state, but the fundamental issue is that the voters never vote for it again, never again vote for those people who will continue to support this moscow so-called church in the verkhovna rada for literally days, but they will move on to other political projects, and for they can vote again, so the key issue is that our voter has a better memory, so that voters, going to the polling stations , understand and know who they are voting for, so that they are interested in the biography of these people and the biography of these structures , and wondered what they said three years ago, or five years ago, and what made them change their position, the position can be changed, but the position cannot be changed in such a way that it contradicts the interests of ukraine, so it is necessary to understand this, and i think that until ukrainian voters finally learn to remember those people for whom they ... vote, until

they learn to remember what these people did in the past, until then we will always have such rebirths as you say, there will always be opposition, non-opposition blocs, the party of regions, the renewed party of regions, the united party of the regions, it will always be until all of us learn to vote not on the emotions that live there for 5 minutes when voters go to vote, but on a measured, intelligent, thinking basis before going to electoral division choosing carefully, because everything depends on these people, so the laws will help here, but of course, the memory of the voters is the best safeguard against new parties of the regions, or new renewals of yanukovych in the verkhovna rada , even after the end of the war. well, obviously, not only the memory of ukrainians, but also the work of special services and the work of state bodies, which in one way or another, especially during the war. regulate

the situation that exists in the country, and what the spokeswoman for the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation , maria zakharova, says shows that they still hope for a split in ukrainian society, she says that banning the uocp only deepens the split in ukrainian society, obviously they are counting on it, let's listen to what zakharova said. here the goal was to eradicate the canonical. not orthodoxy, but to let it down instead pontoon, here is a replacement, which should be understood only in this way, a false church, you understand, to create a quasi-orthodox church, it should be called that, it is not a schismatic one that broke away, it is a false quasi-church, and this is said by a person who represents the country, in which quasi-church was also, in principle, a moscow church in naskolnytsia. russian orthodox church. mr.

viktor, given that russia claims our heritage, spiritual heritage and claims that there is a part of their roots here, and in fact, this is their root, not there are no ukrainians there. do you think that the russian federation will still try to appropriate this history and create some myths that...we were the first and we were the second in this history, and twist it, as putin often does , by the way does when he erects a monument to volodymyr the great there, 25 meters high in moscow, and tries to show that they are the inheritors of this glorious history, and not ukrainians. well, when volodymyr, prince volodymyr baptized rus, in the swamps. that there are monkeys in the trees

ran, yes, well, we know that, but, if we are candid historically, yes, uh, zakharov can be talked into anything, and we know for ourselves, yes, we know that they were in a split with the byzantine church, for a long time there for more than 150 years, yes, they, their metropolis was not recognized, they ordained themselves, then they did not actually buy this canonicality, well, when the patriarch of constantinople actually lived in istanbul and the sultans controlled it, it was possible to buy it, buy it back , but there the moscow tsars were richer than the patriarchs of constantinople, and you can something had to be done, we remember that they have not had a patriarch since 1700, that they had a right vinot under peter and so on, there , there, there... well, in fact, well, for 200 years, 200 years

they have there was no patriarch, there was something like what they were talking about there, something they could hide from us, they have now left. with the patriarchate of constantinople in a split, in fact, having become schismatics, now, they are schismatics, not to blame us, but this is history, these are nuances that ordinary people do not understand, for ordinary people everything is clear, there for ordinary people, yes, there is a part of the faithful, again i say that they are found there in ukraine from 6 to 13% in various regions there, well, that is, it is a small layer of the population, for nothing in principle no no no no no no they don't do anything, not only that, they are people, as a rule, who are already of an older age , who are faithful there, what about these popes, bishops, who will forever be this paul's swan, there they kiss hands, yes, there, despite what you say

, look, you throw pennies at him, mercedes , well then without that, these are already people, we will not remake them with them, the moscow popes with them can do anything they want, yes, they are people who are... easy to manipulate, but this is such a small part of society that it is, well, we, as it were, civilized people, we cannot but ignore them, but their opinion, at least we can ignore and to say there, they won’t make the weather, but these fsb colonels must be brought out into the open, colonels, majors or young boys who run around in the uniform of a lieutenant of the fsb, anyway, we can’t, so that in the kyiv-pechersk lavra, or in svyatyi gory, or in pochai... there are lieutenants ran, that's right, we can't, and they are fsb lieutenants in any way, but we have to react to this, we have to explain it to people, we have to communicate like this, we need communication to be with every religious community, so that they transfer, in our country, i read today , almost 900 communities, 880 have somehow moved from

the russian orthodox church, well, from the moscow patriarchate to epiphany to the ocu. what is needed for such churches in 9 months, this period has been set aside, yes, so that there will be even more. we now have more ocu than the moscow patriarchate. however, in some oblasts, in particular in my native sumy oblast, the moscow patriarchate prevails, because there in this community, which i am now in, it is north of the diet, and this community, i will tell you honestly, here in andriy derkach's district is only in glukhovo and shostka . one church of the ocu, all the rest is the moscow patriarchate, he simply did not allow anyone to physically open up here, this, well, state traitor andriy derkach, who is a colonel there, to be honest, you are telling me about this, i am really bitter for my family sumshchyn, that's on

the people of sumy have a completely different character, that is, and this was shown in the first days of the war, but we knew before, and the revolution of dignity and... the orange revolution did not take place aside, and the student revolution on the grass, a completely different world, i mean , compared there with eastern ukraine, if we take donetsk region or, let's say, luhansk region there, that is, it is a cossack region, and the descendants of cossacks, because these hundreds and regiments that were in the territory of the sumy region, they are basically from there, well, people and gone, all those who are now there, and for me it is... a mystery, to be honest, why there are so many churches of the moscow patriarchate in the sumy region, although i was also baptized in this church of the moscow patriarchate in sumy, and it is clear that it was soviet times, but now it is simple for me

a mystery, i don’t understand why at the moment when russia has been attacking the sumy region quite actively for the past six months, so precisely, well, the attack, why there... the moscow popes have so much power, i can’t do it, well, more at the expense of in the north of the region of what is north of the seym, it is not in the roma this is the situation in mind, but it was in the spring of 22 , he closed all the churches in moscow, and they were suing him, well, he closed and closed, well, he is like that, he is very like that, and so and so... another story , another story that is unfolding before our eyes is how the representatives of the ecumenical patriarch bartholomew are now trying to be included in the negotiations, major negotiations,

between the representatives of the orthodox churches in ukraine, president zelensky had a telephone conversation with the patriarch of selensk, he reported this in social networks that reported, the president of ukraine separately emphasized the importance of the new law on spiritual independence, which is meant in the conversation supported by the all-ukrainian council of churches of religious organizations and emphasized that an independent people should be independent. also spiritually, and he thanked the patriarch for receiving the ukrainian delegation in istanbul and invited him to visit ukraine, but andriy kovalev writes on his facebook page that today a delegation of the ecumenical patriarchate arrived in ukraine, which in particular will contribute to the search for ways understanding between the orthodox churches of ukraine and the orthodox and dialogue to achieve unity in the church issue. mr. serhiy, do you think it will be possible to achieve this dialogue and understanding between the orthodox churches in ukraine, and

in 9 months, one of the churches will be forced to choose what to do next and how, well i think that it will not be possible immediately, but gradually step by step, this is the same process as the formation of ukrainian identity in general, ukrainian identity was formed a long time ago, it became state after 91st year. but even after 1991, we know how difficult it all was, and what ukrainians thought, and who was their geopolitical enemy, and who was their geopolitical friend until 13, when most ukrainians believed that nato was enemy bloc, and they have a common history with russia, most, not all, of course, but there were, then after the 14th year, an understanding was formed that we should go to the european union, that we belong to this european civilization, already after full-scale aggression russia, i think, even more citizens have finally... understood who they are who is a true friend and who is an enemy, and this process continues, it cannot last, you know,

for a few days, it is the process of creating ukrainian identity, and like any identity, it is created over years, even decades, so from visit, bartholomew, of course, something will depend, it is important to show the world that we respect different churches, that we have a dialogue, that we are not talking about banning the church at all, we are talking about... defense of a terrorist structure, but it's a matter of time, that the issue of the gradual formation of the understanding among ukrainians that they belong to the same culture as the church, where there may be, by the way, many religious churches, but the most important thing is that they are citizens of one single state, and such awareness cannot be a few days, but step by step, i absolutely believe, i'm sure, by the way, it is majestic. putin's strategic defeat is huge, by the way, not only for putin, but also for russia in general, that

the ukrainian state will definitely exist, and if it definitely exists, then it will definitely have churches that will support ukraine, and dialogue, and tolerance and democracy, but of course not as quickly as we wanted. friends, i remind you that we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, throughout our broadcast we conduct a survey, we ask you about whether the moscow church is under threat. security of ukraine, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you have a separate opinion, leave it in the comments under this video, if you are watching us on tv, take a dork smartphone or phone and vote 0800-211 381, if you think that the moscow church threatens the security of ukraine, and no, 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, i remind you that today ... we have viktor boberenko and serhiy taran on the air, and gentlemen, obviously we

have to say a word about the kurdish operation, because one way or another, after the decision to ban the moscow church, it is a leading topic not only in the ukrainian media in the ukrainian society, in the world press a lot is written about this, about what ukraine is gaining, what... it is losing in the current situation, well, we see how the ukrainians entered the judgment, how they moved on, and obviously kursk will be next, or moscow will be next, mr. viktor , you are closer to suzhiy, to the kursk region, and obviously you are where these three bridges blew up, in glushkovo, yes, glushkovo, glushkovo, called, yes, yes, yes, only you on this side. sejm, well, it is meant, well, i was once there, i was on this

hlushkova bridge, i was there, i know him, this bridge once we students were taken there, there was the euroregion of yaroslavl, and the europeans gave us money so that there would be wild kidnappings, we had many exchanges, including the press clubs of journalists, alla oleksiivna fedorina, you probably know, she drove and we accepted, she is my teacher in journalism . ours used to go there to explore the ukrainian villages on that side, on the other side, but they identify themselves very clearly, not as russians, we are not muscovites, this is identification, well, by the way, let’s say, it was around 2003 was very clear, and no somewhere in 2007-8, the last time i went, i

was on the glushkovsky bridge, yes, it was a long time ago, it was there about 15 years ago, but on this bridge, which is now being shown to you, i was, here and there, well, what can i say, that political goals are more important here than military ones, yes, military ones are good, we went there, we are delaying, maybe we are delaying, maybe we are not delaying, i am not an expert, but the fact that even in sums the euphoria is terrible , this despite the fact that everyone admits that, yes, we will now be hostages of the situation, according to the amount of arrivals it has become more. will be more frequent, but still euphoria, and euphoria is not that we are not beasts there , like our neighbors, yes, we are not wild, we understand that if somewhere, well, for many russians, russians - it is grief , but we can’t get angry about it, but there is

such an opinion, you know, that’s what i say, i’m saying that, god forbid, the eroshka sees even a little bit, it’s like they are now caught in a war, they finally know what war is, no only us, and after 2.5 years, she came to them, and that comforts us, yes, like, we understand this, we understand that the allies have changed, we understand that the russians will also change now, this is a blow to russian pride, that they shouted all the way, grandfathers fought, if we have to repeat it, now... maybe they will shout: grandfathers fought , let's fight, enough, enough, guys, stop fighting, that 's what they will say, and this, well, there are many results, the global south can be seen there, which putin loves there, yes there, modi rushed to us there, to ukraine, there, well, of course we will be stopped, but now no one is

will say that on russian terms, well, now lavov can be overruled, now zer... something, taking into account the realities on the ground, well, let's take into account, as lavrov says, the realities on the ground, i will tell you honestly and confidentially and to all our viewers, because someone thinks that our people from there will make noise there now and leave, no, they won't, i tell you this with confidence, we will now defend the court as the suzhan district of the sumy region, we will knock them out of glushkov, because there it is necessary... and i think that all this will happen, and it will be expensive for them. yes now we all know about the corridor named after iryna veryschuk, everything and the russians must be prepared in the sudji, what to do, what, the suji will not be, the suji will be what how, something with the audio system, yes,

because one of the methods of managing the naroseyushka, who beats his own so that foreigners are afraid, they will use this method, they own these district centers, glushkova, korineva, i judge, they will burn them to the ground just to knock out ours, and that is why they will have to be taken out there, we must, well, we live in new realities , on august 6, a slightly different world opened up, and but all of them are political, i will not say about military prospects, all political prospects we caught, for us this is a cool step, thank you, sir. viktor, mr. serhiy, how do you think the events in kurtshchyna will develop further and, of course, we are interested in how the world community will perceive it, because it was not for nothing that we mentioned the rome statute and joining the international criminal court in the announcement, because it turns out that

ukraine could not ratify this roman statute for 20 years and now. warrant for putin's arrest, and it is clear that ukraine is interested in implementing this warrant, but we voted in the verkhovna rada for the ratification of the rome statute, and the question is obvious, now it is not only about putin, but also about the military who are on foreign territory, and it is obvious that this rome statute will be used not only by ukrainians, but also against ukrainians, how do you predict the development of events in... kurshchyna in the context of all this? well, in the west, of course, what is happening in kushchyna is being watched very closely, and it is difficult for me to comment. military aspects of this operation, because for this you need to know at least a lot more than it is possible to know, but politically, of course, this operation had a tremendous effect on

the western audience, primarily because it suddenly became clear that the ukrainian army was not losing the war, as many have said for the past six months, even ready to attack, and on the territory of the russian federation, secondly it turned out that the russian border is not so untouched. and all this patheticness and hysteria of putin, when he said there that enemies would never set foot on russian territory, collapsed literally in a week and it turned out that ukraine can calmly enter and conduct military operations on the territory, the attention of a nuclear power, and nothing special happens. of course, this is a very good signal to the partners to remove all the taboos on the use of their military equipment, this is also of course important. but in addition to this, of course, it is also important that western journalists, little by little, get into the territory of the russian

federation, which is controlled by the ukrainian army, and they see with their own eyes how the ukrainian army behaves in the occupied territories, and for sure, what are they comparing this with how the russian army behaved and behaves in the occupied territory of ukraine, and here, of course, there is a very serious contrast. and the ratification of the crimean statute, i do not think that it will directly threaten literally every ukrainian soldier there, but frankly, i would not rush to ratify it, because if you look at the list of countries that have ratified the roman statute and the list countries that, for one reason or another, do not implement it, or have withdrawn their signature there, you will see that... that those countries that found themselves in the epicenters of war, or constantly at war, waging wars, well, such countries as, for example,

different ones, i want to emphasize, such as the united states, such as israel, such as china, such as russia itself, all those countries that have experience with wars, they try not to ratify or enforce this rome statute, not because, well, it matters to some countries and not to others. the importance of these moral aspects, but not in this question, the question is that these countries always first of all protect the interests of their own army, their own military, i.e. the sovereignty of one's own law and the inviolability of one's own military are mandatory for those countries that are waging wars, so i think that ukraine should perhaps be more careful with this statute and simply use it in its own interests, as well as ... used by all other countries, as used by the united states, as even used by russia, attention at the time when they started the aggression, during the aggression

of russia against georgia, attention, they, at the same time, when hostilities were conducted, the country, which does not fulfill any international court at all the russian federation, at the same time, actively used the same criminal court and filed mass lawsuits against the georgian military, so ukraine should treat ... any international norms and laws absolutely pragmatically, that it is beneficial to support it, that it is unfavorable or doubtful, it should be delayed , or not to support. and this is how everyone acts, because any country in the international world must first of all worry about its own interests. if it does not worry about its own interests or the interests of its own army, then it simply disappears from the political map of the world. therefore, in conclusion, i do not think that the ratification of the rome statute will be too much of a threat to the ukrainian army, but... at least if it happens, that it will raise doubts and put in an uncomfortable situation, an unfair, uncomfortable situation, at least one ukrainian military man, this is already

a sufficient reason to think about whether ukraine should re-ratify this rome statute too quickly, it is very good that there is a delay in its implementation, it is good, but we must always understand that among any international norms, the most important norm is the national interest. thank you, mr. serhiy, it was serhiy taran and viktor boberenko, thank you gentlemen for participating in the program, be healthy, and let me remind you that during our broadcast , we conducted a survey, we are your friends, asking whether the moscow church threatens the security of ukraine, so these are the results of our tv poll: 93% yes, 7% no. also, friends, i want to remind you that until august 24 , espresso is preparing a special project called light people in dark times. interesting stories about heroic people, interviews with viktor yushchenko, svyatoslav shevchuk, serhii pluhy and much more. and already at 10 p.m. the documentary film 10 years of war in...

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