the parliament of estonia passed a law, and then the president of estonia ratified this law, which this law allows the use of frozen russian assets to compensate for the damages that russia has caused in this war of aggression in ukraine. several months have already passed, it seems two months have passed since this law came into force, have there already been any transfers, this is the first question, to ukraine, i mean, and the second question is whether other western... countries took an example from estonia, because estonia was the first western country to adopt one law. yes, of course, estonia was one of the first countries that started talking about the need to use frozen russian assets to rebuild ukraine, because the aggressor has to pay a price for it, and we were one of the first countries that... two years ago

she said that we need to start reconstruction, the restoration of ukraine already during the war, we don't need to wait until it ends, because we need to give people hope and help refugees, those who left ukraine and then started to return, so we tried understand, analyze all possible. ways to make russia pay the price for the damage it has done to ukraine, and we have been pioneers in introducing such legislation regarding the use of frozen russian assets to rebuild ukraine. and these assets are not only state assets, but also the property of private individuals and legal entities in estonia. and all those who are under

international sanctions, the law was passed recently, and the regulatory processes are still ongoing, because everything must comply with international rules so that we do not created unnecessary problems for ukraine in the following years, so we are working on it now and i think that we have... great progress in this direction is happening, i hope that we can demonstrate to the whole world that it is possible, that it is possible to use all the frozen assets and the profits from those assets, not only directly, the profits for the simple fact that we held these assets before, and you set a very good example for western countries by passing this law, other countries in ... your

opinion, personal opinion, why they such laws not approved, just your personal opinion, out of fear, or is something else possible? it is very difficult for me to say why certain countries do something or don't do something, but i think that there is still some legal basis. issues, legal issues that countries are discussing, but estonia really, our national legislation tried to do so, in fact to bring it in such a form, to prove that we can do it without violations of european or international legislation. i really hope that the western partners will see this and will not delay will pass similar laws in their countries, but now. let's move on to something else, the post-war

reconstruction of ukraine, after all, even this reconstruction is already underway in different parts of ukraine, including those that were under temporary occupation in the first days of the war. tell me, please, does estonia have any projects, in this case state or non-state projects, with which it helps rebuild ukrainian cities and villages. yes, yes, of course. as i already said, we started this work already in the 22nd year, and all these projects are related to reconstruction in ukraine, then started, in particular, in the zhytomyr region, it is conditionally ours, our region, our region, since estonia is a small country, and we have limited resources, and we thought that we should approach the issue of restoring ukraine.

very complex, that's why we chose one area, one region for ourselves, and we provide assistance for reconstruction right there, we helped to build. a new kindergarten, and we conduct training for teachers, educators, in order for such assistance to be long-term, just not just to build one house or one shelter, but to help in such a way that it is long-term and covers the problems faced by a specific region, understandably. well, but we talked about the money that goes from estonia, or, for example, the military support that goes from estonia to ukraine. let's talk now about the help that ukrainians who are currently in the territory of the republic of estonia receive. do you have any statistics at this very moment,

how many citizens of ukraine are there, and whether there is any tendency to return to ukraine. statistics about ukrainians living now in estonia, and we have provided them with all kinds of help since their first day of arrival in estonia, all kinds of help that we could provide, it is medical care, social protection, education, we also opened two special schools, specialized schools for ukrainian children, where they can be educated in the estonian language, but keep their language, their culture, and can study according to the ukrainian curriculum, so we are trying to do everything

for the ukrainian refugees who are in estonia so that they do not lose this connection with their country, with their culture. of course, we have other plans, projects, but the main slogan of the government is that it is necessary for ukrainians to feel that they are welcome here in estonia, and i can confidently say that ukrainians in estonia definitely feel that they are welcomed in this country because my daughter has been living in the territory of the republic of estonia for more than two years, she studies there and she... knows how estonians think, how estonians help, and how estonians are trying to do everything to bring our joint victory over the russian aggressor closer. now a little about the victory, in estonia, besides, of course, women and children, there are many men who have received, this

is not temporary shelter, it is called temporary protection, as far as i understand in estonia, please tell me, now in many, at least.. . new european countries say that they somehow try to cooperate with the government of ukraine with regard to men who are subject to military service to somehow help these men, at least register in ukraine with the relevant authorities, and maybe even return them to ukraine, is there something similar in estonia? yes, such discussions, such requests began to arrive some time ago, but our previous prime minister said that since people live in the territory of estonia

legally, we gave them temporary passes for we do not plan to send them back to ukraine , because we have rules, we have obligations, and this also comes from european legislation, that is, plans in we are not sending them back to ukraine, but we are cooperating with the ukrainian authorities in this sense. with the ukrainian embassy in tallinn, and we understand that there are needs in ukraine, but i think that many ukrainians who live in ukraine, they want to return to their country, they are waiting for

such an opportunity, for opportunities, to return, this was one of the reasons , why we started so early. of course, we cooperate with the ukrainian authorities in order to understand how to help the ukrainians, but as i say, we are not going to send them back if they they don't want that, of course, madam ambassador, one more question, ah, a question, one might say, from ukrainian students studying in estonia, recently, well, literally a month or two ago... there was information about that, for example, lithuania is going to or has already passed a law according to

which ukrainian students studying on an exchange program will be deprived of benefits, or are they going to do something similar in estonia or not? and we have ukrainian students who have been studying at estonian universities for many years, even before it started. there are many we have ukrainian students and we are proud of them, because they are very smart, they are very eager to study, and so far, i have not had any information about the government's plans to stop assistance under the programs that are currently active. therefore, ukrainian students should calm down, everything will be fine thanks to our, of course, brothers and sisters in estonia. let's

now once again return a little to , unfortunately, the military theme, and talk about red lines, these red lines are talked about a lot in the west, for some they are there, for others they are clearly outlined, for some they are very unclear, but for estonia in this war, in our joint war, i will call it so... in our joint war with the russian aggressor, are there any red lines? this is my favorite question, thanks for it. estonia has never spoken of any red lines. for us , the most important thing, one of the most important things, is... integrity, territorial integrity, democracy, cultural identity of people, and

we strive for this in estonia, in our country, and this is what we like very much in ukraine. and we don't see any red ones lines when it comes to russia's brutal war against ukraine, all war crimes, genocide. what they did, we believe that there cannot be any red lines here, and our goal is to preserve ukrainian independence, democracy, territorial integrity, that is why we support ukraine. in everything we can so that it can achieve these goals, and

accordingly, we do not see any red lines here as such, the government has already said on many occasions that we are ready to discuss any possibility in terms of helping ukrainians, and the most important thing is to help ukraine. to win this war, then we are ready to discuss any solutions, ways, but since we are a small country, we understand that we need to cooperate with other countries, move together, then it will be easier to discuss these issues with our... partners and we are ready to be a pioneer in certain solutions, so our red line, if

i can call it that, or blue-yellow line , is precisely to help ukraine win this war. just great words, it's not a red line, it's a yellow-blue line, and it's to help ukraine to win in this aggressive war. it is simply, simply incredible. i thank you very much. for that, but look, in estonia itself, i understand that you are now trying with all your might to help us win this war, but is n't it viewed in the same way in estonia. they will say whether they are preparing, i will say directly, whether they are preparing in estonia for a possible attack by russia now, because they talked about it a lot at the beginning of the invasion of ukraine 2.5 years ago, but are they talking about it now in estonia, of course, when we became an independent state,

at the beginning of the 90s... "we have always been very careful with our neighbor and we had no illusions that russia has no plans to invade, and we are always in nato and in the eu , talked about a possible threat from russia, we..." we warned other countries about this, so we have been preparing for self-defense for a long time since the beginning of the 90s, that is why we wanted to acquire membership in the eu, and we wanted to join in nato, we prepared step by step for this, and

every year we increased our expenses. for protection, for defense and called others, others nato countries for this, to protect themselves both individually and jointly, collectively. therefore , yes, we are preparing, and we continue to prepare. i can't say that we started to think about it or prepare only after the 14th year, when russia... occupied part of ukraine, or after the start of a full-scale war, we did step by step, every day, something to protect ourselves from this evil, and one must always prepare and defend against this evil, because this evil is not foreseen, this evil can attack in any wave, i am witnesses this time we were in february 2022, so we have to

constantly prepare, let's say a few more words about ordinary estonians, your country is not... big, but as far as i know, different people live in different parts, of course, what is the attitude after 2.5 years of full-scale invasion of ukraine by estonians, before your government's support of ukraine and before what is happening in ukraine. why am i asking because, as far as i know, in the north-east of estonia, in the narva area, there are a lot of russian-speaking citizens of estonia living there, or they support it. all actions of your estonian government in support of ukraine? yes, for many years we have a russian-speaking minority living in estonia, we have been trying to integrate them into estonian society for almost 30 years, and

of course we see that there is a certain contingent of people who do not...want this integration, they still look more in the direction of russia, but estonia, estonian society and the government of estonia, of course we continue to support ukraine, it is not even a question of reducing such aid, i think that since... the war has been going on for more than 2.5 years , and the brutality of putin's regime every day is increasing, strengthening, and we are ready to help ukraine in the long term, not only for victory, but also for further recovery,

that's why support is increasing, i can say. and if we look at non-governmental organizations, ordinary citizens who help ukraine, we see that every month or even every week support comes from ordinary estonians who collect or provide humanitarian aid, but just yesterday i read that a... three estonian of non-governmental organizations that help ukraine, more than 2.5 years, they again sent a new one to ukraine. aid column and there were medical products, and

drones, and military aid, for the front, for the army, for rescuers, they help and the aid continues to arrive and even increases in volume, because, as i said, this is the seizure of ukraine, it is very big in estonia, and every day we are shocked by the brutality of putin's regime, that he continues this brutality, and of course our support will not decrease, it will only increase, well, this is a mutual admiration, i must tell you, we admire estonians for their support and assistance to ukraine. at the very beginning, because in some countries they are trying to find some things to justify the fact that they do not want to help, and we admire the estonians, who

have helped and supported us since the first day of the war. madam ambassador, i thank you very much for visiting me today, and the last question for you: you have been in ukraine for a year, i understand that you have a busy schedule, you came to us after an important meeting, i mean no interviews, and you have many such meetings, but do you have any? time, did you have time this year to travel, travel around ukraine a little, do you have a favorite place in ukraine? oh, definitely. when i came to ukraine, a year ago, i told my colleagues that i am an ambassador in ukraine, not in kyiv, which means that i have to travel a lot and see how local communities live, i... have to communicate with people, and so , i was in kharkiv, odesa, rivne, zhytomyr, of course, this is our

partner, a partner region, and i was in many parts of ukraine, and i think it is important to demonstrate to local communities that we support them, and we are not afraid to come to them, come to these. territory, because we understand that what they face every day are these attacks, shelling, alarms, and it is important for me to demonstrate that i am here, i am ready to provide adequate information to my capital, so that they can decide that more help is needed in in this direction or in another direction, i really love your country, it is very much. beautiful, very wonderful, every day i see more and more, surprisingly, very

beautiful things, and i like it very much the resilience of ukrainians, and by the way, i was also on the front line at the beginning of march, i said that i needed to talk to the soldiers. to see what was happening at the front, and it was during those difficult times, when foreign aid began to be somehow reduced or delayed, and i then said that i needed to get this feedback from the front itself, so that i could pass this information to tallinn, so that they can make the necessary decisions about what... specifically is needed, so i will continue to travel, now i want to focus more in those areas that face more than

everyone with the energy crisis and to understand what is specifically needed for these regions, so of course i will travel as much as possible, traveling lady ambassador, for that we thank her and thank you for all the help and support. we receive from the government of estonia and from ordinary estonians, who from the very beginning began to help us defend our country, our independence, our sovereignty and our territorial integrity. madam ambassador, i thank you very, very much for being here today joined this conversation. send thanks to all the citizens of your country for everything you do for us. ah, it was an interview with the ambassador of the republic of estonia in ukraine. who came to us a year ago and has already done a lot in this position. espresso interviews will continue. my name is yuriy fizar. see you soon.

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