the beginning, this is the first result, but very soon it may become your end, dmytro, and you will have time behind bars to delve into the wonderful ukrainian culture. the next traitor with the rank of minister, oleg viktorovych shereneshev , born in 1988, hails from krasnodon , luhansk region. we are for a strong russia, it has only such a future. in 2009, oleg graduated from the luhansk state university of internal affairs, and... in 2012, he headed the department for children's affairs of the executive committee of the krasnodon city council, was a ukrainian official, and when the occupiers captured krasnodon in april 2014, chereneshev began to serve the rashtists. and yes, it is inspired that they appointed him as the head of the department of physical culture and sports, and last year made him the minister of sports of the so-called luhansk people's republic. our people, citizens, athletes, children, people of all kinds. age will be able to take advantage

of the modern ones that meet all the technological norms of a sports facility that did not exist in the republic before. on the modern sports facilities opened by shereneshev, these are old mutilated gymnasiums built almost a century ago and taken over by the occupiers, where children are herded for propagandist television pictures and pretend to care about their health, they painted the torn walls with green paint and here they are, modern innovations in the ehlerian style. of course, all this is thanks to russia. as a respected rashi official, oleshko puffs out his cheeks, calls for support for putin, organizes sports events in honor of buried svo soldiers and forces children to write letters to them. all pro-russian activity and for at the same time, reports for curators from the kremlin are actively broadcast on social networks. the fact is that every russian fake ministry has a telegram channel. it is there that they actively promote the minister, highlighting his work. a channel called the ministry. sports of the lpr can become

an excellent evidence base of sherenneshev's treason. with inspiration and special joy, i heard with pride that our president is paying attention to sports and its development. for more than 30 years, sport has not had such support. we really hope that soon there will be someone willing to write an inspired one letter to oleg himself, when he will serve his sentence for treason in the ukrainian prison. our next collaborator with the mandate of minister makarenko is olena sergeivna , born in 1968, originally from luhansk region. today, the government adopted a resolution on the remuneration of employees whose positions are not state-owned. after the occupation of luhansk region , makarenko immediately understood the rules of the russian world and began to implement it. she quickly received the position of minister of labor and social policy of feykova lpr. the chair turned out to be so comfortable that it was a traitor.

does everything to stay in it as long as possible. this is a large-scale event for the whole of russia. we, as a new region, are voting for the president of the country for the first time, and we are voting for the future, for our happy future. votes for putin, talks about regular shelling from ukraine, popularizes russian programs among the local population. today , the government of the luhansk people's republic adopted a resolution providing for the payment of annual cash assistance until victory day. suspicion and a just sentence have already awaited this fan of the bloody dictatorial regime from the ukrainian famida. it was the program collaborators and i, olena kononenko. if you want to tell us about the kremlin sellers, write to us at this e-mail address or just on facebook, together we will send all the traitors after the russian ship. see you in a week on espresso.

greetings, you are watching the espresso tv channel, my name is lesya vakulyuk and we are continuing the series of interviews with people who make ukraine better on the espresso tv channel, today i am a guest of a person who makes ukraine better in in two planes, in planes in the historical plane and in the plane when he writes the present history himself with a weapon in his hands. volodymyr birchak, volodya for me, because i have known him a little longer, volodya, when i asked how to introduce you, volodya answered me: you can simply be a sergeant of the armed forces of ukraine, but from civilian life, a historian, archivist, head of academic programs of the center for the study of liberation movement, you can also mention that the editor of the historical truth, if not too much, i think not too much, and there are still many different pages with of your life, which we will remember today, and i also want to tell our viewers: what does volodya

actually know from so close to the summer of 2021 , there was a little more than six months before the full-scale invasion, and we just worked with volodya on the same project. documentary 10 days of independence, where i was one of the screenwriters, and volodya was my consultant and actually explained what and why, how everything happened over the last 100 years in the history of ukraine and why we chose these 10 days of independence, because it is those days when for century, ukrainians gained independence, gained statehood, but then something happened in our history, and the gaining of independence did not end in 1991. and now you, volodya, are literally choosing our 11th day of independence. did you, as a historian, foresee and know that you would have to go to war? well, in fact, in fact, in other words

, i prepared myself for a full-scale conflict, and in fact, i prepared my relatives and friends that it is most likely inevitable. and that means it's not me alone, i'm not in this is unique, i know a lot of my brothers who have analyzed the international situation, who have analyzed the things that country 404 is doing, can we call it that today, so as not to talk like a scumbag, that it all leads to a full-scale conflict, in the end, you very aptly mentioned this documentary series that we worked on for 10 days of independence and espresso viewers as far as i... had the opportunity to watch it, you can still watch it on youtube, absolutely, absolutely, and simply, if we analyze the history of 20 century, actually the ukrainian 20th century, of the struggle of ukrainians and ukraine for their independence, and we will see that the one that

is different in scale, that is, the war that began in the 14th year, which we now call the modern russian-ukrainian war, it is obvious began much earlier in the 20th century, and its already... such a full-scale stage or a full-scale cycle, it was inevitable, and maybe we will touch on this question somewhere in today's conversation, this is a very important question for understanding that you can never believe russia can never be trusted in some ephemeral peaces or truces that russia offers you, and at the same time , a democrat should not get carried away. russia, why am i talking about this, actually, once again, i appeal to our series, when we were preparing a series precisely about its independence day, later about the referendum, there was once such a president in the russian federation, whose name was boris yeltsin, and he the world admired him because he was

a democrat and so on, but if we look at the press of that time, yeltsin was a great democrat. at the beginning of 1992, it had already begun openly to threaten the state of ukraine that if it does not get rid of its nuclear status, then he will make a preventive nuclear strike on ukraine, and this is the 1992 year, that is, the great democrat yeltsin threatens the neighboring already independent state that he will strike with nuclear weapons if not will fulfill its protections, and this is generally the whole history of russia, and the history of russia and its relations with ukraine, that is... until this fait that exists on the northeastern border with us, they will never come to terms with our independence, they will never put up with our independence, therefore, if we run a little ahead, you celebrated the 11th day

of independence, this 11th day of independence, it will either happen in us, or, in my opinion, in my personal opinion, or we will cease to exist as such . "if the orange revolution or the revolution of dignity, these were our days of independence and our victories, and we obviously could have lost in them, well, in fact, there were various factors that contributed to the fact that we could lose, but then we still had some perspective, well i.e. we can only stay in ukraine where yure is, and well, we will be, i repeat, another failed state in... belarus, yes, which, unfortunately, its self-proclaimed dictator is now, is who they are, but we won then, now it is no longer a question of whether we will remain ukraine as something ephemeral, in fact the question here is whether we will exist or we will not exist

as such, and therefore this day will either happen, it will really be the day of independence and the day of our victory, or we will cease to exist, i but very often... i analyze these things that happened in the 20th century, in my own time i worked a lot in the archives of the sbu, in various positions, for about six years, my last position there, i was a deputy. com of the director of the archive of the sbu, the branch state archive of the sbu, and now during my treatment, because i am on medical leave due to a combat injury, and i remembered that in a previous life, before the full-scale invasion, i was a historian and began to work on book now, and again and again i distort the materials that i wrote before, i raise new ones, and again i raise the docket documents. nkvd, mgb, kgb, and they are very illustrative, because they very clearly

show what can happen to us if we lose, and this is conditional, as, say, with the active army of the ukrainian people's republic or as the soviet special service called them with the petlyurivtsi, and this is the vast majority of the personnel of the army, i mean the attention, now of the armed forces of ukraine, will be physically eliminated, even if not on the battlefield, then later tracked down and eliminated by special services, a part of ukrainians who fought for independence in other armed ways, i mean ukrainians in the body, who help, who volunteer, which donatiat, who hurts ukraine, they , respectively, as supporters, as the soviets called it, of the ukrainian counter-revolution, yes , that is, as supporters of, let's say, the ukrainian people's republic, they will be condemned, sent to siberia, but that will remain. .. part of the collaborators and that part of the pochekuns or zhduns who

unfortunately still exist in ukraine and still exist, moreover, they are in different parts of ukraine, like here in lviv, where we are now having a conversation, or in odesa, or in kyiv or in kharkiv, that is, i do not want to say that our prospects are sad, because we are an independent country now, which has a fairly strong and professional army, and which is helped by the west, and we have a chance... to win this war, just for us to win this war, this war has to become a people's war, it should not be a war of units, it should be a war of the majority. when i talk about the people's war, it is not only that somewhere there is, well, you know, the way it happened, unfortunately, somewhere in 2016, 17, 18, when news from the ato zone , and then from the joint operation area. strength, well, we were already going through a decline, decline, decline, well somewhere there are some boys and girls, somewhere

in the east they are fighting with someone, we are okay here, we have life here, but i have nothing against a peaceful life, although i am a military man, but a peaceful life is a peaceful life, this is good, because actually you can go on vacation to a peaceful city, where your wife, or your beloved, or your mother is waiting for you and spend those 10 or 15 days of vacation there, but this is war. should not go to manivka, and it should never be forgotten, but in civilian life, in fact, when it will be popular, when all the people will fight, then we will be able to win, and on february 24, 22, it looked like a national day, everyone mobilized then, how was your day on february 24, oh, i had a very comical one, well, no, it is, i i don't want to look like a clown, it certainly wasn't a funny day, not a funny day at all. but it started interesting to me, that is, i had a premonition, and we had a meeting there that evening with

the director of the cdsr, we were supposed to make a presentation of a book there, and i said: listen, well, it’s all good, what we’re planning, but it seems to me that from day to day it will start, and i will i won't be at this event, but i was convinced that nothing would start, well , okay, and then i sat down in the middle of the night to finish the book, and i was just then with my colleague from the institute of history of ukraine, national academy of sciences, tetyana pastushenko. we worked on the book pro-red security police camp of the isd, well, that is, it is a nazi camp on the territory, on the territory of kyiv, which existed from 1941 to 1943, and where a lot of people were actually murdered by the nazis, and we worked on a collection of documents on behalf of the university of jerusalem , that's why i i remembered it for a reason, because - putin came to de-nazify us, and i sat working. over a collection of documents about the national camp, well , i don't know if he knew about it, i guess he didn't know, so i worked somewhere until

1:40, and then i simply fell asleep on the computer, and well, that's the beginning i overslept, and i was woken up by a good friend of mine from the states, bohdan gavraliuk, he is from the organization for the defense of the four freedoms of ukraine, and he called me, i was sad, i picked up the phone, i said what happened, he said, you have a war, i said , i'm either sleeping or... it seems to me that he is saying: the war is in the news, but then i went to ukrpravda, saw that a full-scale invasion had really begun, and then everything turned upside down - with the army. well, not the military commander, the territorial center of recruitment and social support, tsk, better known, distribution, the first, the first month is the defense of the ternopil airport, i was calculating, anti-aircraft guns, banally speaking, so as not to name the full full name, otgu, after that, after moreover, it is a company

of counter-subversive struggle. er, later the intelligence company, and then already from the summer of the 22nd year direct participation on the line of combat, this is donbas, the north of donbas, the izyum direction, later the south of kharkiv region, then the kharkiv counteroffensive, then kupyansk, and now sumy region. er, a long way from ternopil? 1200 km. uh, you now? on recovery, yes, recovery from injury, combat injury, yes, well, it, it's called a combat injury, and somehow, well, we like to joke with our brothers, somehow it happened, jumped and broke my knee, well, it happens, yeah, just jumped like that, or still saved his life, we held events with mining positions, and, unfortunately, we were, uh,

you can use slang. we were burned by an orc and an orc hall, well, this is their reconnaissance drone, and after that , after they saw us, a mortar fire started from their territory, well, we had to urgently take a position below the ground, there is such a position below the ground, well, i was out of ammunition, i unsuccessfully jumped somewhere from a height of 3 m, well, that's how it turned out, it happens. this injury is the first injury of some kind, this is already the second, the second, and that's all, everything is lucky for me mines, all the same 82nds, because there was also an 82nd near kupyansk, but it hit the wall of the dugout above my head, but there was this one, there was also one, well, it was scratched, as the guys say, huh , the guys who are with you,

did any of them have a question for you, or a question like that? with a claim, as if to a historian, saying, if you knew that there would be a war, why didn't you warn, or why didn't you historians warn all of us, no, well, we warned, well, the truth is, i'm asking if people ask that, i even , i can even drop sex, where did we warn about this, no, the guys did not ask such a question, well, here, there probably is, well, i will not reveal some big secret now, there is, as in ukrainian society, i... see, so among my brothers and sisters , there is such a definite question somewhere, probably to the authorities, that is, that for a certain period it was based on the principle, like this hollywood movie with leo dicaprio, don't look up, that is, don't look up, but it was a dangerous tactic, many people really didn't believe it, what will happen, but everything pointed

to that, and our western partners pointed to the guys don't have such questions, when we are there in... someone has time and mood, then we talk about other historical issues, and what interests the people who are with you in the okopia, who are shoulder to shoulder with you, but they do not have a historical education, what interests them, is it history, is it from the history of ukraine? er, i apologize, well, it depends here, that is, someone is interesting, well, my brother actually fights in the same platoon with me, he is a historian and graduated from the same faculty as me, well, that is, he and i sometimes stick our tongues, then for a long time... you can to talk, but not only about history, there is also about international relations and about other things, it depends on who has what request, well, that is, i have my platoon, he is interested in history, and when we were more or less quiet in the positions , well, near kupyansk it is always comparatively more or less quiet, but when it

was possible to talk a little to himself there, he was forever asking himself, tell me about that, tell me about that... tell me about that, well and then he even this commander of the department in which i was, now he is my brother, because there are two of us the commanders of the department, well, even then he was a comrade, so he even told him, he says so, i didn’t understand, but why i don’t have a night shift together with a cover, he says, why did you move me, well, i have a cover call, so he says, why did you transfer me and we already found out why he is like that, he says, why did you transfer me, we are talking about history with klap at night, and you transferred me, he says no, no, put me back on duty with him, and well, even this one is different. there are different stories, that is, mainly the guys have a request for this, and and here it is possible, i will even say more about the entire structure of the armed forces, that the request, the request for this. yes, there is a request for this, as simple as one of the guys being interested in history, asking to explain something more, and the second point is that in 2022

, you mentioned that there was a people's war, and well, that is, really, when when i came to the military hospital on the 24th, tsk, there i passed the military medical commission and so on for a long time. and the very next day, the 25th, i came, i was supposed to be assigned to a brigade, and i saw already on the 25th, just like a door, a door the tsk is bursting with volunteers, and then somehow i felt a very, very great peace, that is, i saw, yes, if there is such a number, then we will hold out, i know from my other friends there, who were in kyiv, that is, when they saw the number of people who left, i.e. there from... itishniks, businessmen, millionaires there to simple guys from borshchagivka or from troeshchyna, i.e. everyone united and when they left, some

kind of calm came, well, even though they came already quite close, but we know they came quite close, there was a vorzel , later irpin, later bucha is close to you, well , that is, is it moschun or others, but there was a certain peace because of that, and what am i leading this to now? then there were volunteers, ugh, that is, people who had a very clear argumentation, why, why and for what, having at the same time families, having three, three minor children each, with me several comrades serve, who are still having all the grounds for dismissal, they have all continued to serve for 2.5 years, mobilization is currently underway, is it necessary, obviously yes, is this kind of moral-willed argumentation before the battle itself, does it exceed the one that was in the 22nd, i think, no, i think it is even a little lower, yes, so that is the question of history it is necessary

to raise, it is necessary to raise with personnel, this should actually be carried out, moral psychological support, units of moral and psychological support, we have very cool examples of this, we have for example the third assault brigade, where our colleague also works. historian oleksandr alforov, he is doing just that moral and psychological support, i know examples of brigades that are currently introducing such and such units into themselves, and that is, well, such units exist, but they are not developed, that is , they are, according to the internal instructions of the armed forces, but they are not developed to the extent to whom we should, that is, with the personnel , we need to talk about why this war did not start on february 24, that is, i always... february 20 at the maidan on the 14th year, and not this one from the execution of the heavenly hundred, and

not february 24, 22, yes, well, if we look deeper, then actually this war, as our colleague volodya vyatrovych says, it, this is our century-old war, it began back at the beginning of the last century, simply because... such an entity as the ukrainian people's republic is already ours, our truly ukrainian state, if you look at it from a historical point of view and we are talking about the cossacks, then this is the ukrainian national entities, but still they are considered proto-states, and we have them already the whole state with all its attributes, but she was just across the throat, both white and red, but she was just an orc, so an orc. it did not last long, this was the ukrainian state at that time, and it lasted for

several reasons, firstly, there were some disagreements in the leadership, one was pulled there, the other here, and secondly, the people themselves did not really want to go and fight, because they did not understand , what they are fighting for, we still draw some historical parallels from time to time, you have a feeling... that it resonates somewhere, or how we are different now, maybe we did some work on bugs? i think so, well, that is, i am generally such an ardent optimist, and i think, and see, and know, and believe that we have done the work on mistakes, the first point that the unr lacked, we have, this is support the west, the ukrainian people's republic did not have that, that is, they, they were actually alone, there, and it was very difficult, ah, if we take the same... entente, that is , france and great britain, they supported the white guards, and if the white , if denikin wanted to capture kyiv, because he explained to our allies that kyiv is a city

of the russian empire, well... they said, okay, well, like, well, it's there and now we have the support of the west, two, we have a really strong army, that is, we have, the armed forces of ukraine , not only the armed forces of ukraine, i do not want to offend my brothers and sisters of the defense forces of ukraine, that is, because it is the national guard, it is the state border service, it is the security service of ukraine, the national police insovoon, insovoon, and we have really strong forces. defenses of ukraine, really strong, armed, qualitatively, maybe not all units are there to the end, but in the end, work on this is going on, we have, in the vast majority, i will not talk about 100% there, but we have in the vast majority of the population awareness that they are ukrainians, they have the state of ukraine, and to these orcs, that's okay.

they don't want russians here, and they don't want to see or hear them, they don't need their history, culture, well , we can still talk about it, because not everyone, unfortunately, is so convinced of this yet, but that is, we have there are a lot of winning things, we have a strong army, we have the awareness of ukrainians that they are ukrainians, they need this state and we have the support of the west, unfortunately, in the ukrainian people's republic all this was not there, that is, there really is a very good pro... bolshevik propaganda worked, power was divided there, let’s remember how we worked, like venechenko, sometimes he ran away, then he returned to kyiv, only later, when konovalts’ snipers defended poltava there, he did stay in kyiv, but, well, before then several times i wanted to run away and whether i was packing, there were such things, now, well, now we have much more prospects and much more opportunities to defend our state and our right to

exist. a little bit, our conversation is coming to an end, i will tell you one more such moment from your biography, if you google the name volodymyr birchak, it gives such information that he was born in 1881, i am very well preserved, but your picture, and it says, that you are a ukrainian writer, a literary critic, a soldier, a ukrainian sich marksman, this is a relative, this is a relative, but he has... well, first of all, that this is a distant relative, that is, i researched him biography, i have an archival and investigative file, because he was once detained in, was detained in prague, then imprisoned by the nkvd, but he and i, apart from the fact that we are relatives, we have several things in common with him , he is a soldier of the ukrainian armed forces, i am a soldier of the armed forces of ukraine, in principle two two two formations that fight for the freedom and independence of ukraine, he, like me, was once

an arch. he is really a cooler archaeologist than i am, although i was also engaged in archeology, well, i am not a writer, i am actually a historian, although he is also a historian, as it is, and we also have similarities, that we ears are the same, i really hope that his life ended tragically, tragically, that is, here too the moscow boot trampled and shortened the life of a person who could... do something for this country, i really want you to succeed in realizing all the plans you still have, i know what you want, that you are actually finishing this book right now, yes, and what it will be about, announce it, well, it’s your own book, it’s stories from the kgb archive, that is, it’s ukrainian the 20th century, and it, is what we do not know, and this is what we very much

we don't know well, maybe yes, maybe. that is , from the way ukrainian nationalists cooperated with the british mi-6 special service, went through special forces training and were dropped on landing planes on the territory of ukraine, maybe someone does not know much about this, to the participation of jews in the ukrainian insurgent army, so that one of them was actually a political consultant to the chief commander of the upa, and many such things about which we either do not know enough or know little. can we talk about any plans for when this book comes out? i think it's too early, that's all will depend on how quickly i will work on vacation due to my current state of health. eh, when will the vacation end? in september, and then what? back, front, front. oh, my lord, thank you for this conversation, thank you for what you do both on the battlefield and on the battlefield like this.