well, and about enemy logistics, if there is an opportunity and desire, we will talk with you a little later, to what extent is the aviation component from our side present now in the context of the kurdish operation? it is present there at all levels, starting from the level of uavs, in the fpv of drones, reconnaissance drones that fly, this same bridge, it was not just dumbed down, there you can see four such perforations, such holes are very neat, it is most likely hammers , i.e.... haimarcy, and this last one was most likely inflicted by a rocket, hamer, french a missile, or maybe, maybe, i think, most likely it was a humber, well, according to the damage, according to the degree of damage, maybe 250 kg, maybe a ton, it is generally such, you know, such a weapon that appeared as a result of the fact that the military yes, when the cold war ended. they look

at their warehouses like this, a bunch of bombs, inaccurate, who needs them, a bunch of guided missiles that are there for airplanes, what to do with it, so they started to think about it and came up with, this is jidam, this is hamer, this is ompk in russian, it's still a family, when they took an inaccurate weapon, a bomb or a missile, and they installed a guidance system there, a system that allows... him to gain some speed there, either with the help of an airplane, or as in the hamer, this is an additional engine, and it is quite accurate to hit the targets, and the accuracy of these means became there 3 , 5, 10 m. and with regard to the same missiles there , the same ones were attached to the hydra missiles, the racket is so small, unguided 70 mm in diameter, but they were attached to it and it became such a very accurate missile with laser guidance, which.. .

in which we work very well, and what concerns the application of aviation, yes starting with drones, in the f16th, as far as i know, they don’t fly there, but the bellows are working very seriously there, the su-27 is working very seriously, our rotorcraft are working, and there is a full military operation there, all kinds of troops are involved, and all possibilities are engaged, and our anti-aircraft defense is there and... we shoot down k-52 helicopters and manpads, and we shoot down su-34s with the help of them, well, most likely it was the patriot, that is, everything works there full height, mr. konstantin, well, i don’t know, half joking, i would still like to have some in your opinion, ukrainian aviation or russian aviation still operates more over the kursk region? because sometimes, when you look

at the scale of the destruction, where exactly they drop their guided, unguided, or semi-guided bombs and ammunition, well, this is genocide against their own people, in fact, you understand, they are also a country of slaves, yes, here, if something happens there in the central district, the western districts somehow sympathize, somehow worry about it, we are there for each other, here we can there... we can argue about something, we can have something, but we are ukrainians, we are united by this, yes, and this was shown there by 22- 2402/22, yes, this was shown very significantly, and they are slaves, and something is happening there in the kursk region, in in bryansk, in bilhorodsk they are already spitting there, i assure you that in the oryol or tula regions they don't care about all this, they wanted to sneeze on it, and they have their own... population,

the population of slaves, why do they need it, they like this there they are somehow changing their gene pool, let's say so, and i'm not surprised, then i had this at first, or they will supply a new one the border and will not pay attention to the fact that there they are hiding and isolating the population, isolating all means of information transmission, sending their people there, children to retirement homes, or to the crimea, or to zaporizhzhia, so that this information does not differ about what was really there. or they will climb like fools, and now i come to the conclusion that most likely they will climb there like fools, they will destroy with this system of fire shaft, with these kabs, resets, with these assaults, if they have someone to storm, if there is lives meat, if they have enough, although, judging there, well, from the number of personnel, then, well , they have such opportunities, but there, well...

the troops there are not prepared, well, it is difficult to say, i am not a great military expert, i i understand something, but i understand more about issues related to the air, so it is very difficult now... to say what will happen there in the future, mr. konstantin, let's talk about the air and about those areas, let's say so, the land, without which airplanes cannot get into the air rise, a few words about russian airfields, voronezh region, baltimore and borysoglebsk, these very objects were attacked this week by the defense forces of ukraine, there are other hits, other exercises, in particular. along savasleyka, this is a godforsaken village, if we are talking about the people who live there, about some conveniences for them, but an extremely important military military facility for the russians, where planes are taking off that are firing at us, and we see that these attacks

are getting more accurate, these attacks are very specific, and we're not talking about hitting once every few weeks, we're talking about... sometimes multiple hits actually per day, what could this mean, is russia's air defense coverage deteriorating, and is our toolkit improving to hit these targets? you listed everything, you just answered at once, so what is the story here, we have three main tasks, and this is the destruction of the russian pppo so that we do not interfere with what we do in the air... they will create what we need to do, this is the first task , the second task, purely economic, is the destruction of the russian oil and gas complex, it is strikes on refineries, on oil depots, the cutting of these logistics fuel arteries, and the third very

important task, which is related precisely to the problem of the cabs, to the problem of missile attacks, is the destruction of aircraft at airfields, this is the most effective means to solve these problems, and... we have such a very interesting situation, you took only this week, and i took another starting from july 20, we had attacks there, almost every day or every night some airfield, they started there with millerovo, then there was morozovsk, they destroyed the fuel depot there, then they flew there hit tamilin near moscow, there were two rotorcraft destroyed, then there... korzhi, saratov province, then there was a simultaneous destruction of four, or rather, three strategic three bases of the russian strategic aviation, this is olenya, this is diaghiliva, this is engels-2, which is exactly

where the tu-95 ems aircraft take off, which carry hasto the first ones that were there on december 29 last year, we... for the new year threw almost 100 pieces there, yes, and the eyes were impressed at the same time, and olenya, it is 1800 km, yes, if we remember, there before that we impressed the means there ppo, voronezh, voronezh ddm, two vorskaya stations, one in armovil, this is also very large range, and i will tell you that we have now, well , about 300 companies that are doing what they... produce mainly private companies there that produce everything for short- range drones, and somewhere around 100 companies that are very strongly developing, and there are several innovative platforms, there are several hubs that are allowed to live accelerators that

allow it to be done quickly, and we see these results, if we say there when zelensky said that we want to have a million drones there next year, then all.. .they said that it's nonsense, it's impossible, c there are probably three of us already, and only half of the year has passed, yes, that is, it is developing very significantly, and if we look at the impressions of these airfields, it is very difficult to say what happened in the belt sea there, because there is no confirmation yet , but this is an airfield, which is the 47th aviation bomb bomber regiment, there are mainly 134. 134, which carry these cabs, so to speak, were located, and there, the main problem is that the drones do not fly very fast, and they russians manage to get up during this time, but we impress, impress

the equipment of the operational part, we are impressed by the fuel, fuel and bridging materials warehouses, etc., we are impressed by this airfield structure. and creates difficulties for him, but there is such an interesting story about this savasliyka, the name is so wonderful, and it is phonetically so. neatly, i would say so, so russia has the main aviation hub, it’s zhukovsky, all the research work is carried out there, tests are carried out there, it’s a crazy hub, all the kbs were there except for antonov, and when the plane, the engine has already reached its there is some level when it has already been adopted, it is being transferred to lipetsk-2, where it is already... the ministry of defense is running it in, training people, and there in lipetsk 2 is an airfield, and by the way, by the way, we hit lipetsk-2 there too warehouses, there

was a lot of pathos, there were 400 air bombs and everything else that had been accumulated there for 100 years at this airfield, and there is the fourth training center for these pilots, it is also called that very seriously there somehow, and its branch is a savasliika, but it focuses purely on mig-31, mig-31 interceptors. bm and otsi carriers 31k daggers could be used, and it is interesting that we have such a curious thing for the first time, there were 10 blows, this is what the locals say, and if you analyze the whole attack in this way, then it began at night, and there is a video when it was specifically at night, and then i was already trying to reach the light, when the furies came flying. and so he looked exactly there with the help of machine vision, he recognized

the image of exactly the plane he needed, took aim and struck, and it is very visible, very well visible, how it flies up, almost stops and enters a pike and strikes, but there it is not closed very clearly visible, but i think that there were impressions, 1, 2, 3, 4, it doesn't matter, because the main thing is that it all creates... big problems for the pilots, for the technical staff, for everyone else, and note that this was on the 14th number, today we know what number, and we have all the air attacks that were previously associated with the takeoff of the mig-31k, and the whole country, the whole country, stopped, blocking the lift, now we are waiting for implementation. unfortunately, there is a ballistic threat from the enemy, but the migs really do not take off, no, you understand, this is the result

if we still drive these complexes away, and what will happen drive them away, it is best to drive away the v16s with jasom missiles that hit at 90, 900 km, then there will be no such worries. mr. kostyantyn, thank you for always meaningful thorough analysis, kostyantyn kryvolap, analyst, aviation expert joined the saturday political club program: until august 24, espresso is preparing a special project light people in dark times, interesting stories about heroic people, an interview with viktor yushchenko , by sviatoslav shevchuk, serhii plokhi and the documentary film 10 years of war, on independence day at espresso. from 8 am to midnight, don't miss our marathon. now a short pause and we will continue. there is a war going on, and not only for territories, it is also a war for minds. we are engaged in propaganda.

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political club at espresso, my name is khrystyna yatskiv, very soon you will have a conversation with vitaly portnikov about the most important events of this week, and while we have the opportunity to talk with respected experts, i am glad to welcome oleksandr khara to the studio. diplomat, expert of the center of defense strategies on issues of foreign and security policy, mr. oleksandra, glad to see and hear, glory to ukraine, mutual, nice to see you, mr. krystyna, glory to the heroes, let's definitely start, and it will be absolutely logical, with the reaction of the world. on the events in the kursk region, the united states is very careful in its rhetorical figures when talking about its awareness of what happened, how it was prepared and so on, but, but, joseph biden, the american president, answering questions from journalists the other day, said, what the operation of ukraine in the kursk region created

a real dilemma for the president of russia vladimir putin, how would you decipher... whether this is joseph biden's understanding of the situation, and whether this dilemma really exists for putin, because in fact, given the peculiarities of the russian constitution, for them that kherson and the kurdish region are one and the same, that is, in essence , the russians have long been in a situation where ukraine occupied their territories, i take all this in quotation marks now, well, i would say take it under control, because we are not going to. we are not by the russians, we do not claim russian territories, we are not going to annex them, so it is not an invasion, it is not an occupation, i would say taking control, when such a term as creating dilemmas is used, then of course it is from international relations and from theory conflict, it means that someone has several choices, at least two, which are not

very good, and it is necessary to choose with the least losses, and... what mr. biden meant, we don't know, but we can see what our dilemmas are , our control over part of russian territories created. the first is that in order to protect his territory, putin needs forces and means, and he has the option of pulling them away from the eastern direction, where, unfortunately, the russians are slowly advancing, they have certain tactical successes there, and we we do not see that they are in a hurry to accept. to transfer forces and means from there, something happened, but not to the extent that we would like, of course, that they are now trying to scramble and recruit, that is, from other regions of the russian federation, they immediately throw into battle, in fact, there was information that even conscripts are being used, i.e. everything that is

at hand of a free person, and they are doing and throwing at us, it is very interesting, by the way, that many experts in the... west and mass media said about that , that the russians are preparing something big, that is, an expansion of the invasion and some big operation, that is why they have accumulated large reserves, we did not see these reserves, that is, it turned out to be an informational psychological operation against us and against our western partners, it is a military, political moment, if he lacks men, despite an army of a million, then he will need to do something about mobilization. is it necessary to announce general mobilization, if general, it means, on the one hand, a blow to prestige, a blow to political support from the russian populace, because it is not just the marginals of ethnic minorities

who are going to fight, but it will have to be taken from st. petersburg from moscow. and of course that social tension will increase, then there is the question of what, literally, the head of the central bank seems to have said the week before last of the russian federation talked about the state of the russian economy, there was quite a, you know, black picture here, not as black as we would like, that they are on the brink of disaster, but still, and one of the key points, one of the key points, is there was a lack of labor...power, that is, in order to now equip someone and throw it and fight against us, then it will be necessary to take from the factories, whether it is the defense industry factories, whether it is the civilian factories, that is, the industry, but this will mean an even greater burden on the russian economy, which is not in the best shape, despite bravura statements that gdp growth there is faster

than in germany or some other countries, so these are dilemmas, and of course the territorial one, which you said is now a formula, let's record the situation or realities on the ground, it will certainly not be used by the russian federation, since it will mean the loss of legitimate, legal, as we also recognize, the territory of the russian federation, so they will look for some, some other forms, and of course, that there is political success in our operation, i do not know how the military will end component, but the first and most important thing: we broke this stereotype, the false stereotype that we, this war is in a corner, that is , we showed that we are able to take, accumulate forces, and... carry out this military operation on the territory of russia quite professionally and beautifully federation, and in fact we did it with one hand behind our back, which

is held by the same united states, because we do not have, well, let's say this, the good to attract all kinds of weapons, in particular from the united states, precisely in this course operation, for we are talking about sovereign russian territory. and some countries, some countries are already moving away from this so-called red line, in germany they say that from the moment german tanks arrived in ukraine, they became actually ukrainian tanks, let them use them as they want, canada gave the go-ahead for the use of its weapons, the weapons that were manufactured there, on the territory of the kurdish region, and joseph biden and his administration, so far everyone is also inclined to a similar decision and a similar permission for ukraine, in particular, the bipartisan delegation the delegation of the united states, which

visited the ukrainian capital this week. so do you really think we're getting to a point where there will be no taboos and no reservations from the united states about the use of weapons? of course, i'd like to hope so, because it's ridiculous. restrictions, this is, firstly, secondly, well, in fact , these two years have shown the failure of this administration's strategy in relation to russia and ukraine, and there is, well, you know, this is the case for sure after a certain time, we will find out whether the americans knew or developed together with them this operation, i have doubts about it, although the adviser of the president's office podalyak said that the americans were aware, to confirm his words... perhaps it can be cited that bucin and the ukrainians destroyed several bridges in the kurt region using american missiles, if it

is so, it means whether they are aware, whether they were forced to help ukraine to destroy strategically important bridges on the territory of the russian federation, if the americans did not know, it was a surprise for them, well, as a surprise, surely their intelligence understood that forces and means are accumulating. of ukraine on the border with the russian federation, we are planning something there, but they probably did not know the essence of what was going to happen, and of course they should not have shown themselves to be not in control of the situation, which is precisely why they actually supported our actions on the in the kursk direction, no matter what, this administration is already completing its work, and it is possible if there was an agreement with the americans about our actions and if we were given permission. to walk on the kurdish bridges, it means that more and more are being taken into their own hands managing, at least the strategy in relation to russia and ukraine, the team of camila harris, there is

such a phil gordon, a person who is very familiar with european affairs, maybe he wants to show before the election day that kadmila harris is capable of not just continuing the same strategy, well how i said, it is already a failure, absolutely obvious. and to do something else, and of course, there is also pressure, including due to the elections in the united states, you just showed lynsey graham, one of the leading republicans, who said, well, it is necessary to kick the ass of the russians, that they will increase the pressure on the administration, so that there are no senseless restrictions, so that ukraine is provided with more weapons, well, by the way, until today, only about 20% of the amount that was allocated. in the congress for security assistance to ukraine was used, and in fact all this at the end of september, in fact

, the authorization to use this money ends, that is , how about the fiscal year, and then it will be necessary to take certain additional bureaucratic measures in order to unlock this assistance, so far we don't see that the americans are in a hurry, or rather this administration, and the republicans usually use it as pressure. on this administration and criticism, so i hope that they will change, that they will realize their mistakes, that they will change their approach, at least before the elections, and then, of course, with the new administration, we will see how to form a strategy for the victory of ukraine, by the way , which was also a condition for voting for a large aid package of 61 billion, the administration had to provide a strategy for the victory of ukraine and where the goals of the united states regarding ukraine are highlighted. russia, mr. oleksandr, i don't know if you have been following, but interesting theses were heard in donald trump's interview with ivan musk. wow,

yeah, i'm... really, i'm a little bit in disbelief that i'm saying this, that we're even following this, but that's how it happened, and one of the most interesting points is that donald trump said he told putin not to invade ukraine, as you generally assess, this is the image move of the former american president and presidential candidate again from the republican party, to go to this interview and, in principle, speak there quite vividly. extraordinary as always things? well, first of all , there was a comment by john boldon, who was president trump's national security adviser, he said that there was no such conversation when he was the head of the department, and he does not know from other sources that trump once said something like that to putin, so rather all this, you know, like we have gpt chat, this artificial intelligence that sometimes. appreciates

and gives very strange answers to the person, i think it was just, let's say, in the style of trump, he lives in this fantasy that the palm of musk and his platforms, this is also an interesting separate topic, because by and large, this man bought twitter, a hugely popular western platform, not to make money, but actually to promote an agenda, political and in particular donald's coming to power . trump or well , it was not known before whether donald trump would withstand the pressure, maybe it was a landing, there are still a few of the same nikili, that is, in principle , he has a hidden hidden agenda, he, together with peter thiel, another famous billionaire and technology leader, they promote their rather specific, let's

say, their specific ideas. we need people like trump and vance who will implement, because they understand that they themselves are not capable of coming to the white house, that there was this stream of consciousness from both sides, where there is no criticality, you know, well, you are a professional journalist, you you understand that no person, if he does not have an education, if he does not understand how journalism works, can conduct a high-quality interview, because, for example, there will be no fact-checking, that is, fact-checking . fiction, whether it is a lie or whether it is true, further this is conducting the interview itself, i.e. asking questions, then it is manners, because of course there is, for example, hard talk, with the one with the saker, where he asks rather uncomfortable questions to his interlocutors in order to reveal the interlocutor, and what was between trump and so musk, it was such, you know, a very childish, childish question, and...

musk's praise of trump, that's definitely not journalism, that 's propaganda. why does trump say that? i think the answer is that he took to his team of pr and strategists those who were with him since the 16th year. and actually the key, key thesis of these people, let trump be himself. as a matter of fact, the stream of consciousness flows through these eyes, and it entices, and it attracts to itself those people who, well, that is, there is a demand for something similar, that is why trump offers. thank you, thank you, mr. oleksandr, for joining the saturday political club, oleksandr khara, diplomat, expert of the defense strategies center on foreign and security policy issues. well, now ihor simivolos, director of the middle eastern studies center, is in touch with the studio. mr. igor, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. congratulations, congratulations to you, your viewers, glory to the heroes. huh, in a few weeks the world

is under observation. waiting for iran's so-called response to what happened in tehran a few weeks ago, namely the elimination of hamas leaders, and these are really very vivid events that have certain consequences, but only iran has so far refrained from strikes from israel, what is this now is iran's measured approach to the situation? well, i think the key, key situation that 's affecting tehran's behavior right now is the negotiations that are going on to end war in gaza, and i think that iran is giving a chance, of course, not in vain, giving a chance for these negotiations to take place, they understand perfectly, at least a large part of the new

presidential team. in tehran, they understand that...