and sow it among those people on whom our existence in ukraine depends, because our future depends on the average taxpayer in poland, germany, france, america, canada, any country that helps us, and it is not only about weapons for the army, here we are also talking about simply maintaining, well, at least some kind of humanitarian stability in our country, social stability. further, and every time we expose these scandals, i think, my god, this is the dilemma of journalists now, to talk to talk about it publicly, and on the other hand, to give another argument to russian propaganda, on the other hand, we simply do not have the right not to talk about it either, and one way or another, we, journalists, always find ourselves guilty in this situation, we speak, then we do not say bad things , even worse, to be honest, andrii. i don't know how you

face this dilemma in your field of activity, but sometimes it's difficult for me, i sometimes wonder if it's worth talking about it now, when we definitely have other topics, so we can talk with you now, sorry for the situation on kurshchina not in the military sense, in the way it affects the russians, the world, us, and so on, but no, we are talking about hale, ohmadi and the soldier, conditionally... also speaking about kyrylenka, who is quite likely i think that the court will have its say, somehow he got quite rich during his leadership of the donetsk region. in short, how do you deal with this dilemma? well, this is really a dilemma, because here, on the one hand, we have to understand, well, we won't say about it, well, there are people.

which today depends on, including and the defense capability of ukraine, including the viability of the country, the viability of everyone, every person, well, let's assume that someone will not say, someone will not receive their cartridge, someone will not receive their treatment in akhmatdytit, and not just someone, but 1, 2, 3, 5, for some it is a statistic, but in reality it is the life of people, it is... the life of children, young people and adults, if we talk about other things, and if we do not talk about corruption, then someone will not build something, someone won't do something, help for someone is unreliable, our defender is conditional, it's purely conditional theoretically, does not receive clothes, does not receive something there, some provision, someone will not receive a military pension. and somewhere, for example, they will not

protect some object, and this is also, i apologize, people's lives, that is, there is really a dilemma here, we understand that for the internal situation in our country, for the internal security of our country, financial security, of course, that it would be absolutely wrong to talk about the silence of such facts, if we are talking about communicating with citizens from the point of view of... i was talking about the disappointment of citizens, here it also arises, well, the citizens will not know, but then again, the citizens will not receive any service or any protection in such a case, there is also a dilemma here, and thirdly, what khrystyna said just now is also true, of course in this , it consists in the fact that russian propaganda takes every such case and does not... everything else pays off in

foreign media, pays off foreign bloggers, and what’s more, let’s not go too far, pays off our so-called ukrainian bloggers who have flowed abroad, which now they are insulting, apologizing to ukraine everywhere, they are telling how bad it is here, what, how it is there, well, in general, there is authoritarianism, totalitarianism, everything, everything is bad, here we escaped from ukraine, there, crossed the border, gave someone a bribe, and this that. well, unfortunately, there is reality. i think that here we need to talk about some combination of the fact that the state should effectively, at least try to effectively fight corruption, corrupt people, minimize these things, and on the other hand, we should also demonstrate our positive cases in the international arena. when we talk about information war, when we talk about the fact

that we have to represent ukraine to the world, that we have to convey our point of view in any country of the world, here too we have to invest in it, russian. propaganda, it will always be, it will be, even if it is not there, they will make it up, they will make it up, they will write about it, they will lie about it, it will still be there, we need to show our opinion, our country, our positive things , we should have positive, including some solutions, positive cases, positive directions that we we will demonstrate for our... international partners, for citizens of other countries, for example, a positive case may be a business in ukraine, a business in ukraine which, despite the fact that there is a war in the country, works like clockwork today, go to any - which region of our country, even to the frontline, go to kharkiv, go, even to zaporizhzhia,

i am silent, go to the center, the west of our country, we have business cases of how people develop, how people provide services, how people... are relocating their production, and that too i see it, including when i travel around ukraine, how production is being relocated from one region to another region, and these are positive things, this is something that most likely other states would not be able to do so effectively. in which, which are quite bureaucratized, our people were able to do it and it is positive. things, that's what we have to show, what we have to talk about, we, we even, but listen, i 'm not even afraid to say it, we also have to, if we need to pay some publication, show it, it's okay, show , here is ukraine, this is how it is, here are our

people, here is our business, this is just one small example, one small example, and it should also be, but finalizing these... finalizing this topic, i believe that to silence corruption from the local level to even a high level, well, it’s still not worth it, because if we do it, relatively speaking, after the end of the war or victory, well, everyone may have a different concept, and we will simply find ourselves in the same closed the circle we were in. decades after the restoration of independence, when corruption, corruption, corruption, corruption, if we don't break this vicious circle now, when we have the opportunity to do it, and there is help from international partners, there is the will of the people to do it, then we will never do it,

i'm sorry, but it's true, absolutely agree , and another such very important moment, the psycho-emotional state of ukrainian society. now incredibly sensitive, this is due to almost three years of stress from a large-scale invasion, this is due to the fact that in our society , life looks very, very contrasting, so for for someone, war is a daily story, for someone, someone may not see it. we eat with our eyes, but feel, as they say, with our spinal cord, someone blocks it in his mind and tries to deceive himself and tries not to see it, but this psycho-emotional state, which ukrainian society is in, he is

now very sensitive, and all these drops are treason , drops of her scandals about corruption, they only... feed inside people, you know, a thesis from the evil one, why should i do something if something like this is happening up there on the mountain it's a mess, if they allow themselves to steal there on the mountain, what i have to donate is the last, or the penultimate, but from my own pocket, and this is a very dangerous story in the situation, when i remind you, we still have an internal to... donation is very important for ukrainian army, and we are still dependent on donations from ordinary people, even the smallest donations from ordinary people, when we talk about walkers, we are talking about cars, we are talking about drones, we are talking about

many, many other useful, really useful staff for our military, which not is provided exclusively by the support of our partners and is not yet provided from the budget. well, here, i think, we have a separate topic for conversation, for somewhere in our next program, and whether we have done enough at the management level in the country to ensure that the military receives the maximum. khrystyna, i have to interrupt you, because i want to remind you about our survey, whether you hope that the authorities will ensure transparency in the reconstruction of ohmadite, take your phones or smartphones, absolutely free, call 0800 211381, if so, 0800 211 382, if not, i remind you once again that all calls are completely free of charge and in about 15 minutes you and i will receive

the results, well, well, and probably here andriy should move on to our next topic, i 'm sorry, i can't hold back, then just taking bread from you, in a word, since in the new week we are talking not only about what is happening here and now, but also about what awaits us, most likely this week, we cannot but talk about work of the verkhovna rada and about how we both after all, almost one of the first decisions, which must be adopted. and i would like to remind you that in the near future we expect a decisive word regarding, this is still the case, but this name is applied to the draft law, but it is already generic. prohibition of the russian orthodox church. in essence, we are talking about draft law 8371, on the prohibition of the activities of religious organizations, the management center of which is located. in the country of the aggressors, well, the committee of the verkhovna rada these days on issues of humanitarian and information policy

unanimously approved the amendments to this bill, in the second, in the second reading and in general, we are waiting for the vote, it is interesting and the fact that the council of churches has said its word on this matter, and the all-ukrainian council of church-religious organizations is supportive. there is a legislative initiative to ban the activities of religious organizations associated with the russian orthodox church in ukraine. this is stated in an official statement. i will cite partnership relations and freedom of religion and their protection by the state is the basis of state-confessional relations in ukraine, and no organization, whether religious or secular, which has its center in ukraine, has carried out military aggression against our people and is led by the aggressor state. cannot operate in ukraine. we support the legislative initiative of the president of ukraine to disable

the activities of such organizations in our country, which also has broad political and public support. the application is in progress. well, all eyes are on the verkhovna rada these days, andrii, this is exactly your topic, i tracked, researched, had many different conversations with people's deputies, the expert environment that... worked on this decision, please tell me, in your opinion, the nearest one day we will get out of the closed circle of the presence of russian agents in the religious and social life of our country, is this bill not a solution and not a panacea? well, really, a new week, it should finally mark that decision, which is no longer the one that is overdue, that is overdue. already many years ago, in my opinion, and speaking from a legal

point of view, it was possible to vote last year, at least in 2023, and here we are really approaching this bill, i say this again, the government bill that was revised by people's deputies, which is in my opinion, a compromise, that is, which does not prohibit the russian orthodox church. the church in ukraine is temporarily, well, conditionally speaking, prohibited by the russian orthodox church, but it is clear that there is a transition period, there are nine months, but an hour ago we spoke with mrs. irena, people's deputy, gerashchenko, people's deputy, and i once again clarified with her , am i right, or did i read it all correctly, there really is this transition period of nine months, moreover, we must understand that... this draft law, this law, if it becomes a law, is not prohibited there, but there

the right to ban these subjects is given to the relevant court or commission dealing with this issue, that is, you and i must understand that this will not be a quick process, it will be a legal process that will allow the ukrainian state to help rid us of ... finally russian orthodox. the presence of the church or its followers, its parts there in ukraine, but again, this also requires political will, the political will not to negotiate with such environments, not to try to make this church there controlled by someone, political

the will to really liquidate or cancel the legal one. registration of those subjects, of which, by the way, there may be thousands in ukraine, if we are talking about specific districts there, so to speak, as they are, as they call them, and, in fact, it can be everyone, every parish, it can be a separate legal entity, or rather it cannot be, it is so, you can just look even in the open data bot there or in any registry, please, and it will be a process, but... the main message of this law or bill, which i hope will become a law, consists in giving an impetus to society, again from below, to move, to create their own independent, so to speak, subjects, i hope, who will enter

the orthodox church of ukraine, in order to finally move. the process from a dead point, by the way, if we are talking about the process, this process had two such ascending ones: the first is when the tomos was received, when this happened, the cathedral and on december 15, 18th year, then we received the tomos, there on basically december, january, february, 18-19 years, there passed and came passed about 500... parishes and the second, the second such ascending line, growing, this is when the full-scale invasion began, there we were talking about tens and hundreds of transitions every month, but as of today this process is inhibited, as of today, if again well, go to the resources and see, as of today, 10,

12, 15, sometimes 20 are transferred per month, and that’s it, but there are regions where practically no one has transferred, so if there is khmelnytskyi oblast, kyiv oblast, zhytomyr oblast, etc. a number of areas, partly in vinnytsia, this process still takes place there, but in many regions this process does not take place, and this draft law also needs to facilitate the legal procedure of moving from one parish, from one place to another. place, there are also problematic legal nuances there, when there is sabotage somewhere in the places, somewhere, excuse me, the russian church hires all kinds of aunties there to protect its object, so to speak, that is, if there is the political will of the state, the political will of the bodies authorities, it is

certain that this process will move, but this process needs to be given... including a legal basis, perhaps this legal basis will not be completely perfect, yes, indeed, if the bill that was submitted by a group of people's deputies were to be adopted, there, if i am not mistaken, the bill of many factions , which knyazhytsky was developing, in this case, yes, there were more, more powerful norms, here in this case there is a compromise option, which... really, maybe acceptable in order for him at least they voted for that one bill, they don't want to vote, well, it's on the conscience of these people, that's why we have what we have, but i say once again, let's not entertain ourselves with illusions that if tomorrow, tomorrow should take place, as far as i understand, the meeting of the verkhovna rada, that tomorrow is russian the church

will be forbidden, everything there will be closed, crowded, everyone has left, nothing like that will happen, we are in the ukrainian state in general. on many issues, especially on ideological issues, especially on issues of unification of society, on issues that concern such strategic dimensions, we must to prepare for the marathon, for the marathon of further struggle, because russian influences, unfortunately, russian narratives, views, they are still... still strong, they are still present, and russia exists, russia exists, will invest everything, will do everything , in order to stop any process, the main thing, the most important thing: that this process be led by the state, led by the government, not hindered by the state, so that the government does not indulge in illusions that it is possible with someone inside

the country, with some forces, even if they are vaguely pro-russian there to agree, that's it the main thing is, if we all understand this from the first to the last, then we will win, we will win ideologically, we will win in the rear, because we have that in the rear. there is a hybrid war going on, and this, this is what we are talking about, about the russian church, about this bill, what we say very often on our airwaves in the new week, this is russia's hybrid war, which is also ongoing in kyiv, and in uzhgorod, and in lutsk, and in odesa, and in kharkiv, and the dnipro, we must, as they say, call a spade a spade, i'm smiling so much, andriy. because as far as i understood from what i read, i carefully studied everything that was proposed

by the lawmakers and everything that they plan to vote on in the near future, that is, actually, without a ukrainian court, in case, uh, we need to ban some religious organization, and we will understand what is there, and it will last forever. then we will have to turn to the ukrainian court, frankly speaking, with all due respect, because we are, after all, in a democratic legal state, we must respect the court, ukrainian judges, one of the branches of government, on the other hand, we cannot to ignore the shortcomings with which this system is still endowed, and when we talk about... the work of average ukrainian judges, it is not always about justice, it is not always about, well, let's say, the competitiveness of the process, here,

by the way, it is always a question of the prosecutor's office and the bar, and the balance of these two extremes must be embodied by a court decision, this is also very important, so is our judicial and law enforcement system ready to be tested by this draft law... which has recently been called the draft law on the protection of constitutional law in the field of activity religious organizations. i would leave this question for now and call it rhetorical, because just as much as we talked about the prospects and possibilities of banning the russian church in our country, we talked just as much, if not more, about the need to reform the judicial system in our country, which did you think some ukrainian judges are really fascinating with their intransigence with the truth, some ukrainian judges left

their jobs and went to the front, some of them died, and we can't say what's going on here everything is quite bad, a large number of these people are really virtuous, but we can't do the same... and avoid a situation in which a ukrainian judge, who is not characterized by virtue, will be forced to pass a sentence, let's say, say his word about the possibility of a ban or non-prohibition of any religious organization, and what to do if this judge himself is a parishioner of the moscow patriarchate, i thought about it, andrei, well, this, i say once again, is a big and big... work for society, for people's deputies as well, and for the authorities, too we have a lot of work ahead of us.

christina, thank you, thank you, because unfortunately we have to finish, first of all, let's talk about our survey, we asked today if you hope that the authorities will ensure transparency in the reconstruction of ahmadiyya, yes, 9% think no, 90. one, well, we have what we have, and i also want to remind you about the announcement: august 24 is ukraine's independence day, espresso is preparing a special project bright people in dark times, these are interesting stories about those people who create our country, who create history, this interview with viktor yushchenko and svyatoslav shevchuk, serhii plokhi, other people, documentary film 10 years of war, on the day of independence, once again. i will say on espresso from 8:00 a.m. to midnight, turn on our tv channel. christina, thank you once again, thank you to all viewers, thank you for watching, writing,

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14th in ukraine. the news editorial office is ready to tell about the most important thing for this hour. thank you for being with us and news for your attention. historic voting. in the verkhovna rada, they pointed out the exit of the russian church. the parliament adopted a fully revised draft law on banning religious organizations in ukraine related to the russian federation. 265 people's elected representatives voted for it, people's deputy yaroslav zhelezniak said. the law enters into force 30 days after its promulgation. uocp communities will have nine months to...