of the city committee on education, science and innovation. mr. yaroslav, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening. ladies and gentlemen, we are asking our viewers and tv viewers what they think, whether the kursk operation of the armed forces of ukraine will be a disaster for russia. i will ask you about it. let's try to answer this question in the blitz poll format. ms. yevgenia, let's start with you. well, she is already becoming one, and for russia, such symbolic defeats, even humiliation, and well, this very badly affects the overall image of the so-called government and generally to the controllability of the situation. thank you, ms. yevgenia, mr. rostislav, i would also use the present continuous, and the present continuous tense, because it is unfolding before our eyes and...

it is very important what the next moves of our military will be, because we need to seize the initiative and press putin, because it is still far from a disaster, unfortunately, but there is a lot our military can do here, we need to focus on their support. thank you, mr. yaroslav, i don't think that this operation alone will, let's say, be a disaster, but this is definitely a new page. this is definitely a page that is written in our favor, and i think that the greatest effect will be psychological and even, probably not on putin, he probably has nothing left of humanity, on our partners, who were very afraid of escalation before that , well, it seems to me that the excuse is quite eloquent that no escalation more than what we already have now has not happened, well... where can we escalate further,

let’s listen to what president zelensky actually said, i mentioned that this is the opinion of the supreme commander armed forces of ukraine, the president of ukraine, what does zelensky say? we see how russia is actually moving under putin. 24 years ago was the kursk disaster, the symbolic beginning of his reign. and now it is clear what is the final for him. and also kurdsk, the disaster of its war, it always happens to those who despise people and any rules. russia brought war to others, now it's coming home. ukraine always wanted only peace, and we will certainly ensure peace. mrs. yevgenia, most of the columnists who wrote about the kurdish breakthrough and about the offensive on kurshchyna in... the international media

say that in the current situation ukraine is improving its negotiating positions in order to conduct negotiations, either through mediators, or at the peace summit to talk about some version of a peace agreement or a ceasefire agreement , and that this is one of the steps, this special operation, this is one of the steps to strengthen our positions. to what extent these positions are strengthening in the current situation, and what our western partners are saying, that is, they are also afraid that putin will respond, and at the same time respond quite harshly to the actions of the ukrainian army in the kursk region, including in the peaceful cities of ukraine. well, first of all, it is very good that all these international commentators are also ukrainian. didn't know anything about this operation,

because actually, this effect of surprise, it had a very positive effect on the speed of the advance of our troops, if we talk about what it gives, then tactically, well, first of all, it gives a large exchange fund, and we we hope that we will be able to return our prisoners, who are in much worse conditions in russian prisons, or nat... occupied territories, than all these conscripts will be there and all those who surrendered and now today the president said during the address that there are hundreds and hundreds of people there, and it is also tactical, well, in fact, attention and reserves are being drawn to another, to another part of the front, and russia needs to... spend more

people, reserves in order to, well, at least get closer, as they say, to the stabilization of the situation there, if we talk about the strategic , then we saw. action, for example, by united states senators who simply do not no hid their delight in this operation, we hope that this will give a boost in american policy and in general in the decisions that we can use weapons at long range, because now we are actually doing this, moving the artillery, less cabs, although of course. that all these front-line territories, the northern territories of sumy oblast, they will suffer, it is good that the evacuation is organized, and of course that for negotiations this is a strong argument and a strong argument and a strong trump card,

and here it will also depend on the further actions of our military, which we definitely support in all the operations that are still planned, mr. rostislav, so... kirby, john kirby, this is the strategic communications coordinator of the white house national security council, says that putin can stop the war against ukraine if he is so worried about the situation in the kursk region, i will quote mr. kirby, this is putin's war against ukraine, and if he doesn't like something, if he is not satisfied with something, there is a very simple solution, let him get the hell with ukraine and stop the war - said kirby. judging by the reactions in russia to this course operation, judging by the expression on his face, putin received information about what was happening in kurshchyna and gave instructions to his security forces, can we say that

putin's regime suffered a very serious blow, a reputational blow, well, the first inside the russian state , because our western. partners say that he either ends the war, or goes to hell and will continue to receive it in various regions bordering ukraine, as i understand it, voronytsk, bryansk, bilhorodsk, and in such the way war will go back to where it came from? well, it is known that the best negotiator from the side of ukraine with russia is the armed forces of ukraine, and we see a very effective method. such negotiations, and here it is important that different means are used so that the russians do not understand what awaits them next, and this is probably the only way to win for ukraine, which has fewer resources, has fewer troops, has

a smaller economy and so on, but definitely thinks better and definitely works better, and this advantage must be used, and it is clear that... that such a strategic initiative can be ukraine has really been captured and it is very important that our western partners are starting to look at the situation in a completely different way, but now putin, i think, and his henchmen are in a certain phase of rejection, they are still waiting for it to cool down somehow, what if we throw in there two more battalions, and then three more battalions, then somehow it can be dealt with, and to the extent of how this will be done by the armed forces of ukraine, to the extent that the mood and plans of the russian leadership may change, so far they have really suffered a blow, a predator wounded, it is not

this is his first such injury, but they will not stop right now, and right now it seems to me that neither putin nor his cronies... are ready for any negotiations, because for them this is also to some extent a war for survival, but not for the survival of the nation, as for us, and the overgrowth of the empire, the overgrowth of their way of looking at the world and living in this world, and therefore the only real way to drive them to negotiations on the terms of ukraine, the result of which will be ukrainian victory and the liberation of all of ukraine, is to continue to give him such blows, thank you , mr. rostislav, sir yaroslav, please tell me. but the story that is now unfolding before us, does it testify to the weakness of the russian military and political elite, to the fact that this power, which putin tried to demonstrate by playing with his weapons on the whole world and

showing how he can and what he maybe that actually this whole system they have from the center to the regions. and in general all these vertical all structures, that, that they are not effective, that this state is militarized, but it is not... controlled, that putin cannot control russia as he shows outside, as shown on tv? well, it seems to me that it is obvious that it is difficult to talk about the strongest army in the world and to claim some kind of geopolitical influence and the status of a superpower, if under your nose... under your nose, your soldiers are being captured or liberated, i will say for sure 72

settlements and with all this military economy, you can't do anything about all the threats that the same western partners once paid attention to, well, they ended in nothing, which shows that for the first time after during the second world war, russia seized territories, and, let's be honest, quite defiantly and easily, and the way russian propaganda is silent, or tries, well , with all its might, if possible, to downplay what is happening, well, it seems to me the best a compliment to our armed forces of ukraine, that's why... that's why we probably shouldn't be too interested in some image of putin, well, i

think we all came to the conclusion a long time ago ten years ago, and this is how the western powers came out with enough i wouldn't even say, not even not negative publications, and such mocking publications against russia, specifically... the dictator, well, i think that he will not be able to erase this slap from his face for a long, long time and it will remain a big red spot on him. mrs. tapanova, your colleague, roman kostenko, colonel of the security service of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence , jokingly addressed the speaker of the parliament, ruslan. chuka from the border of the russian federation in the sumy region, calling it a foreign business trip. let's hear what

said colonel kostenko. ruslan oleksiiovych, i am now in front of the russian federation, i'm sorry that i don't have permission, but i will still go there with our defense forces, and then i'll write a letter about the business trip. mrs. yevgenia, clearly the colonel of the sbu, roman kostenko hinted that he was not signed for a foreign business trip when he wanted to go to the munich security conference, by the way, and now he entered the territory of the russian federation without any order from stefanchuk. tell me, when is your big one the monomajority and not... with ruslan stefanchuk, will cancel these humiliating foreign trips

for people's deputies of ukraine, because it looks a little like this, it is very strange when representatives of the parliamentary committee on national security and defense, in particular the secretary of the committee, cannot go abroad and to talk with foreign colleagues at the munich security conference at the profile for... well, i am not ready to comment on the actions of who signed or did not sign the business trip of colleague kostenko, because well, i also go through absolutely all the procedures, and believe me, some of our monomajority missions end in non-signing by davyd georgyovich arakhani, so we sometimes have a more difficult situation, especially when it comes to plenary days, and it is clear that the faction wants the deputy... to be in the hall and vote on important laws, but i agree that

people's deputies can only go abroad, and only in official necessity, and it is obvious that this is supported by society, because some vacations or just some private visits, of course, they are inappropriate, but i really appreciate my colleagues, which really are professionally engaged. parliamentary diplomacy, i myself travel a lot by steam to various international events and i know that it is actually becoming more and more difficult to keep the focus of attention. thank you, ms. yevgenia, mr. rostislav, please tell me what colonel kostenko said, you and your colleagues in the faction are already facing this, that is, the only thing that is surprising in this situation is that this joking, with with which roman spoke in the direction

of stefanchuk, it is in principle also irony, but in principle it is very good... this irony and benevolence is good, maybe still on the third in the year of the war, we need to ask the question that people's deputies of ukraine are people who defend the position of ukraine, that there is conditional opposition to the authorities, but we all play in the same team, in the team of the ukrainian state? well, absolutely, that would be the right approach. because now ukraine is starting to pick up the initiative, now is simply a golden time to use the means of parliamentary diplomacy, the means of expert diplomacy, with the inclusion of journalists, the inclusion of various opinion leaders, to conduct a diplomatic offensive in support of our two armed forces, because

now everyone who understands putin will join in, now we will start hearing a lot of all kinds of nonsense. which the russians will throw in through their channels, through useful and useless idiots in different countries of the world, we will hear a lot about various ukrainian corruption there, various ukrainian abuses and all kinds of things like that, and it is not only the theses of representatives of the authorities that everything is fine with us, on the contrary, it is precisely joint work, i will emphasize that abroad we really all defend the interests of ukraine, joint work and... the majority and opposition factions, experts, it would serve a common goal, and now, if ukraine is able to turn the tide of the war, then this moment can be used to restore the true unity that was there in march 22 -th year, when no one particularly looked around in terms of political

positions, because everyone understood what was at stake, and this... well, it's a pity that this will most likely not happen, and it would be a very, very appropriate moment. thank you, mr. yaroslav, please tell me how, how often your faction encounters by the fact that you are not signed by foreign business trips, because, well, kostenko is one of the examples of what we now call, but many cases are obviously left out of the picture, and you during the war are not too... escalating this situation and and this is a question and obviously you also have problems with trips abroad, how does it generally correspond to the rights and duties of a people's deputy of ukraine, it seems to me that after such a video of roman, if he even

brings stepanchuk not a business trip, but a loan agreement for an apartment, then ruslan. will sign it and look, this question, frankly and seriously, is definitely not for yevgenia kravchuk, they are true, i think that their situation is even worse than that of the servant of the people, and even where is ruslan oleksiyovych, this is a question for the office of the president, there are people with frankly childish complexes who for some reason sometimes believe that they can educate people's deputies in this way. well, the last case we had was when we demonstratively and beautifully overturned the bad law on bep, and then a large number of people there directly canceled it the business trip was not signed, the good news is that this large number of people also gathered afterwards, brought up once again the office of the president and the cabinet of ministers and, just in case, there were some

mediators in the verkhovna rada, and after that everything started to be signed, although... my personal opinion, if someone thinks that traveling on a business trip is, to put it mildly, something positive for people's deputies, then they are very wrong. first of all, it is done with my own money, which, to be honest, is not enough, well, in my case it is a big enough loss for the family budget there, secondly, it is just a difficult enough logistics, i really sometimes look at colleagues who... have to go there as a couple for the nato, osce session, well, they are on the road all night , then they come to the ukrainian parliament in order to have time to vote, well , believe me, this is definitely not... the most favorite task, i think that they also have families and also have a lot of other things to do, so my personal opinion is that in first of all, it is necessary

for the authorities, yes or no, and the coalition, and the government, and so on another thing, why do the people's deputies themselves allow the government to rub its feet against itself, because in one vote, it is decided, well, that the government will then go instead of drivers to transport people's deputies abroad, well, here, for sure, the question of the parliamentary majority, and not only from the servant of the people, but also from other factions, let's say, less oppositional ones, which allow themselves to do so, and the last, no less important, i have the feeling that this situation will become a huge problem in the matter of further european integration and interaction with international partners, we have some geniuses from the president's office there... thought of canceling the business trip, well, which were confirmed from that side, well, these are the steps that are very easy to explain why, but the norm is not normative

vocabulary, so i think that this the situation will develop in a positive scenario for people's deputies and a negative scenario for those, as he said, who still have children's complexes. thank you, mr. yaroslav, i will remind our viewers that we are working live on the channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who... now watch us live on youtube, please take part in our survey, today we ask you about whether the kursk operation of the armed forces of ukraine will be a disaster for russia, yes, no, please vote, either yes or no, write your comment under this video, if you have your own personal opinion, if you watch us on tv, grab your smartphone or phone and vote on the phone numbers 0800 211 381, if you think that the course... the operation of the ukrainian army will be a disaster for putin , no. 0800 211 382 vote. at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote.

today, on our broadcast, i will remind you once again, yevgenia kravchuk, yaroslav zheleznyak and rostislav pavlenko, people's deputies of ukraine. well, i understand that you will soon start sitting in the session hall, ladies and gentlemen, and questions. of the government, the issue of appointments, the issue of dismissals, will appear on the agenda, because president zelenskyi also spoke about this literally a week ago, they have been talking about it in the kulars for several months, there are no ministers in some ministries, well that is, heads of ministries, as in the same ministry of culture and information policy, which is important for the ukrainian state and for ukrainian, ukrainian propaganda during the war, mrs. yevgenia, are the issues of personnel reshuffles and personnel decisions being discussed now, or should we expect a solution to

personnel issues, literally since the 19th, is that how you start working, or when? we will not name the dates yet, but yes, the verkhovna rada will return to plenary mode of work in the near future. i don't think there will be any very loud appointments, or even more resignations in this plenary week, because , fortunately and unfortunately, the title share will obviously go to amendments that can be made by the deputies who submitted to the law on the russian church, and well, for sure it must be voted on this on this. and maybe there will be point appointments, but i am not ready to name the ministries or to name the name, but there are issues on which we

will concentrate, including there will be bills that i think will be registered in the near future, which will concern there are payments and all legal issues that concern the fighters who are now in the kursk region. mr. rostyslav, in your opinion, are there changes in personnel reshuffles. something in the power system of the state, appointment, dismissal, in the conditions when five or six managers around zelenskyi run the state, well, since the threads, unfortunately, still lead to the president's office, no matter who is appointed there, no matter who is dismissed , no matter what decisions are made, unfortunately, it really has little effect, by the way, one of the reasons why we still have several ministries. vacant, that too invests in such an approach that, well, what is the difference, if the managers decide all this anyway, that is why yaroslav very successfully

spoke about the fact that... if there was finally a little more parliamentarism in the parliament, then this is also a question for the largest faction, and to others, in order to still show their role and importance, in our constitution, well, the prime minister proposes ministers, but the logic is that these candidates should be discussed with those who actually vote for them, when or if it happens , we will see a completely different quality of government work, yet again... it is not like that, because we all heard president zelensky at the press conference last year, who said that everything is in the hands of five or six managers, but five or six managers, despite their desire , cannot handle everything they can, so if we want a better and better policy, well, the best answer is a unity government, of course, which would allow political issues to be postponed, but the president's office definitely does not have the will

to do so, so we are watching the process and... all responsibility lies on the president and his five or six managers, mr. yaroslav, who the current situations under the circumstances deserves to be retired and appointed? oh, if we talk about resignation, i think that you will not have enough airtime, only herman golushchenko, who does not go a day without a corruption scandal, which he deserves, so let's go past the one who will be fired. for now, as my colleague evgenia correctly said, no one this week, the story of the change of the prime minister, well , at least it was postponed until the fall, i think that there will be point appointments this week, to the ministers, we have five of them now, appoint not all of them, i think that the ministry of culture, the ministry of sports, the ministry of veterans, maybe minagra, er... will appoint

firm positions and the ministry of culture here, mr. karandeev, this is the yevgeny committee, he has been there for a year, even longer sitting on the status of vo, by the way , i'll just remind you that this parliament of ours first voted to ban vo from being ministers, and then, under the influence of the president, canceled this norm, but now we have ministers hanging on their posts for more than a year. in the status of the voo, it is about the subjectivity of the ukrainian parliament, specifically this convocation, but i think that that's all for now, there won't be anything more to the personnel appointments, they remain open the issue of a minister or two for infrastructure and reconstruction and regions, i think that there will still be two, there is a vice-prime minister for reconstruction, we have, let me remind you, that they wanted to strengthen regional policy so much that

we have had it for three months already. there is no one involved in regional politics, but i think it's already autumn. thank you, mr. yaroslav, but it is absolutely certain that there will be a solution, as president zelensky says, that will strengthen spiritual independence from moscow, as he said, and this statement was made precisely at the time when the verkhovna rada of ukraine is going to consider in the second reading the draft law on the prohibition of religious activities. organizations connected with the russian federation, let's listen to what zelensky says. i just held a preparatory meeting about a decision that will strengthen our ukrainian spiritual independence. we must deprive moscow of its last opportunities, limit the freedom of ukrainians, and the solutions for this must be 100% effective and really work. we

we will provide them. ms. yevgenia, what decision is it about, about the second reading of the draft law, which one is in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, if so, then what does the president do here in the current situation, if the draft law is being considered by the verkhovna rada of ukraine. well, because the verkhovna rada, unfortunately, showed indecision for many months, because in fact with such great efforts it was possible to add this bill to the... agenda and it is indeed now on the agenda for the first plenary day, again there are still the issues of these spam edits, so maybe not the first time we will vote on the same day, but it is obvious that this is a long road, it is approaching its logical conclusion, and this long road began precisely with the decision of the president, the decision of the national security council back in december, then the decree.