr zelenskyi that the decision that will change our ukrainian spiritual independence will be
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made soon, and i asked this question to sofia fodyna and i will ask it to you, we understand that it is about saying beautifully and solemnly before the day of independence: look, we there decided to finally ban the moscow patriarchate in ukraine before independence day and present it as a great victory of a specific person, but we understand that many people were behind this process and not only from power, but also fame. by god, if he wants to take credit for himself, let him take credit. our question is that it was, this, this is not someone 's specific victory, it is not even the victory of some political force or those people who today, today, hundreds of local councils are turning to stefanchuk that, friend, call the ukrainian parliament, the question of the ban has become of the moscow sect of cyril, and if the president wants to lead this. process, but god, let him lead, we never fought for laurels of the winners, it is important for us that this
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decision is made, and we will vote for this decision, no matter who advocates it, no matter who wants to disrupt the ranks, the main thing is to make a decision, the main thing is to stop the activities of this terrorist organization in the ukrainian rear. we listened yesterday and today we are still reflecting on the statements of our american guests, senators. in particular, lynsey graham, although a republican, but we remember that he always supported us, his statements were always complimentary to our armed forces, and he always supported our attempts to get more packages of weapons and permits to use them further than we would like, it is very good that such people come to us, especially now in the context of the events in kurshchyna, but the question is why we do not attract those who... are not as positive and not as friendly towards us as lynsey graham himself. why don't we
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bring both democrats and republicans to kyiv now, don't invite those who are not convinced, who can be convinced here on the spot, showing what is happening here, what kind of war we have and how they are fighting against us, uh, what's behind this stands, because we understand that not all of our deputies can now travel abroad either, but bring them here to invite them, what is wrong with that, by the way, i think that you drew attention to... that together with the senator of the republicans was a democratic senator, that is, this is the standard of the free world, and this is actually what ukraine needs, we, god forbid, if we go back to history now, who is better, the democrats or the republicans, this is not the ukrainian way, bipartisan support is important to us , in the house of representatives, in the senate, it was always there ukrainian victory, bipartisan support in the congress, and also... in the election campaign, every meeting i have, it always raises the question of who
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will be the best president for ukraine, the democratic candidate or the republican candidate, and no, the best president of ukraine for ukraine, the best president of the united states for ukraine will be the one chosen by the americans, and ukraine should do everything so that whoever the americans choose supports ukraine, helps ukraine, for this we need to communicate, for this need accordingly, invite guests to us and go on visits, do not go when the congress is on vacation, that is, the deputies from the servants of the people went to the united states, when they began their parliamentary vacation, where did they go, who did they go to, what is the problem, well the problem is low professionalism, the problem is low qualifications, the problem is inexperience, because a lot of people have been in the parliament for 5 years... it seems to me that they have not understood what needs to be done there, and not just
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receive salaries in envelopes or something else it is not known what, so everything comes down to two things: the first thing is patriotism, the second thing is professionalism, by the way, i wanted to ask you, just now there are certain such rumors, and very recently a lot of hate for european solidarity has been dusted, as if because the fact that there are certain people's deputies who want... well, who propose that we eventually begin to send abroad, for example, the same deputies who travel with some diplomatic missions, and in certain circles there has been very strong criticism of this law. project, you can somehow react in general to, first of all, what this initiative is, perhaps simply in social networks they have already begun to interpret this draft law in their own way, and as a result, somehow, you know, it turns out that supposedly european solidarity wants to allow deputies to go abroad , although people do not understand the context, well, first of all, european solidarity cannot allow or
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not allow, because this is a norm of the constitution, by the way, the only ones... whose rights are not limited in any case to martial law, this is people's deputies of ukraine, therefore the eu or any other political force cannot, one way or another, because it is currently ensured as a norm of the constitution, but if we talk about this hate, you know, for some reason i remembered poroshenko's words during the meeting with the lviv students, he was asked what was the biggest hate you had when you realized that it was already the top. he said that the biggest hate, when he heard that he killed his brother and ate him, he says, then he realized that everything is already well, i think that what poured into european solidarity during the last four years, well, well , you can't come up with anything else, well, what else can you do, so every day there are darkness of hatred, we call them, that is, some topic where you understand that
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after reading this, you need to look for where your horns are and didn't they grow hooves on their feet, because well... a normal person, when he reads these dungeons of hatred, should perceive it all like that, but you don't need to pay attention to it, that is, there is a much bigger and more important matter, this is ukraine, this victory in the war. if we talk about this last dungeon of hatred, that the deputies from the eu want to escape to rest, to resorts, in fact the bill was about something else entirely, the bill was about two parts: the first part is ensuring demobilization. for those ukrainian soldiers who served, we offered 36 months, 18 of them on the front line, and the second part to give the opportunity to freely move around the country and outside the country, to those who are booked in defense enterprises, those who today have an assignment to perform relevant state
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tasks , well, it is not normal when an employee who has the relevant contracts today, who has from... the appropriate opportunities in order to help the country's defense capabilities, he must run after officials and collect some signatures, whether it is a people's deputy of ukraine, whether it is a designer of any plant, about this draft law they all rejected it and said: oh, they they want people's deputies to go to resorts, well, that's all a lie, but i'll say it again, this is not the dirtiest and blackest dungeon of hatred, so believe me, we are so... smiled at that, even reacting, if it was a pity waste time in fact, if we are talking about information security and cleanliness, then i am i understand that the matter is with the telegram and with the fact that somehow we should not control, but still check and allow those who are transparent and stand still to work. well, you know, telegram is such a story, where
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the influence of russian ipso is very great, it's true, because actually. this is a russian resource, just like viber, we very often neglect these things that concern security, we see that in some european countries in the united states, officials are not allowed to use certain resources, not informational, but technological, for security purposes, because they understand that other countries can draw information from this, if we understand that telegram is russian history, well, then surely we must understand that in this russian history there is a very large part of russian ipso, why is the government not taking steps, because it is very often the authorities also use telegram for certain e-information attacks. this last story, in my opinion, is with joker, a 209th servant of the people who travels around the world, including, well, i read that he even went
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to the battle of our usyk, gloriously, clearly, without any permits, approvals and so on well... if we have such facts, then we understand that these resources are probably beneficial within the country, but are they beneficial to ukraine. actually, we have a good example from lithuania, where it is not really about information, as about different channels, about ways of obtaining information, but also about means, but they forbade the use of chinese-made equipment in state institutions, because china is a country on the list of those countries who do not deserve on trust, it is quite good to initiate with huawei in the global context, in fact, it is very serious. i'm not i want to use the word restriction, has certain limits in those states that see a competitor in the producer's country. one more thing about access to
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information, mr. olezh, unfortunately, such stories are frequent , volunteers and law enforcement officers are already talking about it, here is a mother, wife, brother, military serviceman who does not come in contact, i am looking for a missing person. military, help. find, or posts, when you help to return from captivity my brother, my husband, and so on. there are people who saw and want to help, there are people who just sympathized, and there are fraudsters who they use this information, then they call, tell different stories, well, the most banal thing is that i will help them find it, i have information for some kind of reward, what to do with it, some kind of government scheme, how to stop it? do we have such fraudulent stories? well, firstly, that these are black and dark people who will definitely be punished, will be
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punished by society as well, but they will be punished, i am a religious person, i believe that they will be punished for what they do, because unfortunately, i communicate with many people whose relatives are either in captivity today or those who somewhere... as i saw on the internet, between heaven and earth, and this is when, when i heard this for the first time from the family, help, because my child is somewhere between heaven and earth, well, how can such a person be in to deceive in principle, or some fraudulent methods, is a big sin, and someone will definitely be punished for this, what to do, i think that one should not doubt for an iota, immediately involve law enforcement agencies, and it seems to me that law enforcement agencies are also here. .. and the court should apply the maximum to such swindlers, it cannot be here there's no little things there, there can't be any things that would disprove such actions, because it's,
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it's a very cruel deception, it's very unfair to the families, you know, the issue of prisoners can't be some party issue, it can't be some a political topic, the topic of prisoners - it should be a topic that embraces... there is a society to protect those guys, it is not sweet for anyone, there, well, god forbid, to end up and go through the trials that these people go through, but in order to better understand what tests ukraine is currently undergoing, we understand that it is necessary that our descendants, they study our history at the proper level, and now, unfortunately, we are faced with a situation when the ministry of education proposes to combine the history of ukraine with world history, twist the academic hours, well, can we... when i read this order from july 30 of the ministry of education, i didn't believe it, well, how, well, as if ukrainians,
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as if they were educated people, well, how can this be applied? i remember this attack, when they didn't want to include the history of ukraine in the final exam, well, i think we fought it back then, decided, so now they want to eliminate a whole subject, let's stop studying the language, and let's study something like that, let's study ukrainian literature, what is it for, it is world literature, it seems to me that, well, these cans, i don't know who tipped the forest minister, because i, i believe 100% that a person who went through the war, well, definitely could not sign such a thing, how it ended up, who did it, but it must be stopped very hard, and stop during the idea itself. because we fight because we we know our history, we are writing the history of ukraine today, we cannot not know, study and create the history of ukraine, so i am
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convinced that we will not give any chance to these scoundrels from education who want to commit such an insult to our memory, over our history, and what, for example, ukrainian society can do now to prevent this decision from passing, because we see that there are many... there are many decisions that the ministry adopts, despite the fact that people do not support it, but well i think that there is such a very big fuse against sudden movements, this the realization that confrontation is for the benefit of muscovites, on the other hand, we must understand that such things cannot be missed, so, in fact, the authorities monitor public sentiment very clearly, forgive me, i will go back, but at the beginning of the 22nd year. after the start of the full-scale aggression, the authorities said: "let's go back to non-aligned ukraine, let's go, only then there is, friends, only nato, only nato, our future, and we will convince."
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but even when society said: we are joining nato and the eu, the authorities ran to catch up with society. with the russian church, you see exactly that. we resisted and said: "no, it should be the spiritual independence of ukraine." the authorities, i understand, read sociology and began to catch up. and here the same story. we must stand behind the history of ukraine, the government will not go anywhere. thank you oleg sanyutko, people's deputy of ukraine, was in the espresso studio. we will now have a short break followed by news. stay with the espresso, you. there are 10% discounts on citramondarnitsa until independence day in the psyllany bam and oskad pharmacies. do you want to wake up as if you were a child at your grandmother's house? full of strength and energy! then the new product from mattress market is just for you! meet the perryina dreamlight mattress! the perina dreamlight mattress smooths out all the unevenness of old mattresses, sofas, folding beds, it can be
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greetings to everyone from espresso, this is news and with you anna yovamalnyk, i start this issue with this one, from the zolochiv community on all the children were taken away from kharkiv region, the society informed about it. the head of the local military administration, victor kovalenko, minors together with their parents were forced to leave their homes within the framework of mandatory evacuation, which the local authorities announced at the end of june. families from five settlements, which are under constant shelling by the occupiers, have moved to safer places.
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