wives, sisters, daughters, have gone through the same experience as you, and we understand that the war is not over, and therefore many more will go through this experience, so i wanted you to share it today, that we need to know where to turn , how to act in such situations, you remember those first minutes, hours, days, what you did, who supported you and... and in general, i received the greatest support from my sister yulia cherninka, from my best friend marina savka and from marta, mykhailo's wife, my daughter-in-law, well, of course from moms, it was such a support, if it wasn't for them, i don't know if i would be alive today, the support was fantastic, what to do... such moments, to be honest, for me

that period of time was, i didn't i remember everything, it was like in a fog, i only remember that everywhere in all the institutions where we went, marta supported me by the hand and only said: here you have to sign, here you have to, i didn't even read, because i could not understand anything at all, what is happening, if a person finds himself in such a situation as me, only i remember that you have to file a police report with... the sbu, the red cross, the un, the commissioner for missing persons, and the coordination headquarters, that's the main thing, where you have to submit everything, all applications according to their requirements. here, i recently applied , there is this alexey yukov, he drives, forget it. it's called his, the bridgehead, the bridgehead

and the black tulip, we also filed an application there, all the data about mykhailo and the banana boy who disappeared together with mykhailo, this is his brother and a close friend. how did i survive? well, actually, i really survived, because i still survive, i can't call it life because it's survival. first of all, i turned to qualified specialists, never turn to psychologists, they will not help you, this is not a situation where a psychologist helps, a psychologist is a breakup with a boyfriend, things are not going well at work, well, then the corner, then you can go to a psychologist , when such a situation occurs, a psychologist is like a poultice for a dead person, he will not help you, you take one step forward, two steps back, one step forward, two steps back, you need to turn. to a psychiatrist, and

a practicing, qualified one, with good ones with recommendations to give you the right medical support and to have a specialist, a psychotherapist, work with you, she has been working with me for a year, viktoria zabor, she works as a psychotherapist, we spend an hour together with me every week on thursdays, and she prescribes me medication and changes, changes . medicine, so that i don't get used to some, to others, eh, ludmila oleksiivna samsonova, these are two, two people, these, these are two pillars, thanks to which i also survived, and thanks to which i have them on facebook, they read all my posts , it is like my medical history for them, after how long did you contact, how long after may 20 did you contact the specialists? i think somewhere in the middle of june,

because yes, somewhere in the middle of june, i called mariana savka, yulichka's sister didn't leave me at all for three weeks, she was just with me 24/7. i called mariana, yulichka left sometime then, i called her and said that i will go to the hospital, but please go with me so that i don't give up at the last moment, because we all do. children of the soviet union are used to the fact that psychiatry is something very scary. you made this decision yourself, or did your loved ones, i made the decision myself, because i realized that i was falling into an abyss, and i am still waiting for my son, and i do not want him to see me in some inadequate state , and my condition has actually risen to the level of inadequate, well, here it is probably worth telling our viewers about... that until

today you do not know whether he is alive or what happened to him, brothers, everyone shouts with one voice , that he died, and they are sure of it. no body, no business, i'm not sure, and i'll never trust anyone to the end, i'll wait, i'll wait, if i have to, i'll wait all my life, but i'll wait, that's how i got out from this state, i started writing posts, i started writing posts on the internet, communicating with my son, i remembered our stories from his childhood, from the beginning, how he was... small, how he was a teenager, what stories we had, what funny and tragic stories we had, here and there, and i am alone their hashtag was written: lemberg, two dots, mom tsina don't cry, lemberg, mom tsino don't cry, lemberg is my son's call sign, at first

he had the call sign lviv, but when he moved east, there was a lviv position, and not to confuse position with a call sign, his peers renamed him lemberg. this is the ancient name of lviv, so i also wrote posts about myself, about my feelings, about how i was a mother before, from the beginning of a large-scale war, an invasion, a great war, until may 20, 2023, what kind of mother i was, what we did what we got, it was just as if my son called me and said: mom, i need so-and-so, and... but it is on mars, and i would say: there is, and i would fly to mars, i bought him such things, whoever reads the book, that will understand that it was simply impossible to do it, and i said: i will do it, and when he wanted to transfer, he said, mom,

they don't want, well, a fighter like him, of course, no one wanted to transfer, he is beautiful, he has proven himself and all the recommendations that my comrades later... wrote to me and the commanders wrote and commented on him, and i understood that of course, no one wanted to translate him, he wanted so, he passed this height, he needs to go even higher, he has already passed this, gained knowledge, he needs to go higher, and here he tore, tore, and finally, he already left from the first days of full-scale , from the first days alone, he came to the boarding school three times, they told him, we will call you back, and he went by himself, and then he said: "mom, guess what, i'll get a summons, but i'm already here"? and he said to me once, mom, they don't want to transfer me, you have a way out for a job, well damn, who are you who am i and who is the industrious, where do i have access to the industrious, but i know so much that he believes in me as in god and that i am such an authority for him, i said, of course i will find it, i did not

know how it would happen, but for i already had a phone for three days, in the evening i wrote to valery fedorovych, and in the morning mykhailo had already been transferred, valery fedorovych sent me all the documents. these are the stories in this book, stories from him, how he became a man, how he became a boy, how he fought, our military stories, reviews of, well, the book non-fiction, but it reads like fiction, and of course my experience, how i got out of this situation, this book has long been called a primer for the military, for military relatives, for relatives and for those who... no no related to the war, so that he could understand us and we became closer to each other, and explain why for relatives, please, why for relatives, what, what is in the book, what is it, i wrote about my experience, it will be for relatives the primer,

i wrote and fully evaluated them today , you know, after a few examples, that is just tell me exactly what i wrote, and the feedback started to be very strong. after the publication of this book, people started writing to me every day, i receive letters from people i don't know, mothers, sisters, wives write them, and literally this morning i received a letter, thank you, some inna wrote me the name, i don't remember it, thank you for the fact that you wrote this book, while reading it i got to know my husband when he told me how he was little, how he grew up, all these stories, it gives the impression: what you wrote about my husband, ivanka dymyt, if you remember, reading my posts on the internet, she said: "god, i see artemko, i see my artemko, these are children born in free ukraine." they are completely different, plus or minus there are several years. and this

book is a primer. as i once dreamed, when i got to the clinic, my doctor was treating me according to viktor frankl's method. and i realized that my son often quoted different phrases, and when i now recognize that they are frankl's phrases, i understand that my son read frankl and was interested in him, and i was in very good hands, and i ... when victor frankol wrote the book in search of true meaning, yes, it seems that's what it's called, this is a person who lived through a concentration camp, and he shared his experience, how he survived, what he achieved, what he operated on, what his meanings were, and people when this war ended, the second world war, this book of his became a primer, because almost the whole world was wounded by this war, and people, reading this book, and it immediately became a bestseller, reading this book, they had such a primer for themselves, a survival primer , and i

realized, writing these posts, to me serhiy rudenko and volodymyr vyatrovych wrote that it should be a book, they just wrote to me in personal messages, it should be a book, and i collected this book, collected these posts into a book, named this book under this hashtag, and i have there was a feeling that maybe it will be, well, i don't want to... praise myself very much there, but it might be with something similar to viktor frankl's book, only it was during the second world war, and a wounded society read it, and now our ukrainian wounded society, reading this book, will find a lot in common, a lot of kinship, will see this experience, and maybe in this experience will find some... necessary things, who are these people who come to you now at the presentation of this

book, when you visit different cities of ukraine, i did not even expect that the presentations would be so crowded and that the book would have such great publicity, because the first edition was sold out in three weeks, i did not expect that it would be so necessary and so interesting for everyone, the people who come , first of all they fit to sign. buy a book at a presentation, they come to sign, and everyone wants to hug me, and i want to hug this person, we hug, each person should spend a few minutes, talk, someone is a mother, someone is a neighbor, someone is a wife, someone is just a person who cares, and more i noticed that mostly at all my presentations people cry in the hall, some are afraid to read this book. thinking that it is very strong, dramatic, in fact, it is a drama

of light, who has already read it, they say, there is so much light and so much flight, reading it, you grow wings and want to fly, so you sometimes you cry over some chapters, but these tears are clean and bright, these tears of faith, hope and love, maybe those people who come... to you for a presentation, maybe you remember, maybe someone told you a story that you were impressed, and maybe someone had a story similar to yours, and you can share it , there was, there was not one, there was not one, when a woman approaches, and her daughter-in-law, her husband's wife wrote a book, he had an eagle. the last name is orlov, and my mother came to the presentation, and my wife could not come then

to the presentation, my mother came, and we both cried, hugged a lot, but she already knows for sure that he died, everyone who knows me, who writes to me, who cares, people believe that mykhailo will return, i also really want believe and i really want him to write a sequel to this book, it would probably be called... the return, that's how i want it, god willing. olenko, well, going back to what you know about your son today, and what you don't know about his fate today, what, what answers do they send you, what do they say, none, nothing, hush hush hush, i talk to many of his brothers. i communicate with combrig pavel palisa, i

communicate with his kombat, bravo, i communicate with the financial department, because marta was there to process the receipt of assistance, as a wife, she is afraid of the military, she has a terrible fear, so i had to communicate on her behalf, so that... . in march, money came in, and we are very good friends with her, we were not so friends before, but now we can go to the beauty salon together. heat, just keep quiet even together, we are comfortable, and i think that mykhailo is happy if he knew this. you are lucky, because you have such a beautiful family that will support you, maybe you found out when you traveled, traveled with this book

to different cities of our country, maybe there are some special unions that unite such women, maybe... . some organizations that help, because we understand that not everyone is really lucky, sometimes with family, with friends, and not everyone can get such colossal support, there are, of course, unions, there are organizations, and i was invited repeatedly, i am not yet ready for unions and organization, i communicate with ivanka dymyt, this communication is enough for me, she supports me a lot, but i am not ready, why, tell me, do you think that we are all different, we are all different, and i , to be honest, i am a little afraid of this communication, it seems to me that it will harm me, well, this is what my inner intuition tells me for today, maybe i will change my mind later, so far yes, you are afraid, because

there can be a lot of grief , i perceive each grief as... and listening to each one story, for me this is another trigger. i even recently stopped reading the news, because i cry every time, every time a photo of a hero who died flies on facebook, i cry over every photo, i thought that i am not ready yet. i'm not ready, that's how i made up my mind, and i got a lot of advice, and i made up my mind whether to adopt or adopt a child, but my doctor says: until you adopt yourself,... you're not ready when you 'll be able to stand on your feet, it can be a very strong help and change you, or maybe on the contrary you will not be able to give this child anything, whatever you can, find your resource, love yourself, hug yourself, there are even such psychotherapy classes, you hug yourself,

feel yourself and feel sorry for yourself, or look in the mirror at yourself and... talk to yourself, to your self, feel yourself, feel sorry for yourself and understand that life was given to you by god, and you don't have the right to waste it, it happens, people leave, people come, people leave again, and my psychotherapist also said: "take this, how madonna held her child ", and imagine that this baby is your child, do you have... you have no right to harm her, yes you have to treat your life yourself, i 'm trying to understand it now and live with it, feel it and be, be like that. maybe you have something else to advise our viewers who

have experienced grief, and maybe you know some other practices. or what helped you, movies, books you read, write posts, on facebook, write, don't be ashamed, don't be ashamed, do a moral striptease, don't be ashamed, do n't be ashamed to show your steadfastness, your pain, don't be ashamed to show your despair, don't keep it to yourself, choose a hashtag and every day write a post, write about your husband, write about your child, write about your brother, tell stories, share, let the whole world know and hear and be proud just like you are proud. tell me, please, look, what are the next steps, someone told you, maybe some government agencies,

maybe the military, they told you what your next steps should be, what to do? nothing, wait. wait i passed my dna my ex did too dna test all we could we did now we have to just wait, the territory where mykhailo and bananchyk disappeared is under occupation, no one will go there, if suddenly their wounded are taken prisoner, that side never gives any lists, at least... it is supposed to give lists according to all un rules, they should give lists, they don't, unless it's possible through some special telegram channels. to catch them, to search for them, which i do from time to time, but to no avail, because, well, what else can be done, i would have already gone there, i would have already

crawled there and i would have kissed that land of bahmut and i would wait for my son and look for him, i don't know what can be done, i did everything that was possible, by the way, i remember this idea of ​​yours when you talked about the fact that you wanted to go there. i heard it every morning in kramatorsk, you wake up and hear only bang, bang, bang, bang, you hear the war going on, and as close as possible to me, my brother, classmate mykhailo, who also serves there, felix, he took me as close as possible. so that i could launch helium balloons with a letter to mykhailo and the banana boy, i wrote them a letter that i was waiting for them, and we are still very

laughed that there would be an incomprehensible object in the sky, it would be shot down like this, well, nothing, it flew and when i looked at it, it disappeared right from my eyes, i took these balls to gelivha from lviv, we were in a bus from as volunteers, we traveled with everyone... we shook with all our property and these balls traveled with us all the way, the war continues and my next question to you will probably be difficult, very difficult, i think that i am no longer afraid of anything in this world, not even death i'm not afraid anymore, look, women and mothers are looking at you now, who, thank god, have sons. alive and would you let your son go, knowing that it would happen exactly like this, i didn't let him go, i did

terrible things that i just didn't do, i begged him, his company, where he works, he works as a business analyst in a well-known american it company, engaged in banking, his salary was much more expensive than his... there was much more there, he knows the language perfectly, he is an excellent specialist, his it people are for everything, everything was collected and bought, so that only he would have everything, everything is the best, that only i, i restrained him at the beginning of the war, he i was still a schoolboy, then a freshman, he was eager for a big war, i didn't just make it up, i even sinned by... giving terrible diseases about myself, i lied to him, and this time, well, how can you stop an adult boy , that i did not tell him, as i did not ask him, as i did not beg him, he said:

mom, one day i will have children, maybe a second and a third, and these children will one day be forced to go to war against moskal, if we don't get this thing over with now, we 'll pass the children on... too bad, we'll pass it on war of inheritance, so inheritance is bad, that's how he thought, well, maybe it was the wrong construction of the sentence, because really, how can you not let go of a real man, when he made a decision, his wife, we didn't let go, i understand those mothers , who hide their sons, i understand them, i understand everyone, and people are afraid. not everyone can, well , he was like that, brothers, as they said about him, he says, he is the guy with whom you can not talk about fishing or zhiguli, with whom you can talk about roman law, with whom you can talk about everything

world wars, talk about everything you want, he was an intellectual, he is, i will talk about him in the present tense, plus, this is the person who once, so the guy said verbatim, when we were in a terrible situation, and already it seemed that all of us would not get out of here, mykhailo joked and cheered everyone up and laughed, and we, looking at him, were charged with this positivity, and it was easier for us, he emotionally held the whole team, and the second tells, says: we also said goodbye to life, here you are walking in the footsteps to help us, and we persevered and we left, he went first, as the commander, the commander must go at the end, he went first. and he was the last one to leave, and another one of his comrades said that mykhailo had saved several dozen lives, that's how quickly he came to lviv with his wife, and i'm trying

to find free time and go to them in zaporizhzhia, and i also want to visit parents , little banana, maybe there are words that you would like to say to all wives, mothers today, there are words that i really want to say to everyone, speak and love now, don't put anything off for later, because then it may not be , say that you love, say that you are proud, say everything that you think is the best, never put it off for later, because then it may not happen. and i want to thank you and tell me the book, you can still order, buy, the book can be ordered everywhere on the internet, everywhere, just by typing the name lembertsenu do not cry, or my last name, the name is olena cherninka,

it can be ordered everywhere on the internet, and also . you can buy it in a store, in bookstores, old lion coffee shops, in bookstores and in many others. olenka, i thank you for yours son, thank you for this interview, that you agreed, and you know, i still believe that lemberg will return to us, we all believe, and that we will remember it, and that soon there will be our victory, thank you. thank you very much, there are 10% discounts on pills until independence day at the psarynsky, bam and oskad pharmacies. we were once told that independence fell from the sky to the ukrainians, they were wrong, our independence is

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