ask at press outlets or pre-pay online. the country is in the center of the main events. tingling, numbness or crawling of ants in the limbs arise spontaneously and worry you. a special complex of active substances of dolgit antineuro helps to normalize the functioning of the nervous system. dolgit antineuro helps to return to usual activities without tingling and numbness in the limbs. capsules dollheit antinevro - help for your nervous system. there are 20% imodium discounts until independence day at travel bam and savings pharmacies. glory in ukraine, dear tv viewers, on the espresso tv channel, the west studio program. first of all, let me congratulate you on the greatest ukrainian holiday, independence day. it's not about a calendar date, it 's not about... just a red dot in our

calendar, it's about a holiday in the literal sense of pouring the blood of our soldiers, and our civilians, all those who gave their lives for our ukrainian independence, so we remember them. my colleagues have prepared a lot of important and interesting and useful conversations, both with people who are represented as political spectrum, and the sphere of culture and not only, but i would like to talk about polish-ukrainian relations. in 2022, poland helped us a lot, we remember it and appreciate this moment, but we understand that we have many challenges caused by the so-called difficult polish-ukrainian affairs, so we will talk about this and other things with my current guest marcin bosatsky, head of the polish-ukrainian parliamentary group, deputy of the polish diet. greetings, mr. posle. thank you very much, it's my pleasure, thank you for

the opportunity to be here and communicate with you, to be here with you and communicate. we understand that we have a lot of issues related to polish-ukrainian affairs, but the most important issue that hangs over the entire continent is russian aggression against ukraine, and perhaps not only against ukraine. we also see that the russians are building up their forces, and this is not only in the area of ​​military and weapons. this is a huge challenge for the entire continent, but it revealed that ukraine, being in mortal danger, was destroyed, hit, let's say, not yet in the heart the russian enemy, but on the territory of the former chernihiv voivodeship, now it sounds like the kursk region, and the atmosphere immediately changed a little, the enemy did not expect this, and our allies did not expect it, in particular, very strange and cautious statements from the american side, as you see it do you feel

russia and its allies, but here i must tell you that i believe that the reaction to your course offensive two years ago, 2.5 years ago, would have been radically different. and this is a positive development of the current situation the americans, germans, and french say that ukraine can defend itself against russian aggression, as they see fit. needed i am convinced that even

two years ago, these comments from at least some of the western allies would have been more panicked and more cautious. and in my opinion, this is a good evolution of the west's position. this course attack did not change anything. i think the west finally understood that ukraine can and should defend itself by all possible means against that terrible and shameful aggression of putin. as i say, this is a good evolution in the right way direction are there, for example, ukraine's restrictions on the use of weapons, atakams and so on, are they still there, are they, is everything perfect, not perfect, but really, as we recall the first months after february 2022, even such loyal allies as the british said: we will give ukraine weapons for defense, and now no one says so, you get, finally get, but you get f-16, powerful tanks, powerful missile weapons. now you still need to convince

the west that as soon as you like it. yes it is very important and of course i would like to thank you too and to the polish people and various political parties of poland for the fact that poland passed the test that began with full-scale russian aggression. this means that polish political elites have united around the most important thing, support, quick support of ukraine. in the meantime, somewhere in brussels, maybe she would still write some documents. poland had already given the green light to polish tanks at that time, and it was very important, it is not only about tanks, but also about rifles and so on. but we see that this is not a military operation, it is not a short one war, it is an old, long, bloody war that has prospects for expansion. actually, i

would like to ask if there is a feeling of the ruling elite of poland, this is primarily about prime minister tusk, but not only about him. is there an awareness that at some point poland will be obliged to simply give... an answer to one of the next russian provocations. of course, we understand that those rockets that once flew into polish territory may have been an accident, or maybe not. maybe it was some kind of, i don't know, study of poland's reaction, and in at some point, maybe someone in warsaw will have to give the order. a few difficult tendrils. for the first time, i was already in lviv at a service in the garrison church and saw a service for three fallen ukrainian heroes, i see that it looks as if lviv is functioning and living normally, but this war is visible. i had a conversation with mayor sadov, i am a guest of mykola knyazhytskyi, the head of the ukrainian-polish

parliamentary group, and it is noticeable that the whole society, the whole ukrainian people, involved in this war, firstly, secondly, we are already a part operations putin against... the west primarily due to the operation of transferring migrants, often very aggressive migrants, trained by lukashenka's kgb along the polish-belarusian border, and this pressure has been going on for almost three years, it is usually carried out on latvia and lithuania, but the biggest one is to poland this spring, the first polish soldier wounded by a knife on that border died. we have now sent a large number of military and police forces there, and we have managed to reduce... the number of those attacks, but they continue, so poland's awareness that it is part of of the west's conflict with putin and his subordinate lukashenka is absolute. if we are talking about rockets that repeatedly fell on lviv or yavoriv, ​​and before that

they were on the territory of poland for several tens of seconds, it is not easy. first, it should be an allied decision, not just a polish decision, which we will try. shoot down, secondly, they are on the territory of poland for a very short time, it is not 10 minutes, but 30, 40, 50 seconds, so even technically, it is not easy to hit them on the territory of poland. remember also if we are talking about the goals of our and your biggest ally, that is, the united states, then those goals are twofold: first, how to help ukraine as soon as possible so that it wins the war with russia, and here i will emphasize once again, the whole world... the whole the western world, the civilized world, full of great respect and honor for the ukrainian military and the ukrainian people, but the second goal of the americans is to not directly involve america or the north atlantic alliance in a war with russia, for as long as possible. we have numerous events

provocations, little is said about it, but there are provocations related to the plans of ukrainians employed by the russian special services, who are also in poland. together with the american services and other nato countries are responding to this, but for now the red line is that we are responding to a level that does not escalate nato's conflict with russia. meanwhile, there are certainly no red lines for poland when it comes to helping ukraine. this assistance is as

large as it can possibly be. polski doesn't have any czerwonych linii, if any o pomoc ukrainie ta pomoc jest tak. i talked about this topic with bohdan klich and he understands that there is a need for something like this, but the most important thing is, of course, a political decision. and the decisions of the allies, because we understand that if poland had joined the defense of ukrainian skies, we would have managed to transfer some forces to the east, for example, for the defense of kyiv, or kharkiv, or zaporozhye, or other cities. we understand that air defense systems are expensive, and they are always in short supply, especially when it comes to war with the russians. as you can see, the possibilities to solve this? it's not easy, i'll tell you what's clear for specialists, but for... not easy, i'll tell you what's clear for specialists, but probably

not for many of our viewers. ukraine, especially after the last three or four months of expelling patriots from various european countries, from greece, from spain, from germany, has many more patriots than poland, and we certainly do not have enough of those patriot batteries to protect poland, so rather they sending from poland to ukraine is not possible, instead of cooperation regarding fast detection of such missile...threats from russia, then it is most possible, having said this now, i believe that the goal of this war and the goal that ukraine must achieve, and that poland sets for itself at the end of the war, is full membership with full rights of ukraine in nato and the eu. then obviously, after a certain armistice or peace with russia, there should no longer be any restrictions, and the difference between the security of ukraine and the north atlantic union, in particular poland, this must be... a clear goal of this war, but we must hold on, survive to that

moment, to membership. yes, for this, poland is the force in the talks in the north atlantic alliance, which, for example, this spring, after that difficult winter, when you lacked shells to shoot down russian missiles, not only the patriot, but also others, was the force that in the domestic . in previous conversations, she said that we should give ukraine everything possible, but understand that we cannot give everything we have now, because , unfortunately, there is a potential missile danger for warsaw and gdansk, for other cities of north-eastern poland, we cannot give everything to you now, but what we can, we give everything. aviation, how did you feel, and with regard to aviation, do you think there will be any ... progress in terms of the number of f-16s. we understand that the most important decision has already been made, but another

issue is also important: their quantity, not just quality. i will only say that what you have received so far is only a small amount of what you will receive. yes, and now we will have a short break, after which i will continue our conversation with marcin bosatsky, deputy of the polish diet, head of the polish-ukrainian parliamentary group. laughter, physical activity, sneezing. even during such a small load, urinary incontinence can make itself felt. feminost uro helped me. thanks to the natural ingredients, feminost uro helps restore control over urination. feminonost uro - urination under control. there are discounts until independence day on magne b6. 10% in psarynyk, bam and oskad pharmacies. red bull. salzburg, dynamo, kyiv, only on mego. there is a place for kona in the champions league. and the people of kyiv will prove that they

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, i am not sure that the russian-ukrainian war is successful sometimes in order to complicate relations between poland and ukraine. but sometimes this happens. you and we must realize that only one power - russia - will win out of all the cooling of polish-ukrainian relations, or aggravation. most of all, i know this, the russians, through their agents, through propaganda, are working very hard on this, and for sure, maybe there was a real difference of interests, and indeed the polish fer... suffered from the fact that there was too much ukrainian grain, which should have been exported further, remained in poland, there is also here the responsibility and fault of the previous polish government, which did not control it, but the whole adventure of blocking the border last winter had the hands of the russians, i am sure of it.

fortunately, it was resolved, as you know, the blockades have not been in place for six months... i have great hope that the positive attitude of poles to ukrainians and ukrainians to poles, built over the past years, will be confirmed by us, politicians, journalists, and the environment of opinion leaders. in the coming months and years, because strategically, if we are talking about the most important ones security interests of poland and ukraine, there are currently no countries closer to each other than our two peoples, i.e. poland and ukraine. our strategists i completely agree with you, and the most important time when we managed to defeat the russians was during, say, the polish-lithuanian-ukrainian combination, which was called the commonwealth, translated as the republic, and the polish-lithuanian-ukrainian union at that time forces still scares

russia. obviously, they would like to play on some kind of division to introduce discord between our countries, and on the other hand. you used the word allies. 100 years ago , petliura and pilsutski managed to do a miracle near kyiv and in kyiv, i.e. defeat the bolsheviks. but unfortunately, it didn't work out later. and we understand that in those days the polish ndecia, the national democracy, was actively fighting against pilsudski. polish nationalists who saw a different development concept. and now there may be a certain repetition. of course i wouldn't like it, but you used the word allies. so how far can it go? that alliance, the polish-ukrainian military alliance, because it is a defense treaty is on the table, or the security agreement, ona jostala przezna przez przez polski urząd. it is signed by the polish government, instead, all long-term international agreements require peace, efforts should be focused on ukraine really defeating russia

in this war. in fact, the level of interest that ukraine has gained over the past two and a half years is colossal. you have received support not only from poland, but also in europe as a whole and... the states, not to mention canada, where there is a powerful ukrainian diaspora. indeed, in that war you won millions of allies who want to help you with all their hearts. this is a new situation. unfortunately, until 2014, even partially until 2022, the majority of german, french, and italian citizens believed that ukraine was such a new country, uncertain, and it passed, it no longer exists, and if it exists, it is somewhere on the margins of the discussion in europe or the united states, there is a clear understanding that ukraine is part of the west and that the west in its own interests, not only moral, but also strategic, has an obligation

help ukraine win this war against russian imperialism. you know, when we, poles, baltics, romanians, czechs, warned against russian imperialism 15 or even 10-6 years ago, the western elites looked at us as russophobes, no one thinks that way anymore. everyone knows that, unfortunately, part of the state and national russian thinking is imperialism. it's never been any other way, really. russia had two very brief moments when it flirted with democracy. in the 17th year, kyrenskyi for a couple of months, and in the 90s years again, maybe two or three years of early yeltsin. and that's the end. russia, unfortunately, and also part of the democratic opposition of russia , identifies itself with imperial ideas.

but of course there is probably a difference related to nuclear weapons and so on, and the west is not what it used to be, it means that no one wants war in the west on purpose, but sometimes you have to give an armed response. i see that this is quite a popular view in ukraine, so i will tell you again, i see a huge, not enough, but huge change in a good direction. not bad, really. respond for the 14th year, crimea and donbass was also positive, but at a minimal level. the answer as of the 22nd year is already

very serious indeed. let's be honest, ukraine received roughly more than 200 million euros or dollars in military equipment, as well as financial aid. there are countries that really gave you a large part of their weapons, like poland. clear declarations that you will be a member of nato, i sincerely admit a couple of years ago. were impossible, there would be our friends from the west who would say that they are making such a decision, i understand this ukrainian impatience and mostly agree with her, but i have been in dialogue with politicians from the west, from germany, from france, from great britain, the usa for more than 20 years in a row, and i tell you, lately i have been thinking about russia, about ukraine, about the security of europe , particularly the north-east, is fundamental, and it is thanks to you, is there a danger that... it will change in the future, unfortunately, i don't know. in my opinion, unfortunately, part of the entourage of the former president and now candidate trump in the american elections is such a danger. but the main direction to

to see russia as it is, and not idealistic notions that russia is powerful in the process of transformation to democracy. if even the germans traditionally, for various reasons, including historical ones, have a rather naïve way of thinking about russia, even the germans have changed a lot. its position, and this is for your benefit and ours. i have not yet answered your question about our nationalists, nationalists are everywhere. you have nationalists, we have nationalists. now there is no danger in poland that nationalists will shake the good polish-ukrainian relations. but you need to be attentive and careful, keep this in mind and build really stronger ties between poles and ukrainians. this acceptance at some point of 3 million. ukraińców, teraz jest ich około miliona, to są mainly kobiety

z. license plates, and who drive lamborghinis or royals-royces with ukrainian license plates, you know what is the saying in poland, when in the history of poland, or perhaps europe, there was the largest convention of luxury cars, self-propelled cars, as if some sort of usyka boxing match, as there was some usyk's boxing match at the stadium in wroclaw, and then a couple of thousand luxury cars with ukrainian license plates arrived, these are not simple matters,

but we must solve them... based on mutual understanding and interests, because as i said, the strategic interests of poland and ukraine are practically the same, as i say, strategic interest polish and ukrainian are practically the same. you said that we should build, i completely agree with you here, but in order to build something, we need a tool, that is, mechanisms of cooperation between governments, we understand that there is such a public part, but there is also a practical part. we understand that there should be groups that will deal with the implementation of what the presidents of their time, president duda and president zelensky, promised. they directly said that , for example, cooperation across borders will be facilitated, or maybe there will be no such borders at all. now ukraine is increasingly moving towards the european union. but this is, let's say, a public sphere and everything here sounds good. however, when we come to concrete , practical implementation, there should also be good communication. we have it now in poland. a very

good agency under the leadership of pavel koval, a well-known polish figure who understands polish-ukrainian issues. i don't know if there is any symmetrical structure on the ukrainian side, but there should be many more such agencies on the polish and ukrainian sides. these are different questions, questions in historical matters, in medical matters, in educational matters and in many others. i will not list everything now. the polish-ukrainian parliamentary group it works, so it should be done more, mine is trying to do it, my visit to lviv and to kyiv in a week is also dedicated to this, we together with the presidium of our group were in kyiv four months ago, a month ago there was a presidium with mykola kniazhytsky headed by artem kovalev in gdańsk. i will tell you this,

for example, here in... the economic meeting of the ministries of economy of poland and ukraine, it seems in march. our closest cooperation will be on energy to help you survive the difficult coming winter. the energy bridge, which until now mainly operated from the as in khmelnytskyi to poland, will, if necessary, be a return bridge, i.e. poland will export your energy to ukraine if you lack it this winter, so that your cities and communities are not left behind.

but also, for example, the contact of young people. poland has huge exchange programs, mostly with the germans, but also with france. similar youth exchanges are needed despite the ongoing war, i believe, with ukraine. in order to get to know each other better, so that stereotypes go into the past, so that ordinary interpersonal friendships between young people are born. i urge the ministry of education and science to do so ukraine. it all has to happen now. there is nothing wrong. for cooperation in various fields, including the self-government of your government, cities or regions with our cities, communes, voivodeships, we can really use european means to expand polish-ukrainian relations. to better polish-ukrainian relations.