a person who did not just communicate with putin, he came home, ate borscht, in my opinion, even, and you said a very good phrase that money made him stupid, that is, material things ceased to have any meaning for him, he obviously decided to go down in history , i am interested in your opinion on how to stop him, and therefore all of russia, and whether there is, whether this understanding reaches the world leaders, here is this individual, as the late kozlovsky vyaz said... and the writer, he said that this to a greater extent now an infernal personality, what is putin? of course, i cannot speak neutrally about putin, i say evil, i say it as revenge, a reasonable person cannot behave like this in these circumstances, to which he made the country to go, i think that in 25 years he himself gave birth. a successful project for russia, how

to destroy such a country as russia, and i am convinced that one of the formats of victory in today's war is not only how to reach the mykhailivskyi farm with ukrainian troops and stop there, it is not about that , if we leave evil which is called putin, and with him putin's russia, fascist russia. where putin is fed as energy by 145 million little putins, and this is the beginning of the source of putinism, this is the blessing they give. yes, if we stop at khutor mykhailivski, it will be a big mistake. i don't want to say in the sense that we should physically remind of the green wedge, the crimson wedge, the yellow wedge. about the gray

wedge, about the ukrainian taganrog, about the ukrainian bilhorod, the ukrainian kuban, well, in one word, i wanted a whole series of territories to name the most extreme, where the ukrainian presence, it is centuries-old, centuries-old, this is not what we are talking about now, we are not talking about this dimension of geography, we are talking now, if europe, if... the west does not understand that there can be no victory, putin's regime continues to exist, that there is no negotiation process, when president putin is sitting in one of the chairs, this is the first sign that you have lost, that you are providing some kind of power supply... mulyad,

you don't need him. i'm talking about the portuguese or the germans or the french you don't need it. he will pick you up tomorrow. in what form? let's not guess now, i just want to say one thing that today, if you haven't solved the topic of security, you haven't solved any of the issues that are on your agenda . and security is such a thing that knows no borders, regardless of whether you are 600. and therefore, it is obvious that the world today has a big task, how to correctly formulate the definitions of getting out of the war brought by putin. i just want to emphasize one thing, so that no no, not there, not to give rise to any prejudicial discussion, the presence of putin on any...

the presence of the need for putin's signature on behalf of the prison people does not give the answer to our victory, it should not be left for tomorrow, and then we quietly approach the thoughts that, i think, are very underestimated in today's world, i am afraid, or i am wary, that the syndrome we experienced in the 90s, when the president of the united states arrives from the rostrum of the parliament, they say in the 93rd year that ukrainians, you do not dare to create sovereignty, and george bush, from whom everyone expected support, absolutely, on the streets of kyiv for three months there have been many thousands of rallies for independence.

the president of the largest democratic country comes and says: you wouldn't think of doing that, you wouldn't think of me, and i'm sorry that he drove to kyiv then after moscow or to moscow. in any case, it was a visit on the way, i know that the speech he gave in the verkhovna rada, on the way from the airport to leonid makarovich, did he give theses or verbally what he wanted to say, yes it seems, as i agreed with leonid makarovich, as the head of the verkhovna rada, well , in a word, i have a heavy feeling that today the world has stopped... the european one, including at the crossroads, if tomorrow after the end of this war we see in in the bosom of russia, in the russian model,

in its presence on this political field, i think that we are making a huge mistake, a huge mistake, we are taking that time-out, and today what putin needs most is to then come to the borders of poland, slovakia , bulgaria, and continues to do that evil the matter for which he saw the russian mission, when, you know, on the same question, where does russia end, where, where are its borders, from peter the first we hear such a... historical anthology that the borders of russia are where they end her interests, good wording, then putin's wording of the 2000s, or rather it was in 2006,

at one of the language conferences they and his wife expressed the reports that were written in the kremlin, and she voiced them. russia ends there, guys, where the russian language ends, putin has been spending the last three months optional history is on duty, and there he asks the boy, seven or eight years ago, where the borders of russia end, and that boy is trying to remember geography, to name something correctly, children. borders, he goes to him, smooth heads, and if he saves him from this impasse, and gives advice to the drunken russian nation, remember, russia

has no borders, that's how you are going with this philosophy, it's not a joke, well as the president, the president of the country exits, every word, it is official and... he says that his state, which occupies 1/8, which leads to today, maybe 10 wars, maybe even more, well, count in africa, how many wars there are, count africa, count the caucasus, count eastern europe, and this is a country that is a member of the united nations, the highest security organization in the world, chaired the council security, member, permanent member of the security council. this is a country, an aggressor, this is a country where its leader is recognized as an international criminal, at every step in europe there are photographs, a criminal is wanted, putin and so on and so on, and we live in such a world, this is a country that has not formally passed,

even formal acceptance into the membership of the united nations organization, well, listen, it's amazing what kind of world this is, so this is what i 'm leading to, that from... no one can get used to the answer with such a russia, sit down with him for negotiations today, this means that munich will repeat in the 38th year. do you remember when chamberlain flew in, waved one piece of paper and said, i brought you a measure while you were walking, i worked diplomatically, great, i brought you a measure, do the same thing, i said there in france, and here we are now standing, listen, we need red lines, we need to listen that this executioner of nations prisons of peoples, speak, warns, this is a territory where under the cover of colonialism more than 100 indigenous peoples live, where

every two years someone's native language dies, listen, we are in a terrible world, in fact, and that's why when in... europe they try to form some kind of tolerance, that it is possible to make an agreement with this evil for several years, this is a very wrong policy, this... side ukraine gives you an example of how to fight for your sovereignty, for your independence, how to actually be the armored car of europe. how can, in other words, to enter the territory of the country of the aggressor and force putin to read something from a piece of paper with trembling hands, gathering his generals, not knowing what to do, it turns out, yes, it was possible, here again, not understanding what it would lead to, but we understand that ukraine sometimes shows, just such an example to your words that europe does not know what

to do with putin, but at one time in the battle of pyregamelas, alexander the great showed what could be done with the persian empire by destroying the army that was tenfold more. napolon did not succeed in destroying the world of empires, but the world of empires collapsed 100 years after napolon, that is, now, without taking a certain step, we will simply drag it out in time, then there can be, absolutely, paragraph number one: do not look for a partner in putin, he. .. never will be, he is a speculator who will use today's historical position to knock on your door tomorrow, and so be wiser, although it is harder to do, certainly the things we say that the answer is how to democratize russia , i don't have her i find in the answer that one ideal democratic force will come, i... which is now supported by 144 million russians, i take this as a conditional figure,

there is no such force and there never will be, in the regime of a dictatorship this force very well feeds putin, his power and his junta, the trouble of russia. by the way, not only is it possible in russia, putin's evil triumphs not only because there are so many in russia and it is so strong, what we call evil, i think in the formula of putin's existence the strongest point is that in russia is mostly indifferent, and they are indifferent automatically. close with evil, and it, and it triumphs, and it is because of indifference,

you know, when you, when you go out on the tver boulevard and stand like that near the monument to the ukrainian prince dolgoruky, you are arrested, when today we talk about the world that is information , where... billions of megabytes of memory are exchanged in the blink of an eye, more than 1,000 journalists in russian prisons, several thousand political prisoners at all levels, local and up to the highest, this is a country that lives among us, how are you going to arrange your future with such inhumans, in general, or don't you feel the danger with this indifference that exists in russia, which is brought up as a political system, not a single state

institution works there, there is no parliament, neither the upper house, nor the lower house, it is a printer that will issue you with any regulations until the evening, any, open a new war, 15 minutes later the document is already signed by putin, any. evil, it will be on such a scale that the community, whether political or in the middle of the country, or in europe or in the world, will have no way to stop it. sooner or later we want to approach that such a political structure with such leadership, which exists today in russia, does not have a green light for its existence in the world, there is none. sooner or later, rather at the most inconvenient time , there will be a knock on your door and they will say that what you

slept on two years ago, 3 years ago, evil, what you slept on, what you did not decide and acted inadequately, here it is now there is a knock on your door, and you are poles, or you are german, or you are french, you will give an answer that you did not give 5 years ago, in fact, an awakening. is obviously if you if you will you remember, in the 22nd year, how french president macron spoke with putin for 16 hours, it was simply a miracle. this is one of the leaders of europe, calling a criminal who started a new world war, what are you asking him, what are you begging him for? well, at the beginning of the conversation, put a healthy analysis, will he release the territories he occupied after your call? no,

will his plan to escalate new territories change? no. what is the purpose of your calls, are the elections of chancellor scholze taking place, and in one of the interviews, the first interviews, he says that germany will not give ukraine, as if the question was, and what germany will not give ukraine, no, the question was, but what germany will give ukraine, so katzler began by devoting 2/3 of his speech to the fact that germany will not give that, that he won't give, he won't give, he won't give, that 's it, yes, and what germany will give, at the end of the speech he says, germany will give 500 helmets and 2,500 sex bags with a red cross, yes, that's exactly what happened, now listen to the chancellor

scholz, he rips putin, and even on people... equals without any patience, he uses the most profound characteristics of order, actions, gestures. listen today to, uh, french president macron. as a person, after all these scenarios, how to modernize the world, how to learn to respond to the disaster that russia brings, come to... the concept of a new european security and defense policy, along with nato, when the president of the united states america said that the europeans should rethink their attitude to the formation of nato resources. in parallel, europe is coming to the point that, along

with nato, you must have your own author's a project that gives an answer to... to the rapid security of europe, and where in ukraine, one of the most interesting places is allocated, and where, by the way, the european union commission is currently working on the first european security project, and the second commission, as respond to the challenges that china and the united states of america bring to the european economic market. in this way, i conclude that today we are witnessing the reinterpretation of many statutes. relations, and perhaps russia has reached its lowest point during the 25 years of putin's reign points of disrespect for itself, and for the politics it forms. i can definitely testify that

you will not find russia in the first row of countries that shape the politics of europe or the world. i think they are. it is not there in the second either, it is, you know, a bolonochka, on which water, we will not name the leaders of other countries, and no more, and no more, the most dependent colonial state that exists today, with those unique opportunities, in russia are concentrated more than 40 % of the world's wealth of resources, i have two blitz questions and one a little broader so that we we had time, because here in... we are already talking about ukraine and its prospects. blitz of questions, well, you know, you need to dispel myths, some, don’t ask, i won’t ask about nuclear weapons, because those documents were not signed in your time, but many people say so, well, that’s a common story, but it was necessary pressed in 2008 at the nato summit, and we would have been accepted into nato, then

a number of countries gained membership there, there was expansion, and if very... briefly, why then, i understand that it did not depend on ukraine there, remember putin, on that, his words, we remember that ukraine is not even a state, but why then, or what they said, here's what they said to you, that is, you won't be able to catch the conditional chancellor of the federal republic of germany there or someone else to say, well, come on , and how they argued, as if, well, they don't threaten you, well, what do you want? well, let's start with '94, the '94 memorandum, i think, in terms of the mission. for the world , with its step, ukraine marked the end of the cold war, or as it is called the third war. i think that then

the leadership of ukraine treated the mission of guaranteeing ukraine's security within the framework of the signed with extremely high respect. document, there are two direct points in the document that testify to the creation of a full guarantee of your territorial integrity and political sovereignty, and under this document is the signature of the president of the united states, the president of france, britain, the chairman of the people's assembly of china, one can say, the entire nuclear club. from the position of 1994, you can read that listen, there is no such document, such weight state of the world, except for ukraine, why in this

way, because now it is possible to analyze, so analytically already, and why tactical weapons were not carried out long ago, were not noses limited there. pits and so on, why did ukraine act the way it did and sign this memorandum. my short answer, we were one on one then, we were not supported by russia, obviously, in the way that ukraine would like to see the tools of ukrainian security formation, we were not supported by the united states. because the general task is the third nuclear the arsenal must be dismantled, and this united the united states and russia, and it made it possible

to connect the other three members of the nuclear club of the world, and when it was necessary to form even a constitutional period of relations, whether in the 14th year or in the 22nd year, we it was very difficult to form a round one. consultation table with our guarantors, and to this day, by the way, these five have never sat down at the table, well five, not five, but four have never sat down, eh at the table, and it's mine view made for the safety of the security policy of the world, a very unpleasant fact. history, i don't know how the world will talk, for example, with the north korean leadership about denuclearization, when the time comes, or with iran, or with iran, or with

pakistan, or with the three countries that we can already talk about today , that the fact is most likely, and that they possess nuclear fission, how to talk to them, what is the argument? the nuclear world, the nuclear club will lead them, when there is an example of ukraine, which sincerely and openly accepted the proposals of the nuclear club and suffered, by the way, the question, this war, speaking, in your opinion, is an agreement today, i don't know at what level or through what channels, that it will not be completed in any case with the use of nuclear weapons, this very war that was unleashed by russia, well at least... now ukraine is directly involved in it as an adversary the aggressor the assessment of the risk of nuclear conflict of the nuclear factor by temperature is cooling, cooling,

cooling, and the world is increasingly coming to understand that, well, actually, the first sign of the death of putin, putin is a sign of his use of anything from the nuclear arsenal. this is a war with... with the whole world, this is his personal death and the end of this war, and today about these red lines somehow and not everyone understands where they pass, and that is actually at the end, to put such a final point and already , because there are still many questions, unfortunately, there is no time, the formula of taras hryhorovych, whom you have repeatedly mentioned, fighting to fight today is a really valid formula, and it is obviously... what ukrainians should wish for today. it definitely is. for the ukrainian part, the most important part of the answer to our victory,

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