own ballistic missile, and it became interesting, again, what it might be about, can you tell us a little bit about it? well, actually, i don’t know what it is about, because neither the name nor the characteristics were announced by the president during the press conference, well, let’s say you had some developments, so by 2022 we had the development of an operational-tactical - of the grym-2 missile complex and... this particular missile, this particular complex, was at the test stage at the time when the full-scale invasion of ukraine began, which was his fate later, nothing is known at all, that is, all the information about him is from 2019, first of all, it was minimized, there was even information that this project was closed in general, but it could not be complete.

at least for one such reason, which is that the investments in this project were saudi, that is, it was saudi arabia that also ordered this otrk for itself, and at least to fulfill the obligations for the supply of this complex to this country, they had to be completed be these jobs, but with on the 22nd, there is no information, the russian occupation resources are propaganda. resources since the 22nd year have occasionally claimed that their positions are being fired upon by the grim-2 otrk, but no verified evidence of this has been presented, because any missile, especially if we are talking about an operational-tactical missile complex , she leaves something behind, apart from the obviously killed occupiers, and well, for example, the same engine, ah, when the first rocket strikes were made... attacks on the positions of the russians

occupiers in 2023, the russians presented the engine itself as proof that ukraine uses atakams, but no evidence that we used grim-2 according to the positions of the russian occupiers was presented , no spare parts or elements of this particular missile were presented, so i do not rule out , which is the rocket that volodymyr was talking about. zelensky, it may be a missile of some new type with new characteristics, with new indicators, but still, no one would give up the base that is already available, that is, the development of thunder 2, it is completely could become the foundation for the further development of a new ballistic missile, is it possible that this is exactly what the grim-2 is, but with much different characteristics due to the use of western technologies, well, what do you think... you think from

scratch, it is unlikely that you could do something, or after all why not, why, why do it from scratch, when there is already a developed ballistic missile, when there is a project, and it can be taken as a basis, the very architecture of the missile and used already with some completely different elements. the problem with thunder 2 was that it was being made when we didn't have access to western technology, it was minimized so we had to make do with what we had, and of course now that we have more access to western technology in the missile industry as well, it can be really a much better missile precisely because of this, but still, which is based accordingly on an architecture that has already been tested in its time, how can you imagine what distance we can talk about? minimum 500 km, why i say

minimum 500 km, because thunder 2 itself, it already had a limit of 500 km, just for use by the ukrainian troops, for the saudi customer, it is in accordance with the international requirements for the export of missile technologies, missile weapons, it is 300 km, and at that time we already had this limit of 500 km, but even at the time when we did not even have the possibility of access to... western technologies in sufficient quantity and volume, options for increasing this distance were considered in the future, i.e. more than 500 km, so i say minimum, it can be 700 and 800, even a thousand, well, what if say more this is also information about such an unmanned polyanytsa missile, which also appeared with us, what can be said about it, how far it can be there, how far it can be? massively applied, so

that's the thing, there is almost no information, except that we only know about this sentence that it has a turbojet engine, that is , its speed is much... greater than the speed of the average kamikaze drone that is used defense forces of ukraine on the territory of the russian federation, and now we already see that our drones, they can cover distances of 100 km, 1.5, two, even 2.5, i don't think that the palyanitsa can cover 2,500 km, because after all, there are completely different indicators of fuel consumption, it is spent on... much faster , because it is a turbo jet engine, but on the other hand , they cover distances much faster, and this, let's say, shortens the time period for the russians to react to this threat, for example, if we talk about airfields, then the same

morozovsk airfield, there constantly lately pilots were on duty, they were fixed on duty and when our drones took off in the direction of the drones in the direction of morozivsk, when they received the first... information that the drones were being fixed on the flight of the drones, they raised their planes, that is, there was an alarm, the pilots on duty who were on duty raised sut-34 aviation and redeployed it to the brain, and there were not always enough pilots, and those planes that remained in morozovsk were directly flown by our drones, but they tried to minimize ... losses among their combatants in this way planes, in the case of a flare, they will have much less time to react to these threats, and it will reach morozovskaya much faster and make the appropriate strikes on this object, and this applies not

only to airfields, it applies to almost all those the targets that we are interested in hitting, by the way, even the oil depots, a very interesting point, because... they are now trying to protect their tanks with oil products, with oil products, with a net, they are covering them with nets and thus trying to protect them from those drones averages that we use to hit these objects, but if we are talking about such a high-speed target as a sawmill with a turbojet engine, then this grid, well , it will not help at all, well , the russians spread such... information, well, well, and there are already such sources in the west that it is as if they began rebasing the aviation, considering even the possible damage by atakams, which have not yet been given the opportunity to fire on russian territory, it is as if the russians are rebasing

the information of the aviation to more distant airfields and they say that's why there is no point in using atakams and there is no point in using other weapons, because they have already discovered all this in... i understand that when it concerns, for example, the same clearing, then this is all rebasing, it is somehow does not have any meaning anymore, yes, in principle, no, it does not exist, but it also makes it difficult for them to use the same tactically, the same tactical aircraft, because the greater the distance, it needs more fuel, it uses up more resources. less payload can take a plane with the same bombs to fly to the very location where these bombs will be dropped and so on and so on, but the fact that now there is such a refusal, they say, why do you want to attack

the territory of the russian federation , they are rebasing their aviation in other directions, well, i do not agree with this, if only because we do not only attack airfields, there are warehouses. with ammunition there are command posts, control posts, headquarters, in the end, military units, warehouses with equipment, where exactly the atakams, they would show themselves very and very effective, and the kamikaze drone, well, when there is an accumulation of equipment, for example, there are 50 units, 70 units of equipment, well, somehow they hit with one drone, hitting some motor vehicle there. or even bbm, well, it’s damaged, okay, but when the atakams cluster combat unit falls apart, over such a large amount of equipment, dozens of units are simultaneously damaged, and even dozens of units of this equipment are destroyed, so the refusal, well, to put it mildly, it is

so weak unprofessional, let's call it that, well, let's talk about the main, probably, story that is currently being discussed, all this capture of novohorodivka is very quick, well, almost in three days, we hoped that it would be longer, and here, let's ... let's start with why novohorodivka is actually so important , why is this news so irritating, well, there was a seizure in less than three days, the first assault actions on the southeastern outskirts of novogorodivka began on august 21, and now the russians are actually at the railway junction, that is, they do not yet control the mine area and they do not control ... novogrodovo tarikones, but they approached them almost close to them, that is, they control

about 95% of the city itself, and this is really such an unpleasant, this is an unpleasant surprise, because grodivka and novogrodivka, ah, they could be included in the general line of defense grodovka, due to the fact that it is located on the zhurafka river. which is naturally convincing, and in the event of the destruction of all the bridges and the withdrawal of our troops to the very right bank of the crane, this would allow holding this line of defense, well, for example, as the canal is now held in the temporal ravine, and on the right on the bank of the canal, how is the defense held, and below are already reservoirs and cascades of reservoirs, lakes, reservoirs and... this would also prevent the russian occupiers from effectively conducting offensive actions, and all these are natural obstacles, they

close directly to novogrodivka, which has already artificial obstacles, this is a railway, this is a railway junction, and these are directly mines and these are artificial heights, these are terekons, one of the ones with the highest height in this location. almost 90 m, so all this would comprehensively create a boundary that would slow down, and possibly would have stopped the onslaught of the russians, but this did not happen, i am really surprised that novogrodivka was so quickly captured by the russian invaders, although i am not surprised at all in the turetsko-pokrov direction, because ocheretine also had the opportunity to hold the defense for several months, but it was captured for where... a few days, in the area of ​​turetska, the eastern borders, the eastern lines of defense between horlivka and turetska,

directly in the area of ​​shuma, they were formed in such a way as to withstand offensive actions by the enemy for a long time, also for several months could hold out, but were captured in a few days to a depth of 2.5 km along a front of 5.5 km, so the turkish-pokrov direction is kind of, well, i don't know... very strange in terms of launching hostilities, but here the question is not so much for the military servicemen of the rank and file, but rather for other personnel, because the guys are there, it is true, they hold on, they get the most of each position, but there are nuances already with management, management with the conduct of hostilities itself. well, the fact is that it concerns all the named... points and ocheretina, and noises, and novogrodivka, well, one could say that these

are unequipped positions on which it is impossible to fight, but when we talk about these points, we are talking, unfortunately, about equipped positions, that is, it was the equipped positions that were left, and here the question arises , still, why, why does this happen, at least there are some, well at least some versions, which are not enough. happen, no, well, this is known, for example, any option when to raise, the same turk, turkish agglomeration, simultaneous rotation of two combat-ready experienced brigades, here is the answer, who does it at the same time, and here is the failure of the defense right near turetsk, the west of the russian occupiers is very fast within the limits of the agglomeration itself, the same situation was near ocheretyn, by the way, eh... immediately rotation, immediately rotation of a combat-ready unit, and the russians took advantage of this, well, it’s

already some kind of , you know, well, some kind of walking on a rake, because we are talking about such captures during the rotation, well, since the 22nd year, we have heard, this is some kind of simply repeating such and such a story, and the second story that is repeated is the movement of the russians along the railway, when oh... for some reason they are moving there and for some reason every time it is something the news is literally about the fact that they will move there and will definitely pass there, and somehow no one is for it, it is a classic of the soviet offensive, it is a classic of the soviet. offensive, i.e. anyone who has studied or encountered precisely the soviet strategy, the tactics of conducting military operations, it is all tied precisely to the railway, the entire movement of russian troops, it completely coincides with the soviet system, that is, it is a movement along the railway, it

explained by many factors, by the way, this is not unreasonable, it is not only logistics, as you can imagine that it is logistics, it is also is related to the soil, where the railway is laid, there is more or less stable soil, and in this regard, the advance there for the mechanized component is more, let's say , comfortable, that's why railways were always used in soviet tactics, as the main directions of road and railway development, well, how can you... you can assume, well, who should, well, be responsible, who should ensure that it is not news every time that iron will move , well, along the railway, somehow be prepared for this fact, and the second, well, actually, in order not to lose such prepared positions, who

is responsible for this, at what level should this responsibility be, well, this... you are talking about the level of responsibility, but it is also at my level, so that someone to blame, there are competent bodies for that, which conduct the relevant investigation and draw the relevant conclusions, but as for ocherin and turetsky, well , this is known, this person is no longer in his position, he was dismissed from his position, but nevertheless, he should also be responsible for these failed decisions which accepted, then regarding... novogrodivka, well here, again, each case requires a separate investigation, because we are not talking about, well, actually, not about any jokes, this is serious, we must understand that we are there now in the defense-type strategy stage, as the goal is to exhaust

the enemy, how can you exhaust the enemy, exhaust the enemy can be transformed. is every meter of our territory a hell for them, so that they lose much more resources than we do, every settlement, every village must turn into a hell for them, and in fact partially, that’s how it is, the yar has turned into hell for them, the robot ledge has turned into hell for them, the northern direction, this is hell for them, and again, the srebyansk forestry, the kupinsky estuary 8. they have a lot here are such locations where they lose a huge amount of resources and cannot achieve any kind of success, in turn , the turkish-pokrov direction is dissonant, in fact it is dissonant, there are some locations where the meat grinder is really full for the russians, well, for example, and the baby girl, she changed

they are really on a meat grinder, a lift, a meat grinder, now they are trying to go to... herring storming herring, but it turned into a meat grinder for them, and novogrodivka, yes, it was difficult for them to pass, but novogrodivka is for them did not turn into the hell it could have become, just as it was planned, and karlivka, karlivka near the karliv reservoir, turned into this hell, they can’t do anything about it now, they constantly storm karlivka, but the result in them we see that zero, they are trying now it... to go around it by moving from novogrodivka to the south, uh, and there are a lot of dissonances right here, and you still have to understand, figure out who is to blame for these dissonances that arise, because somewhere this is a really powerful defense , and somewhere, well, to put it mildly, something very strange is happening, well, what are

the prospects for the defense of pokrovsk after the loss of novohorodivka, in my opinion, now the main goal of the russians is to create a southern flank, after they entered novohorodivka, and because if they continue their movement directly in the direction of pokrovsk, then in they have the problem of the southern and northern flanks, well, the northern flank is more or less tied to the reeds, the same as the track 05:11 odvyzhanku, they are not so concerned about it, especially... taking into account the turkish agglomeration, where now battles will begin, but the southern flank, especially taking into account not only seledov, but also taking into account hirnyk, izmaivka. kurakhiv, kazoryans, that is, they are concerned that there may be a breakthrough through the karlov reservoir and to the north along the vovcha river, and then a serious

the potential may be that the russians are surrounded, so they will now be engaged in the formation of the southern flank, and it will take some time, that is, the main offensive on pokrovsky itself, it can be postponed, well, somewhere around the end of september before the beginning. of october, although we have encountered the unpredictability and neglect of human resources on the part of russian commanders more than once, because now they do not carry out regrouping at all, they constantly create conditions for offensive actions, they have a constant intensity of combat operations in one way or another direction, therefore it is quite possible that they will try to immediately continue their movement in the direction of pokrovsky, although again, without the formation of the southern flank , they will not dare to launch a full-fledged offensive and storm pokrovsky. well, let's hope that they won't be able to move quickly after that, but you see, the hopes are not very high. thank you, oleksandr kovalenko, the military-political observer of

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the pokrovsky direction, we just talked about it, tell me what is happening there now, what is the situation, what is the situation, because we only hear about the fact that, well, in fact , there are a lot of assaults, what, what kind of assaults , with which they storm. well, actually speaking, the situation is not varies, several weeks if not more. assaults are going on, mainly infantry, the enemy has not used mass equipment for a long time, because we are still in the spring, it was in april, may, when they went in columns, they were tank columns, there were armored vehicles, we very actively destroyed them and... they changed tactics and switched to the tactics of small infantry groups. that is, reconnaissance by battle, two-three-four people,

two-three-four fighters go and try to seize, well, scout first and then seize our positions in larger groups. now we see that... the enemy is already sending groups like one or two detachments, 10 men, 20 men are going, well , to capture one of our positions or even the entire landing, that is, well, as far as i understand, from what i know, they have reinforcements, here is the infantry components goes, not weakening, but strengthening, that is, it can even be said that some additional people are being charged to you there, right? well, it turns out that yes, as far as i understand, yes, but tell me, well, when, when they try to do it, now there is, you can somehow distribute it like this, that more at night, there,

more... the day there, that is, when, or whether it somehow depends on the weather, the hour, the day , how it is now, depends, depends on many factors, and of course they try to do it more often, well, in basically, according to my observations , there have been no changes in this regard for a long time, closer to the morning, here. closer to the morning, they try to go, which means that they have changes there, a change in their calculations and their teams is visible, well, at the same time , they advance to storm our positions somewhere early in the morning, this often happens, well, how does it affect our defense, that is, what

then... when it comes to such small infantry groups, what should we use, drones, some other ammunition, artillery, that is, what is the best way to deal with it, actually, well advice, how to counter this, mainly, of course, it’s a drone component, from our side, it’s fpv, drops from other drones, from mavics, we’ve actually been using this tactic for a long time against small infantry groups too, because they move quickly, and while let's say a mortar or artillery is fired at them, or something like that there may be a grenade launcher there, let's say, yes, any, well, they just go

faster, and the drones themselves, it's the most effective to use against them, exactly the drones. and do they have any way of countering the drone, what they can counter, which is exactly what our drone operators have to deal with? of course, they have a variety of countermeasures against drones, electronic warfare devices, they also have a trench reb, they also have... actually infantry, an infantry version of this reb, it fits in backpacks, in principle, these are rather not very large devices, no each, absolutely not every group of them has such devices with them, but of course it is more difficult for our pilots to work when there is a fighter with such a system in the group, and what is she doing,

she is. silenced, that is, the drone falls, or what is she, what is she like, how does she solve this problem? yes, it's, well, mostly it's suppression of the video signal, but less often it's suppression of the control signal as well, but mostly the video signal, and it's ineffective for them, because our pilots are quite highly skilled, they can... actually by inertia on the last stage, when they go to the target, they chase the drone , the pilot only controls the drone, the drone is already going to the target by inertia, and as they once said, i follow the instruments, the picture at this stage is not mandatory, so we fight, hit the targets without looking to the fact that they, too, of course, have means of countering drones, and russia has always

been known in principle for, well , powerful means of radio-electronic warfare, but the situation on our side is leveling off, i would say, it has been leveling off lately situation, well, so are we now we are collecting for rap, you see, we also have the same collection as for drones and for rap, so in this regard we are also trying to help as much as we can, but tell me in general, how do you assess the ratio? our such drones to theirs, well, that is, after all, it is also now parity or not parity, but from your side, how is it? again, i can only say from my experience from the area where i am, it is close to parity, yes.