in may, when you turned to the specialists, i think somewhere in the middle of june, because yes, somewhere in the middle of june i called mariana savtka, yulichka’s sister did not leave my side for three weeks, she was just with me 24/7, i called mar yani, yulichka left sometime then, i called her and said, i 'm going to go to the hospital, but you, please, go with me so that i don't... back at the last moment, because, well, we're all children of the soviet union used to , that psychiatry is something very scary. you made this decision yourself, but your loved ones didn't, i did i made the decision myself, because i realized that i was falling into the abyss, and i was still waiting for my son, and i didn't want him to see me in some inadequate state, and the state was already actually descending to the inadequate. it is probably

worth telling our viewers that until today you do not know whether he is alive or what happened to him brothers, brothers all shout with one voice that he died and they are sure of it, there is no body, there is no case , i'm not sure, and i 'll never trust anyone to the end, i'll wait, me i will wait if i have to, i will wait all my life, but i will wait, that's how i got out of this state, i started writing posts, i started writing posts on the internet, talking to my son, i remembered our stories from his childhood, from the beginning, how he was little, how he was a teenager, what stories we had, what funny and tragic stories we had, and more, and i wrote them under one hashtag, lemberg, two dots, mommy.

cry, lemberg, mommy don't cry, lemberg is my son's nickname. at first he had the call sign is lviv, but when he moved east, there was the position of lviv, and in order not to confuse the position with the call sign, his brothers renamed him lemberg, this is the ancient name of lviv, so i also wrote posts about myself, about my feelings about how i was a mother before, from the beginning of a large-scale war in... the invasion of a large war until may 20, 2023, what was i a mother, what did we do, what did we get, it was just if my son called me and said: mom, i need te-te-te, but it 's on mars, and i'd say there is, and would fly to mars, i bought him such things, whoever reads the book will understand that it was simply impossible to do that. and i said,

i will do it, and when he wanted to translate, he said: mom, they don’t want, well , a fighter like him, of course, no one wanted to translate, he is beautiful, he has proven himself, and all the recommendations that my brothers later wrote to me , and the commanders wrote and spoke about him, and i understood that of course no one wanted to transfer him, he wanted, yes, he passed this height, he needs to go even higher, he has already passed this, gained knowledge, he needs above, and here he tore, tore, and finally... he left from the first days of full-scale from the first days alone, he came to the dressage office three times, he was told, we will call you, and he left himself, and then he said: mother, imagine , a summons will come to me, and i'm already here, and he once told me, mom, they don't want to transfer me, you have a chance to be a slave, well damn, who am i and who is a slave, where do i have a chance to be a slave, but i know so much that he believes in me as ... and that i am such an authority for him, i

said, of course i will find it, i didn't know how will happen, but in three days i already had a phone, i wrote to valery fedorovich in the evening, and in the morning mykhailo had already been transferred, valery fedorovich sent me all the documents, these are the stories in this book, stories from him, how he became a man, how he becoming a boy, how he fought, our military stories, reviews of the draft, well, the book is non-fiction, but it is read in... it is like fiction, well, of course, my experience, how i got out of this situation, this book was called a primer a long time ago, for the military, for relatives, military, for relatives, and for those who do not have not related to the war, so that he could understand us and we became closer to each other, but explain why for relatives, please, why for relatives, that what is in the book is, let's say, i wrote about my experience. this will be a primer for my relatives,

i wrote a full assessment, they are today , you know, you can give a few examples , just tell what exactly, what exactly. but the feedbacks started to be very strong, after the publication of this book, they started writing to me every day, i receive letters from people i don't know, it's written by mothers, sisters, it's written by wives, and so on literally this morning i received a letter, thank you, some inna wrote me the last name, i do not remember, thank you for writing this book, reading it, i recognized my husband when he told me how he was small, how he before listening to all these stories, i get the impression that you wrote about my husband. ivan kademyt, if you remember, reading my posts on the internet, said: "god, i see artemko, i see my artemko, these are children born in free ukraine." they are completely different, plus or minus there are

several years. and this book is a primer. like, me i once dreamed that when i got to the clinic, my doctor was treating me. according to viktor frankl's method, and i realized that my son often quoted various phrases, and when i now know that these are frankl's phrases, i understand that my son read frankl and was interested in him, and i fell into very good hands, and i when viktor frankl wrote a book in search of true meaning, yes, i think that's what it 's called, this is a person who lived through a concentration camp, and he shared his experiences, how he survived, what he came to, or... he operated, what were his senses, and people when this war ended, the second world war, this book of his became a primer, because almost the whole world was wounded by this war, and people, reading this book, and it immediately became a bestseller, reading this book, they had such a primer for themselves, a survival primer , and

i realized while writing these posts that serhii rudenko and volodymyr vyatrovych wrote to me that this should be a book, they just wrote to me. personal messages, it should be a book, and i collected this book, collected these posts into a book, named this book under this hashtag, and i, in i had the feeling that maybe it will be, well, i don't want to praise myself too much, but it might be with something similar to viktor frankl's book, only it was during the second world war and a wounded society. read it, and now our wounded ukrainian society, reading this book, will find a lot in common, a lot of kinship, will see this experience, and maybe in this experience will find some necessary things for themselves, who are these people who

come to you now on presentations of this book when you visit different cities, i i didn't even expect that the presentations would be so crowded and that the book would have such a big... publicity, because the first edition was sold out in three weeks, i didn't expect that it would be so necessary and so interesting for everyone, the people who come , first of all, they come to sign, buy a book at the presentation, come to sign, and everyone wants to hug me, and i want to hug this person, we hug, each person needs to spend a few minutes, talk, someone is a mother, someone is a neighbor. someone's wife, someone just a person who cares, and i also noticed that mostly at all my presentations people cry in the hall, some are afraid to read this book, thinking that it is very strong, dramatic, in fact, it is a drama

of light, who has already read it, they say, there is so much light and so much summer, reading it, you grow wings and want to fly, so you cry, sometimes over some heads, but these tears are pure and bright, these tears of faith, hope and love. maybe those people who came to you for a presentation, maybe you remember, maybe someone told you a story that you were impressed, and maybe someone had a similar story to yours, and you can share it . and not alone, there was not one, when a woman approaches, but her daughter-in-law, her husband’s wife wrote a book, he had an eagle, the surname is orlov, and my mother came to

the presentation, the wife could not come to the presentation then, my mother came, and we both cried, hugged a lot, but she already knows for sure that he died, everyone... who knows me, who writes to me, who cares, people believe that mykhailo will return, me too i really want to believe and really want him to write a sequel. of this book, it would probably be called lemberg's return, that's how i want it, god willing, god's will for everything. olenka, well, going back to what you know about your son today, and what you don't know about his fate today , what answers they send you, what they say, nothing, hush hush, hush hush, i talk to a lot of people. his comrades, i communicate with combrig pavel palisa, i communicate with his

combatant, bravo, i communicate with the financial department, because marta processed the receipt of aid there, as a wife, she is afraid of the military, she has a terrible fear, so i had to communicate on her behalf... so that marta received money, and we are very good friends with her, we were not so friendly before, but now we can go together to the beauty salon, for coffee, just keep silent even together, we are comfortable, and i think that mykhailo is happy, if he knew this, you are lucky, because you have such a beautiful woman. a person who supports you, maybe you learned and

when you traveled, traveled with this book in different cities of our country, maybe there are some special associations that unite such women, maybe there are some organizations that help, because we understand that not everyone is actually sometimes lucky with family, with friends, and not everyone can get such there is tremendous support, of course there are unions, there are organizations and... i have been invited several times, i am not yet ready for unions and organizations, i communicate with ivanka dymyt, this communication is enough for me, she supports me a lot, this is not ready why, you think, we are all different, we are all different, and i, honestly speaking, i am a little afraid of this communication, i think that it will harm me. well, this is what my inner intuition tells me so far. maybe i'll change my mind later,

yes for now. you are afraid because there can be a lot of grief. i take every grief as my own. and listening to each story, this is another trigger for me. i've even stopped reading the news lately because i cry every time. every time a photo of a fallen hero appears on facebook, i cry over each photo. i thought that for now that i'm not ready, i'm not ready, that's how i thought, and i was advised a lot and i thought about adopting or adopting a child, but my doctor says: until you adopt yourself, you're not ready, when you'll be able to stand on your feet , it can be a very strong helper and change you, or maybe on the contrary you will not be able to give this child anything, no matter what you do... find your resource, love yourself, hug yourself, there are

even such psychotherapeutic classes, you hug yourself, feel you feel sorry for yourself, or you look in the mirror at yourself and talk to with yourself, with your self, to feel yourself, to feel sorry for yourself and to understand that life was given to you by god, and you have no right to waste it, that's how it happens, people... people come, people leave again, and my psychotherapist also said: take it like this this is how madonna held her child, and imagine that this child is your child, do you have the right to harm her, you don't, you have to treat your life the same way, i'm trying to understand it now and live with it, feel it and be to be like that, maybe you can advise

our viewers who have experienced grief and maybe you know some other practices, or what helped you, movies, books you read, write posts, on facebook, write, don't be ashamed, don't be ashamed to do a moral striptease, don't be ashamed, don't be ashamed to show your bezzak. anger, your pain, don't be ashamed to show your despair, don't keep it to yourself, choose a hashtag and write a post every day, write about your husband. write about your child, write about your brother, tell stories, share, let the whole world know and hear and be proud as well, how proud you are tell me, please, look, what are the next steps, someone told you,

maybe some government agencies, maybe the military, told you what your next steps should be, what to do? what to wait, wait, i passed the dna test, my ex-husband also passed the dna sample analysis. we did everything we could, now we just have to wait. the territory where mykhailo and bananchyk disappeared is under occupation, no one will venture there. if suddenly they, the wounded, were taken prisoner, that side is nobody. doesn't give any lists though it is supposed to give lists according to all the rules of the un, they must give lists, they don’t give them, unless it is possible to hunt them down on some special telegram channels, search them out, which i do from time to time, but to no avail, so

what else can be done, i would if i had already gone there, i would have crawled there and kissed the ground. and i would wait for my son and look for him, i don't know what can be done, i did everything that was possible. by the way, i remember this idea of ​​yours when you talked about how you wanted to go there, i went, but i came as close as possible, uh, through druzhkivka to kostyantynivka from kramatorsk, i heard that every morning in kramatorsk you wake up and hear only bang, bang, bang, bang, you hear how it goes... the war, and as close as possible to me my brother, a classmate of mykhailo, who also serves there, felix, he took me as close as possible so that i could launch helium balloons with a letter to mykhailo and a banana, i wrote them a letter that i was waiting for them,

and we laughed a lot about what will happen in heaven mysterious object, well, it flew away, and when i looked at it, it disappeared right from my eyes i brought these gel balls from lviv, we drove with volunteers in a bus with everyone, shook everyone's property, and these balls traveled with us all the way. the war continues, and my next question to you will surely be difficult. it is very difficult, because it seems to me that i am no longer afraid of anything in this world, i am not even afraid of death anymore, look, women and mothers are looking at you now, whose sons, thank god, are alive, but would you let your son go , knowing that it would be exactly like that, i didn't

let him go, i did terrible things that i just didn't do, i begged him, his fir. where does he work, he works as a business analyst in a well-known american it company, he is engaged in banking, his salary was much more expensive than the 100,000 he received at zero, there was much more, he knows languages ​​perfectly, he is an excellent specialist , his followers collected and bought everything for him, so that only he could have everything, all the best. that i only, i restrained him at the beginning of the war, he was still a schoolboy, then a freshman, he was eager for a great war, i didn’t just make it up, i even i sinned by telling about my terrible illness, i lied to him, and this time, well , how can you stop an adult boy, because i didn't

tell him, because i didn't ask him, because i didn't beg him, he said: mom, once in i will have children. maybe the second and third, and these children will one day be forced to go to war against moskal. if we don't end this thing now, we will be leaving a very bad legacy to our children, we will be leaving a legacy of war. yes, inheritance is bad. that's what he thought. well, maybe it was the wrong construction of the thing. because really, how can you not let go of a real man when he accepted, and his wife did not, we did not let go, i understand those mothers who hide their sons, i understand them, and... i understand, i understand everyone, and people are afraid, and not everyone can, well, he was like that, brothers, as they said about him, he says, he is the guy with whom you can not talk about fishing or

zhiguli, with whom you can talk about roman law, with whom you can talk about all world wars, about everything you want, he was an intellectual, he is, i will talk about him in the present tense, plus this and a person who when, so the guy said literally, when we were in a terrible ... mess and it seemed that we would not all get out of here, mykhailo joked and cheered everyone up and laughed, and we were charged with this positivity while looking at him, and it was easier for us, he held the whole team emotionally, and the second one tells, says: we also said goodbye to life, here you are walking on footsteps, and to help us, and we persevered, and we got out, he went first as a commander, a commander.. . should go at the end, he went first and left last, and another of his brothers said that mykhailo saved several tens of lives, that's how fast, he came

to lviv with his wife, and i try to find free time and go to them in zaporizhzhia, and i also want to visit my parents , banana, and maybe there are those words that you would like to say to all wives today , moms? there are those words that i really want to say to everyone, speak and love right now, don't put anything off for later, because then it might not be, say what you love, say what you are proud of, say everything that you think is the best, don't delay never for later, because later may not happen, but i want to thank you and tell me the book... or my last name, my name is olena cherninka, it can be ordered everywhere on

the internet, and you can also buy it in a store, in bookstores, cafes of the old lev in a bookstore there are many others. olenka, i thank you for your son, thank you for this interview, that you agreed. and you know, i still believe that lemberg will return to us, we all believe, and that we will remember it, and that our victory will come soon. thank you, thank you very much. events, events happening right now and affect our lives, of course, the news feed reports about them, but it is not enough to know what is happening, it is necessary to understand. antin

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congratulations, friends, the saturday political club is on the air on the expresso tv channel as part of our holiday marathon. antin borkovskyi, vitaly portnikov, glory to ukraine, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, i personally congratulate you on the day of ukrainian independence, the holiday to which you devoted yourself as usual. powerfully, we understand that this is generally a collective matter, the republic, a joint matter of the polish-lithuanian commonwealth, so at one time, such terms were used to outline what is the common one, and we deleted this name from the act of state independence, and i have already told you that i crossed out the word republic with my own hand from the act on the state independence of ukraine, why the republic did not please you, the republic pleased everyone, but dmytro vasiliovych pavlychko, who at that time... was actually one of the authors of this final draft of the act, he was afraid that if the republic of ukraine and the communist majority of the verkhovna rada of ukraine were written in the act of independence, he would notice that there were no

ukrainians. ssr, it was such a situation, the independence of the republic of ukraine, but what about the ukrainian ssr? yes, well, he decided that they just wouldn't notice, they didn't. and it was wise on his part, or on the contrary, it was such a pretense? yes, because very often we consume what we have inherited. i'm not saying that all the experience and all that is there, starting from the state border and certain things that are all bad, right? that is, certain things went to the plus side, that is, for inertia, ukraine is a movement. but very often we lost on this, probably, well, i think that on that day it all hung in the balance, it seems to us that it was an absolutely predictable thing, something that the verkhovna rada met and proclaimed independence, and it could not have been otherwise, 100,000 times it could have been, these were really quite serious efforts, and a group of people who had opposition to their decision even in the people's council itself, among the national democrats of ukraine, because

many believed, and among them... there were volodymyr hrynyov, the then vice-speaker of the parliament from the democratic opposition, and larisa skoryk, that there could be no independence of ukraine without the prohibition of the communist party, and the communists, for their part, believed that independence ukraine must guarantee that the communist party will survive, because on this very day boris yeltsin in moscow banned the communist party of the soviet union on the territory of the russian federation, and in fact, between these two... desires to ban the cpsu, and this was the main idea, or vice versa, to do everything possible for ukraine to become independent, but with communist rule, it was necessary to walk between these two desires at this very moment, and the fact that ukraine was not called

a republic is the result of this... . fear that we will not be able to declare independence in any way , and i remember that there were such fears until the last moment, so i think that it will be reflected in the campaign for independence, in general, when levko lukenko wrote this first draft that we saw in the morning, there was a ukrainian people's republic in general, he wanted it, and by the way, i think it was right, so it is right. the ukrainian people's republic, so that we don't just say that ukraine is independent there , the heir to the ukrainian ssr, no, yes, uh, we are simply restoring onr as we say, the justice of a century ago, relatively speaking, well, how latvia, lithuania and estonia restored their state according to the constitution, which ceased to be valid in 1940, but again we did not have a majority , unlike the baltic countries, there was no

majority in parl now has a majority. and it is possible, it would be worth correcting certain things, that is, when we talk about the self-reliance of the ukrainian people's republic, then it is possible to solve certain dilemmas of the historical plan, the historical and legal plan much easier, when we say in particular, how should we be with good ukrainian communists, and they were actually representatives of the soviet occupation regime, that is, if we consider that as the administration, yes, yes, well, as posypaks, relatively speaking, yes. that is, if ukrainian the people's republic was the foundation from which the current ukrainian independence grew, well , accordingly, this is the period of the 1920s and 1930s, that's how we should perceive the builders of ukrainian statehood at that time . to evaluate kosiors, from a historical point of view you are absolutely right, but from a legal and legal point of view there is a certain problem, because latvia, lithuania and estonia

restored their... independence in those state borders in which they were internationally recognized until 1940. furthermore, the russian federation appropriated to itself, uh, the district of latvia, the current petalovsk district, of the russian federation, the former abrene district, and the district of estonia, the current ivangorod as part of the russian federation together with the district, this is... an internationally recognized territory of estonia, by the way, that's why , when on august 27, 1991 , the press secretary of the president of the russian federation made a statement regarding the possibility of territorial claims to the former soviet republics that have borders with the soviet union, he specifically emphasized that this excludes any problems with latvia, lithuania and estonia, why? because they knew for sure that it was latvia and estonia that could make claims against them, and not the other way around.