also sat on its left bank. it is interesting that further south along a significant section of the border , ukrainian derge were spotted in the villages of demidovka, kolotilovka, and poroz, and it is likely that there were more of them. however , the offensive of the armed forces east of vovchansk could be a shock for the russians. our forces have already established themselves in the villages of pankov and leninskyi. one of the goals of the operation in kurshchyna can be not only the curtailment of the russian offensive on vovchansk, but also the encirclement and destruction of the entire vovchan group. now the defense forces have launched a powerful offensive in vovchansk itself and are pushing out the occupiers from the city however, strong support from the belgorod region can not only significantly speed up this process, but also trigger panic in belgorod itself. a new army of many thousands of refugees will definitely collapse the military logistics in this direction. currently , we can record that the armed forces of the russian federation are pulling their reserves back to russia from all directions of the front, except for donetsk, where they still hope. maintain

the tempo of the attack. instead, the armed forces of ukraine daily form a new demilitarized zone on its northeastern border between the psel and diet. we win daily, death to enemies. well , we were joined by oleksiy hetman, reserve major of the national guard, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. i congratulate you, mr. hetman. i congratulate you. of course, the most interesting story is what is happening near kursk, but it is also interesting, actually... the most recent such events are the attack on russian military airfields, which was carried out this night by drones of the security service of ukraine, the defense forces, and it is interesting in to all this is that this is probably the largest attack of this kind during the war. in particular, letovyshche savasley savasleyka in the nizhny novgorod region, baltimore on the outskirts of the city of voronezh, borysoglipsk in the voronezh region and... tatovishche near

kursk were attacked. and it was such a big operation, i wonder what exactly this operation can give us and what its meaning can be? it can be seen that there is a video that there are fires, in one place, as if it were a fuel warehouse, in another , damaged planes, well, that is, there are many such stories, that is, what could it be? well, sevosleiky, the airfield, it's generally 1000 km away. er, that is, long-range drones again, there were even according to the message of the russian mass disinformation media that there were at least 10 hits, what exactly was the damage, the planes, the infrastructure, well, the planes that were damaged, so far there is no official information, the fact that the infrastructure of the airfield was damaged, then it is obvious well, what do such blows give, well, i think that all of us and you, the audience , understand very well that... those airfields that

are not far from the front line and even 1000 km away, if they will be vulnerable to our means of impression, then the russians will have to transfer theirs even further planes, which will increase the time of the flight, well, in general , this will break a lot for the ability of the russians to deliver eye strikes with kabami, which they began to actively use, and there are several dozen, sometimes up to a hundred , per day. strikes on various objects along the front line after the front line, so if it is possible to destroy these airfields, it cannot but stop, but essentially complicate such possibilities, well, here, well , you know, the question is almost rhetorical, which gives below, if we destroy airports or warehouses, or some bases, or headquarters, well, it gives, that bloodless uragu. well, you know, it

seems that the attack on morozivsk, yes, for a few days even there stopped the active bombardment with anti-aircraft guns, but life is still talking about the fact that you can't attack russian territory with anti-aircraft guns there, well, it's already starting a little to sound like such an anachronism and some unclear requirements, but come on, you can't be on the territory of russia, we are told by our partners from the territory of ukraine, and from the territory of russia on the territory. very good question, yes actually, well, let's move on to of this very operation in the kursk region, we obviously cannot say anywhere now where we advanced, how we advanced, simply because we do not know, only the general staff knows, as was stated, but we can at least talk about what the results are already and what else could be, and if we talk about the results, one of such... important results that we

could expect is the transfer of reserves and some other troops, well actually to try to stop this ukrainian breakthrough into kursk. and from that point of view what can you say that is, what do we see, what has already happened there and what else would we like to happen? well, of course, this is one of the goals of this operation, it is to force the russians to withdraw troops or from those that are not fully prepared, because they are withdrawing troops not only from the front line, but also from the reserve, which are inside, inside the russian federation, there is information about the fact that the troops that were planned to be sent to the pokrovsky direction, where the russians have the most, well, where the most fighting is going on, then these troops will apparently be used in the kurdish direction, is the same the information that the troops are being withdrawn from

the kharkiv direction, the troops are being withdrawn from the crimea, are being loaded onto the platforms, and they will be transferred, well, this is already, this is already an effect, speaking of the fact that... we all expected offensive actions on sumy, well in the sumy region, something similar, the russians planned to do, as they tried to attack kharkiv and come within a distance of no less than a shot, an aimed shot from the barrel artillery, they did not fail, and well, the attack on the sumy, let's just say so, is canceled, at least by the nearest sometimes with on the part of the russians, they now have to hold back our... counterattacks, our counteroffensive actions, so this is already an effect that is difficult to overestimate, you can count, well, at least five more effects that this operation has already given, even if it ends today, then it is not only a military

effect, although there are several components in the military effect, it is a political effect, it is a politically military, media effect, i am sure that on... partners, this argument, our attack on kurshchyna, give me the opportunity to remove these bans, anarchisms, sorry, my god, well, this is necessary, because we understand that these bans are not because scholz is there or biden is there, they are against us using them, they are based on the opinion of citizens, they... analyze and well, at least in germany it was a very difficult time , there was a lack of acceptance of the powerful help of our army, they were afraid that it would lead to an escalation, well , everything, which we remember perfectly, but even germany reacted when the russians

began to accuse them that german tanks were driving again the territory of russia, they answered yes, well, i may not be literal, but the point is that it is true. germany gave tanks to ukraine, but when she gave them over, they became ukrainian, and if ukraine uses them as it sees fit, that is its right, as long as it does not violate international laws. we do not violate any international law, we act clearly within the framework of the 51st article of the united nations organization, which stipulates what self-defense is and what the attacked country, which suffers from aggression, has the right to do, and it has the right to destroy military objects on the territory of the occupier, on the territory of the aggressor. er, as she sees fit. the only thing that cannot be done is to attack the civilian population, or commit war crimes, which the russians are constantly committing. therefore, this operation can affect this, which, well, looks strange to

an average, say, german or american, that we are conducting offensive operations on the territory of the russian federation, they cannot stop us, but shoot american or german missiles there. on military facilities is not impossible, because it can lead to escalation, well, people who say that will look no less funny, and i think that nothing and biden do not want to look funny, so i hope that something will be resolved with the tauros, and you know, the relationship of our partners, when we even heroically put up a defense, it is not quite that, but when we win, when we press the enemy, then the desire to join such ... and now it is increasing, and i think that this will affect the increase in military aid to us, well, everyone saw that russia was not the way they thought about her there, that putin is weak, and this can lead, i want to believe in the reference to sanctions and in the change

of attitude of many political elites in europe, in america, in the world towards the russian federation, because we constantly hear this, maybe it won't be necessary, maybe it will be an escalation, maybe there... somehow it will dissipate by itself, well, here it is a very serious argument, well, so what, if we finish thinking about what this operation resulted in. well, apart from that, she made it clear to the russians that putin is not as powerful as they thought, and for the russians he is very it is important that the secretary general or the president or the king is powerful, it gives them a sense of greatness, and they are ready to give up part of their rights and freedoms for this feeling of greatness, and when the king becomes weak, such a king is not needed there, not for people in russia, not for the political elites, and the last thing i wanted to say is... it had a very positive effect on our people who are not on the front lines,

although there are already conversations, whether it is worth it or not , well, this is separate, if it is your question, then we will talk, but one of the military it had a positive effect on the region, the people are very willing, well, it is obvious that it inspires, because all these conversations about the fact that the war should not go beyond the territory of ukraine, as if the territory of ukraine is some such place that... . can be destroyed, but there is some kind of sacred territory of russia that must be protected by the whole world, our military and political leadership, they constantly say that the war should go to the territory of the russian federation, well, that’s how they drew it, as they say that any any country that commits aggression against another country must understand that sooner or later the war will take place on their territory, and it must take place on tessa, these words have ceased to be theory, but have become practice, we are defending ourselves, that is who we are. the way we defend ourselves, the war, russia can stop this war, well, this is also a well-known phrase

that if russia stops shooting, the war will stop, if we stop shooting, ukraine will stop, so we, we cannot stop, and russia at any moment gives the command to withdraw the troops, we will immediately leave kurshchyna, our political leadership has already said that we are not going to well, it was a joke, some kind of referendum, kurdish people's, there is nothing to do, we respect the borders. of all countries in the world is internationally recognized, we also respect the borders, as strange as it sounds, the border of the russian federation, we respect these borders, but the fact that we entered their territory, we do it within the framework of the 51st article of the organization's charter , as part of self-defense, we will take military action as soon as the war stops, yes, well, you know, why do we need these swamps, well, we will immediately withdraw the troops, no one is going to do anything there to create, well, let's not fantasize, because i heard such... "let's create there, no one will create anything, there we are again, we demand respect for our borders, and we

also respect the borders of any country, international recognition , but i'm sorry, during aggression, during hostilities, we will conduct a military operation as we see fit to succeed in the war, these are different things, we once again we did not invade russia, we did not a military operation and we have nothing to attach to ourselves we're not going to, we need a fix here, in simple words." but you know, now we, i personally have the impression that exactly what ukraine, well, so clearly says, we are not going to take this territory there and that's all, so far, he is playing against us a little, because , well, the russians are withdrawing some forces there from the leningrad region, that is, they understand that nato will not attack them, there is no threat from nato, so there is no need for an army there they did not say how they are fighting with nato, but they are not there needed, they are calmly transferring it

to the ukrainian front now, and so far i have the impression that the russian leadership does not really believe that the ukrainian army is going to establish itself on this territory, they expect that a week or two will pass there, and somehow the ukrainians somehow will disperse, the ukrainians will go back, and therefore there is no such, you know, massive transfer of forces from such... hotter directions, but i wonder how to show them the seriousness of our intentions, and what the situation should look like so that the russians really realized that perhaps it is worth defending one's own territory, and not trying to continue the offensive in donbas, for example, what should happen, where should we reach, roughly speaking, or what should it look like, where should we reach, and can we reach the donbas, there are 500 , well, we are not there yet. let's take from the realities that exist now, there is, for example, this kursk region, where there are such painful

points for the russians in the kursk region, where would it be if we got there, it would really be painful for them, well, kursk directly, i i think, well, the point is, whether we're going to get established or not, we are already establishing ourselves, this is firstly, you understand, to conduct military operations on the territory of the aggressor, we once again, we have a full, full legal right to... according to international international laws, and we will be there as long as we can, as long as there will we be able to hold the defense or make counterattacks, withdraw, well, if it is a raid, if it was announced, well, it was not... it was not announced, it was not announced at all, if it is a raid, then the raid involves entering, leaving, maybe that was the goal, but if the goal was different, then we will stay there and continue to work to expand the territory under our control already on the territory of russia, in russia, well , until the end of the war, this is not an occupation, this is not an invasion, the war is over, we signed

a peace agreement, which should look like the capitulation of the russian federation in this war, we hope that this is how it will happen. then, as was the second world war and other wars, we will withdraw our troops, well, once again, we, we do not need your barren lands, well, but this is the same story as we said about the russians in the kyiv region, that is, it is there the need to supply our troops there, well , how can we not be cut off from these supply routes, have supplies, are we in danger of that now, no, i think so, well, what are you talking about? our general staff will not fail to plan offensive actions and, well, let's say capture, let's say such a word, a certain territory of the enemy, and without providing transportation for everything that is necessary, but does not provide logistics, no one does this, this is how raids are carried out, if it raid, then you can go once again

for a very long distance, do as drg goes in, does some work, military work and returns to the point, well... temporary or permanent deployment, if there is another goal, then no one will leave, and advance without inspection, well, no one is going to either, you know, when this military operation took place after the corresponding so-called combat orders were signed, which specified what a unit should do and at which point it should go, the combat order is not written , we advance because there is enough fuel in the tank, so no one does it. ago prepared and we had to reach certain boundaries, i think we reached them, then there will be a new order of battle, what do we do, do we join forces, do we move on, do we make raids, or well, it will be written down, and thank god that we we don't know this, we didn't say about one of the positive components of this offensive that stopped, at least in our country, big conversations about announcing

some of our military actions, about analyzing our military actions in the sense that... well, we know people , who began to tell us which ones we have bad generals, that they don't know how to do anything, and that everything is bad, well, you know, i'm starting to worry, maybe it's not necessary, there is there, i don't want to name her name, there is one very great people's deputy who knows how to fight better than everyone take our generals together, you don’t know what happened to her, where she disappeared to, she hasn’t been silent for a week, what happened, maybe she got sick, maybe you know... we all, all of us soldiers, are worried about where she went, why does she not give advice, we are already beginning to get confused about what to do, where to go to go, how to shoot, what to capture, how to form logistics, well, tell me, we are here without you, well, it is such a sad irony, well, thank you, in short, i will summarize your words in such a way that we will still hope that we will be there for a long time,

or at least until the end of the war, so come on. well, thank you, oleksiy hetman, a reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, we are now going on a short break and will return with another guest, we will talk about the pokrovsky direction. a journalist who joined the zsu, political expert, who became a special agent, taras berezovyts in a new project on espresso. the real front is a thorough analysis of the main events. reports. comments of leading specialists and experts. analytics from the major of the armed forces. how to make sense of disturbing news and distinguish truth from hostile propaganda. the real front program with taras berezovets every saturday at 21:30 on espresso. so, we return to the chronicles of the war. and with us is serhii tsekhodskyi, an officer of the 59th separate motorized infantry brigade named after yakov

handziuk. i congratulate you, mr. oleksii. sergey, oh, serhii, i’m sorry, this, and, you know, they are trying to do different kursk offensives, there, they blew up morozivsk, the airport, today they fired a few more shots at letovych, but, judging by everything, there are still tensions and attempts on your part of the front the russians don’t stop advancing, like you, what is happening there now, the tension, well... it has decreased a little bit, in general, the enemy’s pressure is on the area of ​​the front where our brigade is part of the krasnohorivka tactical group, but at the same time, the enemy is keeping his troops there . enemy is trying to act, especially to act there , let's say, northern shenazh, us in the direction

of the populated areas of grodivka, here mykolaivka, here, there they are, well, let's say, they are more active , in our area there are also attempts of assaults, attempts i say, precisely there are, but they are no longer so powerful, and let's say, well, it's not... only in connection with the situation in the kurt region, i'll just say frankly that in our area, there have been more than four months of active actions, after all, the enemy was exhausted and very actively exhausted, that's why we still find opportunities to search for their heavy weapons there, to destroy them, only for today's units of the brigade... the bm-21 grad was destroyed, the field depot of bk 122, 120-millimeter guns was destroyed, there was a damaged 120-millimeter mortar, and

there were about five dozens of occupiers have been eliminated, so the fighting continues, the enemy is still dangerous, we need to understand this and relax for the time being, but by the way, so that your... activity is even greater, even more successful, we ask you to join us to the collection for the 59th separate of the motorized infantry brigade, your goal is uah 5 million collected by our soldiers for the needs of bomber pilots, this is exactly what mr. tsekhodskyi said about them, how they blow up everything there, and here you see a qr code, please join, there is also a card number there is, well, that's it... in fact , this is a very necessary and important direction, and we need exactly this gathering, i understand that it would be even better and even more

effective, and even more reduce the power of the enemy, yes mr. serhiu, well, i want to add to your wonderful words that it is thanks to donations that we are able today, well our workshops are working, including. they fill our drones, that is, they strengthen their capabilities, and also today we very skillfully assemble rep means, that is, we learned how to make rep means, and i will say that on average every day we liquidate, that is , deactivate about 100 different flying machines of the enemy, that is every oak tree , but today there were 90. six in a day, this is going along the wing, there are 22 pieces, all the others are fivishkas that are filled with explosives and carry danger, that is thanks to the meetings of our

partners in the rear, i call these people who today it is our partners who are helping us, may god give us health and strength, so that as much as possible we all live to see our victory, well, if you want to be partners of such wonderful... fighters, then please join, you know, such volumes are large you have annihilation, and tell me, what are they mainly attacking now, is it their infantry groups after all, or the involvement of armored vehicles, as you have it now? armored vehicles have not been engaged for almost two, well, almost two weeks, there was an attempt to up to 40 units, the reaction from our side took 15 minutes and that’s it, that’s it that did not make it, still remained on the battlefield on the metallobrukt, here together with their

crews, but these are more infantry assaults and mostly now they use these two-wheeled motorcycles, they move around on them, transport bulls, transport personnel, and that’s about it including every day we have to chase after them and destroy even motorcycles, that is, tourists... they are going in the wrong direction, they have to go there to the urals to escape, but for some reason they are not going in the wrong direction, so we still have to hunt for motorcyclists, and tell me how about well actually, aerial bombing attempts, because there are our airfields working there, do you feel any decrease in cabs and bombings in general, already, already, yes, they periodically launch there... they launch their cabs, periodically, but already i will say that for two days in a row, this is not the case for our front line, and i think that is also included. the result

of this work, which works in the deep body of the enemy, you see, a complex approach, sooner or later it must give a result, and it begins to give it, they still shoot troops from the area of ​​the front, including from the east, we already know for sure that a unit was withdrawn from our area, and a unit was withdrawn from our neighbors and sent there in the kurdish direction, to kurshchyna so to speak, that's why... but at they are keeping this infantry, they have taken out more or less specific units, but they are keeping the infantry, they still hope that something can be expected of them and something here, well, i understand that putin’s situation is very different now, you know, he doesn't know what to do, that's for sure, because it's not military, no a politician in general, not a strategist, this is just

an ordinary thief on the level. i know that the opg can rule there in this way, deceiving its own people all the time, deceiving and deceiving the entire world community. and can you somehow be a little more detailed, you say that they are already shooting little by little, who exactly is being shot, well, that is, how, what, what kind of forces are these? well, look, it means that what we know is better not to voice out loud, so that the enemy does not know what we know about, clearly, yes, this is for... tno correct, this is in war, this is how it should work, no need the enemy to give no chances at all, the smallest ones so that he would be aware of something, that's all, but we know quite a lot of what is done in their units directly, what is done in their rear, we follow everything very carefully , and in general, this work is complex, it is being carried out and will be carried out until the moment we free up all our land, well, but the process itself

is proceeding little by little. yes, uh, but, look, we know that the fighting has already started for grodivka, it is such a serious place, maybe we see such a concentration on this particular direction, if you say, you have a little comfort, maybe somewhere else, but there, apparently , there are more active battles, well, this tactic of the enemy, it was always, you know , to hit everywhere, and.. . to look for weak points somewhere, huh, but there is no need to draw premature conclusions, because, well, you understand, everyone has already understood that the commanders of the armed forces command, our general staff know how to plan operations, know how to make surprises and surprises, because who he knows that the enemy is waiting in the area of ​​the same grodivka, the same mykhailivka, and so on, that's why

prematurely, but the battles are going hard. the enemy is pressing, the enemy thinks that he will be successful there now and so on, it's not easy, as i say, it's all happening against the background of very powerful battles, which everyone is holding, and as neighbors we also help in in this regard, that is why we are waiting for the results, everything that can be said on the air, it is necessary to support exactly that, again to support, i repeat to all our... military personnel, all the defense forces who apply, there is such an opportunity, it is a must it is necessary to support, yes, and your congregation, i also ask to be supported mandatory for bomber pilots, we already talked about it, you see, we now have a current account on the screen, cards, please join, and there is a qr code, and you know, i want to ask you how you think, well, there are such conversations that they spent their efforts to enter the kursk region, it is not known

what... the results are unknown, everything is unknown, it would be better to throw reinforcements at your pokrovsky direction, for example.