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volodymyr zelenskyy discussed the creation of military command posts in the kursk region, where the armed forces of... continue to go on the offensive, what exactly ukraine will do with the captured territories of the kursk region, we are talking about this today, as well as about the front in donbas, where the russian army is slowly, but confidently advances. this is svoboda live, my name is vlasta lazur. for the first time, ukrainian journalists got to the kursk region of russia. the footage will be published by tsn. correspondent natalya nagorna showed how the ukrainian military removed the russian flag from the administration building in the city suja. in the afternoon, oleksandr syrsky announced the defeat of the russian. group in suzhi,
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although the russian side continues to claim that the city is not under the full control of the armed forces. well, the first shots of suji, have a look. and now we are in suzhi precisely at that historical moment when glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes of the glory. when the russian tricolor falls to the ground. now you can see how different the approach of the russian and ukrainian troops is. so you came in and almost everything, but you are here, you live here, you live here, hello, they just left, simply, simply, they simply left, they didn't even announce the evacuation, they just left, got together and left, how many people were left without means of livelihood?
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they brought water, what else are you enumerating, food, canned goods, cookies, all kinds of dried fruits, thank you, maybe, thank you, men, even though you don't abandon us, let's go, so to speak, for a few minutes. we hope to include the author of these shots on the air, to talk with her about what is happening in kurshchyna. well, the fighting in the kursk region has been going on for more than a week. ukrainian brigades occupied the town of osudha, advanced to the west, went halfway to the town of lhov in the north, and also organized a large raid to the east in the direction of another regional center of sloboda bila. the commander-in-chief of the ukrainian armed forces oleksandr syrskyi said the day before that 74 settlements in the kursk region are under the control of ukraine, but earlier the ukrainian command said that they were under the control of the ukrainian armed forces.
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1000 km of russian territory. moscow's estimates are more modest. two days ago, putin was informed about the capture of 28 settlements. well, a the american institute for the study of war reports that as of august 13, the armed forces controlled approximately 41 settlements in kurshchyna. well, this is one of the border points of sumy oblast. now we will show you what it looked like today. you can see there, now we are showing the russian military uniform, the remains of fortifications, dragon's teeth. ukrainian troops. who are now fighting on the kurdish front, told the roughters agency that before the kurdish operation, this particular checkpoint was controlled by the russian military, kept under their control, but now it is again controlled by ukrainians, foreign news agencies, among other things , they filmed the movement of pickup trucks there today, probably with russian prisoners of war, look, i think he was just driving around.
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yurii butusa, editor-in-chief of the online publication censornet, joins our broadcast. i congratulate you, i congratulate you, you also wrote to yourself on social networks that you are filming reports on the kurshchyna, i understand that you were in suzhi, tell me what is happening there, look, i won’t say at which specific points i was, but i was crazy, i'll say generally yes, yes, it is happening, now there are maneuvering operations on a wide front, in a large front, the enemy is trying to... to maneuver,
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russian troops are trying to hold, advance, using the terrain, knowledge of the terrain to key nodes. i.e. settlements that are communication nodes, in order to take them under control and stop the advance of our troops, maneuver and advance, i.e. the enemy is trying to act actively, is trying to limit, not only fetter the maneuver of our troops and reduce, narrow the bridgehead, now on perimeter and go forward in order to reduce its volume. therefore, there are now maneuvering battles, very difficult, complex, and there is a struggle for the initiative and for separate such communication nodes throughout this large territory, and you said that there are heavy battles, did i understand correctly that russia has already pulled up some part of the reserves , which can
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oppose the ukrainian troops there? of course, there is a short enough line of communication, the enemy has ready operational reserves. and they transferred part of the reserves from the kharkiv direction and part, oh, but also they pulled up reserves from deep, sufficiently significant forces, so the enemy managed to take control quickly enough, use convenient communications, take control of a significant number of objects, well , the same troops were deployed there, and now there are battles with... some key points and the enemy establishes a perimeter, tries to establish a permanent front and use the terrain, the terrain here is quite difficult, such as in kharkiv region, that is, a very rugged terrain, a large number of forests
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that allow maneuvering of significant forces, especially the infantry forces, and the enemy tries to use this to conduct in all directions. counteroffensive actions and improve their position. yuriy, from what you have seen, from what you understand, ukraine is going to establish itself there for a long time in the occupied territories? i can draw conclusions from the words of the supreme commander-in-chief and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, which they made, that they are talking about the fact that ukrainian positions and a defense system are being established there. as the president stated today, a system is even being organized humanitarian aid for the local population, that is, of course, these are signs that we are gaining ground and that the ukrainian leadership considers this a long-term operation,
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the western press has devoted a lot of publications to this today, the rhetoric is such, they express doubts about whether ukraine has enough reserve forces for a long time hold? these territories, what conclusion can you make about this? it is possible to hold the territories if the reserves are suitable there, if the enemy does not transfer a significant amount of his forces there additionally. now there are maneuverable combat operations, well, of course, such maneuverable active combat operations, when attacks, counterattacks, and defense are constantly taking place. encapsulation, movement, maneuver, they require significant forces, including physical forces from people, and this requires constant support by reserves, here the question will be how much the further course of hostilities will be affected by the further situation
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at the front, because russian troops continue to attack donbas, especially active in the direction of mirnograd, pokrovsk, toretsk, new york. novamykhaivka, a ugledar, of course, that reserves are also needed in these directions, ammunition is also needed, this is ukrainian land, there are a large number of ukrainian soldiers there, and therefore we have to look at the situation on the front as a whole, the enemy is advancing in eight directions at the moment on the front, we are advancing in one, well and... of course, we have to weigh the balance of power and the distribution of resources in this situation. yuriy, the last question, where you were, did you meet russian civilians, did you talk to them? yes, i met russian civilians, well, people do not particularly want to communicate, and i them
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i understand, it was not my task to necessarily find out how they are doing there, because in principle, that is where the ukrainian troops are. there is order and there is no disorder and there are no problems, the main problems of the civilian population arise in the districts, so to speak. they are on the front lines, at those points, because the main chaos and problems for the locals are created by the russian troops, the enemy has thrown a large number of units there, from many parts, from many branches of forces and troops, they are alarmed there threw in anyone possible, there were russian conscripts and kadyrivtsi, and the wagner pvk, and... the marines and the police, and even
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units of the federal penitentiary service, that is, prison guards, that is, a huge number of russian forces, they are all not yet coordinated, and it is not by chance, not by chance, yesterday there was such a post by a russian blogger, one of the biggest z-bloggers in the war, yuriy podalyak, who said that... be afraid of civilian vehicles, be afraid that they are used by ukrainian soldiers, that is, such an appeal to russian soldiers , but that's a lot a dangerous signal, and they, i am sure that in that chaos and panic they fire on civilians, well, in our territories there is complete order, silence and there are no problems, what i see. yuriy, thank you very much, yuriy bututsol, editor-in-chief of the online publication censornet, he was at the kurshchyna and shared with us what he saw. thank you very much, well, as i promised, the author of footage from suja,
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natalya nagorna, correspondent of tsn, joins our broadcast, she showed today how the ukrainian military destroys one of the administration buildings russian flag. natalya, i congratulate you, good evening. natalya, what are the ukrainian military doing in suzhi now, what are they busy with? we've seen your footage, we've seen them handing out humanitarian aid, we've seen them tear down the russian flag, what else, really. let's understand that suja is already far enough from where the fighting is going on, that is, at the moment we could only see air bombs and maybe missiles coming to suja, because missiles are flying everywhere, it's true, but there are no fpv drones, no artillery, that is, it means that the fighting is on far away, but now you can see, indeed, that the flag was taken down today, you can go right at the entrance to the court. you see the russian one, it is immediately clear that it is a russian burnt convoy, there is a tank that has not reached the destination, all this equipment
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is standing in the direction of ukraine, and actually it was going to fight against us, i will be honest, for that, it is such a pleasant feeling that did not arrive, because we understand that a lot of things are flying over ukrainian territory, and in fact, when the military talks about what we need this operation for, and it is needed for to knock down the sanitary zone in order to at least relieve the chernihiv and sumy regions, which are suffering a lot, especially since the beginning of august they are talking about more than 2,500 shellings, and therefore it was necessary to make the territory so that the russians would not terrorize the local area so much population, as you can see, they really delivered humanitarian aid, and to the people who remained. in the judge, we saw civilians and they were
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in the basement, these are people who needed food, people who needed water, yes, this, this is us now showing, showing unloading humanitarian aid, and these people in civilian clothes are russian citizens, local residents, right, yes, these are people who are forced to hide in the basement precisely because of russian aerial bombs, and what do they say, what, what are these people, if you talked to them, natalya , tell and tell... you, er, what emotions do they share with you? and they complained to me very much about their authorities, they say that the leadership of the region left, they were not warned, no one evacuated them, but from such an interesting thing that they said, they say that you know, putin simply does not know, putin does not know what is happening in the kursk region, he is being lied to, and that is why, moreover, this is a thesis that came to us, it is not that we asked about it, it is people... came to us and said that here is the leadership of the region threw, and putin does not know, and some people
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have simply lost count of how many days they have been in the basement, because they asked us so, even today is wednesday, they say yes, today is wednesday, whether ukraine offers them, whether ukraine offers them evacuation, for example, to the territory controlled by kyiv, and i can say that we asked about evacuation, about the desire... to evacuate some people, in particular a family with a small child, a girl, one year and three months old, her name is anastasia, they are not in the basement, they are in their house. and we asked them if they wanted to take the child out, it was only a proposal, it is clear that no one does anything by force in relation to the local population, but they said that they asked us if they could go to kursk, uh, well, since we are a red zone there, obviously, and
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it is impossible to accompany them in the course, they were offered by the military, they say... that if you want, you can always leave through the territory of ukraine, because, unfortunately, we can't protect you from your military, we can't guarantee that this car will just be let through, natalie, i have one last question, we , you showed today how the ukrainian military removes the russian flag from one of the administrative buildings of suzhi. this , of course, is a very symbolic story, the changing of flags there, or the changing of plates, road signs, but nevertheless we see the last days. many videos of alleged ukrainian military shooting russian ones and erect ukrainian flags, this happens en masse, i ask this because now, you know, such a question is raging in society, what to do with these territories, in the future, what will ukraine do with them, does ukraine erect its flags there or not? look, i haven't seen our military behave like this, and they are maintaining
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order in this territory, the defense forces. they are worried about the people who are there, that is, i saw how the tricolor was removed, but i did not see that the blue-yellow flag was hung over the curtain, which is such a feature of the suji, there for some reason a lot of soviet flags, red with serfs and molt, well, maybe not exactly a lot, but i saw two or three for sure, and that’s right, and when you see, for example, a monument to lenin, yes, pre-communization has long passed in our country, but there... our military did not touch it, that is , you made such a trip to the past, including, natalya, you know, the strangest thing about this trip for me was how whole suja was, because i see when the russians come and start tell about how they dismiss and we see what remains a burnt field, but when i got there, i
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saw that there was damage, well, really mostly from the air bombs, which happened almost all morning while we were there. fell somewhere in that area, well, at least we heard them all the time. clear. thank you very much. natalya nagorna, correspondent of tsn, she talked about what is happening in kurshchyna and, in particular, in suzhi, where she had time to visit. thank you very much. so, volodymyr zelensky suggested the creation of military commanders in kursk region. ukraine is taking a lot of risks, the new york times wrote the day before. with the help of this offensive, the ukrainian authorities hope to strengthen their negotiating positions, as well as to force... russia to withdraw its troops from donbas. the question is: will ukraine be able to hold russian territories for a long time in order to achieve these goals. this question remains open, states the new york times. we will also talk about this in detail in a minute, but returning to the publication in the western press, for example, new york times journalist andrew kramer also visited the russian-ukrainian border. it is detailed
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describes the appearance of this border, which was also breached by ukrainian forces when they advanced on kurshchyna. listen to what he says. all that remains of the russian border post is a picture of destruction, sheet metal fluttering in the wind, customs declarations scattered, stray dogs roaming under the russia sign blocking the road. debris from a lost battle and traces of soldiers captured from nenatsk were scattered on the border, shell casings jingled underfoot, discarded bulletproof vests lay on the asphalt. preparation for the offensive of the armed forces in kursk region. took place in the strictest secrecy, the new york times writes, according to the deputy commander of one of the ukrainian brigades, lieutenant colonel artem, the publication does not name his last name. a limited circle of the military knew about the offensive plans, senior officers were told about the operation three days before it began, and the privates learned about the plans a day before the attack. according to journalists, the strategy of the armed forces was to quickly break through the border and rapidly
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advance along the roads. landscapes were supposed to contribute in the kursk region, the fields bordered by lakes and... to limit the movement of russian troops. however, according to the publication, ukrainian civilians living along the border with kursk oblast also had to pay for this secrecy. without warning them in advance, the authorities of ukraine urgently began evacuating people when russia, in response to the invasion, began shelling the border settlements of sumy oblast, and as of august 12 , almost 20,000 people had already been evacuated from the border areas of sumy oblast. people, what should ukraine do with these seized territories? i will remind you, according to ukrainian data the armed forces of ukraine keeps 74 points of power under its control. joining our broadcast is solomiya bobrovska, mp, voice and representative of the committee on security, defense and intelligence. straw good evening. good evening, greetings. well, my
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first question is, how do you understand the words of volodymyr zelenskyi about the creation of military command tours. what does this mean? explain to our audience? i understand this term very literally, and in view of the fact that a full-fledged humanitarian operation, humanitarian aid is being prepared for... from these settlements, this means that someone actually has to coordinate it, it will be coordinated by our military commanders, who will provide assistance to the population in one form or another, unlike the occupiers, who actually terrorized our civilian population, killed , assaulted and so on, so i believe that our approach is very humane within the framework of such a defense operation, and probably the russians should pray for such behavior of the ukrainians and thank the president, accordingly, that today... points will be kept under the control of military commanders, absolutely adequate, logical step of the state of ukraine in relation to these territories. solomia, now all
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the military experts say that ukraine acted symmetrically, so to speak, breached the border where it was weakest, and this is a very good and talented operation, these are the general comments of the military. do you accept that political decisions will also be asymmetric, well, for example, the ukrainian parliament will meet and make proclamations. about joining these territories to ukraine? this is such a provocative question, i think we are first debating the possibility of meeting the verkhovna rada and voting on a bill that provides for cutting off any roots and ties with the russian orthodox church. this will be a symmetrical, very large response, in particular to the aggressor, because this is another front that we are currently failing, unfortunately, and humanitarian regression, i think that you , including as journalists, feel it all over ukraine. in particular especially and very much. moreover, i want to remind our viewers why i am talking about such a regression, because it starts with not only humanitarian policy, but also youth policy,
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the youngest arsonist. the car was 12 years old. i understand that when the parliament meets and does or does not bring this bill to a vote, we will talk about it. today, volodymyr zelenskyi said that he is considering the creation of military command tours. some ukrainian contributors there openly talk about the fact that ukraine is returning its own, and do you accept that this decision can seriously discuss the joining of these territories to ukraine? you you know, i would really like to, but i would really stick to my position and believe that this will be the right decision, and i think the president as well as the cabinet and the verkhovna rada, including our position is unchanged, we want to fight back and de-occupy our of land to the territory recognized by the entire world in 1991, this is our task both maximum and minimum, then it would be
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good to have a buffer zone that would provide for it would not provide for the accumulation and accumulation of any troops of the aggressor with the possibility of repeating any any invasion on the territory of ukraine. ago i return once again, we need to stick to the thesis and narrative and plan, the boundaries of the 1991 year. let's start with that and look at... our eastern and southern direction, which is also under threat today, under a huge, intense attack by the russian federation. how, do you think, is the russian leadership politically interested in exchanging these territories? i think that the russian leadership today can be interested in only one thing, in the complete clearing of the kurdish territory of this region, moreover, from the news that we receive, we read, we see that in fact they start charging not only for a counteroffensive in the kursk region, but also in the belgorod region, so i think that
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there are surprises ahead of us, in particular from that side, i believe that we need to be very careful and careful with this, and i do not have such euphoria , yes, we want to joke, it's all clear, regarding this operation, it seems to me that the most important thing is not only to fulfill the task and the plan, which, the military plan, which was set by the supreme commander-in-chief. for the commander-in-chief, but in particular to save the lives of our guys in the brigades that are carrying out such a defensive operation today, i emphasize the word defensive operation, what kind of military plan are you talking about, and this is a question for the supreme commander-in-chief, what it consists of, i think that it is definitely not subject to discussion in media, and here is another question, the first ukrainian journalists have already visited these settlements in russia in the kursk region, we... see that civilians remain there, perhaps some of them did not have time to go, some are still planning to go, but we can assume that some number of people will remain in these territories, or even in those that the ukrainian troops
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may take. under your control, well, according to the idea, there should be some policy of the ukrainian state regarding this population, how will it all be organized? look, it's a difficult question, it seems to me that today mrs. iryna vereshchuk, the vice prime minister for unitary affairs, gave an elaborate answer regarding the list of humanitarian operations, as well as all the services that will be provided to the population, whether they will food, whether it will be some kind of logistics, whether it will be some kind of support, access, for example , of international organizations to that territory. in order not to tell later that ukraine is invading and so on and so forth, all these things will be carried out, it seems to me that this is more than enough, it is more than humane treatment of civilians who are there during defense operation, the intelligence of the russian federation would be more active, the population would be evacuated earlier. by the way, i think it is very correct that from our population points of the 20-kilometer border zone, which was actively shelled, moreover, i want to remind you that
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it is 25 km from sumy to the nearest point of the border. and before the start of this operation, both the suburbs of the city of sumy, and the border areas were subjected to large attacks, in particular by the kaba, therefore the decision of the ukrainian state to evacuate the population from those territories, where, where, were subjected to large , large combat units of the russian federation. solomia, thank you very much, solomia bobrovska, people's deputy, voice faction and representative of the committee on security, defense and intelligence. we talked about what ukraine has to do in the future, or will do in the future with these russian territories, which the armed forces of ukraine keep under their control. thank you very much, solemia. well, we also asked the ukrainians, in their opinion, in their opinion, what ukraine, the ukrainian government, the ukrainian state should do with these territories that ukraine keeps under its control, russian territories, and you can listen to what these answered people. me
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i wanted... that we differed from the russians at this moment, did not carry out genocide, still behaved humanely, and in this way we could show that we are different in this way, we are fundamentally not like that, in general, this is good news, but i i would like them to return to our region, because this is the most important thing for us right now, what to do, keep them and continue to be captured, then it will be ukrainian land, i believe. at what cost will all this be, if the opinion is in your mind, are the territories needed, well, of course not, but they should feel what we felt, we all do not like the russians, what they are doing to us, and where in some way we think it is fair, but really not, to use them in exchange on our territory, and in what
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way, how to approach it? well, it should be decided by the higher command, well done, what do they do, because it is necessary for the whole world to know about it, about what is happening in our country, that we can fight back, they control, so that is good, it is necessary , so that only more control and liberation of all our occupied territories, i believe that it must be exchanged for zaporizhia as, or for our defenders, for example, azov, it is necessary. to get as much as we can do it, we need to advance further, further to moscow, well, well, of course, this is my only wish, but it is necessary, of course, not to lie down there for the boys, but to get a foothold, if possible, so that later exchange these territories for the territory of ukraine. we have a great opportunity to replenish the exchange fund, so
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to speak, especially since it is not far away. as an offensive on kursk, on the kursk region, in the kurdish territory will change the balance of forces on the front and in the donbas, first of all, what dilemma is facing vladimir putin himself? satellite images analyzed by osind analysts indicate that russian troops have already started digging trenches on the territory in the area of ​​lhova, this city is located almost 50 km from the border and in the area of ​​the city of kursk, which is located even further. in russia, they began to look for trench builders in the kursk region. the russian service of the bbc writes about it. journalists
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