if such a number, then we will stand, i know from my other friends there who were in kyiv, that is, when they saw the number of people who left, that is, from it people, businessmen, millionaires there to simple guys from borshchagivka or troeshchyna, that is everyone united and when they left, there was also some kind of calm, well, although they were already approaching quite close, we know, they were approaching quite close, there was vorzel later, irpin, later bucha is close to you. well, that is, whether it's moschun or others, but a certain peace because of this, and to what i will introduce it, now then there were volunteers, ugh, that is, people who had a very clear argument, why, why and for what, having at the same time families, having three minor children each , i have several comrades who are serving with me, who still, having all the grounds for dismissal, have continued to serve for 2.5 years, e.g. mobilization is currently being carried out, is it

necessary, obviously yes, or is it morally and willfully such an argument before by itself, does it exceed the one that was in the 22nd, i think not, i think it is even a little lower, yes, that is why the question of history must be raised, it must be raised with the personnel, and this should actually be carried out by moral, psychological support, sections of moral and psychological support, we have very cool examples of this, we have for example, the third assault brigade, where our colleague, the historian oleksandr olforov, also works, he is just engaged in moral and psychological support, i know examples of brigades that are now introducing such and such units into themselves, and that is, well, such there are units, but they are not developed, that is , they are according to the internal instructions of the armed forces.

but they are not developed to the extent to which they should be, that is , you need to talk with the personnel why this war did not start on february 24, that is, i always correct the interlocutor, well, it probably happened to you as well, but when the war began, i say, friends, this war began on february 20 on the maidan of the 14th year, not this one with the shooting of the heavenly hundred, and not on february 24, the 22nd year, well, if we look deeper, then this war, as it says our colleague, volodya vyatrovych, she, this is our century-old war, it started at the beginning of the last century simply because such an entity as the ukrainian people's republic is already ours, our truly ukrainian state, if you look at it from a historical point of view and we are talking about the cossacks, then yes, these are ukrainian national entities, but still they are considered proto-states, and we already have the entire state with all its attributes.

but she just stood across the throat, both white and red, but she was an orc, so ork, well, it did not last long, this ukrainian state of that time, and it existed due to several factors, firstly, there were some disagreements in the leadership, some were pulled there, others here, and secondly, the people themselves... not so much wanted to go and fight because they didn't understand what they were fighting for, we still draw some historical parallels from time to time. do you have the feeling that it resonates somewhere, or how are we different now, maybe we have done some work on mistakes? i think so, well, that is, i am generally such an ardent optimist, and i think, and see, and know, and believe that we have done the work on mistakes. the first point, which is not lacking in the unr, we have is under.

this was not enough for the west of the ukrainian people's republic, that is, they were actually there themselves, and it was very difficult, if we take the same entente, that is, france and great britain, they supported the white guards, and, if white, if denikin wanted to capture kyiv, because he explained to his allies that kyiv is a city of the russian empire, well, they said, okay, well , like, well, it's there and now we have the support of the west, two. we have indeed a strong army, that is, we have the armed forces of ukraine, not only the armed forces of ukraine, i do not want to offend my brothers and sisters from the defense forces of ukraine, that is, because it is the national guard, it is the state border service, it is the security service of ukraine, the national police nso1, and we have really strong defense forces of ukraine, really strong, armed with high quality, maybe not all units are there to the end, but in the end... work on it is going on, we have, in

the vast majority, i will not, i will not talk about 100 %, but we have in the dominant the majority of the population is aware of the fact that they are ukrainians, they have the state of ukraine, and these orks, okay, and russians, they don’t want here, and they don’t want to see and hear them, they don’t need them history, culture, well, we can still talk about it, because, unfortunately, not everyone is so convinced of it yet, but, that is, we have a lot of winning things, we have a strong army, we have... the awareness of ukrainians that they are ukrainians, they need this state, and we have the support of the west, unfortunately, in the unr all this was not there, that is , the propaganda of the bolsheviks worked very well there, the power was divided there, let’s remember how we worked, like vynnychenko, then he ran away, then

he returned to kyiv, only later, when konovalts’ snipers defended poltava there, then he did stay in kyiv, but, well, before that he wanted to run away from chimudan several times. packed, there were such things, now, well, for now we have much more prospects and much more opportunities to defend our state and our right to exist. a little bit, our conversation is coming to an end, i will tell you one more such moment from your biography, if you google the name volodymyr birchak, it gives such information that i was born in 1881, i was very well preserved, but your picture and... that you are a ukrainian writer, a literary critic, a soldier of the ukrainian sich riflemen, this is a relative, this is a relative, but he has, well, first of all, that this is a distant relative, that is , i researched his biography, i have an archival investigative file, because he at one time was

detained in was detained in prague, then imprisoned by the nkvd, but he and i, in addition to that, that we are relatives, we have several things in common with him, he is a soldier of the ukrainian armed forces, i am a soldier from... the armed forces of ukraine, basically two-two of two formations that fight for the freedom and independence of ukraine. he, like me, was once an archaeologist, he is, it is true, a cooler archaeologist than i, although i was also engaged in archeology, but i am not a writer, i am actually a historian, although he is also a historian, as it is, and we also have similarities, that in we have the same ears, i really hope that his life is over after all. tragically, tragically, i.e. here too moskalsky boot trampled and shortened the life of a man who could do something for this country, i really want you to succeed in realizing all those plans you still have, i know what you want, that you

are actually finishing this book right now, yes, and what it will be about, announce it, well that actually the book, these are stories from... these are stories from the archives of the kgb, that is, this is the ukrainian 20th century, and it, this is something that we do not know, and this is something that we know very poorly, maybe so, maybe so, that is, this from the fact that ukrainian nationalists cooperated with the british mi-6 special service, went through special forces training and were thrown into landing planes on the territory of ukraine, perhaps someone does not know much about this, before the participation of jews in the ukrainian rebel army, so that one of them was... actually a political consultant to the chief commander of the upa, and many such things that we either do not know enough about, or we don't know if we can talk about any plans yet for when this book comes out, i think it's too early, it will all depend on how quickly i can work on vacation with the state of health

i'm in now, eh , and when the vacation ends, in september and further back, the front, the front, my lord, thank you for this... for what you do both on the battlefield and on such an ideological battlefield, you return to people the historical truth, of which you were the editor, and you can stay, i was expelled, i take participation in discussions, even, my god, how do you manage to do everything, it happens, dear friends, our guest was volodymyr birchak, sergeant of the armed forces of ukraine, historian, archivist, head of the academic... center for the study of the liberation movement and the editor of historical truth , and they spoke we are with him about history and about the war and about how history is, how to make sure that the history of our previous losses does not repeat itself. stay with espresso, thank

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espresso tv channel, my name is vasyl zuma, and today we have a conversation with the special correspondent of our tv channel, artem lagutenko, who visited kurshchyna. artyom, congratulations, congratulations vasyl, we discussed the right way to call the territory of the russian federation where hostilities are ongoing with the participation of the armed forces of ukraine, and i will not comment. your opinion, well, obviously there is some official position, although again, i did not find it, but what do you think should be called this territory, where you were, where hostilities are currently ongoing? i believe that this territory is possible to consider the territory that was liberated from dictatorship, in general, you can bring liberal russian politicians there, let them announce a referendum there, announce that dictators are sitting in the kremlin and invite them to liberate it... democracy in russia, nato and ukrainian troops. by the way, the people with whom you were able to communicate, residents of the kurdish

region, they perceive the kremlin as a place where the dictator rulers, the moscow regime, as a regime, or, well, again , and as far as we can adequately speak today, well talking with the residents kurshchyna, that they are sincere in their statements, regarding ukraine, regarding the kremlin. about putin. you know, i think the locals only say what you want to hear from them. and while communicating with them, we saw many locals and communicated with them. i got the impression that they are trying to guess what i want to hear from them. but, speaking of the local authorities, of the kremlin authorities , it was absolutely clear that they were sincerely disappointed, sincerely... angry, because they were simply left to their own devices, that is, there were representatives of the local authorities who did not flee to

settlements? no, the local authorities fled immediately, but we had the opportunity to get to the territory of the city administration, and we saw that it was ready for defense, that is , they knew in advance about the attack, we looked at the accounting journals and the last entries there were for august 3, but the locals say , that... no one carried out any organized evacuation, the armed forces of ukraine, again, i will ask, you say what you can say, because... that there is a certain informational silence, there are certain things that will become known later, there is things that may not be known even to journalists who visited the kurshchyna combat zone, which today is actually not under the control of the russian authorities, what the ukrainian military says about the difficulty of overcoming those defense lines upon entering the territory of the aggressor's country, on which

insane amounts of money were spent, that was the point about tens of billions of rubles. whether it was 15 or there was some member's amount spent on those defense sports, what they, what they did? our soldiers not only told us about the event, but also led us, actually drove us around all of them areas through which our forces organized the invasion of the territory of kurshchyna, i can say that it is clear where this money was spent, because they have engineering facilities there... very powerful, there are simply whole labyrinths underground, and this position makes an impression, at the same time , was pleasantly surprised by the way our troops organized the offensive, it was extremely professional, organized, they prepared for it for a very long time and carefully, even though we all

know that for several months we were told about the danger of an offensive on sumy oblast. and did defensive structures, so all this was an element of the information campaign, that is , the armed forces prepared the defense, knowing in fact that they would attack, so that the enemy would also be less ready for an offensive. when we were filming the defense structures of the russians, i was surprised that there were a lot of diagrams, blueprints, drawings inside, which are necessary in the first place. to take out, that is, it indicates that the russians fled from there in a hurry, with what, is there an understanding of why this happened, and we know that, well, from the information we have from telegram channels, what is written about by the military themselves, who are in the chicken coop, what the official bodies of the military leadership and political leadership write about, and we know that there were many

conscripts there, that is, military men, well, young people, even boys, and there who ... they are simply not ready to fight, this is just an obvious fact against the professional coordinated army of the armed forces of ukraine, but were there any other reasons, but there was also the fsb, there was also the akhmat battalion, there were certain units that took part in battles on the territory of ukraine, but from the fact that you understood, perhaps from communication with our military, what broke this system, because i don’t think so, and from the fact that you told that there... but there was simply no one, some people were sitting, they saw from afar, there was smoke somewhere from tanks, abandoned their weapons and ran away, it must have been broken, the element of surprise worked, this operation of the kurdish offensive, it is very much similar to the kharkiv counteroffensive, then we also had no idea that

the offensive was about to begin in kharkiv oblast, breakthrough of the defense line, and it happened, it happened... in general, over the past 2.5 years, if you look at the most successful operations of the armed forces of ukraine, there is always an element of surprise, and this time it was confirmed. was it possible to communicate in kurshchyna, after all, this is a region that is historically connected with ukraine, there, interestingly, in kurshchyna there is a unit of special operations forces named after a prince, who was a prince. kursk, prince of kievan rus, this is very true, by the way, by the way, it is very revealing, well , plus, there was also the suzhan hundred, the troops of the ukrainian cossacks, and actually, this the territory which, well, which was definitely historically a part of kyivan russia, in general, this, this great, great state entity, which

was called kyivsk, later, later, ukraine in its various forms, and the cossack state, the hetmanship and so on, er. did you manage to communicate there with people who consider and perceive themselves as ukrainians, despite the fact that they may have russian passports, communicate in russian, but they say that they do not, but we know that we are ukrainians, we have ukraine some connections, yes indeed almost everyone with whom we talked told us either that he himself is from ukraine or that he has relatives in ukraine, here is another noteworthy point that i did not switch to russian with them, i spoke ukrainian and i was fine there.. . understood, there was an interesting moment when we met two women near the convenience store who were leaving with a cart, with a bunch of... products, they were talking to me in russian, and then somewhere nearby , a shot rang out, and they instantly started speaking ukrainian , we will not be shot, i say no, everything

will be done well, well, in general, i would still like to ask about the humanitarian situation, because of course we see videos, any videos we see, they are always fragmentary, they are always some fragments of something, there are no full pictures, both one side and the other side, again in this war there are those of us who are defending ourselves, well, in this case we... came to the territory of the enemy, again, defending ourselves and there is another side that can say, but it was cut out of context, in general, the humanitarian situation there is very difficult, and waters they don't give, they don't even give people to drink, and they keep them in cellars, i'll say it again i will say that opinions can be different, you were there, the humanitarian situation, how people live in those settlements that came under the control of the armed forces of ukraine, there is a humanitarian disaster, everything ends there, people have no communications. in general, well , light, water, communication, well, but what is being brought, because i, again, watching the video, i see that something is being brought, i understand that the weapons of the forces of ukraine are not providers

of humanitarian aid, but is this enough for something, and then catch up again, well, there are more questions to this previous one, if there were any talks about the fact that international humanitarian organizations should work in this territory, which would actually do what they should do, provide, well, more or less. the relatively normal life of the civilian population in the war zone? well, we have to understand that when our troops entered the kurt region, they assumed responsibility for the citizens of the russian federation who are there, that is, there are international rules, standards of warfare, and when our troops enter there, they actually occupy this territory. then they begin to bear responsibility for... the civilians who are there, the locals told us that ukraine imported drinking water, that is, they could not explain whether it was the military or some humanitarian

organizations, and the locals are actively gutting, so to speak, all the food stores, and the food there simply runs out very quickly, and in fact, if this issue is not dealt with seriously, then... these people will simply start dying, and we will have to rethink, probably, the way we perceived the information that the cabinet of ministers wants to build humanitarian corridors, but here the question is that at first they say, we do, then people give their feedback, and we no longer do, well listen, people who are in power, they must make certain decisions, having calculated all the nuances, but do it ... this is taking responsibility, i can say, it must be done, you say, but no, vasyl, you are so strange, what kind of russians are you, why in sumy region, where there are already a lot of people who are in

need and in problems , which are not covered by these needs, why should we still spend money and everything else on the residents of kurtska regions and citizens of the country, the aggressors and you and i can argue here as much as we want, but in your opinion, how should the government act, on the other side is belarus, which is a brother to russia, it thinks so, well, at least that's what lukashenko says, you can organize. corridors, that is, in your opinion, how should this issue be resolved, because we seem to be more responsible for these people before the world, but on the one hand, on the other hand, we understand that these are citizens of the country of the aggressor, and there are many more such sides, from which you can look at this situation, well, at my boyish mind, i also would not like ukraine to spend its funds on russian citizens, but i believe that the best option would be to provide a reliable corridor for international... everything necessary for the residents of the kursk region, but where do these people want to go, but

if we talk to them, they are here now, while we saw there, someone is taking food, other various things from shops, well, of course , for free, let's put it this way, for free are being taken away, let's not call it what it 's called in reality, but speaking to them, where do you want to go? that is, as i understand it, no one will take them further there to russia and they themselves will not get there, do they want to go to ukraine, or wherever they want to go, if they talk about it at all, they want it all to end, that's what i'm talking about , talking with them, asked: what is your message to putin, for example, and they say to me, putin, when it's all over, i see that they don't care about ukraine, it's russia... i just don't want to feel in the shoes of our citizens, the current question is, well, it's not that this question is being asked, it's just that many

people cite it as an example. and the same sumyshchyna, which woke up on february 24 and already saw, well, part of sumyshchyna already saw russian tanks on the streets of its towns and villages, and we remember the partisan movement, knocking down those road signs, partisans, partisans, removing mines, this well-known, there are many famous videos, but in popular resistance, in the camp, in sums, they broke into those warehouses with weapons, took out weapons, defended themselves, how could they, in russia, in kurshchyna, nothing like that, at least it didn’t get into the news feeds, nowhere in the telegram channel, you can explain it, and why, and then where is your popular resistance, if you, well, you are citizens of another countries, your army is fleeing, well, that's an interesting question, really, and maybe it's because we're just different, you know, but i also drew attention to one point, well...

attention to one point, to how our military behaves with civilians , we, in fact, when the city was moving, we shouted from every corner that we were journalists, because we wanted to see how people did not behave on camera, and i was surprised that our military behaved with the civilian population of the kursk region in exactly the same way as with the civilian population of ukraine. front-line settlements, that is, russians there move freely through the city, no one beats them, insults them, does not humiliate them, and there they check documents and the contents of their phones, but this is actually no different from the way our troops behave in our country front-line settlements, there is no such hatred and malice, there is an understanding of the task and a desire to fulfill it and

all. thank you very much, i am artem lagotenko, a special correspondent, a tv channel correspondent, you know, i would like to say that after some time i would like to talk with you here in the studio about how the arrival of ukrainian troops was perceived in moscow, maybe it will be, because you know, whatever - any empire, any state that starts a war, sooner or later meets this war in its capital, especially since it is an unjust aggressive war, a war that russia unleashed against ukraine, but if they themselves are in a vice with to his putin, then perhaps our troops will not have to to go as they say, to belokamyannaya, thank you for your work, first of all, thank you for the conversation, you stay with the espresso tv channel, and it will be interesting from now on. there are 10% discounts on essential forte nn until independence day at podorozhnyk, bam and oskad pharmacies. there are discounts until independence day on bionorm detox.

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