a spoonful of poison - we have the east of ukraine, where at the same time we are gradually losing territory every day, i just really want your esteemed audience not only to perceive from the point of view: "hey, hey, we are cutting down the russians here, but how there we will go to the kurdish as, or something else, the russians are already standing almost close to the city of pokrovska, this is to understand that the hostilities are not stifling there, that is, i am saying this for balance, for understanding." no matter how inspiring the situation is on the one hand, on the other hand it is very, very difficult. and so, to your question, i don't think that we are talking about a buffer zone there, because come on, modern weapons, modern ballistic missiles, well, they transform any zone, or rather, if there is a buffer zone with modern ballistic weapons, then it must pass somewhere conditionally in the area of ​​the second garden ring in moscow. ugh, this is for understanding, because the 500 km iskander tactical complexes are not at all...

a question, ah, i am considering this story more, this operation is coming in order to make new, let's say, conditions from the ukrainian side for the beginning of peace negotiations, please remember the russian federation, as soon as they start talking about some theoretical peace talks, they say this: taking into account the current realities on the ground, which means, where the foot of a russian serviceman lies, they want to recognize by the russian federation. in a similar way , ukraine decided to break this situation, okay, where there are ukrainians, there too, well , the territory remains with us, that is, this is an attempt to once again knock out the foundations from under russia, to somehow reduce the initial peaceful the demands that russia is making on us, to harm them on their side, to harm their infrastructure, to create a large number of internally displaced people, theirs. let

them, and by the way, they intuitively, the russians are running to the north, to the north of the kursk region, kursk, the city of orel, tula, and tula is already within reach, so to speak, of moscow, the moscow region already, and this is already true, these are not bad, bad talks, but a bad situation for moscow, the talks are once again bad for those who live in the moscow region, which war. already nearby, by the way, i will tell you the last thing, those russians who were not interrogated, your fellow journalists from various ukrainian and american publications talked to them, they tell them that we lived all the time, well, not with hope, but with such a dream that the war somewhere there, there , somewhere, somewhere, our boys went, and we don’t have it, and they are shocked, they are terrified, and as they say, they leave their places, well, cities with completely empty eyes, ivan, i

completely agree with you about the pokrovsky direction, about myrnograd, pokrovsk, toretska, we are all watching now all over ukraine, we are worried and understand that the occupiers do not stop pressing in this direction, but there is one more question on the account, in short, on the exchange rate operation, what should we expect during the new week. and the second question, do you expect in the coming weeks that the russians, and maybe months, that the russians will still try to conduct some kind of counteroperation with new forces, so look, great question, i understand, personally i expect, well, again, it's mine subjective opinion well, as of last week, i have formed for myself that i assume, i assume that... perhaps by the end of this

week, we, or rather, the ukrainian armed forces of ukraine, have the opportunity to capture, advance, let's say, in kursk oblast, well, as much as possible, and maybe by the end of the week, the russians will still be able to assemble, move, equip some of their military formations to stop the ukrainian advance, but judging by this , as of monday, i somehow see it slowly in they are happening, this impression that either... they still haven't come out of such a state of shock and can't gather their thoughts, efforts, or they have somehow come to terms with the fact that, well, okay, the ukrainians have occupied something there, but we dug in everything there along the perimeter, they won't go further and let it be so, at least now there are two such opinions, i think that over time we will understand what is more important to them, or just let it remain, or they will really try to gather some large group, by the way, they were already unconfirmed . data that the russians supposedly

gathered under 10,000 personnel for carrying out this counter-operation for the expulsion of ukrainians, but western analysts say: yes, judging by the way the ukrainians entered, the russians will most likely have to use about 20 of their own personnel to do something there, but here it is, speaking from the point of view of numbers , how many are realistically 20-30, and will they be able to gather such a number, in principle, if we talk about the movement of troops, then they can, but we, again, approaching the discussion. protection direction, we understand that they do not want to transfer a really large amount personnel not from the kharkiv direction, vovchansk, we see, the pressure there still continues, neither from the actual kupyan

direction, nor from siverskyi, nor from pokrovskyi, yes, that is, after all, they are, conditionally speaking, postponing this operation for later , as far as i understand, look, at first in the first days, messages came from the kharkiv region from our guys that it seemed to be a little easier to breathe, that there were fewer russians, they started taking something, they even mentioned the number, but then literally in a few days new information, they say and no guys nothing became easier, on the contrary, they began to press even more, and once again, these are not official statements from official representatives, that is, from the boy. who are there and they subjectively feel there either pressure or the lack of this pressure. now about gathering these people in general. well, come on, we must understand that the russian general staff is not full of idiots, there are not full of idiots sitting there, if there were full of idiots, then in march of the 22nd year, the war would

have ended with our victory. there, too, they realize that our ukraine is making this feint ears, these are jumps in order to distract the attention of the russian command. that's why, as i see it, they decided that they were taking away, it was called that, about a thousand personnel from each direction, they carefully pulled out where, as they say, there are too many, there are a lot of excess forces, plus in an emergency mode, they transfer to this the section of the front to kursk, and from kaliningrad, conscripts, from murmansk, leningrad , moscow, military districts, plus, what was noticed in the castle, these are the space forces, this is... the military and space forces of the russian federations that go in the infantry. pilots from olenia were spotted, or rather reported about them. flight mechanics, engineers who leave the airfields, they leave as assault infantry. and here again, citing western analysts, they say

that putin lacks approximately 15,000 personnel in order to successfully complete this operation to eliminate the ukrainians, without removing people from... the front, let's get back to the issues territory of ukraine, because in my opinion, this is probably the most important thing, now, we have already talked with you about the fact that unfortunately, there is a very strong pressure on our defense forces in the direction of pokrovsk, in the direction essentially from avdiivka, this pressure began at the beginning. large-scale, and unfortunately it continues, how do you estimate that we will have this week, at least in this most important direction of this pressure, and maybe in other directions we still have a rather heavy direction, it's time iv anyway, although

there is no such great promotion there, we have the direction of new york, which is to a greater extent, if we turn again. well, probably other directions, this is what we will have during the next seven days, and in general, what should we expect, will the russians still take, for example, toretsk or mirnograd or pokrovsk, how much time do they need for this, because i apologize, here ours even officials there is already a lot of talk about evacuation, ms. vereshchuk says, we see how local business is collapsing, in fact, in places, in these cities, we see how people are leaving, so what can we expect from these difficult directions

for our defenders, well, come on, i will very careful in these assumptions, i do not like to hang around there in any case, well, this is unacceptable, but if our authorities announce... 14 days for the evacuation of the city of pokrovsk, then we have such a figure that it will still hold for 14 days under the control of ukraine. then, perhaps, its gradual destruction by the russian armed forces will begin, as they did in soledariv, in bakhmut, in avdiivka, in marinka and hundreds of other cities and towns, villages of ukrainian forces in the east, in the north, in the south, all as they like, what they will do, i assume, i can't say the time frame, how much time they will need, because there are many parameters, including, well, including, first of all, from our armed forces, the second is security. russians with troops, equipment, people, now our military say yes, it is much worse than

it was in solidar 22-23, much worse, much more difficult, uh, they are pressing incredibly, they are pressing just once again, incredibly in the cube, a- ah, fabs, fabs is, well, most likely one of those key elements, besides infantry, the infantry of these assaults, with which they make a result, throw a density of 200-250 m. with these fabs and there is no salvation from them, that is , if a one and a half ton fab arrives, it is a hundred, two hundred meters and a contusion is guaranteed, if a three-ton fab, then in general even much less, a greater distance where you can get a concussion, so they will not choose such an indiscriminate weapons, imprecise, but due to the number they destroy cities, the biggest one is mine, well, not a fear, and once again you don’t need to be a great analyst, just open the map deep state, we do a little less. and we look at the donetsk region and we can see how the russians are trying to cut

the ukrainian defense of the donetsk region in half like a corporate knife into a conditional north, a conditional north, a conditional south, and then to put a military case behind it to destroy the enemy, because we are the enemy for them in pieces, divide it in half, and then finish it already, unfortunately, unfortunately, another topic about the axis of evil and about the partner of one... of putin's key partners, lukashenko, he once again threatens with nuclear weapons, lukashenko said a lot there, well in particular, he stated that by attacking kurshchyna, kyiv could actually provoke moscow to use nuclear weapons. let's listen and then discuss. such escalation on the part of ukraine is an attempt to push. russia for asymmetric actions, well , let's say, the use of nuclear weapons. i know,

for sure, that in ukraine they would be very happy if russia used, or we are there, tactical nuclear weapons, that would be happiness, then we would hardly have any allies left, none at all, not even those countries that sympathize b. so, mr. ivan, lukashenko is a lot spoke during the last few days, he gave there and... and to the propagandist russia-1 and his local mass media , different opinions were heard from him about the fact that the denazification of ukraine has already been practically completed there, and in particular, another scaremongering about nuclear weapons, how do you assess the fact that lukashenka was released, he is the same for months, then he is silent for months, then he was released again, it is clear that on the orders of the kremlin. in the information space? what does this indicate, mr. ivan? yes, look, well, it's mine personal opinion, but you have

to listen to this character in the original, because in the translation he is not very good, but when in the original, it’s just based on intonations, he really is, i’m sorry, but he’s like that, but he burns down the office, he gives out certain secrets , what is happening in one of the relations, the relations between refia and belarus, and yes, in general, he says a lot regularly to his local channels, he really came here... this film crew came to him, this man is such a propagandist skabievy, they are really two such a couple, two propagandists, this is a couple, what is lukashenka's interest in? first of all, he stated that he, as i see it, is cautiously pushing his comrade in dictatorship, dictator putin, to the fact that, well, listen, these nazis have not ended there, well, because ieds need to be ended already, probably, that is , he pushes so carefully... not a fact that it will work, but carefully we see such messages from him. now about nuclear weapons, i

actually heard, well, the opposite of what you said about nuclear weapons again, that personally, my inner, subjective feeling as of august 19. i see that he, dictator lukashenko and dictator putin are afraid to talk about nuclear weapons, they are afraid to use them, that is, once again it is possible to say this, but use the leg. what he says, i watched these videos of his in more detail, he says as follows: there, showing in ukraine, in poland, in the west, they sleep and dream that russia and belarus will use the nuclear. well, weapons, and then it is such a gift to them, simply incredible, but, he says, we are them we will not give this gift, even if they do not dream, that is, no one will give it to them again, it is about us, why, because if they use nuclear weapons, then they quite consciously and adequately realize that they

will no longer have allies, neither will china , nor conditional india, and maybe even north korea somewhere from. is falling on the horizon, but china is the most important ally, losing which they risk losing everything in such, such a short-term time perspective, so i think that now it is about nuclear blackmail, we are not talking about nuclear war at all, mr. ivan, we are sincerely grateful to you for taking the time to join the ether tv channel espresso, ivan stupak, military expert, former employee of the service. of security of ukraine was just on our airwaves, i remind you about the survey that we have today, we are asking you whether you hope that the authorities will ensure the transparency of the reconstruction of the ohmadit children's hospital, if so, take your phones or smartphones and call 0800

211381, if not then... 800-21382 all your calls are absolutely free. we have the next guest in the new week is georgy tuka, deputy minister for temporarily occupied territories in 2016-2019, ex-head of the luhansk military-civilian administration in 2015-2016, and founder and leader of the narodnyi volunteer group. til, mr. george, we are glad to welcome you to the espresso tv channel. i congratulate the studio, i congratulate our viewers. mr. georgy, well, of course, what will we talk about, including the kurdish operation, but mr. ivan stupak and i have just discussed certain military issues of the operation, certain tactical and

strategic things, i wanted to talk to you about the actual situation. in the territories controlled by ukraine in russia, in particular there, a military command post has been created there, major general eduard moskalyov has been appointed as its head, and according to the data and statements we have, the task is to maintain the viability of the local population, in general to ensure law and order , etc. those territories that are under control, and how do you think ukraine should act there, especially in the context of the fact that every day ukrainians, ukrainian defense forces are capturing

new and new settlements in the kursk region. well, i guess i want to start by addressing our boys, our heroes who are currently defending our country, my dears, please, now a bunch of different videos from the territory of the kurt region are being distributed by various sources, on which there are even fragments of something so strange brothers, my friends, i beg you very much, never, stress, never forget, you are in a hostile environment, and those people who are smiling at you now and thanking you for bringing them bread and water, the day after tomorrow they may bring you a jar of honey with explosives inside, like they used to was made by a 74-year-old grandfather in donetsk region, so

please save your life and don't lose it. as for the actions of the authorities, in principle, they are absolutely adequate, they correspond to ukraine's desire to comply with humanitarian requirements, the norms of international humanitarian law, that's about it in principle i approve, indeed it is the duty of the state that controls this or that territory to take care of the civilian population, at the same time i want to... say that i was, to put it mildly, surprised by the statement of mrs. varyshchyuk, they say it should be , let's say, there is an idea, uh, to open. green corridors for the evacuation of the civilian population of those territories currently under the control of the armed forces of ukraine to the territory of ukraine. i don't understand it, i don't

accept it, it doesn't meet any requirements of humanitarian international law, it's some kind of initiative that i don't understand at all. moreover, i know one hundred percent that the vast majority of residents. which region, well , i can't say 100%, but i have no doubt that more than 90 have a very negative attitude towards such an initiative of the vice-premier, and i consider it necessary to convey at least to the state leadership the point of view of the residents of sumy oblast, which borders exactly with the territory. kursk oblast, which is currently under the control of the armed forces of ukraine, that our citizens have a negative attitude to such

an initiative, because we should never forget that the same poor and unfortunate as they are there, the chickens, the chickens, which are now being fed and scared by our military, they recorded positive videos yesterday. appeal to the great vladimir vladimirovich, they told with tears in their eyes that they all support this damned svo, and even their sons, brothers, and neighbors there take part in killing ukrainians, and suddenly we begin to shed some tearful tears for their fate, i think it is completely inappropriate, i am not calling for the destruction of everyone. absolutely not, but you must always understand that these are our enemies, this is not a neutral population, it is not some kind of greedy people there, these are enemies

, especially since in reality we have to understand that the sumy region, it is perhaps the most affected by the russian invaders, and there is also an objective question, and are all our internally displaced persons provided for? are all the people affected by the war in ukraine provided with everything they need, apartments, houses, a humanitarian aid and so on and so on, well, we understand that the answer is unfortunately negative, but mr. george, absolutely yes, and i absolutely share and emotionally similar, a similar reaction of our citizens, and i consider it absolutely unacceptable to engage in open speculation. and i believe that such actions on the part of the authorities are purely political speculations in order to please some of our

western humanitarians in quotation marks with their demonstrative actions, at a time when the level of care of the authorities regarding our native population, to put it mildly, in relation to our citizens, well, if not quite zero, then somewhere close to zero. i recently recorded a video, i did not expect, i was asked for mariupol television, it turned out that the editor with whom i spoke was a twice-displaced person, he himself had to flee from donetsk, then he and his wife decided to settle in mariupol, and had to flee from mariupol again, and here we are right there for 40 minutes with him they discussed the topic exactly... the reaction of the authorities to this not unseen challenge, i agree with it, but that almost nothing is being done, and in parallel with the zero coefficient of useful

action in relation to its own citizens, to arrange some demonstrative shows to the enemy, well, i i consider it absolutely unacceptable and if not to say abominable. by the way, to add a bit of information, the journalists of the american edition of the washington post visited suja, controlled by ukraine, they write that the ukrainian military does not cause any harm to local residents, but instead distributes humanitarian aid. quote: the reporters did not see any evidence that the ukrainian military murdered or attacked civilians. a dozen russian civilians interviewed by the judge said they were treated well and knew of none. killed resident, well it is also in contrast to what the rashists are doing and did in buch, in irpen, in gostomel, to what they did. and what is being done

now in principle in all occupied territories, but it is clear that we must understand, so we observe humanitarian law, but we understand that these are the people who, this is the country that is killing our country today, our people, that killed, kills and will kill, let's also be frank here, mr. georgy, there is another question: he is trying to downplay this threat, at least if you look at their tv channels, on their telegram channels, perhaps more pro-government, on their mass media in general, the kremlin still tries to present this as a certain force majeure problem or a problem of a more humanitarian, extraordinary nature, but not as an occupation, well if it were logical, then they

should submit to... in your opinion, why is there such a reaction, why is there no announcement like we did, how did anyone expect mobilization, no announcement of any actions there, so to speak, well, what are we conditionally might expect why they are trying to minimize so much in the eyes of their society that the offensive of our country, the offensive of our armed forces on the kursk region, well, in principle, those who have not yet lost their ho... at least a little common sense, i mean the russians, and they are excellent understand what is happening, we are now talking about the russian government and, accordingly, russian propaganda, there really is a complete minimization, by the way, this kind of policy has already given rise to a wave, not just one, but a whole wave of various confrontations, in the so-called it

is called z environment, that is, these various z-players who have been arrested, starting with silovyov and kabeeva, and ending with, well , putin himself frankly, there are quite such, well, powerful disputes, to put it mildly, including, for example, what is happening in the kurschen, here putin said the situation, and... a considerable number of the so-called z military cows, as they call themselves, they are outraged and demand that the russian authorities act more decisively, call a spade a spade, the dispute continues, it revolves around the thesis introduced by the kremlin propagandists , i think ours the audience has already paid attention to this, they say

the second kurdistan b... the first kurdish battle there , it turned the course of the second world war, and now we will turn the same thing again on those fields, and if there are opponents, i emphasize, it is within this very despicable phenomenon under in the name of the environment, and those who started shouting, you are out of your mind, there is no kurdish battle, this is... an attack that was made there at the request of the cia, the fbi and nato, what are you spreading , this is generally a trifle, some worthless thing, and you compare it with a huge one battle of the second world war, so from the point of view of information, well, here i think, even no one has any doubts that the goal... has been achieved

, as for why, for example, you have already mentioned putin's position, it is indicative, by the way, there is the fact that if you recall how his political career began with the submarine disaster, the same thing happened, first silence, silence, silence, after four days, it seems, ugh. a modest report began, well, there is such a small conflict there, but everything is in order there, we are in contact with the crew, then for a month and a half there, he told that he was messing with the crew there, but it ended with him answering the question with a smile on his face: what happened to the kursk, she drowned, that's about it.