literature, extremist, calls for war, calls for blood, calls for the murder of russians, minister sidorov travels to all kinds of russian forums, develops poor russian culture on the territory of luhansk region, russifies libraries, theaters and cinemas, glorifies the russian army, putin and the kremlin, generally typical the routine of a traitor to the motherland. the ministry of internal affairs declared sidorov wanted, he is also on the lists of the substation. persons, according to the decrees of the current and past presidents, this is only the beginning, this is the first result, and very soon this could be the end of you, dmytro, and you will have time behind bars to delve into the wonderful ukrainian culture. the next traitor with the rank of minister, oleg viktorovych shereneshev , born in 1988, hails from krasnudon , luhansk region. we are for a strong russia, it has only such a future. in 2009, oleg

graduated from the luhansk state university of internal affairs, in 2012 he headed the children's department of the executive committee of the krasnodon city council, was a ukrainian official, and when in april 2014 the occupiers captured krasnodon, chereneshev began to serve the rashists. and so inspired that they appointed him the head of the department of physical culture and sports, and last year made him the minister of sports of the so-called luhansk region. people's republic. our people, citizens, athletes, children, people of different ages, will be able to take advantage of modern facilities that meet all the technological standards of a sports facility that was previously unavailable in the republic. the modern sports facilities opened by shereneshev are the old defaced sports halls built almost a century ago and seized by the occupiers, where for a picture of propaganda television, drive away children and imitate care for their health, painted the cracked walls with...

paint, and here they are: modern innovations in the ehler style. of course, all this is thanks to russia. as a respected rishi official, oleshko puffs out his cheeks, calls to support putin, organizes sports events, born in 1968, originally from luhansk region. today, the government adopted a resolution on the remuneration of employees whose positions are not state-owned. after the occupation of luhansk region, makarenko immediately i understood the order of russian. measure and began to implement it, she quickly received the position of minister of labor and social policy of the fake lpr. the chair turned out to be so comfortable that the traitor does everything to sit in it as long as possible. this is a large-scale event for the whole of russia. we, as a new region, are voting for the president of the country for the first time, and we are voting for the future, for our happy future. votes for putin, talks about regular shelling from ukraine, popularizes russian programs. among

the local population. today the government the resolution of the luhansk people's republic was adopted, which provides for the payment of annual financial assistance until the day of victory. suspicion and a just sentence from the ukrainian themis have already awaited this fan of the bloody dictatorial regime. it was the program collaborators and i, olena kononenko. if you want to tell us about the kremlin sellers, write to us at this email address or simply on facebook. we will send it together. all traitors in pursuit of the russian ship. see you in a week at eter espresso. today in the verdict with serhiy rudenko. day of spiritual victory. the verkhovna rada adopted a law banning the activities of the russian orthodox church by the votes of the majority of factions. in ukraine, how

did you manage to break the resistance of the hidden parliamentary opposition? buffer zone in russia. the armed forces of ukraine continue to expand the band of effective control on the territory of the kursk region. will the russian occupiers be able to build a cauldron after the destruction of the bridges across the diet. realities on the ground sting the eyes. putin. abruptly stopped negotiations with zelenskyi on a ceasefire, who can force the dictator to change his mind and can ukraine's accession to nato be part of the peace agreement with russia? glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next

two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. today , in the first part of the program, we will have people's deputy of ukraine, colonel of the security service of ukraine, roman kostenko. major of the national guard in the reserve oleksiy hetman and doctor of political sciences, political scientist maksym rozumny. in in the second part of our program, which will start in exactly one hour, we will have people's deputies of ukraine, mykyta potoraev, volodymyr yatrovych and solomiya bobrovska. well, of course, we will talk about the historic decision, the adoption in the second reading of the draft law that prohibits the existence of religious organizations in ukraine. related to russia, the first is the uoc-mp. during the next nine months, this religious structure must determine its own status and how the events surrounding this church, which has a lot of parishes now on the territory

of the ukrainian state. however, before starting our big conversation, i suggest you see how the third day is burning in rostov oblast. the fire at the rostov oil depot still cannot be extinguished, the fire has already engulfed more than a dozen fuel tanks. earlier, the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine confirmed the attack on the kavkaz plant. oil and oil products were stored there for the occupiers. let's see what is happening there now. run away, it's bad, and there they will be, oh my, wow, this is already

scary for me, now they're all talking, let's get out of here, i'm already hot, everything, now everything will be fine. glory to the armed forces of ukraine and death to the russian occupiers. friends, we are conducting a survey throughout the broadcast. today we are asking you about whether the russian orthodox church will stop its activities in ukraine after the adoption of the law. it refers to the law banning the activities of russian religious organizations. yes, no, on youtube everything is up to... just, if you have your own opinion, please leave it in the comments below this video, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on the numbers, if you think that the current law passed by the verkhovna rada will stop the russian orthodox church from operating in ukraine, please call

0800 211 381, not 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program . we will sum up the results of this vote. we have our first guest, roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, colonel of the security service of ukraine. mr. colonel, i congratulate you, thank you, that joined the air. good evening. mr. colonel, since we are asking our tv viewers about this law, which was adopted today by the verkhovna rada in its final version, in the final version, i want. i would like to ask you, as i ask our tv viewers, whether the roc will stop its activities in ukraine after the adoption of this law? well , this is a very important step, and this, let's say, the parliament confirmed that it recognizes the danger of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, and

it must cease its activities unequivocally, but speaking from a legal point of view, whether if it ceases to exist tomorrow, then no, there are procedures that must... take place, where there is a special commission that has to prove that they are prohibited in our country, it is not specifically written about the rps, all religious organizations, the center of which are prohibited in our country there are aggressors in the country, but now this task will be to prove that the roc or its leaders there, let’s say the leaders, they are the center of ukraine, the aggressor, for us it is clear, but we understand that this has been proven since the 14th year, and there are legal points where they are there in the courts for us. tried to prove that they were already an independent church, that such, you know, as an instinct of self-preservation in them, that at this moment we will renounce russia, let's say that we are the church of ukraine, so if everything is done correctly, if there is a principled position of the political authorities, if there is a politically principled position of the special services, then

i think so, mr. colonel, but explain to me, please, and why in the conditions of war, if the church, any church or religious. an organization that threatens national security and defense cannot be closed, its activities cannot be stopped, taking into account on the fact that it harms the national. interests and security of ukraine? well, first of all, we have a constitution that allows and ensures freedom of speech for everyone, and secondly, once again, the big question here is the security service, which must prove that this entire religious organization carries such consequences, not specifically some parish, or some priest who is there, but that is how the legislation is written, that is why the decision was made directly to implement it in the law, that all religious... this is the center of which is the aggressor in the country, it should be banned in ukraine, that's why now i think that under this

will be developed, let's say this whole mechanism, how it will be prohibited and how this law will be implemented, i say once again, it will now depend on, well , first of all, the president has to sign it, i hope that he will do it, and secondly, it is already a matter of implementing this draft law, that is, the verkhovna rada has done its job, now it is a matter for the president. there and behind the president's office, we understand that all the special services there are in principle the executive power, it is connects directly to the president's office, that's how everything works for us now, so if she, if there are issues here, everyone knows where to go and who to ask. today, colonel, the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted a law on the status of military personnel fighting on the territory of the russian federation, which guarantees them the same payments. and preferences, as well as on the front line, if you can briefly, what does this

law change? well, it was forbidden in our country, we understand, we have a doctrine of defense and we had, let's say, fighting, our military is fighting only on the territory of our own state, but we understand that the format of hostilities is changing, in order to impose on russia its initiative to inflict losses on them and conduct asymmetric actions, and the operation in the kursk region is just that, and as an example of asymmetric actions , we are forced to seize russian territories, occupy them and hold them in order to somehow influence the situation, so now we, let's say, not only legalized, but confirmed the status of our military, those who are in that territory, this is a formal history for these military to be protected by law. mr. colonel, last week you visited the kurshchyna, you were in the war zone. where, in fact , this kurdish arc, the new kurdish

arc, is being formed, and what are your impressions of what you saw, how it contrasted with what you saw in the east of the south, the east in the 14th year, in the south in 2022 year, that is, how did the hostilities on the territory of the russian federation differ from the hostilities in the east and south. of ukraine? well, military actions in general on the territory of ukraine are different from military actions on the territory of the russian federation. we can also speak in the east, when we conducted an anti-terrorist operation, when the separatists who were supported by the russians there used the same local population, we remember who stopped our convoys there and in particular it was the ukrainians who were there, let's say this , with their vision and the fact that the russians supported them, they raised separatism and they, let's say, were guided by the russians,

but they went out and stopped these columns, then when the war began, uh, uh, full-scale in the 22nd , already all on those territories where the russian federation invaded, our entire population came out, we remember this rise of our country, which, starting from handing over the coordinates of the russians. ending with the pouring, pouring of molotov cocktails and all the other support there, the queues for military officers, everything was like that , all of ukraine looked like that then, such a defensive rush, what is happening in the russian federation, well , our troops just entered, came into contact with servicemen, russian , somewhere by military personnel, somewhere by fsb officers, someone was destroyed, someone was taken to... and they started to move on, i didn't see or hear any stories

about the fact that somewhere there the local population resisted or went out into the streets, how our tanks stopped there with their hands with flags ukrainian, none of the civilian population of the russian federation resisted, on the contrary, well, here is the story, that there... such villages near the border and such, as you can call them, they call them tsarist villages, customs officers, border guards, such an elite were fed there local, so when they were the first... ran away, and the usual ones local residents who are there, well, of course, yes, the middle class remained there, or below the middle class, then they, you know, in principle, often we, well, often, let’s say, the military watched, loot, loot was looted, then they, they made a good living there with their neighbors in the past, that's why such a story was observed, but no one

opposed the defense forces of ukraine, well, in general, maybe some single ones, i don't know about them. but in general, i don't know of any such case. mr. colonel, how realistic is the creation of a buffer zone in chickens, about what said the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, and maintaining this buffer zone. obviously, it is not only about the kursk region, but also about the belgorod region, voronizka and bryansk, because these are the most critical lines now. of the ukrainian-russian border and they are probably the least and most vulnerable, because the combat zone from kharkiv oblast and across from sumy oblast and ending there with zaporizhia oblast or donetsk oblast, in principle, this is a very large front line, as far as realistically

to keep what was taken and now captured by the ukrainian defenders and... and the expansion of this buffer zone along the entire border, well , look, you can’t say that here, just to what extent, it’s realistic in general, but as of now, for example, it’s realistic, for example , if tomorrow the enemy withdraws all his combat-capable troops from the eastern direction and throws them there, then of course we will have to reinforce there, so everything will depend on many factors, what are the enemy's forces and means, what are our reserves, what are our opportunities for. .. replenishing us with ammunition, there mobilization resources and all that, this is in relation to the kurdish direction, if we talk there about the creation of the entire zone of such a sanitary along the entire border, for this , huge resources are needed, even russia, i think, will not be able to afford it, in the conditions, if we will put up normal resistance, because it is a border of thousands of kilometers, and if we keep

combat-capable troops there who will be able to resist, not such conscripts as the russians, who we came to thanks to our... brigades are enough, let's say, for sure, then for this serious forces and means are needed, which russia has shown that they do not have, they are using them right now in the pokrovsk region, where they are under pressure, i think that the issue of the sanitary zone is, well, if you can match the trolling of our president in the direction of putin , who we remembered was the first to declare, after belgorodchyna, where the russian volunteer corps worked, that russia would create... a sanitary zone, i think that our president, as a person who knows such humor, simply trolled him in that plan, what did you want, and we did, because it looks like this now, of course, there are jokes, but there our military is conducting serious offensive and active actions, which are bearing these fruits, i think that the consequences of the kurdish

operation are already there, but the main consequences are yet to come, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi... explained, mr. colonel, that kyiv did not warn the world about the preparation of the offensive of the armed forces of ukraine in the kursk region, because it could seem unrealistic. let's listen to what zelensky said. a few months ago, many people in the world if he heard that we are planning such an operation, he would say that it is unrealistic and that this is the crossing of the supposedly reddest... of all the red lines that exist in russia. that is why, in fact, no one has heard of such training of ours. and now the real success of our soldiers speaks for itself: our active defensive actions on the other side of the border and putin's inability to protect his territory from such defensive actions of ours are very

eloquent. mr. colonel, there is one important person left in russia. an argument which until now they have not used in the war against of ukraine, and in general in any wars - these are nuclear weapons. when the great russian-ukrainian war was just beginning, and when the ukrainians were talking about the fact that we would liberate crimea, then putin and medvedev, his inner voice and his outer voice, repeated that what if there is an attack on our country and a part is captured of our territory, or a part of our territory from... goes to ukraine hinting at crimea, then we may use nuclear weapons, are we ready at the current stage according to your opinion, all of them are ready. these kremlin brothers still press the red button and cross the red line beyond which they are persuaded not to cross by the united

states of america and china. well, we can't rule anything out, because this is the russian federation. we also thought that they were ready to make a full-scale invasion in the 20th century, we see that they are ready, are they ready to hit the civilian population with missiles? we see that they are ready to demolish there. all kabama, kill children, we see that russia can do all this, there throw groundless assaults to kill their people by the thousands in a day, they can also, therefore, exclude and now say that they will not be able to 100%, i would not, what you are right geopolitically, many countries, which, i think, warned them about this, in including big players like china and the united states, and when we talk about the consequences, i just don't know what the consequences are. who could i be if i were in the place of the united states and understood that russia can use nuclear weapons, even tactical ones, there they are not so super destructive, there

they are not some, that is why and the fact that tactical weapons are not super destructive, there kilometer by kilometer they can destroy everything there, or not everything they find there, but destructive, so it can be said that putin can use something so small to show ... that he is ready to further escalate, so of course it would be important here for our diplomats and, for example, for our partners, to say that, look, the budapest memorandum was signed, and if it comes to ukraine, you can use ordinary weapons there to fight, that the law of ukraine, we help them, you have your own weapons, much more, you fight, but if weapons are used in ukraine, we will transfer equivalent ammunition to ukraine within the framework of the budapest memorandum. which will be applied on the territory of ukraine, for example, tactically, we will transfer it from europe tactically, we will not stand idly by ourselves, but we will transfer it, and i think that this is such a fuse, it would play a key

role if our partners would say about it, there is nothing here such, here about intentions to fulfill the obligations that were taken a long time ago, if it had been announced, i think it would have reduced by an order of magnitude the possibility of russia using nuclear weapons, because of course russia now... i think ukraine does not have it, we have it, and this is our last such trump card, which we will always be able to use , to use, if there was such a thing, i think it would make them think very hard before doing something. by the way, the belarusian dictator oleksandr lukashenko, who has been rattling his guns for the past two weeks and saying that we will now bring the troops to the ukrainian-belarusian border, because from there flying drones, it is meant from the territory of the ukrainian state, says that... by attacking kurshchyna, kyiv can provoke moscow to use nuclear weapons. let's listen to what lukashenko said. such escalation on the part of ukraine

is an attempt to push russia to asymmetric actions, well, let's say, the use of nuclear weapons. i know, for sure, that in ukraine they would be very happy if russia used, or we are there, tactical nuclear weapons. it would be. happiness, then we would hardly have any allies left, none at all, not even those countries that sympathize would remain how do you, mr. colonels, assess the possibility of expanding the front already along the line of ukraine and belarus, due to this, can their army create problems for us, well , this means both training and numbers. from this army, because lukashenko says that on our side of the border there are 120,000 soldiers in the armed forces, as far as i remember, the army of belarus,

if i'm not mistaken, consists of about 25-30 thousand people, or i i'm wrong, well, yes, they have about this number, well, i like how lukashenko says, we or the russian federation, what is on its territory there... russia does not seem to have this confirmation and, let's say, has placed nuclear munitions, it has placed them for itself, and it is belarus and lukashenko with their dictatorial, let's say , rule , it is only a storage place for these munitions, a warehouse, let 's say, for the russian federation, there is no right to use it, it is just a warehouse where russia, i will repeat once again, receives these dangerous munitions, so there it once... answers that he can apply, he will not be able to apply anything, because no one will give him such a right and opportunity, as for belarus itself, again, look, we

cannot rule out anything in the war, but as of now, as intelligence says... so what there is no direct threat from belarus there, russia can use them, of course, again as a bridgehead, well, in general, they are used as they want, to say that belarus is now a sovereign state, russia does whatever it wants with them, attacks neighboring regions, countries through them, then now to exclude something, what to say, no, belarus is sovereign there and makes its own decisions, we can't do that, that's why they are a threat to us, just like... the russian federation, which we have to pay attention to. thank you, mr. colonel, for the conversation, it was the people's deputy of ukraine, colonel of the security service of ukraine roman kostenko. friends, i would like to remind you that we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms, on youtube and facebook. for those who are currently watching us live there, please remember to subscribe to our channels as well as our pages and also participate in our survey. today, we are asking you

about whether to cease operations. in ukraine roc after the adoption of the law of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. yes, no, respectively, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you watch us on tv, you can vote by numbers if you think that the adoption of the law will stop the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, 0800 211 381, no , 0.800, 211 382, ​​vote, at the end of the program we will... compare the results of this vote. next, we have oleksiy hetman, a military analyst, reserve major of the national guard of ukraine, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. mr. major, i welcome you, thank you for being with us today. good evening to you. major, can i do it right away, i'll start without question. come on, the colonel just talked a little bit, he didn't emphasize some things about the use of nuclear weapons. two words literally. let's. first, international. it is not

the law that prohibits the use, well, if a country deploys, according to some agreements, the military in another country, then that country, or whoever owns the weapons, is responsible for launching these missiles and is responsible for their safety and fully for their collection, i.e. all maintenance, germany is not a nuclear country, there are nuclear weapons, turkey has nuclear weapons, in other countries, that is, it is written in international law, as well as nuclear weapons that are transferred to belarus, the belarusians have the right only to guard the perimeter, this is, first of all, because according to international law, and as the russians can and do not want to use this international international law, no one will allow lukashenka or anyone else to dispose of their own nuclear weapons, who knows where he is there, where what and where they're going to launch it, so here, let him not tell there, nothing like that can happen, i'll be very brief on the last one, tactical nuclear weapons can be

used, but... er warhead, nuclear warhead is charged before launch , an intercontinental ballistic missile, a mine there is different, they are already with a nuclear charge, and it is a tactical nuclear weapon, it is in warehouses and only before use it is loaded into missiles, and when the movement of these ammunition from warehouses to missiles begins, we we immediately record this, so far there have been no movements, no downloads, and according to our still -given intelligence, it is not expected. record countries that actually also have nuclear weapons, control the movement of nuclear, nuclear charges that are being transported, it is clear that in a situation when putin and lukashenko declare that there are some warheads, nuclear warheads, they are on the territory of the belarusian state, this is not included in these agreements of international,

international treaties, when... it is about states that