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regularly passes new laws, but how do these changes affect our lives? we have analyzed the new decrees to inform you about the latest changes in ukrainian legislation. how do legislative norms change our lives, what should we prepare for? leading lawyers of the aktum bar association will answer these and other questions that concern ukrainians. watch every tuesday at 7:55 in the program. examination on espresso tv channel. dear friends, we are back, the final half hour, we start them, i will say it again, i adore our viewers, that's what they said, give more, and they did so and listened, now 32 have been added to our account for the guys for three brigades, here is the qr -code, don't bypass it, dear friends, open the cameras on your...
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phones, point the camera at the qr code and scan, please, and we will talk this time, we will talk with our next guest, kateryna rashevska, a human rights activist lawyer of the regional human rights center. mrs. katerina, welcome, good day. ms. kateryna, we called you on this occasion, now everyone is talking about the kursk region, everyone is watching what is happening there, how events are unfolding, and many people are saying, well, come on. finally, ukraine is taking its own, do we need this russian one, which is russian territory? you know, when people call themselves their own, i want to remind you that this is the sovereign territory of the russian federation, which , like the russian federation, is ours, we was recognized in 1991 after the declaration of independence and after the conclusion of the relevant agreements with the aggressor state, therefore there is nothing... we are not there, and ukraine,
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the armed forces of ukraine, the defense forces, have never declared that we are waging some kind of wanton war there , are we going to annex something, add it to the composition of ukraine. i also want to draw attention to the statement of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, which clearly emphasizes that this is not a takeover, this is a military occupation. military occupation, it is legitimate, from the international point of view humanitarian law, from the point of view of international law as a whole, ukraine enjoys. fully ours, i apologize, according to tactology, the right to self-defense provided for by the un charter, article 51 , nothing restricts us from withdrawing hostilities on the territory of the aggressor state, but they will not remain in ukraine permanently, ukraine is there, using the language of the aggressor, no, not always, yes, you know, there was a plot of this italian film crew of the italian television rayunu, it seems, and there the journalist approaches in the center, there in the center of this trial. there are some
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people are sitting, some girl, i don't know, a teenager, she is a young girl, she comes up to her and says, well, there are soldiers there, how are the ukrainian military towards you, they are kind. well, the intonation itself, as she said it, relaxed, calm, well, there was a feeling that, what really she had, well, she is not afraid, she does not feel, she does not feel fear, i just imagine what the occupation was like, for example, those in the early days, i don't think that an italian journalist could simply go outside and ask, and secondly... there of a child sitting at a bus stop, a child would not be sitting at a bus stop, kindness was enough for one day, when they were still told, like, now you will be greeted with flowers, well, as soon as they realized that no, cruel things started there, people were raped there, people were killed there, we know all this, in short,
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i am talking about the fact that uh, well, our military is really not like that, we are completely different, even where we are now near... there where russian citizens are now under our jurisdiction, our military is acting in accordance with the norms of international humanitarian law, since we adhere to these norms, we are a state party to the fourth geneva convention, we must adhere to the third and fourth sections of this convention and the treaty as a whole, when they were created, the military commandant was created, the norms of the hague regulations also came into force, which have a character , including customary ones, and what the girl from... said about the kindness of the ukrainian military is absolutely not surprising, because our armed forces simply obey the norms of international humanitarian law, which international human rights law. the russian military did not leave the children behind, they deported them to their own territory or forcibly relocated them within the occupied
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territories of ukraine. at the same time, the goal of the russian military was completely different. i have already tried to emphasize that for the russian federation it was a seizure and seizure of the territories of ukraine. the only goal was the annexation of these territories, the eradication of ukrainian identity there and thus the destruction of at least a part of the ukrainian national group as such, we never the life of the republic as a single state, moreover, when we talk about a separate ukrainian national group, we thus indirectly recognize the separateness of the same russian national group, so we do not need anything from them, we are in these territories temporarily in accordance with the occupation regime , we are from... responsible for security and order in these territories, we must provide humanitarian aid to the population, we must provide them with proper nutrition, medical services, soon it will be necessary to organize and provide educational services for children services, this is important, because it will be september 1, the beginning of the school year, and all this will
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be done in accordance with their identity, and their identity is russian and not at all ukrainian, mrs. vereshchuk, minister. announced that people will be evacuated from the kurdish region to the territory of ukraine and that they will be dealt with here, this caused great indignation among ukrainians, how to react here, whether ukraine can afford to evacuate russian citizens to ukraine, receive them here, feed them , when there is a very large number of our refugees who feel unprotected, who feel abandoned. very often, who say that they have to rely on themselves when they leave their own homes, well, isn't this in this case some kind of mirror action, as the russians do with the ukrainians, we actually capture people, so in order not to commit an international crime, deportation, as you
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say, is not a mirror image of what the aggressor state did, we need to comply with several requirements: first, if there is no alternative to evacuation, then it can only be... carried out, which means alternative to evacuation? you can really try to create something like a security zone, but for this or a neutral zone, a demilitarized zone, but for this you need the consent of the russian federation, which will also have to guarantee the security of its own population. i, for example, am not sure that the russian federation will make contact and agree to this. it would be possible to try somehow to secure the population without evacuation through the presence of international ngos or governments. organizations, however, will they agree and risk their own with its own staff, and will not simply put their feet up and drag out the process, it is also unknown, therefore, in the event that there is an urgent military necessity, or security measures for the civilian population require it, ukraine can indeed organize an evacuation,
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but we need to see where our state can to evacuate this russian civilian population, in the best case it should take place within the occupied territories occupied by ukraine, i.e. all these statements of the russian federation about the so-called evacuation of the population kurshchyna to the occupied zaporizhzhia region or to the occupied crimean peninsula, they do not meet international standards. rights, they are a violation of it and reach the threshold of a war crime, colonization of the occupied territory. if it will be impossible to do this within the occupied territories, then it is necessary to negotiate with the russian federation on the opening of a safe evacuation corridor in the direction of the russian federation, and as far as is known, not only the ukrainian military is talking about this, but also the russians themselves, who give certain media comments that so far russia is not talking about any evacuation corridor, has not yet made any request to ukraine, therefore, probably as the worst option,
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the most undesirable, but such people will have to be temporarily evacuated to the territory for a certain period of time of ukraine. and in this case, in order to reduce certain, certain indignation, anger from some part of the ukrainian population, it is worth making sure that this process is covered as much as possible by the budgets of international governmental organizations, for example, the international immigration organizations. or the office of the un high commissioner for refugees, it is also necessary to try to negotiate with the russian federation on the further removal of these persons, help them, open them access to the russian federation through third countries, or through belarus, through the baltic states, so that they can immediately return to the territory of russia and not to stay on the territory of ukraine. this will be the most optimal option in order to maintain a balance between military necessity, the interests of the russian civilian population, as well as my own ukrainian national interests, i also wanted to ask you,
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a video appeared here, where a russian captured young guy, who managed to fight for three days, and went on this mobilization, to fight for money, was captured, and here he they arranged a meeting when he was captured, he quoted something from the boy's heart, i just don't know this music, they arranged a meeting for him with the one who... performed this song, oleksandr yarmak, then our rapper, whom i don't know either, because it's not the kind of music i listen to, and here this young man confesses to him, this russian prisoner of war, that he respects him and loves him very much, all this music, and i think that the one with him, this oleksandr is calmly talking to himself, a few days ago there was news, what's up, there was a video of the russians holding their heads and saying that they were ukrainians... a serviceman whom they captured, they cut off his head and said that this would happen to everyone, there is an investigation now
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, it is being determined whether it is true or false, i don't know what is true, how to find out, in what way confirm this information, well, but we know that the russians do this to ukrainian prisoners, we are talking about all kinds of conventions, international rights and so on, but there are statistics that there are 95%, it seems approximately , and 95% of tortured ukrainian prisoners of war, you absolutely right, survived torture, yes. and what can we do in this case, all these, all these international rights, russia simply ignores, and does, and does barbaric acts, and just look at it calmly? let's put the emphasis here and try to make a certain one for ourselves action algorithm. first, international law and international humanitarian law do not allow reprisals and retaliatory actions. that is, if the russian federation violates massively. in particular , the third geneva convention, and it tortures ukrainian prisoners of war, treats
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them inhumanely, there is no humane treatment there, this does not give ukraine the green light to do the same with its prisoners of war. secondly, we adhere to the norms of international humanitarian law and international law, human rights, not because we are very kind and feel sorry for the russian prisoners of war, and because we are a civilized, democratic legal state that has assumed these obligations and fulfills them, in particular, with its own interest. in order to maintain the level of support from a large part of the world, in order to have that support and win over the russian federation, so it's ours, let it be our own self-interest, let it be our own humanity, but it has to go on and continue, that is, we cannot simply violate the rights of russian prisoners of war and russian civilians population. as for how to check, verify information from russian telegram channels and other sources? we really need to be careful here, because the russian federation has long since launched a large-scale
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disinformation campaign, it is trying to stimulate, including our military, to commit certain violations in order to later discredit the defense forces and reduce support for us, we must not allow this to happen , we have to thoroughly check the information, be careful, because even what was in the kurt region, where already appeared videos fabricated with the ukrainian military, where they somehow pose. not so to the civilian population, it turned out that this is all russian hollywood, where there were absolutely no ukrainian military personnel, unfortunately, the russian federation has every opportunity to dress its own actors in ukrainian uniforms, which... were not taken from ukrainian prisoners of war and wrap their hands with blue scotch tape, so we maintain defense and information hygiene and try to check several times, and what concerns in general about humanity, about behavior and about the way the russian federation violates the norms of international law, here one must remember the responsibility, and it will necessarily be
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for the russians, the military, their commanders, the civil command of the state in... including the international criminal court, therefore, we simply try to behave in a civilized manner and wait for international justice to win, and not self-judgment. thank you, mrs. kateryna, kateryna rashevska, law enforcer, lawyer of the regional human rights center, was with us, dear friends, well now zoryana skaletska, the minister of health of ukraine, in 2019-2020 we will talk about the history surrounding the okhmadit hospital, which was damaged by the russian attack and... and after that, ms. zoryana, we welcome you, can you hear us? yes, something separated us, i see some problems with communication, dear friends, in fact, after that , a huge number of people rushed to donate to the hospital and donated and transferred this money to a charity fund, and now this
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charity fund is not gives 370.8 million to the hospital. why does it happen like this, in fact, this we want to find out, and also talk about the scandalous tender that you won, one firm that merged literally, well, not one firm, it merged several firms, literally it happened after the announcement of the tender, about what is known from around that scandal, what is the development there, while we are waiting for ms. and there is already ms. zoryana on our airwaves, ms. zoryana. congratulations, congratulations, so here is this strange story about how everyone collected, transferred money, collected huge amounts of money, and now you have this money, the charity fund, what is this money for reforged, does not give the hospital for reconstruction, how is this possible? i think that the law-enforcement
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authorities will find out exactly how it is possible, because every fund that is transferred to charitable funds, they have a specific purpose... the other question is that if the ukrainians transferred funds with a specific purpose simply to okhmadit, not to reconstruction, not for repairs, but simply for okhmadit, then really the aspect of what you can spend money on in the charity fund increases greatly, i understand that there could have been a certain kind of bad communication, we call it, yes then, when we understand that in hepatitis, as in a hospital that has serious losses today, there is a need for... large, let's say, purchases of services for reconstruction, for repairs, in fact certain small such purchases, for example, certain consumables or something else, today the benefactors are closing it anyway, the charitable foundation, in fact, when it publicly notes that we were not approached for any need, but small needs, they
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are closed anyway today, and i am more than sure that will be closed in the future, and a large amount - this carrying out. a tender for reconstruction for repairs, it really needs to be accumulated in one account, and it is not possible to conduct a tender in this way, where the money will be a little from one account, from another organization, from another, this is the first, second, this is the key story, it was just a moment was used, which few people understood and carried out explanatory work, and the ukrainians did not clarify much, because the account, even such a hospital as kohmadit has a special account to which money can be transferred to ordinary citizens as well. us without the need to use an auxiliary organization, charitable funds, as it was once before, when we understood that the hospital could not accept payments, today there is a special account, and to this special account, the charity fund itself should have transferred the funds, and this is a matter of poor communication somewhere, somewhere lack of understanding of how
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procurement works, conducting tenders, and so on, and perhaps some other simple difficulties. mutual understanding, how was it possible, i don’t know, in such a case, in such a case, somehow everything would be done so crookedly, obliquely and corruptly, it was the director of the hospital who provided the data for this charity fund, he said to transfer money there, look who, who, who, wait, many people can tell you what, the truth is, you as conscious citizens should understand for yourself where there is effectiveness, where there is responsibility, do you know this organization earlier, i would be here now in this situation , who said what to whom. i didn't pay attention, i would have paid attention, let's go to a higher order, i still don't see corruption here, there is bad communication, bad setting, but - relationships, and they can be solved quite easily without some loud noise. again with additional warm-ups in the media, yes, and some posts, and direct work on one platform, to put everyone on the same platform and conduct as much as possible, you know, moderation, facilitation, and to
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bring to a common denominator , the other is more important, let's still pay attention to this restoration of ochmadite, repair, purchase of this or that necessary there's damaged equipment, it's really work that needs to be done in the next six months, and it will be a priority. be responsible, control, i hope, for us every month to report, the recovery council, and this is the function that, as of today, i hope will not just be elected, but will actually be carried out as soon as possible and under the supervision of the ministry of health, but there is a more serious problem for all of us, which we actually do not we do not notice, perhaps due to ignorance of the ukrainian law. changes have been made since january 1, 25 , okhmadit must become a state non-commercial enterprise, do a lot of preparatory work, internal and
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financial, personnel changes, organizational, legal, in order to be able to receive funding and pay for its activities from january 1, this means that in fact, in the next six months, in addition to repair works, restoration works. there are quite a lot of other tasks to be completed and steps taken, and today this suspension of the manager, who was already engaged in this work, is only in fact to extinguish a certain political effect, and even a scandal, and i may in general cause such that there will be difficulties with work since january 1, 25th year of ohmadit as such, there may be several here solutions, several proposals, one of them is simple... from january 1, 25, khmadit should not be transferred to a state non-commercial enterprise, leave it as a budget institution, then there is still time, let's say, to have time to do
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everything and not lose the funding of this institution, or then everyone should work as hard as possible not only in the context of the council, which should transparently highlight this to us as much as possible, but also separately and in parallel deal with the creation of all the necessary steps, including personnel ones, now and everything related to the transition and contact with ohmaditu's nszu with 1 january 25th, madam, it’s early, there’s a minute left, i wanted to ask if you know where maksym stepanov is now, but i found his page, somewhere in a good place, he posts pictures with his mother, in a word, everything is fine with him, although, i i think that this is definitely not a question for me, boys and girls, i know, but i think that you and him somehow got along with him there, no way, got along, okay, fine, but let me remind you that the minister was so-and-so.
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i will briefly ask, a lot of people think, or actually pass the tests, that they are sick with covid, for this flirting, is it worth it to worry about how dangerous he is, whether he can still kill people this flirt literally. we have half a minute, i want to say that everyone should take care of their health, if we understand that we have certain diseases, chronic, certain defects, certain difficulties, debates about our health, including avoid contact with masses of people and get vaccinated, maybe you should pay attention to yourself if you have a good enough immunity, there is no such order to diseases, i think there is a chance to be as responsible as possible and not touch touch such negative results. and don't worry about your health, thank you. zuryana skeletska, minister of health of ukraine in 19-20 years. dear friends, thank you. you and i collected 33 this morning. lesya vakulyuk, andriy saichuk worked for you in this studio.
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