has india's neutral position regarding russian aggression in ukraine changed, and how can modi influence the situation? putin's nuclear hysteria. the kremlin dictator is trying to scare the world with the threat of an accident at the kursk nuclear power plant. what does the fire control of the armed forces of ukraine over the station mean and will russian blackmail stop with the help of the zaporizhzhya as. postponed personnel changes in the ukrainian government. zelensky is in no hurry with the announced dismissals and appointments of ministers. what role does the cabinet of ministers play in the system of power, where everything is managed by five or six presidential managers. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko, greetings to everyone. wishes everyone good health.

for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. first of all, i congratulate everyone on the national flag day. tomorrow is independence day, but today indian prime minister narendra modi visited kyiv and brought a peace plan to zelensky, or his vision of a peace plan. about all this, about the visit to rendra modi and about how ukraine is looking for ways to victory. over the russian federation, not only in ukraine, already on the territory of the russian federation, we will talk for the next two hours. we will have two parts of the verdict today. the first part of our program will feature people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy goncharenko, military expert dmytro snigiryov and political expert volodymyr tsibulko. in the second part of our program, which will start in an hour, we will have a journalism club, a traditional journalism club that we hold every friday. kateryna nekrecha, maryna danyliuk,

yarmaleva will be guests of our studio, and that's it wait for their conclusions regarding the main week's events that took place in ukraine and abroad. however, before starting our big conversation today, i suggest you watch a video of how ukrainian fighters struck from the air at a russian platoon base in... gurshchyna was hit with high-precision american bombs, as a result of which the drone control center, radio electronic warfare unit, equipment and up to 40 invaders, watch this great video.

friends, throughout our broadcast we we are conducting a survey, we ask you about the following: will the transition of the parishes of the uoc mp to the ocu be accelerated after the adoption of the law? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you do not have such an unequivocal answer, you can, a separate opinion, you can leave it under the video in the comments, well, if you are watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote for the numbers if you think that after the adopted law the transition of parishes from pcmp to ocu will be accelerated, 0800 211 381, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free of charge, vote at the end of the program , we will sum up the results of this vote, i want to introduce today's first guest, it is... oleksiy goncharenko, people's

deputy of ukraine, president of the committee of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe on migration and refugees. mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you on the day of the national flag. mutually, mr. oleksiy, let's start our conversation with the visit of the prime minister of india, narendra, forgive me, narendra modi, yes, on rendra modi, to kyiv, today, for the first time in... 30 years of independence , modi, the prime minister, let's say, of india , came to kyiv, brought a peace plan, modi himself, after meeting with zelensky, said that a month ago he met with the head of the kremlin, vladimir putin and tried to convince him to stop the war. let's hear what modi said. a month ago, i visited russia and met with putin, i

told him clearly... that problems are not solved on the battlefield. the only way to resolve the conflict is through dialogue and diplomacy. and therefore it is not necessary waste time, you need to move in the direction of victories. mr. oleksiyu, on renderamod he talks about peace, about what peace should be, obviously he talked about it in more detail to zelensky, but considering that he was in a hurry to visit putin, and then came to kyiv, and putin's position is clear , this is a plan, his peace plan, this is a plan for the surrender of ukraine, what kind of plan can the indian prime minister's plan be? "i don't know, i don't want to speculate on coffee grounds here, unfortunately, at the moment i don't know, and frankly, until this visit the prime minister of india by those statements, the results, what i see is more like, you know, modi's attempt to balance his

trip to moscow, to balance it with his visit to kyiv, in any case it's good because.. ." that, well, one of the key world leaders, india is today the number one country in terms of population in the world, a member of the big twenty in terms of economic potential, and of course india is a very large trading partner of russia, and trade with china, india is with by these countries, in the first place precisely with these two countries, and it gives russia the opportunity to continue the war and... to fill the budget and, therefore, to kill us, that is why cooperation with india is very necessary for us, but also for now, well, from what i have seen, it is more such a symbolic protocol visit,

it seems to me, although it is possible that some things were said there that you and i do not know, some messages that were transmitted in one direction or another, although from my point of view. even if we talk about peace, then i strongly doubt that there is at least some space for peace until the end of the war the conclusion, excuse me, of the elections in the united states of america, because putin does not want to talk to ukraine, not to modi, not to the european union and anyone else, putin wants to talk to the usa, there is no one to talk to in the usa yet, well, that is, we can for today ... to state that it was a protocol visit, even a mirror visit, because we remember that when modi was in moscow, then it was the russian federation that struck okhmadite, the kyiv okhmadite, and this whole story, a tragic story in kyiv

unfolded before the eyes of modi, who spoke with putin and modi were reproached that he met with putin at a time when the dictator was making such... such aggressive attacks on the ukrainian capital, how much the economic factor and cooperation between russia and india, how much it is a valid argument even in the current situation for that , in order to force russia to go to some negotiations with ukraine or withdraw troops from ukraine, that is, to what extent india can influence putin. you know, the main question here is how much india wants to influence putin, india, surely india could influence putin, i think that, of course, china has more influence, but india is also a very important trading partner for

russia, but here you have to understand that india also benefits a lot from this trade with russia, and obviously, let's be honest, let's... compare two visits: mody to moscow and mody to kyiv. modi's visit to moscow, his first visit after re-election, is always a landmark. always the first visit counts and he showed. second, that visit, if i'm not mistaken, lasted, i think, two days, something like that. well, he definitely spent the night in moscow. it was not fashionable to spend the night in kyiv. and his visit lasted less than a day in kyiv. well, if you look at trade. between india and russia, or between india and ukraine, well, these are all incomparable things, so whether i am now, you know, i don't want to devalue this visit to you in any way, it's very good that it took place, we still need to start talking with india, i hope , that certain such basements were not laid

today, and it must be developed, the situation will be, well, life does not end tomorrow, and we must develop from... a very important country, it was so in our country on the periphery of ukrainian attention, and ukraine on the periphery of india's attention, and this is not right, but we should expect something from this visit, which is now in vogue . asks putin to stop the war, i do not believe it at all, and i do not think that this can happen. against this background, mr. oleksiy, the kurdish operation of the armed forces of ukraine is unfolding. it is already the third week, the ukrainian army is moving forward, it controls more than 94 settlements, the ukrainian army has 1,200, more than 200, 1,200 k'. already the territory, at the same time we see putin's statements

that the ukrainians seem to want to do something with the kursk eu, and here is the reaction of the head of the magathe, raphael hrus, who stated in an interview with bloomberg that after visiting the kursk as he will go to ukraine and hopes to talk with zelensky, hrus also explained that in why there is a danger of hostilities near this station, let us hear what grossi said. it doesn't have a protective dome around the reactor, just a regular roof, which means that the reactor core is quite open, and when you add to that the fact that there are troops nearby that are advancing, objectively speaking, in range of artillery, then of course it causes great concern to me and to the agencies. mr. oleksiy, can putin go... on a provocation and use russian weapons on the kursk as in order to

accuse the ukrainians of stopping the offensive of the armed forces in korshchyna in this way? putin can do anything, but i think that, well, at least, so far he does not have such a critical situation, if the armed forces of ukraine took control of the kursk as, then, to be honest, you could expect anything there. and we are quite far from kurchatov, where is the course of the cs, so i do not think that today there is such a risk, and after all, they are on the territory of russia, everything is happening, so it is only some kind of extreme and i will already feel it , there may be an operation and a step, so i think that this unlikely, but i repeat, you can expect absolutely everything from putin, but i... i think that here we need to tell us absolutely clearly about money, everyone else, you are worried, well yes, maybe you

will somehow say it is russia that invaded , which captured our zaporozhye nuclear power plant, the largest in europe, which bigger than the kursk and so on, so i wouldn't mind here, look, putin is trying to use the kursk as, so that, well, of course, he will try to do it, as it were, to stop the zsu. money or the world community or something else, well, of course we cannot go to any of these here, and we have the full moral and legal right to do in kursk oblast, as well as in any other city, place in russia, what what we consider necessary, and to what extent we have enough forces for this, the kurdish operation, i will not to evaluate from a military point of view, i am not a military person, but from the point of view... the political and course operation is definitely a huge success for ukraine, this, we again surprised

the world, we again showed the strength of ukraine, and this is very it is important that only the strong are respected in the world, everything else is all talk, and you and i are exactly that, ukraine knows this better than anyone, unfortunately for the world, that all these agreements, budapest memoranda, words, concerns and everything else, everything it is still the armed forces. say their word, then this is complete emptiness, we have shown the strength of the armed forces of ukraine again, and it is very important, it is very important, of course , for us, well, i repeat here, the military, i am sure they know what they have to do, but i can’t help but say it, it is very important for us not to get carried away and not to miss a moment when the price of this will become for us for a big, main thing, i want to remind us here, the enemy 2.5 years ago was horseshoes. took kherson, was near mykolaiv, was near chernihiv, but we kept our armed forces and

the enemy was pushed back from kyiv, chernihiv, mykolaiv, kherson, liberated, and so on. therefore, it is very important for us to preserve the armed forces of ukraine, and even any very cool one, and i repeat, this is a very good and powerful and cool operation, at least political, i think, military too, but for it... there should not be too high a price, because our human resources are limited, especially compared to our enemy, so you have to be very, very careful here. to calculate carefully, well, but i repeat, now i believe that this is definitely a success for ukraine, and concluding this opinion, you know, if in boxing terminology, in our match with russia, it is not a knockout, unfortunately, and it is even so far not a knockdown but it sure is we earned serious points, points, on this,

it was russia who missed a powerful blow. and our western partners, the united states of america, also saw this blow that russia missed, and allowed ukraine to use american weapons during the operation in the kursk region, said sabrina singh, the pentagon's deputy official representative. let's hear what she said. we are beginning to better understand what ukrainians are doing in kursk. our policy allows them to take. participation in such counterattacks, we support ukraine in what it needs on the battlefield, through various presidential aid packages, and that will not change. you know that our policy allows ukraine to fire back to defend itself against russian attacks that it is carrying out through this border region. this border region includes kursk and includes

sumy, so they are defending against russian attacks in that region. at the same time , sing said that in washington they still do not know all the goals of the ukrainian operation in the kursk region and reminded that zelenskyi had previously said that the offensive should create a buffer zone, in addition to a buffer zone that can to be created on the territory of the kurdish region, what other problems did this kurdish operation reveal in the management of russia, mr. oleksiy, well , classic, let's see. here is such a story, you know, theoretically, if it were some other country, the kurdish operation could have upset the russian government, well, because it is an absolute shame, for 80 years, not since the year 44, there has been such a thing that the internationally recognized russian territory was occupied by another country, well , this is a complete shame for putin, who

is trying to pretend that he is not the first in the world, but the second, well, if not the second, then the third. well, can you imagine if some piece of arizona was occupied or some part of china, well, it is simply impossible to imagine in principle, but with russia it turned out to be possible, all this shame with their conscripts, whom putin told that they could not fight will be, and they are fighting, they are being captured en masse there, well , this is definitely another evidence that russia is an empire, but the empire is such a failed empire, really colossal... at their feet, this, this is a fact, and we once again this demonstrated to the world, and i repeat, in another country, this would have led to the fall of power, well, russia will not understand russia with its mind, and here we see that, well, so far the question does not stand, although that too, well, we just do not know at what moment it will all

fall apart, that this structure of the putin regime will fall apart at some point is a fact, but when... like in a day, in a year, in 10 years, in 15 years, only with the death of putin, we cannot answer that question, but we demonstrated the weaknesses of this system, obviously, both for the russians, and for the world, and for ourselves, once again, it is very important that this is such an uplift, well , let's be honest, ukrainians waited for victories, and a very difficult year in which we did not have any successes. such great successes, it was difficult for both ukraine and our allies, so we really needed such certain successes, and we definitely achieved them today. what will happen tomorrow, how will the situation develop, what will happen in 3-4 weeks, this is a war, this is a very dynamic situation, it is very difficult to predict it, i repeat, at this moment russia

missed a powerful blow, will we be able to bring it to at least a knockdown, well, we will try, but will we succeed? or not, not a fact, well, let's hope that we will bring russia to a knockdown when the presidential elections in the united states of america will actually take place, kamala harris, who officially became the candidate for the presidency of the united states of america from the democrats at a pre-election rally, said, who will resolutely support ukraine in the event of her victory, let's listen to the candidate for the presidential seat. trump threatened to abandon nato. he encouraged putin to invade countries that are our allies. he said that russia can - i quote. do whatever she wants. 5 days before the russian attack, i met with president zelensky to warn him about putin's invasion plan. i helped

mobilize more than 50 countries around the world to defend against russian aggression, and as president, i will stand firmly with ukraine and our nato allies. mr. oleksiy, this is a serious statement. malis about the fact that she will stand by ukraine and our nato allies, despite the fact that i understand that she will not a simple conversation was with zelenskyi, she remembers, 5 days before the big offensive, this means, probably, the munich security conference, but it is definitely about her, by the way, i just saw the aris camel twice in person, and both times at the munich security conference security conference, so yes, well, it's definitely good for... especially against the background of other statements that are coming from other american politicians, let's say, well, but we can only

observe here, we are observers in this situation, we are waiting for who will chosen by the american people in november, no matter who is elected, it is very important for us to build relations, and by the way, the elections will be very important, we talk a lot about the presidential elections, the congressional elections will be very important. the senate there is also a huge intrigue, who will control the lower house, who will control the upper house, and all this is of great importance, so definitely after the elections in the usa there will be such a definite fork, this will be a moment that will determine what will happen next , because whoever wins this election, the us policy on this war is for sure will change because kamal harris is not joseph biden. and what those changes will be, that is, either she wins or trump, but politics will change, and how it changes, what position the united

states of america will take, a lot will depend, this is the reality, because without american support, well, it will be so that, well , it is extremely difficult for us, i say this so gently, so as not to say more, so a lot depends on this, well, we will monitor the progress of the presidential campaign. in the united states of america on september 10, let me remind you, there will be a televised debate between trump and harris, and let's see what the dynamics of this election and this election campaign will be. thank you, mr. oleksii, for the conversation, it was oleksii goncharenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we continue to work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, please join us. polls, and we are asking you today whether the transition of the uocp parish to the ocu will be accelerated after the adoption of the law, refers to the law on religious organizations

adopted by the verkhovna rada of ukraine. so, on youtube, everything is quite simple: yes, no, or your separate opinion, which you leave in the comments under this video. if you're watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on 0800 211 381 if you think the resolution is up. the law will speed up the transition of pcmp parishioners to ocu. no 0800 211-382. all calls to these numbers are free. vote at the end of the program , we will sum up the results of this vote. further dmytro snighir, a military expert, co-leader of the public initiative right to the right, is on our air. mr. dmitry, i congratulate you. thank you for being with us today. good evening, thank you for the invitation. well, first of all, let's talk about the situation in kurshchyna. not so often the general staff reports details of how the situation develops and what the dynamics are in the kurdish

direction, but 93 populated areas and 1,260 km controlled by the ukrainian army, what does this dynamic of the offensive of ukrainian troops on the territory of the russian federation indicate? the first is about awareness of ukraine. regarding the plans of the russian military command, i explain what we are talking about, information was received regarding the formation of an invasion contingent of the suja tactical group on the borders with the sumy region, accordingly , information was received regarding the further plans of the russian command, regarding a direct retreat on the territory of ukraine and a repetition of the kharkiv scenario with with the aim of stretching the front line and distraction. operational reserves of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine for this section of the front, moreover there was talk of withdrawing operational reserves from the most dynamic areas of the front, namely

donets. direction, so when they are currently talking about the fact that operational reserves have been introduced into the kursk region, and they are doing it with a reasonable face, i would like to note that the war has been transferred to the territory of the occupying country, and combat operations are not being conducted in the sumy region, and the ukrainian military is currently take control of the populated areas on the territory of the russian federation, or it is not located near sumy, the distance from... the dezhkord to sumy is 30 km about the nature of the military operations of the defense forces of ukraine, but the demo goes on to show what this shows about the low morale and fighting spirit of the regular units of the armed forces of the russian federation, the so -called contract soldiers, conscripts, border guards of the fsb, etc. currently, according to the information of western intelligence

, four are concentrated on the territory of the sumy region. to six brigades of the armed forces of ukraine, and here the attention, and nine brigades of the armed forces of the russian federation oppose them even before entering the territory of the russian federation, i.e. and it is said that the defense forces of ukraine are advancing with half the number of personnel, and that three of them are, accordingly, already of an operational nature of advancement, taken under control. 1,300 km of russian territory, and it is worth mentioning that according to the military statute, the attacking side should have an advantage in terms of personnel in a ratio of 3:1, that is, for nine russian brigades that are currently in defense, the defense forces of ukraine had would concentrate 27 brigades, no one is talking about it, and why are they not talking,

question. what is currently happening in kursk oblast is the expansion along the flanks of the presence zone, that is, the creation of a buffer zone, call it a sanitary zone, a security zone, as you like, but currently the width of this security zone is 40 km, at the beginning it was 10 km, it is accordingly again , the operational nature of the successes of the armed... forces of ukraine and the main thing that we should talk about, and say it out loud: the russian side is currently forced to withdraw its own operational reserves for the creation of bryansk and belharad tactical groups for cover sections of the russian-ukrainian border, that is , these units of the regular troops of the russian army will not go to ukraine, but will, accordingly, perform the functions of forces for the time being. coverage, this is

another success of the defense forces of ukraine, and it is also worth noting that at the last meeting with the security forces and governors of the border regions, the russian dictator stated that the governor of the bryansk region should be ready to repeat the scenario of the kurdish region, that is, if this is announced on higher official level, then accordingly it is already certain moods in the top military-political leadership of the russian federation, and the most important thing is that... we have to understand that, according to the russian side, they approach it more realistically in relation to the further plans of the defense forces of ukraine and the possibility, accordingly, of the russian side to release, as they call these territories, that's how they call the period from six months to a year, the war will be fought throughout this period, i emphasize once again

on the territory. federation, what is currently happening in the kursk region is positive, three main e-bridges, which were used to locate units of the armed forces of the russian federation, were eliminated, and in fact up to 3,000 personnel of the russian troops were in an operational environment, and the movement of reserves, the transportation of bc, the removal of the wounded is possible only... either by pontoon crossings or, respectively the price of watercraft, taking into account that the pontoon crossing was covered by hymar with a cluster warhead, we can say that the russians will have to overcome this a water, natural obstacle, and the defense forces of ukraine actually got a line of defense, natural, which the russians will have quite a while to overcome...