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today's first guest, yevhen dykiy, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, former platoon commander of the aidar battalion, head of the national antarctic science center. mr. yevgeny, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. during the last few days, mr. yevgeny, russia has been carrying out massive strikes on the territory of ukraine, on critical infrastructure objects, in particular on... this night, after the previous morning again there was a combined attack by the russian invaders on ukraine, the russians used missiles, missiles, 91 means of air attack, you can explain what putin is trying to achieve, the same thing as always victory, but putin has no question what he wants, he wants to win ukraine, it

is obvious to him, unlike the various bidens, it is absolutely obvious to putin that someone will win in this war, either russia ukraine or russia’s ukraine, and he is doing everything that, in his opinion, should bring russia closer to victory in this war , russia in this war. and of course the destruction of our energy system, which, well, we, we, well, we are simple people, we are used to seeing everything through our prism, we somehow think that the key element is that we will not have light in.. there will be no water again, inconveniences will begin again. this, by the way, is also an important element of the russian victory strategy. they want us, the ukrainian rear, to break, so that we, the ukrainian civilians, start asking the authorities to freeze the conflict on any terms, so that only we can have electricity and water. but in fact, it is far from the only one. the destruction of our energy infrastructure is, in particular, disruptions on ukrzaliznytsia, which , in particular, transports bc and military equipment. destruction. of our energy infrastructure

- these are, in particular, interruptions in the work of our defense plants, which the further they produce, the more they produce and the further they go, the more they make us independent of the mood of our allies. of course, russia wants to deprive us of all these possibilities, and actually the missile strikes of the last two days, they clearly had three groups of targets, namely energy-generating, the latter can be said to be energy-generating. which were not yet completed during the spring campaign, then energy distribution, let’s say, the distribution substations of our energy system, a special emphasis was precisely on the substations that feed ukrzaliznytsia and on the sorting station of ukrzaliznytsia, well, apart from energy, there was one more a group of objects, which for some reason we don't talk much about, let's say, but right here. not the situation where we

tell the enemy where he was aiming, the enemy was still aiming at our planes, both both these are powerful missile strikes, and actually the first and second, they are in addition to the power system, also a significant number of these, and missiles and drones were directed at our airfields and specifically at our planes, in particular they grazed, you can say f16, well and eh... the result they have a zero result for this category of objects, i.e. for planes, they were not able to destroy any of our machines, not a single one, but the air force and the main intelligence directorate worked perfectly, gur warned in time which planes were already known to the russians, which precisely, their hiding places are known to the russians, where they will fly to, the air force reacted in time, not a single car was found at the place where they were going, that is, with

the power system, unfortunately, you can’t do it that easily, you can’t hide the kyiv hess, like plane, but it won’t fly from point to point, so there are losses in the power system, but again... to be honest, if you look at how much was flown at us and how much was destroyed, well, in russian it ’s called "mice were happy." so in reality there are 200 means of impression in one attack and about a hundred in the second attack, that is 300 means of impression, long-range, as a result , one hes and two large tets were significantly damaged, several were destroyed. on distribution substations, well, it’s just not equal, to be honest, it’s even the cost of the missiles that were used, well, the first attack where there are 200 missiles is about 1.3 billion dollars and about half a billion for the second attack, i.e. well

, they spent 2 billion dollars for this company, well, to destroy one majzal of one hydroelectric power plant and several substations, well, what are they too... cheap, well, excuse me, there are dozens millions of dollars, it's also a lot, but billions of damage were spent on tens of millions, well, if the effectiveness, let's say so, is very mediocre, well, by the way, it's not that the orcs have crooked hands, targeting them was mostly enough not bad, it's about our air force, again, which uh, well , gave such a percentage of intercepted targets, well, to which israel still grows and grows, that's the question, in fact, how often we underestimate our defenders, that's what our anti-aircraft forces are doing literally every day, well, this is unprecedented in the world, to actually nullify the multi-billion-dollar efforts

of russia's military and space forces, it is actually very expensive, and we, and we just take it as a given, well, it's like, we're just used to it, that, well, our guys are like that, they're like that work, and that's actually putting it mildly. simple work, and in general, i paid attention to one more interesting aspect, that is, in order to prepare such a blow, let it even be a two-part blow, maybe, by the way, even today there may still be some smaller third, i admit, but in general, to prepare an otaku, such a massive strike, it took the russians a month and a half, remember, there was a period when 100 rockets were struck every week, then they became every... two weeks, then once a month, now once a month and a half, this is not accidental, it is the question is that the russians have no strategic stocks of missiles left, and they can afford to use exactly as many missiles as they

have produced in a certain time, respectively, in order to prepare for a big blow, their factories must now work for a month and a half, only after that they will again, as they like to say there we can repeat, but they will be able to seriously again. repeat also in a couple of months, this is the replacement of these damaged things, that is, well, yes, the time we have for recovery, for unpleasant preschool blows, but they are absolutely not fatal, and it can be completely calmly experienced, the main thing here is in accordance with our i want to adjust myself, that is, mr. yevgeny, i understand correctly that these strikes were not a response to what... is happening now in the kursk region, which is the systematic work of the russians to destroy ukraine, which they and previously carried out, just like that, and for the actual preparation of yesterday's and today's strikes, it began long before we entered the kursk region, that is , it is fair to say that they began to prepare

a response for kursk before we even made a decision at all , that we will take that course, well, it would be incorrect to say the least, no, in general, by the way, again... this is one of the points that russian propaganda is trying to impose on us, the appearance of what is allegedly there is a direct connection, that is, blow for blow, some kind of symmetry, not symmetry, something to ourselves we allow, they allow themselves something in return, this is all a lie, they allow themselves from the very beginning everything that they can do purely technically with the exception of nuclear weapons, that is , not using nuclear weapons and not touching nuclear energy, that is... this is the red line that in fact, they held the event, and only, this is the red line, after which they were promised that nato would intervene directly, and that is why this is the only thing that they do not do, everything else that they are only capable of technically in order to defeat us, everything the rest they do exactly when

technically they manage to do this, but there is no connection with our actions, they harm us in every way they can, that is independence. the more successfully or less successfully we destroy them. let's talk about what is happening in kurshchyna, because today the head of the armed forces of ukraine is speaking at the ukraine forum. on the 24th of independence, he said that russia had transferred 30,000 troops there to dislodge the armed forces of ukraine, let's listen to what he says about kurshchyna as of august 27, 24. kurdish operation distracted a significant number of his forces, well, at the moment we can state that about 30 thousand military personnel have already been transferred. in the kurt direction and this number is growing, today the intention is to take control

of 1294 km of territory, 100 settlements located in this territory, also thanks to the successful actions of our troops, we have significantly replenished the exchange fund, today in this direction to polon. 594 servicemen of the armed forces of the russian federation were taken. and president zelenskyi also spoke today about kursk oblast, he said that that the physical presence of ukrainian troops in kursk region is a way to compensate for the lack of range. let's listen to zelenskyi. the physical presence of our forces in the kurdish region, our active actions to destroy the russian threat. on its own territory - this is , among other things, a way to compensate for the lack

of range. we continue our activities in the designated areas exactly as ukraine needs. during this day, there is more of our control, there is another replenishment of the exchange fund. mr. yevhen, today it became known that the minister of defense of ukraine rustem umierov, the head of the president's office, andriy dermak, are scheduled to be handed over this week in washington. the administration of president biden , the list is all deep in the territory of russia, counting on the fact that the americans will allow us to attack with missiles from the depths of the russian federation, whether the kurdish operation of the armed forces of ukraine is convincing for our western partners, and whether it can convince them that with long-range weapons we can do much more. these are two completely different issues. i'll start with how general. there is a kursk operation convincing for our allies, i regularly monitor the western press, and as you know,

with the kurdish operation we completely changed its entire tone, its entire narrative, but before the start of the kurdish operation, to be honest , reading the western press was morally more difficult for me than the ork press the public, because from time to time you can at least laugh at ork publics, but there were already all these washington post and new york times already... it was very unfunny, i don't know if everyone in our country paid attention to this, let's say, because we only partially have, let's say, reposts, oh, but when you read all of this in the original and constantly, well, we were actually buried there, the narrative that it was impossible to defeat russia, it was necessary to negotiate, it was necessary to freeze the conflict, freezing the conflict means freezing it on putin’s terms, that is, in fact , dominated there our surrender. a part of the western media simply openly rocked for it, they simply drowned it, you can say for it, a part shed crocodile

tears, that they are very sorry for us, well, but what can you do, well, it is impossible to defeat russia? yes the kurdish operation completely changed everything, the kurdish operation in general just excuse my rudeness, but it silenced all those who were trying to force us to freeze all the time, the thesis about the invincibility of russia is completely removed, now it is being discussed, first of all, whether it is worth it to give us to defeat russia, well, let's say, another part of the allies is discussing what should be done to defeat russia, but again for the first time after, well, let's be honest, after the failure of our offensive in 23, for the first time again it is considered it is obvious that, in principle, russia victorious, that it can be defeated, then there are already questions, i say technical, as not everyone is happy about it, but still... this story, that is why the tone of our allies has changed radically, in this sense, the kurdish

operation is our greatest military success in general after the liberation of kharkiv oblast and kherson in the fall of 22nd year, but here is a separate and sadder story, this is a question of long-range strikes, so i am afraid that nothing will change before the elections in the states, the impression is that we are stuck - in certain, shall we say, personal characteristics of grandfather biden, that is, which, because of which he is simply not able to step over, this panic fear of escalation is so deep in him, that... panic fear to do anything that, in his opinion, could force russia to unpack its nuclear war chest. he has such a great fear that it would be entirely his will, and if he believed that in order not to unpack the nuclear weapon, it is necessary to simply surrender ukraine, well, believe me, he would surrender, but thank god, in the states he is not the only one

who makes all the decisions, but those who are from him it depends on the direction, well, we see it, that's a long shot. in russia, for him, they still remain outside the boundaries of these red lines, and if our kermanychs manage to convince him that in fact these red lines exist only in his head, well, it will simply be a fantastic success, i would not hope for it yet, but until things about red lines, well, grandfather biden is really a separate story, i would say on the border of psychiatry, but the absolute majority of western experts were convinced by the kurdish operation in particular. that there are no red lines, but once upon a time it was believed that the strikes on crimea were red lines, but then it was thought that, well, what, the strikes on russia are already red lines, drones flew even over moscow, but even after that it was considered that, well, what, but direct the military occupation of a part

of the territory of russia, well, this is already such a red line, well, it’s downright crimson, you can say, well , what, well, we’ve already... three weeks since we crossed this line, and what, and nothing, and the kurt region banal, they simply fill the ranks with soldiers, they surrender in packs, we advance further, and where is the red line, the course operation brilliantly showed that the red lines are in fact, just like the russian classic about the fact that destruction is not in the closets, destruction is in the heads, so the red lines are not on the map, the red lines are only in the heads, i’m afraid biden is not yet finished realized, but... many people in the west already realize. thank you, mr. yevgeny, for the conversation, it was yevhen dyky, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are now watch us on these platforms, please support our pages, support our stream, like and participate in our survey. today we ask you

about the following: have you come across armed propaganda in telegram? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube. if you have your own opinion, please leave it in the comments below this video. if you watch us on tv, take your smart phone or phone and vote for the numbers. if you encountered hostile propaganda in telegram 0800 211 381 - 0800 211 382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. and then, we have oleksandr khara on the phone. diplomat, foreign and security policy expert of the center for defense strategies. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, mr. sergey, thank you for the invitation. mr. oleksandr, let's start our conversation with the statements of the russians, which they began to make after the armed forces of ukraine entered

the territory of the russian federation in kurshchyna. russia has said that they are refusing under the current conditions. refuses to go to any negotiations with ukraine, before that there were publications in the western press that a meeting between the russians and ukrainians was supposed to take place in qatar on august 22, they were supposed to agree on some plan, no blows, i will say so, no blows on the energy infrastructure , on critical infrastructure, kremlin spokesman dmytro piskov was just commenting on information about the possibility of negotiations between ukraine and russia, and about which the washington post wrote that he said you know that the topic of negotiations has not quite lost its relevance now. a lot of messages about various contacts are published in zmi, and not all of them are actually true. the kremlin speaker also claims that there were no negotiations before the operation of the armed forces in the kursk region.

we know, in fact, that the russians always lie and in... piskov can also be trusted or should not be trusted, but is kurshchyna an occasion for the russians to talk about the fact that we will not talk about peace at all, since you entered our territory, we will now continue the war, although the nature of the war for 2.5 years showed that putin did not want these peace talks, he only had one plan, the plan to surrender ukraine, which he tried. . implement, or is it? well, first of all, we cannot rule out the fact that the ukrainian side was really negotiating with the russians regarding a moratorium on strikes on ... critical energy infrastructure, of course, that the russians have been targeting our energy facilities since the 22nd year, and

in fact, since last year, we quite actively began to destroy russian refineries, and this, of course , hits them very hard, and i do not rule out the fact that we will resume these negotiations, since in fact it is also beneficial for us, because russia has the opportunity with these mass attacks after all to destroy our... infrastructure, and it is clear that without energy we will have a very difficult situation both for civilians and for the economy , including the defense-industrial complex, and we also periodically conduct negotiations on the exchange of prisoners of war, therefore, separate negotiations, this and that is normal, it is absolutely possible to conduct, if we talk about ending the war, then russia's position was the usual traditional one, you know, jesuit, they uh... their formula was that we never refused negotiations with ukraine, but we made demands , which they put forward, they were completely unacceptable to us, they were in fact a capitulation, and

russia's receiving was even more than it was able to absorb and actually control, so of course, this balancing act is diplomatic or political, it does not correspond reality, it is clear that the kurdish counteroffensive operation. and i think that's a very apt term, not an invasion, there or otherwise, that's what ben hodges suggested, because really the entire territory of the russian federation is a legitimate target for ukraine, and it's clear that we have no intention of annexing those territories, so that's part of of our, shall we say, general war, and this is a counter-offensive operation, it hit putin very hard, by and large it lasted for a long time. time the first actions of our defense forces, the result of which there were not only, well, at the moment quite significant military results, this is the territory

under control, this is also the replenishment of this exchange fund, and this is the accelerated destruction of russian forces and means, most importantly, these are dilemmas for putin, political, for a reason he called counterterrorism operation, what he is going to do on the course. that is, he did not declare martial law even in violation of his own law on defense, did not introduce those legal and other mechanisms that would be required, or rather required from him by russian legislation, well, common sense, but he cannot do this, because the next step should be a general mobilization, and this is an extremely unpopular thing, now they can buy the poor from all corners of russia, they can throw... forces from donbas or mercenaries, wagners from africa, and if there is a general mobilization, it will affect the big cities, this is of course the so-called social

contract that putin has made with the russians that they do not get involved in politics, but he does not actually demand great sacrifices from them, it will be violated, of course it will, it will affect his, let's say, the stability of his regime, and most importantly putin's formula. and in general, all this russian camaraderie, about the fact that ukraine needs to recognize the situation on the ground, it does not work, because it means that he must also recognize that part of his territory is written in the constitution, which is recognized by the whole world, and of course ukraine , is under the control of ukraine, and it is clear that he cannot do such a thing, so i would not say that something has fundamentally changed, the russians were not ready. to real negotiations, we are not trust because they've violated everything imaginable in terms of agreement and bilateral agreements and international law,

what they're saying now is just rhetoric and i don't think we should, let's say, pay attention to it, and for sure another very important point is that with our counteroffensive operation we discouraged our friends and those who doubted ukraine from two things. the first is to use what is such a phraseology, that this war has come to a dead end, that ukraine is not even able to defend its territory and surrenders 100 m there, for a week of territory in the east, that is, this rhetoric is no longer relevant, because we have shown the ability to concentrate forces and means and conduct military operations absolutely in accordance with western standards, and the second point is about peace, again. they tried to pressure us into certain compromises, actually based on the false idea that there is, therefore, first and

foremost, a dead end, and secondly... that any, any war ends with negotiations and the time has come for ukraine, which tired, and the ukrainians do not want to continue fighting, so a window of opportunity is opening, that's why thank god that these two positions are no longer relevant now. mr. oleksandr, yesterday , when russia launched a massive attack on the territory of ukraine, putin held a meeting and spoke about the russian economy. the meaning of what putin said was that the success of the russian army in the war against ukraine is the main condition for the further development of russia. let's listen to this small fragment of what putin said. today i propose to discuss the main directions of economic policy for the period up to 2030, including the strengthening of the economic

base. successful completion of the special military operation, this, as i have already said, is the main, basic condition for the implementation of russia's long-term development plans. did i understand correctly, mr. oleksandr, that in this case putin is saying that only by destroying ukraine do they have a chance for long-term development. of course, you know, there is such a metaphor as a monkey has grabbed a nut and... cannot let it go, because greed is oppressing it and it cannot pull its hand out of the suburbs, and russia itself is in such a position, because now international sanctions, no matter how much we criticize them, and indeed they did not give the result that we expected that russia would sprinkle earlier, but it is clear that in a strategic perspective they are undermining the russian economy, and

russia will not be able to ... basic things for several years, and the second point, of course, that only with the end of the war, putin can hope that this sanctions regime will begin to fall, and russia will have the opportunity to both use the western financial system, and receive technology and hope for the return of certain companies, so of course he is right about this, too he is right from the point of view that now up to half of the russian budget... goes to the war and things related to the war, and of course starting with the actual weapons, those salaries and those extra payments to the military, but also those investments that go to defense - the industrial complex, well, of course, everything is connected with the war economy, and it is clear that even the russian economy, which is larger than ours, which has found the opportunity to circumvent sanctions in certain

issues, it still... suffers from this war and therefore only with the end of the war, these resources can be distributed in some way and you can hope for a return to the peacetime economy there, and of course, plus, putin would like to get access to our resources in the captured territories, and actually, let's put it this way, you also know this, you can also use such a historical metaphor as .. the mongol empire was expanding, they seized certain territories, converted those people in those territories into troops, and actually owned those resources in those territories that were in order to expand further, and actually the model of the russian empire was constant expansion, they for this you need resources, and of course they use the resources of the conquered peoples, as human resources, of course natural minerals there or in our case it

can be some infrastructure there or. enterprises, so yes, putin is right, but i think that, well, at the rate that they are fighting, will we ever be able to end this war, of course, there are limiting factors for us as well, first of all, it is a deterrent in washington, which actually does not allows us, let's say, to achieve the results we hope for faster, therefore of course putin, putin is trying to show confidence and... i think also the factor of waiting for the arrival, maybe the arrival of trump should not be written off, because trump is very broad, but constantly says that he will negotiate, he will put pressure on both leaders countries and that he can actually end this war in 24 hours, so all these things naturally influence putin, well, i will probably say more.