that communication problems are an important matter, especially in matters of legislation. two points: first, two points: first, you are right that it is necessary to start structurally at the level of historical authorities, to establish a true, fact-based common state of affairs, if it is a question of historiography, only this will take time. i would very much like to appeal to the ukrainian side, regarding the exhumation, not to wait for the moment when we reach an agreement on historical issues, because in poland there are several hundred thousand families, or several hundred thousand individuals, who still very often have in the unknown places of the graves of ancestors, from those forties in volyn and not only in volyn, and i think that it is such a human need to have a consecrated coffin, whether in ukraine or in poland, of those relatives, and this also greatly

helped the ukrainian- polish relations, because in the absence of that organized and civilized method of exhumation , our nationalists also speculate: oh, you see, ukraine, we help her so much, and she does not even agree to such things. so, once again, we divide the dialogue of historians, which is necessary until it ends in success, because the difference between them the vision is less and less, now there are fewer emotions, it is more possible to think about it truthfully. and real. let's separate the assessments of history from the fastest possible completion of the process of exhuming the victims of those terrible times. you know, i also think that the experience of the closeness of poles and ukrainians in recent years, because really almost every polish family received guests in 2022, some for a couple of weeks, some for several months, and others still have ukrainian women and children as guests. i hosted 13 ukrainian women with children in my two houses near poznań. lady from zaporizhzhia

returned in july-august 2022, and this also brought us closer in such a human, personal sense. i hope that through this experience we will solve various other difficult things. będziemy mogli tež inne įvky, trudne spravy to solve. we are, as they say, in ukraine, god forbid, and as soon as possible. thank you very much, mr. posle. i would like to remind our tv viewers that martin bosatskyi, a member of the polish diet, the head of the polish-ukrainian parliamentary group, was currently working on spresso. well, our program time is up. thank you for being with espresso tv channel and stay. my colleagues have prepared a lot of extremely important and interesting programs with us, so we will.

to a large extent watch together, once again i congratulate you on the day of ukrainian independence. thank you for being with us, i congratulate everyone on the independence day of ukraine, thank you for this day . to the armed forces, the espressoo team continues the bright people in dark times marathon, anna yavomelnyk is with you, and i will start with the long-awaited news. it has just become known about the exchange of prisoners of war between russia and ukraine. 115 people returned from russian captivity. the united arab emirates acted as mediators. all details will be announced later.

issues today, the ukrainian military struck the russians for the first time with the new palyanitsa weapon, president volodymyr zelenskyi said during the independence day celebrations. the head of state did not specify where exactly the drone missile was used, but he emphasized that the occupiers will neither be able to resist this weapon nor pronounce its name. today was the first... combat use of our new weapon, a completely new class of weapon of the ukrainian polyanytsia drone missile. this is a new one our method of retaliation by the aggressor. the enemy was hit. i thank everyone who made this possible, all the developers, manufacturers and our warriors.

volodymyr zelenskyy awarded the military rank of general to commander-in-chief oleksandr syrskyi, and the president also awarded the chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine anatoly bargalevich the rank of general. lieutenant, and the title of major general, the head of state assigned to andrii hnatov. prime minister of lithuania ingrid šimonite visited kyiv. she noted that she is looking forward to celebrating the victory in the ukrainian crimea and mariupol, as well as in nato cities, donetsk and luhansk. shemonita reminded of the inevitable punishment for those who committed crimes against ukraine. lithuania was and will be with ukraine. the victory of light over darkness, the victory of good over evil, the victory of free people, which we will celebrate together, with light, with gas and without russia, glory to ukraine,

dozens of greetings today ukraine also receives from our partners, the main theses are western. aid will not stop, and ukraine is clearly seen among the countries of the european union. in your brave fight against the russian brutal aggression, we will continue to support you as long as necessary. you are part of our european family, and we look forward to the day when ukraine takes its place as a member of the european union. i salute you and wish you continued strength. on the day when you celebrate another year of ukrainian independence, the eu is on your side like never before, because in the eu, we all know that you fight bravely for your future, you fight for your land and for your children, but we also we know that you are fighting for what we have in common

future. together we share a common vision of the future based on peace, democracy and european values. happy independence day, ukraine. ukraine has officially ratified the rome statute. volodymyr zelensky signed the law: the rome statute is an international treaty that established an international criminal court that investigates war crimes. in particular, aggression, genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes. ratification will make it possible to more effectively hold the russians accountable for their actions on the territory of ukraine. let me remind you, our state signed the rome statute back in january 2000. but only this year, on august 21, the council supported the ratification. one person died, five others were injured as a result of shelling in kherson. among them is a baby. the boy was hospitalized with mine-explosive injuries to his limbs. four more people are in intensive care,

roman mrochko, the head of the city's military administration, said. the russians hit the dnipro and ship's districts of the city. one of the shells hit the house. emergency services are on site. five people died, as many were injured as a result of the enemy shelling of kostyantynivka in donetsk region, the russians hit the city in the morning, the wounded were hospitalized, the head of the regional military administration, vadym filashkin, announced. spressa tv channel and the vesna charitable foundation opened a fundraiser for the purchase of modern drones and electronic warfare systems for the third separate storm brigade of the 110th and 47th brigades of the armed forces of ukraine. the defenders in the donetsk direction every day hold back enemy attacks, defend for... freedom and the future, it was these soldiers who stood to the last and defended the avdiiv direction in the spring. brigades urgently need drones and modern means of countering enemy drones. our goal is uah 3.5 million. remember, each of your donations brings our victory closer. you can see all the details on the screen. in lviv

, the memory of the fallen heroes of ukraine was commemorated at the lychakiv cemetery and the field of mars. more than a thousand people, soldiers, veterans, public figures and families of participants in the russian-ukrainian war and heroes of the heavenly hundred united in a joint prayer for those who gave their most valuable lives for our independence. to the graves of the fallen people carried flowers and lit lamps to the defenders. i came to the fallen soldier, my relative and family friend, to pay my respects and remember that our independence was won at such a price... and therefore we must not forget not only on such a day as independence day, in every time come to pay tribute to heroes, not only acquaintances, but simply to all heroes who gave their lives so that we live, we must pay

tribute to them, because they gave their lives so that we live, happily, our children , grandchildren, they fought because of that, i think that this... cares for them to be honored not only on major holidays, but every day and to remember their feat about themselves. until the meeting at 15. the unsurpassed lesya vakulyuk and andriy saichuk will continue aterso. dear friends, here we are back and continuing our holiday marathon on the espresso tv channel. dedicated to ukraine's independence day, bright people in dark times, that's what we called it, because it's about those

people who light the way of ukraine, who make it better, and during this day you watch stories about those who are currently defending our independence, about those who contributed to the fact that ukraine was independent, and this is not only in the 91st year, because our struggle for this independence continues, so be with us throughout this day, at 10 p.m., i will remind you.. . that this day will end with a documentary about 10 years of war, which is dedicated to the most important events in the recent history of ukraine, which tells about the beginning of our ten-year struggle for dignity until today, and these are stories, the history of ukraine through the personal stories of a public activist. roman ratushny, his mother, activist poet svitlana povalyaeva, politician and journalist tetyana chornovol, paramedic yulia paevska. dear friends, i also want to thank you and give a little summary of our today's compilation. thank you

for responding, today, during the morning hours of our presence on the channel, you broke a record, at least this week's record, you and i collected 62,000, and we are actually very close to closing the three hundred and second million. now it's up to you on the screens you see the qr code and that. for which we collect photos of photos of drones and rap systems, take your phones in your hands now, point your cameras at this qr code and transfer as much as you don't mind, all this will go for three brigades, three brigades, a third separate assault, 110, 47, which are currently on the hot spots, in kharkiv, pokrovsky, this is what we know, and they need your and our help, and if you want to celebrate this independence day, you don't know how, then donate to our army, which actually this independent and defends with arms in hand, it is the best a gift actually for this holiday, and

a small action that makes our country stronger, so please join, you will also see this qr code during our conversations in the corner of the screen, don't ignore, it's the same assembly, unfortunately there is no card number, if you don't know how to scan a qr code, just take a picture of the tv screen now and then show it to someone, give him paper hryvnias, that's all... you're not sorry, let him transfer from his card to this account, well, at the end of our broadcast with andrii, we will sum up, and of course we will thank you to you, because without you this assembly would not move, in total we have to collect 3.5 million. ivan franko, i already quoted him today, he said that our patriotism should not be loud, not shouting, actually silent and effective, and it can be like this... that you, in particular, do something every day for victory, and even this contribution is small, it is something that everyone

can do, we are already with ivan tymochko, head of the council of reservists of the land forces of the armed forces of ukraine, sir, we congratulate you, congratulations, glory to ukraine, glad to see you, congratulations on the holiday, glory to the heroes, today we have our guests, with whom we talk, talk and remember, how they remember the 91st year, when ukraine won nezale. do you remember what your memories are? i still had a school childhood at that time, of course, as far as i remember then, i myself was still alive then, born in a small carpathian village in the naskolov region, and such trends were already somewhere understood, realized, besides this, this is the carpathian region, this is the region of the upa , of the rebel army, because there were still living witnesses of those events, my grandfather, and myself from the family. those whom were released by the liberators, unfortunately, to siberia,

even my father was born there at one time, so i knew not from hearsay, of course, that for me it was not so incomprehensible, unconscious, that's how i saw how adults around me somewhere on that time, actually there was a certain feeling, you know, a feeling on the one hand of some kind of fori, on the other of misunderstanding, apprehension, expectation of what was to happen, but you know... in fact , older people said then, as they had already said then, that independence was not just like that, she will still be washed with blood, watered, and it surprised me. because then it seemed that it could, because i was a child who did not understand, but it seemed that such a horror, as we now see already in adulthood, unfortunately, no one expected, this is true, but on the other hand, it is good that we did not were confused when faced with such a challenge, fought back and are fighting back, and if we can consider independence day as one of the days

of the stages of independence, we can consider the 91st year, well, it is in fact. and every century we had such a chance to gain independence from the age-old one and the same enemy, but now we really have every opportunity and in order to turn this bad trend or this long-term situation in one's own direction and change history again for several centuries in one's favor, you know, many of the participants, contemporaries of those events of 1991. 90-89, they say that the current war is to some extent postponed the war of 91, because it could have started there at that time, already then, because it was very careful, for example, the ukrainian war then position regarding crimea, regarding the black sea fleet, and i remember this video by yaroslav kendzer and another

groups of deputies, brothers burned, everyone went there , then the parliamentary delegation to sevastopol met. with the leadership of the black sea fleet and they told them directly on camera that we took an oath in some of your ukraine, we took an oath to the soviet union and moscow, and if you insist, things can go differently now, and i don't know if we they did well, that then the generation transferred to the next generation the solution of this issue. you know, each generation has its own claim to... the other and vice versa, i remember when we were there young, yes, 18, there are 20, even up to 30, this is the older generation, which, as you say, did not radically resolve the issue with crimea and russia in general at that time, they believed that they had borne a great burden, they took upon themselves the period of ruin, collapse, these

difficult times, the formation of ukraine as such with the economic challenges, and they looked at us and said that you... will grow up, what kind of generation will you be, well, you all live there in some ways, but just our generation took the brunt of the war, so it is, and that each generation does not finalize or decide, if it decides, it is a positive for the next generation, if it comes, if it does not decide, unfortunately, it is a joint responsibility and to bear the burden, because we will also be the previous generation for our children and grandchildren, definitely just a generation, for example, bander... this was a generation that was offended by their parents, because they believed that they were not decisive enough, they wanted, they wanted to really fight for ukraine, but for the most part they considered themselves doomed, but they understood that their sacrifice will actually give the opportunity for us to work effectively, we do not feel doomed now, we do everything to make the occupier feel doomed, this is a big difference, the question is whether this

generation that grew up in a completely pacifist country, it, it... understands that now is happening and ready to pay this sacrifice for this independence, well, for example, i am now watching the press, the day before yesterday they published the material of their military correspondent samia kolops, actually the author of books, and she has been to iraq, and to syria and everywhere, and she was now in the pokrovsky direction, and she talked with the 110th brigade of the 47th brigade with the battalion commander, whom she does not name, it is true, but these are exactly the ones for whom we are currently collecting money, they are now actually in this direction, and here are just some i was very impressed by the quotes, it refers to the new, newly mobilized, who have passed a month of training and now find themselves on this, on this, on this section of the front, well, it is clear

why, probably because they are more prepared units who are now conducting an offensive on the kurshchyna, but what happening, that is... they they say that the russian offensive is primarily due to the fact that these new recruits cannot stop him, they are simply afraid, they are not ready, and here, well, some people simply do not want to shoot, they see the enemy in the sighting range, in the trenches , but they don't open fire, and that's why our people are dying, said a frustrated combatant of the 47th brigade, when they don't... weapons, it's ineffective, others there say from the 110th brigade that, what they're afraid of, in they panic, and they simply abandon their positions, the main problem is the survival instinct of the new arrivals before that, people could stand until the last moment and hold their positions. now, even if there is light shelling of their positions, they

immediately run away - said a soldier of the 110th brigade. so, well, there is such a moment, i don't know how, what i want to say now on this festive day, i want to say, first of all, whether we have enough. one month of training, because i know, i don't know a person who would go through a month of training now and say that this is enough, but i don't know such a person, and the second point, well, there is a really huge problem with the demotivation of people who do not want to mobilize, that is, those dodgers, those dodgers, all those dodgers that exist, i understand, i too, i also have my own conflict of interests, because i am still 40... only eight years old, me too is of draft age, i am sitting here in the studio in lviv, but i am talking about the fact that maybe we need to understand what is wrong,

because everyone has their own reasons, eh, you and i, you know, we hear more the voices of the extreme polar sides times, and we hear somewhere the opinion of individual persons, i do not say that it is separate, absolutely, this is how they express the opinion of certain groups, but above all, new recruits, old recruits, they all have one thing in common: they gained, are gaining and will continue to gain experience, those who are even trained, trained, they too were once newly recruited, once i was also newly recruited, and many others, was there fear, of course, there is and will be fear, eh, the question, the question of motivation, no, not motivation, here the question is to defeat the instinct of self-preservation , to effectively carry out the task, in the war everyone's instinct of self-preservation. what, what now muscovites? they have, for example, they have a problem to the fact that they recruited a lot of people for a lot of money, from that outback, that they are paid several thousand dollars there, they go to war, because for them it is really a lot of

money, they now have a boom in consumer loans, because they took that money, right there , they borrowed something, took an apartment, a car and went to fight in debt, but what do the commanders say, they go to fight, but they don’t really want to die, it’s such a surprise, because you see, you and i can be here well again i say, there is a lot to discuss, the thing is how the state approached to the education of its citizen, or the state-citizen interaction, in russia there is an instinct for self-preservation, some kind of passion was broken in the country before the war, there it is broken from birth, that is why there are police institutions, that is why it is a dictatorship, that is why there are many deaths, many ways to kill public demonstratives and not so much, from beginners to banal beheadings and so on. that's why this country was formed like this, we were still formed, we formed ourselves, we built ourselves in the european style, so we, but we do not forget that we are post-colonial

country, and the traces of post-colonialism occur, this is also a natural process, britain, france still have signs of the colonialism of the roman empire in their time, this is how, unfortunately, it happens, the persistence is certain , there is a consequence, everything is interconnected, the question is. .. only a metropolis or a colony, the country that made us, that was the center of colonialism, yes, affects our society as a whole, we have problems, there are challenges, but to the full extent, or let's say, to the extent that for russia's influence on us was not critical, but it is problems, no one will object here, you need to work with such people, that is why there are psychologists in units, for this there are also... deputies for moral and psychological support, for this the sergeant's staff, for this the combat coordination is carried out, because even new trainees who come from training centers, in parts they also

go through reconciliation, the question is whether it is a month, or two, or how many, well, these are still the standards of military training, they are not some, let’s say, unique in ukraine, there are conditions for training a serviceman in the times martial law, in times of peace, that is , this was the preparation at the time. of the reserve, it is that we, let's say, those who were passionate about the reserve, we always emphasized that there cannot be only the core of the reserve of 200-300 thousand, everyone has to undergo training, but there were a lot of complaints in society at that time , because people did not want to go out of their comfort zone in the least, now, unfortunately, when there is a large-scale war, a large number of people have to go out of their comfort zone, let's, let's just let's modify the situation, i'm not just simple. let's imagine a bad scenario, can it be done today? the first is always done from a bad scenario. let's imagine a bad scenario, that our troops are stuck in a rut and

they will not be able to quickly switch to another for. the front's main reserves, the enemy now manages to fail, for example, near pokrovsky, and they literally fail the front and very quickly advance to zaporizhzhia and the dnipro, just simulates the situation that is happening at this moment in the country, zaporizhzhia has the lowest percentage in ukraine, it seems people who are ready to defend their city with weapons in their hands, you are talking about what to do with those people who were caught somewhere on the street, or brought a summons to work, and they have already found themselves. i understand that, i do, but i'm talking about something else, what do we have globally with motivation, what do we have, is there a global understanding of why we need to protect this country and for whom is this country, just what am i leading to? president zelenskyy talks about unity more than anything, in principle, i don't listen to his speeches, because it's every day, but it's like you know, it was like that with karl marx, or with lenin at the level of anecdotes, you could make

any quote and say that it is a quote from lenin. and somewhere there in some 1500 volume, it must have been so, and so here, that is, he is 100% talking now again about unity, and the simple question is what is unity, so we make some public statements, they push someone away, discourage someone, and we do not public actions that repel almost everyone, except for those who are united in the very scheme of those things, and it seems to me that it is time for us to talk about what this country should be, for what country people are ready... to die, because we ask people to go and die for some country, we should not die for the country, we should fight, give every chance to die to the enemy, if the end result of our activities is death award, this is a wrong approach, i believe that this is an approach that leads nowhere, in fact, you said correctly, to build ukraine for us, our future, as in life, as a process, and on this, this is precisely

the basic, because this. .. a problem that was even imposed psychologically on many societies: you joined the army, you are dead, this entire period of the rest was filmed, and he was already given a result, not a result, a winner, a hero, let’s understand one thing, that in the 23rd year russia stole 15 billion dollars for counter-propaganda of our mobilization, i think this it is enough to understand why such challenges, in addition to this, a number of politicians in ukraine, who, after all, we will consider to be passionate, who in... influence public opinion, saw that the ukrainian army was winning, were frightened a- by its ratings, b - decided to build their own political ones programs and began to emphasize the fact that somewhere some part of society does not accept this protest, because a certain situation has also developed, i absolutely agree with you in society, when a large number of people, we found ourselves, well, it is not in a bubble, but in a paradigm of our worldview , defend,

defend, fight and... we thought that everyone does this, everyone thinks this way, we discovered that there is a large category in doubt, a large category that needs to be strengthened, and we cannot talk with them, because there is no time, it is necessary to do, and those who wanted took advantage of this to manipulate the weakness of human thoughts, people, on fear, on fears, and they have done their dirty work, and indeed this omission that happened needs to be reworked now, but i say there must be a common goal that we re... what will happen in ukraine, this is how we should discuss about filtering, this is how we should talk about those issues in the future to our executive and legislative bodies, it is also important, i understand, it is boring, again about officials, again about deputies, but they change the agenda our life and system of ukraine, and if we do not go further, we will vote for those who speak beautifully, or for those who eat the earth there or throw sand, but do not offer their pro...

if we do not read the programs, if we do not to demand from them reporting, real reporting, if society, this society as a whole, cannot shift responsibility from itself to someone else, or hope for simple solutions, this i will repeat, it is boring for the general public, it says well, but in fact this is what shapes our country, and even when there are some declares that the americans and the british do not know their prime minister, or not always. they may know their president, perhaps, but they know which party he left, what their party's program is, it is important to always emphasize this, because there the party understands that if it deviates even by a point from its postulates of the program, it has a chance for the future it won't happen, but that's only when a mature society will do it, and we have to do it, the war is the chance when it gives us the opportunity to all unite, really, to all react in the same way, we see that it's also true, that... .

well, 99 percent fly.