about cultural news, alena chikchenina, our art watcher, is ready to tell, good evening, the presenters, who have become familiar to many, are already next to me, ready to talk about the weather for this weekend, as well as the distinguished guests of the studio. mustafa dzhemilov, the leader of the crimean tatar people, is in touch with us, mr. mustafa, greetings, good day, events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for intelligent and caring people, in the evening for espresso. mr. taras, thank you very much, first of all, for agreeing to the interview, well, you are already used to, for sure, that you everyone calls me a legend, and i congratulate myself on the fact that i finally met a legend, i am your supporter for a very long time, but we are talking about the days of independence of ukraine, and when they talk about the day of independence, they always touch more on the past, it is history, achievements, heroes, but i still... i would still like from the future, i

was talking to my friend just yesterday, he is a very young guy, and i said, i promised that i would communicate with you, it was such a violent reaction, he said that he a terrible fan, he began to write to his friend that ms natalya will meet with taras petrinenko, they listen to your music, the patterns of the paths are very small, they are very small, by the way, i was impressed, to be honest, and he says: please ask mr.... taras, i wrote it down for myself, he, why are you so cool, that's what he asked to ask, and that's why i pick up on this idea, and ask you why you are so cool, and seriously speaking, what shaped you in your opinion, roots, mother, father, environment, maybe some kind of authority, environment, but whatever you can say about it, why are you so cool, it's better to be cool than not cool, i am very grateful for such an assessment. and what shaped me, and my mother, and

my father, and my environment, and well, a lot of things, and maybe my love for nature, for everything, for everything, something that never disappoints, and well, as a result, i became who i became , but i already took place many years ago, i am already slowly moving towards some kind of epilogue. and so, in fact, all my life i tried to choose the right path, you can say so, every person always faces a choice at this or that crossroads, and of course i sometimes made mistakes, sometimes i probably made some shameful things, i won't remember them anymore, i don't want to remember them, and like every person, they can't be completely righteous, well, i also probably have some skeletons in my closet, but at the same time... in everything i tried to be

frank, honest and not to cause harm to anyone around him, and to carry, say, from the stage or in his works something that could benefit people, this is the most important thing, not something that they will jump to and, let's say, just have fun, because for this there are other performers, for some reason i have my whole life, starting with well in fact from a young age. i tried to do something that would leave a trail of cocaine on me to the place where we, not soon, our pinets, it might be with our hearts, melted away the moons.

then i'll say it here. ukraine, ukraine. on the heart, i steal from you.

osyna, i'm a fool, but then, you were so young, didn't you already think at a young age that i, who i should be left alone, maybe after all someone influenced you in this sense, well, the fact that i was beaten , if born, i should be, i was either a pianist or a conductor in my time, well, classical music, academic music, but... the flowers knocked me off this peg, and i decided that i will do exactly this, because it is a very democratic form of art, a song or such works, this actually also applies to the poetry that is laid in the song, because for some reason

we have little now pay attention to what word is embedded in each song, listen more, or even do not listen, and if they react, themselves? these were for me , to be honest, they were discoveries for me, because always taras petrenko is music, and the fact that these are your texts, i just like them very much positively, for some time i was looking for some poets who could give me some, some texts, from which i could do something that i like, what i like, and it turned out that there are such poets around me, at least not, and i had to try to do it myself, at first there was something very... yes, as they say, clumsy there, but gradually it somehow turned out that when a person has critical thinking and is critical of his creativity, sooner or later late something may come out of it, you mentioned bitus, very interesting, me i sing in an amateur baroque choir, and we

recently had a concert and we were there, well, obviously in the arrangement we performed a choir, a large choir, 40 people, we performed a beatles song, and at first we were very worried about how it would turn out, it turned out well, and i i thought, what would it be... a great idea for taras petrynenko, for example, to perform in the choir, you know, these kinds of collaborations are very interesting. special, look, i also wanted you to know what to ask, i almost always ask this to everyone, and i ask myself this on august 24, what is personal independence for you and what is the independence of the country for you, what would you sacrifice for your independence, to keep it, what sacrifices could you make , and i 'm spying here, yes, and in order not to lose the country's independence as well, what are you ready for, well, sincerely yes, and personal independence and the independence of the country, what does this mean for you? well, in fact, these are identical things, because

my independence depends directly, probably , on how independent my country is, but independence is not enough, i apologize, because here independence in itself is a good word. and we should probably also pay attention to what is happening in this country, which calls itself independent, because, let's say, now we know who our main enemy is on our borders, what kind of war is currently going on, but time from time to time and practically every day , one or another internal enemies appear here in our country, and something must be done about it, apparently. because independence is a good thing, but someone takes advantage of that here is democracy, and even with that church, well , the moscow patriarchate, you understand how many people tried to get out of it in one way or another, so as not to take part in banning it, well, can't you see that this

church is simply destroying our country and, accordingly , our independence, and unfortunately, there is a lot of independence, it is a process, it is not what happened there on the 24th, 91st year like this, and that is, it is necessary to confirm all the time that we are independent, that we are moving in the right way, and this is for today, confirmed by our soldiers who die every day for this independence and for this country, you understand, and at this time, i don’t even know how to say animals, well, i don’t want to offend animals, those inside the country are trying to destroy it in one way or another, it’s me, it’s me... it’s very confusing, well , we’re talking about the war, how can we not talk about it now, you know, i was terribly impressed by this fact, but i’m looking at the date, on june 2, in kyiv, they said goodbye to the paramedic irina, who died in russia tsybuk, and i was terribly impressed, it turns out that she had - this

hospital battalion, she had a dying letter, a dying will, in which she literally asked, i want everyone to sing farewell, to learn at least ten meaningful... songs and sing them in unison to soothe the sorrow with a native song, and she asked for 10 songs to be performed on the maidan, when she dies, and she, unfortunately, died, and among ten of these songs,... and among ten of these songs, two of yours, she asked ukraine, obviously, and spring to go, it's also mine, it's one from my first songs and this is my favorite song if i'm honest, i believe that bad weather and failures will die, your quiet sadness, go away, i want in your eyes. will see again, the sweetness

of the sun is not good, and we have already talked a little about it, what is the meaning of this war for you, but i think that it is normal for every ukrainian, it is clear, what is known, but here are these songs that have already been, and this iryna has already died, she asked everyone to feel... and this phrase really struck me, to learn ten meaningful songs, and will there be new songs by taras petrinenko that we will sing alive, healthy on meetings after winning? you see, i can't wait to do something for some historical moment, to immediately respond and write something, because this is what my colleagues do a lot, and it, to be honest, to me ... well, conjuncture, conjuncture, but we don't take it for conjuncture, something is happening in souls, what is it for, i can't say when

it will appear, i hope that something will also appear, well, something really worthwhile, here, how will it be, when it will be, i want that, that something in i still managed, you have to look at these things a little from a certain distance, you understand there is such a desire, of course, of course, i am still, i am still here with you. another topic i would like to talk to you about is that many ukrainians have gone abroad, and it is no secret that many of them plan to stay there, and what do you think, should we fight for every ukrainian to return, or to allow people to make their choice in peace, and how can we fight for them, on some such human level of ours, you know, well, it's not a simple question, i'll say right away, because... that each person chooses his own path, where he should live, someone said you should live where you're better off,

well if you're better off, if you don't have anything inside you don't hurt when you see what's happening to us here, well that's your choice, but at the end of the day a lot of people i know, who are there, let's say, my godmother with two children, who is also staying now, vitaliy, they are already coming back, well done, here is such an example... i think that he is not alone, people do not find themselves there, it is something else, europe is also not an easy thing, just like america is not an easy thing, well , you also have to look for where your roots are, like they said, where, where is your umbilical cord too buried, well, i would advise you to return here and try, no matter how difficult it is, it will be difficult after the war as well, because during the war these are only problems, after the war they will be gone less is 100%. i'm just the only thing i can, i can call these people just to come back,

because without them, well, there will be someone, someone else, because these are foreign people, i don't know, there are vietnamese, koreans, god is holy, very thank you, mr. taras and i urge all ukrainians to return to ukraine, because i i have nothing against vietnamese and koreans, let's say, but i have against the fact that ukraine will simply not be ukraine anymore, but some kind of vinaigrette. it is a pity, the main thing for us is to wait for the victory, which is of course special, well, of course, that it will happen, i have absolutely all such faith on some such level, well, such, i don’t know, intuitive, our souls sing poems, but the ray of faith is not extinguished, god of ukraine. save my son, lord, have mercy on us, sinful children,

children are not strangers, our father, hear their sincere voice, god, save ukraine. lord, say be please, well, now of course, and it always mattered a lot. and of course the rules of good tone say that the media should always be quarreled, by the way, everyone always curses weather forecasters and tells jokes about them, well, by the way , artists too, but we understand why to quarrel with the media, and why would you praise media now, but especially during the war, well, it depends on which media, because if we are talking about that

one marathon, well, i don’t watch it at all, because everything there is somehow banal, everything is simplified and... and this direction is felt, in which trying to keep our entire population, and those media that try to dig a little deeper, to somehow consider the nature of these things that are happening to us, well, it is sometimes interesting, and again it depends on which journalist takes up this matter, but you watch, sometimes i watch, of course, of course, because it seems to me that you are such a person that you hardly watch tv, no. sometimes i watch, sometimes i watch, i can't say that this is some kind of constant passion, but first of all, now you need to be aware of events and what is being done on our fronts, and what is being done inside the country in general, you just need to come across those people you trust, those who tell you the truth from the screen, and not some clichés that we have, let's say,

accept what is they are standing, they are clearly trying to push someone somewhere... or to extinguish someone, well, it is unpleasant, eh, but tell me, please, what is the role of an artist in your opinion in the formation of eh and civic consciousness and taste, because, well, consciousness is still like that the thing here is that mom and dad can help very well, namely taste, musical taste, and some kind of formation of such a general culture, well, there were such cases, for example, when people were young, they did not know at all. some very famous artist, a very famous writer, they haven't heard of them, it's incredible, simply, should an artist help educate not only youth, but society in general? an artist can and should not be, should not be an educator in such a direct sense of the word, but an artist should have some opportunities

to influence people, i know very well what it is like when you just... like they cut off the oxygen completely and you seem to be gone, how many people were told that petrynenko moved to canada, he lives in canada, now he is not in ukraine, and someone says that he tied his career, i went to canada more than once, and to america and europe, i went everywhere, but i kept coming back, and i guess someone felt, i don’t know, somehow it was nice to understand that you could move me... or to lift someone up, or just push me away, because i, i'm an independent person, i try not to obey anyone, and in fact, that's why i never was a member of any party, because there is discipline, you understand, you must do not what you understand, but what the party said, well, you didn’t try

to exert this influence through social networks, run your blog, some youtube channel, that is, you it's not interesting, the fact is that i'm to... by and large, i'm an introvert, well, it's obvious, so and so, if a person in myself, i observe life, and accordingly, what i bring to people, i bring to the stage, or in some albums, or something else, this is the place where i can communicate with people, and so it's banal, somehow bloggers here all of them, well, i don’t know, there are so many of them already like dogs, well, in general, the internet has done a lot of good, but it has also done a lot of harm, you know, so much crap, like reports... it’s running, i don’t know who is, well, a lot , a lot, here, and that’s why i don’t want to dive into it either, well , well, then, if, i think, yes, well , it can be summed up, if you have your songs, if my young people, friends, young people, you can say, in rapture, they constantly listen to the same patterns of paths in headphones, i think you have already formed this taste, well, that's very good,

i wanted to think so, so it is, i'm just bringing this thought to you, this fact. many of the young people do not know that i exist in the white world, and then they come to the concert by chance and there is some kind of reaction, yes, it's good, it's a shame that somehow it, you know, this time brings to the surface, some simplified things , extremely simplified, overpretended even, yes, yes, yes, because by people who, well, think primitively, or try not to think at all, because it's too much. they are easier to manage, you see, and a country that consists of such people, of course, she will move somewhere, i will obviously go there. i listened to music at the meeting, i remembered something so, so delicate, like patterns, i remembered how we waved lighters in the stadiums to

ukraine, and look, it just hit me so easily, the song red wind, well, it’s not like that there, well but it's just a fantasy, you're a prophet, the red wind blows black dreams from the east to those who are still standing for freedom today, if not you, if not me, guys, let's get together girls... and unite, time he is calling us again, these are amazingly prophetic words, amazingly simple, and i'm just right, it 's been written on it for more than 30 years, about 30, it's fantastic, i thank you very much for this, again, sons of sova, they wanted war, they crave blood, but we will stand up and stop the fierce breath of winter with our chests. who else

stands for freedom today, if not you, if not me, boys, girls, let's get ready, let's be lazy, time is burning again. let's not be afraid in work, let's not be afraid in the mountains, because this is the last chance, i congratulate you on the independence day of our beloved ukraine, and i personally thank you for the patterns ways, thank you very much, thank you for listening, if there is no one to listen, then there will be no need to write, we are listening very much, thank you very much for spring and for ukraine, thank you, let's hope. for that spring, which will put everything in its place, because ukraine can disappear without our love, we must love her, just love and sacrifice a lot for her, i

think, then everything, everything will be fine with us, we are terribly grateful to mr. taras for his meeting, and always at espresso watch us, always at espresso such interesting, incredible ukrainians as mr. taras petrynenko. see this week in the collaborators program. illegitimate ministers of the occupied donetsk region. on the territory of the dpr there is a state constitutional guarantee. how do traitors build political careers under the auspices of the kremlin? i express my support to the commander-in-chief. greetings, i'm olena kononenko, and this is the program of collaborators about traitors who are on call. hearts and wallets went to serve the russian occupiers. in today's issue, i will continue to talk about the bubble ministries that russia is creating in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine and

about those who manage them. in the donetsk region , the rashists created 17 illegitimate ministries. some of them are under the control of russian tourers who have moved to the temporarily occupied territories, and some are managed by local traitors. they proudly call themselves... ministers of the dpr. one of them is mykhailo vasyliovych zhaltyakov, born in 1961, a native of kryvyi rih. he is an honored worker of culture of ukraine. we hope that all events planned by the ministry of culture of russia and the ministry of culture of donetsk people's republic will be successful republic, everything will work for the good of our republic. for the benefit of the whole great country. mykhailo has two higher educations, but looking at... in advance, i will say that they did not add to his intelligence, well, can an educated person thank the russian soldiers. i would like to express special words of gratitude and support

to our soldiers who defend donbas and the whole of russia in advanced positions. we are sure that by joining forces under the wise leadership of our leader, we can achieve victory. in 1982, zholtyakov graduated from the kotlyarevsky kharkiv institute of arts specialty... actor of drama theater and cinema. he received his second education in 2004, when he graduated from the donetsk state university of management with a degree in business administration. in parallel with his studies , since 2003, mykhailo was the chief specialist of one of the departments of the donetsk city center of social services for youth. and in 2006 , he took a position in the department of culture of the donetsk regional state administration and was a leading specialist in the department of arts and education. in general, mykhailo devoted his whole life to culture. it would seem, exactly it was supposed to instill in him a love for ukrainian national traditions and raise a patriot,

but something went wrong. after all, when donbas was occupied by the russian army in the 14th year, zhaltyakov did not leave the captured territories, but stayed in the region, so to speak, to study another culture, russian, although what to study there, but zhaltyakov liked it very much. here is a video where he, stuttering with delight, thanks the russian singer shamanov and invites him to learn russian in donetsk. in the person of all residents of the republic, residents of mariupol, donetsk region. we hope that in the near future you will be with us in donetsk. we wish you creative success and feel like you are russians. for recognizing himself as a russian, mishka received thanks in the form of the post of first deputy minister of culture, the so-called dnr. he organized numerous celebrations in honor of the usurpers, laid out a red carpet for them and, taking a full chest of air, loudly blew into the...

headlights to personally pay tribute to the murderers. on behalf of all cultural workers of our republic , i express my support to the supreme commander-in-chief, the president of russia federation. with such a striking initiative , zholtyakov did not stay as a deputy for long, he became acting minister of culture feykova of the dpr. the chair is higher, accordingly , there are more tasks from the kremlin. complete destruction of ukrainian culture in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine. russification of the bible. technologies, theaters, promotion of the russian military as heroes, and this is far from a complete list of his urgent tasks. i wish that these events would end as soon as possible, and we would all be under a peaceful sky, and feel that we are under a reliable protection for his services, zhaltyakov received the title of honored worker of culture of the donetsk people's republic. there is a distinction from the rashists, now the most important

distinction remains. in the form of suspicion from our law enforcement agencies. another traitor with a mandate, who believed in the russian peace and its prospects, oleksiy serhiyevich shamav, is from donetsk, he is 51. the ministry of justice of the donetsk people's republic is also involved in law-making activities, implementing the state information system. oleksiy has a law degree. in 2003, he graduated from the donetsk institute of internal affairs at the donetsk national university , majoring in law enforcement. since 2006 , he has been conducting an individual law practice, providing his services not only in donetsk, but also throughout ukraine. he was a member of the council of advocates of the donetsk region. shamov also worked in the law enforcement agencies of the donetsk region in the positions of deputy prosecutor and prosecutor. and in the 14th year, he opened his own law firm. when the donetsk region was occupied, oleksiy quickly retrained and learned russian laws and started working according to the rules of the russian federation. on

all issues. i recommend to the notary to apply to the notary chamber of the donetsk people's republic, or to notaries who carry out their activities on the territory of the donetsk people's republic. at first, the traitor provided his legal services to the occupiers and ringleaders of the dpr terrorist organization, for which he was appointed acting director of the department of registration of regulatory and legal acts of the puppet ministry of justice, later shamov was promoted to deputy of the minister of justice, the so-called dn. after years of blind and loyal service to the kremlin, in 2023 he finally earned the seat of the pseudo-minister of justice of the dpr. the ministry of justice will be entrusted with the authority to introduce the register of municipal normative legal acts of the dpr and several other new powers. in addition, the seller also received a russian lawyer's license. on the telegram page of the so-called ministry, shamov tells the public how to cancel.

how to get a work book in the allegedly liberated territories and how to register legal entity, all this, of course, according to the laws of the russian federation. for our part, we advise oleksiy not to forget ukrainian laws, especially the criminal procedure code, according to which sooner or later he will be tried for treason . and finally, i will tell you about one more minister in the dpr, who in a peaceful life did not achieve anything in particular, that is why he decided to realize himself at least with... the occupiers, using all the talents of an adaptor. meet denys ihorovych strelchenko , born in 1976. born in donetsk. the state constitutional system operates on the territory of the dpr guarantee of the russian federation, the minimum wage. almost nothing is known about strelchenko's pre-war life. pomi , the russian media began to promote him, when in 2022 deniska.