themselves did not have the right and opportunity to play geoposition, because this is our land, our people and our difficulties, because before us there is really a very large nuclear aggressor who wants to destroy us completely, that is , genocide here is a process, a phenomenon and a state , this is a very complex process, which also needs to be publicly declared, so this... process affects not only ukraine or us, it is aimed at destroying the world, and therefore, when any countries, when they accept putin as the author of this regime, which for more than 25 years, they practically extrapolate this genocide on themselves, and therefore exactly what you are asking, they will now use, they will try to create even more psychosis. they do it and do it, unfortunately,

quite successfully, because you and i can see, for a lot of money, but still the mobilizers, the mobilized go, they are chased, but they still go, and very often there are those who go voluntarily , thanks to precisely this cognitive-mental offensive, which is measured in putin's russian federations by millions of hours. not times, but millions, why? because we are with you we know how exactly content and the creation of communication situations works as a technology of a global format. mr. grigoriy, now we see videos showing russian prisoners during the offensive of the armed forces in the kursk region. 15-2 russian prisoners were captured there, well, within that area, and we ... see the calm attitude

of the ukrainian military to the russian military, although, when we look at how the exchanges are carried out, then our military, to the russian military, when our military returns from captivity after torture, here we see an example, and the russian military from our captivity return as, well, stupid, and some of them return to the battlefield again, in your opinion, to deal with these dissonances, and especially our military, who are our military, who are now are taking prisoners of the russian military, what to do with this paradigm? this is really a very difficult test of our humanity, our people, that is why it is very difficult for them, in their eyes , in front of them, their brothers, fathers, mothers have been lost in... our beaten, our tortured,

therefore, in this situation, it is precisely the topic of re- popularizing this humanity on our part, it needs to be scaled up, there is very little of it, especially now there is a moment when it is necessary to talk especially with the non-contract workers whom we captured, namely the conscripts, because these conscripts, who went to defend their... homeland from the aggressor, here they are made precisely so that they attack the victim of the aggression of their powerful regime, and these aspects of the complexities, by the way, are not understood abroad either, and we have to explain it , and here about what you said, physiological torture, this is just talking about genocide, it is just saying that putinism must

be stopped not only by a military initiative, a smart military initiative of ukraine, but also by the initiatives of our partners in the supply of weapons and opportunities adequately to answer this, let's talk about the impunity of putinism, because putinism is really scary because of its impunity, which has been going on from the position of the kremlin for more than 100 years. starting with the famine in ukraine, ending with the military actions of 14-horror to this day, that's all with impunity, and now topics are being raised again that negotiations are needed, talks are needed, even talks about peace without victory, but we have to talk about victory, about the victory of the civilized world over putin's genocidal regime. why am i appealing and repeating this word,

it is a very difficult word, it is difficult to perceive and present, but it must be done because international law. measures this dimension by only six positions, and the putinites created them, we counted in the center at the institute, more, already almost more than ten, and this is a very serious matter, which turned from an act of genocide into a process and phenomenon of genocide, that is why we have to publicly and conceptually raise the world against the regime that is creating... the destruction not just of ukraine or europe, but actually of the world order, primarily for today's statute. mr. grigory, thank you very much for these explanations of complex topics, which are actually both the consequences and the root cause of the actions of the russian federation.

thank you very much for the inclusion, i will remind our viewers that it was hryhoriy lyubovets, the head of the communication and content security center. here they are were the main... conclusions of our military column, then the broadcast will be continued by vasyl zima, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. thank you very much to serhiy zgurets, thank you to his guest. we will continue with a lot of interesting and important information, i think you remember the announcement, i will not repeat it, but there is actually a lot to talk about. the ban on the moscow church in ukraine, what are cashbacks for... then if you buy ukrainian events outside the borders of our country, well, of course, news about the weather, whether the super heat has returned, because in fact it has a significant effect, well, for sure, what the health of many ukrainians, we will talk about all this, but now let's get to the meeting.

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for decades, well, everyone has their own time, but ukraine globally has really waited for centuries for the end of the domination and control of the moscow church on the territory of our state, it is forbidden. of the russian church, well, this is such a headline, and we will discuss the details with mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine. mr. mykola, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, and you are the author of the bill, exactly, which one, one of the bills, which and foresaw the banning of the moscow church in ukraine, first of all your emotions, as a person who for a long time fought for it in any form. local, but an end was put to the existence of the russian, specifically moscow church in ukraine, your, your emotions, after today's vote, please, i am pleased that we succeeded in the parliament, but in order to put, as you say, an end in the existence

of the russian church in ukraine, it is necessary that the government, already having the law in hand, should act effectively, that is when they stop their activity in ukraine, i will be relieved, but for now... i think we need to work even more, although this achievement is really great. well , today the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted draft law number 837. one that bans the uocp, well, it bans churches that have ties to muscovy. please decipher, i know there have been quite a few edits on this bill. on, if i'm not mistaken, i read today up to 23 pages of only edits, some managed to agree, some failed to agree work on this draft law, what exactly was adopted, and if we talk about amendments, which amendments were important, which ones? perhaps important, but were not then included in

the final document? this document submitted by the government was initially very weak, we transferred quite a few effective provisions from my draft law, which actually started this discussion about banning the activities of the russian church in ukraine 8221 as a threat to national security, this was exactly the philosophy of my law. the draft law, well, mine and my colleagues, who signed it with me and defended it, they were representatives of different factions, of our european solidarity, but not only, colleague konstantevich's law on simplifying transitions to the ocu and the law initiated by the security service of ukraine. we essentially combined all these laws into one, it does not limit the activity of any of the ukrainian churches, it prohibits the activity of the russian church, as well as those. who are subordinate to them, or have connections with them, or are subject to them, because this

structure, which is called the church in russia, in fact, it is not a church, it is a hostile public organization that works to destroy the independence of ukraine, helping the fsb and the army, and it is obvious that its activities in ukraine should have been stopped. there were really a lot of amendments, i am proud of the ones i gave, two of mine, two, two key theses did not enter there from my law. well, i consider it a mistake, but we agreed to it for now as a compromise. i was convinced that the tomos must be included in the law, because the tomos was requested not by the church, but by the state. then president poroshenko addressed the parliament, the parliament turned to saint bartholomew, it was a whole procedure. and tomos is given to the state, the church, the people, and society. and, well, there should be a law that regulates this, and the fact that there is only one orthodoxy in ukraine. it. ocu, er, and with their blessing or permission, some other

orthodox churches may arise and operate, if they exist, they will consider it necessary, so says canon law, and this is how it works in many european countries on the basis of laws in many european countries these points are not were taken into account, because of that we will still have some certain problems, i think, uh, someday we will definitely do it, as other europeans did, but a lot of other amendments, both mine and my colleagues, were taken into account, i want . to thank the head of our committee, nikita potoraev, who really showed himself as a real leader, as a person who knows how to unite, who knows how to work on the text of the law, to convince representatives of the authorities, although he himself is a representative of the authorities, i also want to thank those people who worked on this law, and iryna konstankevich, whom i called yevgenia kravchuk, and those who defended and fought for its adoption, like mrs. klymenko from the voice, aleksiychuk from the servant of the people, it was such a... great collective, one might say, creativity and collective struggle that united the majority patriotically

opinionated people in the parliament from different factions. you know, there is an answer from the representatives of the so-called uoc mp, metropolitan kliment, he is responsible for external communications, he says that this decision discredits those who made it, and as for us, he says, it is us. does not apply, therefore that we are uoc and there is no mp prefix in the name of our church. they deciphered this answer, because we also don't have another church that is connected to moscow, you can have a prefix, you can not have a prefix, the point is not what letters you write or what abbreviation you write, the point is do you have relations with moscow, or do you commemorate, conditionally speaking, a person who calls the war against ukraine sacred, meaning patriarch kirill of russia. whether you call the church or not, how would you comment on this answer, and what i wanted to say by this, well

as if nothing changes for us, but then for whom does it change? no, then what is there to talk about, they are really mentioned there, the russian church and related structures are mentioned, if they fought this law like this, but have no connection, then firstly, why should they worry , it does not concern them then, if they are so worried and nervous, then they are probably lying, as they often do and order, both among people and in the press, this is a common lie, so they themselves need to decide so that, as they say, the cap did not burn on the thieves, where they, as they do not have connection, well, uphold the law, don't worry. you are worried, then there is a reason, in the end, the religious examination confirmed this direct connection, and they act on the basis of the letter of patriarch kirill, this is all patriarch alexy, sorry, this is not a secret, it is known to everyone, that's why you say, as they say in this anecdote, nine months are given in order to break ties with the country

of greece and the aggressor with the church, which actually does not just bless the war against. the country does not just sanctify the weapon with which they kill ukrainians, and the church, which is actually waging war on the other side of the border, and very often on the territory of ukraine, also acts as an enemy agent. here are these nine months, what should happen, is it worth waiting so long, because i understand that those who do not want to break up, they will not break up, they will look for some way to avoid it, why such a deadline is given for these procedures, this is the price of a compromise, it was a condition... in the servants of the people and other supporters of this church, to give them time, why do they need this time, i do not understand, well, in principle, these all the procedures followed by the court would still take some time, because it would be necessary to carry out an examination, check whether there really is a connection, give them an order, give them the opportunity to appeal the order, after that go to court,

well, it would take seven months , so they bargained for another two months, but there is a rule of law. where this connection is direct, and it has already been proven, which does not need these nine months, their connection or their activity can be terminated right now, immediately after the adoption of the law, and they can appeal in court, and nine months applies to those in whom this connection is not obvious, well, so this is such a procedure, laws are not perfect, the main thing is to defend the basic principles and make these laws effective, maybe not so fast, not just as we would like... as national security requires, as it would be necessary to do, but effective, this law is written effectively, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi called it an act of declaring spiritual independence, i will put it figuratively, and this the truth is obvious, to say that, well, you know some write that it will be remembered in such a way that

the president, or during his presidency, i would say better, banned it. the russian church, although we understand that this is the work of many people who acted on their own initiative, and not on what they were told by the president's office, relatively speaking, but here is an important issue, for me it is important to understand, i think that you know exactly these processes, seeing from the inside, you understand where there was a break, or where some scales of the scales overpowered other scales, i will talk about it for a long time. we don't have votes, it is not on time, suddenly the elections, and the voters who go to the moscow patriarchate, there are already many of them, they will not understand, there were a lot of reservations from politicians, why suddenly all these reservations became unimportant, and it was, well, clear that given the good, at least for the parliamentary majority and those who cooperate with it,

openly vote for it, because there are more than 200, 263, if i am not mistaken, the votes may... be wrong, well, this, this, this is important, what, what has changed so sharply that suddenly voices appeared, where, where, again, where this, happened, this is a key, key chemical-political reaction, well, look, our president, a former colleague of yours is a tv presenter, the truth is in a different genre, just like you look at the ratings, and when 80% of ukrainians want to ban this church, the president cannot this cannot be disregarded and act against the will of people, therefore he acts according to the will. people, and this is positive, there is nothing wrong with this, i hope that in general it will continue like this, you say that there are many of them, well , 4% of ukrainians, it is certainly a lot, for us the voice of every ukrainian is important, but it is not so many, as in the parishioners of ukrainian churches, that's why most of those people, when they see this law and the state's attitude towards it, i think they will realize that

the state does not subsidize this, they will start going to ukrainian churches, just when the state says so closed her eyes, they thought that... it is possible, it must be so, that's why i don't see any big tragedy here, everything is going as it should, but somewhere around february , i remember talking to people who are engaged in active social activities in and business and are somehow involved in support of church communities, in particular in vyshgorod, and there were priests who went to the orthodox church of ukraine together with the communities. there were those who did not convert, well , the motivation was different, quite strange, of course, but in any case, well, now the question is, how should they convert the congregation to the orthodox one? church or simply remain under what brand then, well, i'm simplifying, it's not a brand, of course, it's the name of the church, but so be it, to remain as

the uoc, or whatever it should call itself, that is, breaking ties with muscovy is one, and on another matter - these are churches, these communities and further actions in the legal aspect, because this is also very important, in fact, if they are really orthodox, they should become part of a single local ukraine. orthodox churches, if they are not orthodox, but wear cassocks, it is enough for them to sever ties with moscow, i don't care what they will be called, the church of the saint wants, for me it does not play any role, the main thing is to sever ties with moscow , that is, relatively speaking, you can name, register, register some new church, you can think of anything, the main thing is that you have no legal, financial, political, or any other connections with moscow, then, then, in principle, it doesn't matter what your name is, but it is important. by the way, mr. mykola, for a long time there was a struggle for the kyivochervskaya lavra, a national reserve, and how much was taken from there in soviet and pre-soviet times, how much was stolen in recent

times, how much business there was, how many incomprehensible structures there were, there even militants who fought against ukraine as part of the so-called dnr were hiding, i again well, i will say what was not there and still managed to displace the moscow influence from both the cultural and spiritual holiday. of ukraine, but there is the pochaiv lavra, which at one time was taken, if i am not mistaken, generally from the greek catholics, now it is under the full control of the church that we know as the uocmp, whatever it calls itself there, and if we talk about such cult buildings, shrines, well, laurels are the spiritual shrines of the people, there cannot be many of them, but how should it be here, in your opinion, should there be action, because again , to be renamed, to say that we torn apart is one story, but when it remains effectively under the control of the people. who still mentally, spiritually, ideologically support the politics of, let's say, the same kirill, no matter how they are called, no matter how they are repainted, well, this is wrong,

ukrainian shrines should belong to the ukrainian church, the ukrainian people, that's all i can tell you to say that the moscow priests must be driven out of there, it must be done normally within the limits of the current legislation, i believe that this will happen in the near future, it should not be of russian priests in ukrainian... shrines, the more the authorities, who should check, or how this procedure will take place, nine months pass, they give almost a year, and then who should check, they broke the ties, they did not break it, this you have to look at the documents , you can on the first day, after nine months you have to file a lawsuit, if these documents are clear, we have an organ, the state service of ethnopolitics, and how the law will be implemented will depend on the effectiveness of its work, in my case there is a lot of this efficiency now. questions, but i want to believe that they will change their approaches, and the state will understand the importance of this service and they will be able to hire more people, they will be strong, strong specialists, patriotic

people, and they will cope with it. i recently read a story that there was a building on the territory of one of the military units of ukraine, which was legally under the control of the moscow church, and it was as if it was taken there. the role of the state of ukraine, but you understand that, let's say, such a structure and a person who can be in that structure in the role priest or someone else, may simply be, well , conditionally speaking, an agent of muscovy on the territory of the military unit, and where they were not, they tried to restore something on the territory near the museum of the history of ukraine, where the foundation of the tithe church was everywhere tried to put their small architectural eyes forms, and here is the question... with the cleansing, with the cleansing, of the so-called agency, if you can say so, how long do you think the process lasted, i am not saying who should be responsible for it, who should

fight it, just generally cleansing from of this moscow influence, in your opinion, precisely for the people, how long is this process, 80% are in favor of not having a moscow church, but globally, how long will it take to forget about its existence altogether, as they forgot, say, about the russian dubbing in the cinema, about russian music on the radio. about the russian language on television, many things were forgotten thanks to the initiative deputies, well, how long will it take to forget the fact that there was once a moscow church, the initiative deputies did everything possible for the government and the des, to make it happen as quickly as possible, then it will be necessary to control their work, how they work, i do not know how long it will take, if desired, if there is political will, it can be done in three months not to be in ukraine, i think. everything would be right, if there is no desire, there will be some kind of bargaining, unclear, it will drag on for some time, if there is public pressure and the public will will accelerate, well, but in

any case there is an inevitable, reversible course of history, it is clear that many people who they fed here, they don’t understand this, this course of history, i’m the last question, how important it is, both in terms of finances, because we, well , maybe, i don’t know the latest data there, but at one time, the largest part of the money, which she went to moscow, she came precisely from ukraine, from the parishes of the ukrainian orthodox church, the moscow patriarchate, how can they cling again to money, because this, because this is also really important, where ukrainians take their finances, and what kind of church they develop and and and support well, yes, it is important, for one thing on the one hand, money flowed, on the other, russia pumped money into them for the sake of their propaganda, but through the pro-russian oligarchs who were active in ukraine, they were told, if you want to do business, if you want to trade with us,

give such and such a tenth to the church, and ... part of this money went to moscow, and part remained with them. it is obvious that this is such a financial cesspool, and it simply should not exist, we simply ban them with their money, with their pops, with their obscurantism, with their hatred of ukraine, with their hypocrisy, all this must be put on cross. another thing is that there are also some decent priests there, and they can be, they remain priests, even when their church will not be here, they still have their rank according to the canonical ones. and no one prevents them from going to the ukrainian church and serving god and people there. thank you very much, first of all for your work and for voting and thank you for your comments. mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine, was in touch with us. on the day when a truly historical event took place, the banning of the moscow church on the territory of our state, which is actually here had a little dominance, well, if not, since about the 17th century ad, it

has been oppressed for quite a long time. influence, well, but a new life is beginning, and i hope that it will be, that all this darkness of moskkovskaya will disappear. how russia has tried to destroy the ukrainian church for years, i will tell you for a second how russia has tried to destroy the ukrainian church for years, how our clergy has fought for its independence, this was discussed with the head of the ukrainian greek catholic church, his beatitude svyatoslav shevchuk. you can see the full interview. august 4 in our marathon bright people in dark times, the spiritual enslavement of ukraine began immediately when the russian empire began step by step to colonize the territory of ukraine. step by step, as soon as russia, the russian empire annexed new ukrainian lands, it... began to destroy

our church, and it is obvious that then russia tried to russify this territory, with the help of various symbols, even monuments, everything possible was used was in order to approve this, you know, this, well, simply murderous ideology, its orthodoxy, autocratic, by the people. yes, it was a wonderful interview with his beatitude sviatoslav, the head of the ukrainian greek catholic church , vladyka, on august 24, don't miss it, like the rest of the interviews that i and my colleagues did for you, well, literally in a moment of news, two hours, to learn about war and how the world lives, a project for smart and caring people, in the evening over espresso. good evening, we are from ukraine. well,

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