feed as energy 145 million little putins, and this is the beginning of the source of putinism, this is the blessing they give. yes, if we stop at khutor mykhaylovsky, it will be a big mistake. i don't want to say in the sense that we should physically remind of the green wedge, the crimson wedge, the yellow wedge, the villages. klin, about ukrainian taganrog, about ukrainian bilhorod, ukrainian kuban, well, in one word, i wanted to name a whole series of extreme territories where the ukrainian presence is, it is centuries-old, centuries-old, that is not what we are talking about now, we we are not talking about this dimension of geography, we are talking now if europe, if the world does not understand. that there can be no victory, in which

the putin regime continues to exist, that there is no negotiation process, when president putin is sitting in one of the chairs, this is the first sign that you have lost, that you are giving some way to feed this mess, it is not for you.. . is needed, i'm talking about the portuguese or the germans or the french, you don't need him, he will take you tomorrow, in what form, let's not guess, i just want to say one thing that today, if you have not solved the topic of security, you have not solved any of the issues that are on your agenda, security is such a thing that knows no borders, regardless of whether you are 600 km or 10. and that is why it is obvious

for the world today that a big task is how to correctly formulate the definitions of exiting the war brought by putin. i just want to emphasize one thing, so as not, no, there, not to give rise to any prejudicial discussions, the presence of putin at any conference, at... the presence of the need for putin's signature on behalf of the prison of nations does not give the answer to our victory, it should not be left for tomorrow, and then we quietly approach the thoughts that i think are very undervalued in today's world. i am afraid, or i am wary, that the syndrome... which we

experienced in the 90s, when the president of the united states comes from the rostrum of the parliament, says in the year 93 that ukrainians, don't you dare to create sovereignty, and george bush , from whom everyone expected support, absolutely, on the streets of kyiv for three months multi-thousand rallies for independence are taking place, the president is the biggest... the state of democracy comes and says: don't you dare to do that, don't dare, to me, and i'm sorry that he went, in my opinion, to kyiv then after moscow or to moscow, well in in any case, it was a visit by the way, i know that the speech he gave in the verkhovna rada, on the way from the airport to leonid makarovich, well, he gave theses or verbally what he wanted to say, so it seems... as i agreed with leonid

makarovich, as the chairman of the verkhovna rada, well in a word, i have a heavy feeling that today the world has stopped and the european one is at a crossroads, if tomorrow after the end of this war we see in the bosom of russia, in the russian model, in its... presence on this political field , i think that we are making a huge mistake, a huge mistake, we are taking the time-out that putin needs most today, in order to then come to the borders of poland, slovakia, bulgaria, and continue to do, well, that evil thing, on on which he saw the russian mission when... you know, for one thing and

the same question, where is the end of russia, where, where are its borders, from peter the great we hear such a historical chronology that... and the borders of russia are where its interests end, a good wording, then the wording of putin in the 2000s, well, more precisely it was in 2006, at one of the language conferences expressed by his wife, reports that were written in the kremlin, and she voiced the position of the kremlin, russia... it ends there, guys, where does русский язык end, for the last three months, putin is conducting an optional historical another, and there is a boy asks a seven-eight-year-old boy

where the borders of russia end, and the boy is trying to remember the geography, to name something correctly, where are these borders. he approaches him like this, pats the head, and if he saves him from this impasse and gives advice to the drunken russian nation, remember, russia has no borders, how are you going with this philosophy, it's not a joke, well, as a president, the president of the country exits, every word, it is official, and he says that his... which 1/8 takes, which leads today, maybe 10 wars, maybe more, even, count in africa, how many wars there are, count africa, count the caucasus, count eastern europe, and this country is a member of

the united nations, the highest security organization in the world, chaired the security council, a member, a permanent member of the security council, this country. the aggressor, this is a country where its leader is recognized as an international criminal, at every step in europe there is a photo, a criminal is wanted, putin and so on and so on, and we live in such a world, this is a country that has not even been formally accepted into the membership organizations of the united nations, well, listen, it's amazing what kind of world this is, so that's what i 'm getting at, that the answer is from russia. nobody can get used to sitting down for negotiations with him today, it means repeating munich in 1938, do you remember when chamberlain flew in, waved one piece of paper and said, i brought you a measure while you were walking, i worked diplomatically,

excellently, i brought you the measure, i was speaking right there in france, and here we are now, listen, we need red lines. it is necessary to listen to what this executioner of nations, prison of nations, speaks warns, this is a territory where under the cover of colonialism more than 100 indigenous peoples live, where every two years someone's native language dies, listen, we are in a terrible world, in fact, and therefore, when in europe about... they will form some kind of tolerance that it is possible to make a deal with this evil for a few years, this is a very wrong policy, on the other hand, ukraine gives you an example of how to fight for your sovereignty, your independence, how

to actually be the armored car of europe. how can in other words, enter the territory of the aggressor's country. and make putin read something from a piece of paper with trembling hands, having gathered his generals and not knowing what to do, it turns out that yes, it was possible, here again, they do not understand what it will all lead to, but we understand that ukraine sometimes shows , just such an example to your words that europe does not know what to do with putin, but at one time in the battle of peregavgamelah, alexander the great showed what could be done with the persian empire by destroying the army that was ten times more, half failed to destroy the world of empires. and the world of the empire collapsed 100 years after the half, that is, now, without taking a certain step, we will just drag it out in time, then there can be, absolutely, paragraph number one: do not look for a partner in putin, he never will be, he is a speculator who today's historical position will be used to knock on

your door tomorrow, and so be wiser, although it's harder to do, certainly the things we 're talking about that the answer to...how to democratize russia, i do not find it in the answer that there will come one ideal democratic force, which now... has 144 million russians, i take this as a conditional figure, there is no such force and there never will be, in the regime of a dictatorship this force feeds putin very well, his power, and his junta. the problem of russia, by the way, is not... only possible in russia, putin's evil triumphs not only because

there are so many in russia, and it is so strong, what we call evil, i think, in the formula of putin's existence, the strongest point is that russia has the most indifferent people, and the indifferent ones they automatically close with... evil, and it, and it triumphs, and it is because of indifference, you know, when you, when you go out on the tver boulevard and stand like that by the monument to the ukrainian prince dolgoruky, you are arrested, when we speak today about a world that is informational and instantaneous. is exchanged, billions of megabytes of memory, more than 1 thousand journalists in

russian prisons, several thousand political prisoners at all levels, local and up to the highest, this is a country that lives among us, how are you going to arrange your future with such inhumans, at all, do you feel no danger from this? the indifference that exists in russia, which is brought up as a political system, not a single state institution works there, there is no parliament, neither the upper house, nor the lower house, this is a printer that will issue you any regulations by the evening, any which, to open a new war in 15 minutes, the document is already signed by putin, any evil, it will be so... especially that the political community, whether in the middle of the country, or in

europe, or in the world, has no way to stop it . sooner or later we want to approach that such a political system with such leadership, which exists today in russia, does not have a green light for its existence in the world, there is none. sooner or later. rather, at the most inconvenient time , they will knock on your door and tell you: what you put to sleep two years ago, three years ago, evil, what you put to sleep, what you did not decide and acted inadequately, now it is knocking on you at the door, and you are poles, or you are german, or you are french, you will give the answer that you did not give 5 years ago. in fact, the awakening of the world is, apparently, uh, if you, if you remember, in the 22nd year, how

french president macron spoke with putin for 16 hours, it's just a miracle, this is one of the leaders of europe, calling the criminal who opened a new world war, what are you asking him about what are you begging him to do, well, at the beginning of the conversation, put up, put up, well, a healthy analysis, will he, in your opinion, let go of the territories he occupied? no, will his plan to escalate to new territories change? no. what is the purpose of your calls? will the election of chancellor scholze take place? and, in one of the interviews, the first interviews, he says that germany will not give to ukraine, as if the question was: what will germany not give to ukraine? no, the question was, what will germany give to ukraine?

so katslav started by devoting 2/3 of his speech to the fact that germany won't give this, that won't give, that won't give, that won't give that, and went, yes, what will germany give? at the end of the speech, he says: "germany will give 5,000 helmets and 25 field bags with a red cross." yes, that's exactly how it was. now listen to chancellor scholz, he rips putin, and even on a human level, without a doubt. patience. he uses the most profound characteristics of order, actions, gestures. listen today, french president macron. as a person, after all, how to say, these scenarios, how to modernize the world, how to learn to respond to the disaster that

russia brings, come to the concept. security and defense policy of europe, along with nato, when the president of the united states of america said that the europeans should rethink their attitude to the formation of nato resources. in parallel, europe is coming to the point that, along with nato, you must have own author's project, which provides an answer to fast security. of europe and where in ukraine one of the most interesting places is allocated there, and where, by the way, the european union commission is currently working on the first security project of europe, and the second commission is how to respond to the challenges that china, the united states of america are bringing to the european economic market . in this way , i conclude that today we are

witnessing a rethinking of many established relations and... maybe russia has come to its senses during the 25 years of putin's reign the lowest point of disrespect for herself and for the politics she forms. i can definitely testify that you will not find russia in the first row of countries that shape the politics of europe or the world, i think they are not in the second either. it is, you know, a bolonochka, on which water, let's not name the leaders of other countries, and no more, and no more, the most dependent colonial state that exists today, and with those unique opportunities, more than 40% of the world's wealth and resources are concentrated in russia , i have two blitz questions and one

a little broader, so that we have time, because we are already here about ukraine and about... perspective. a blitz of questions, well, you know, we need to dispel myths, separate ones, don’t ask, i won’t ask about nuclear weapons, because those documents weren’t signed in your time, but many people say so, well, that’s a common story, but it’s necessary it was pressed in 2008 at the nato summit, and we would have been accepted into nato, then a number of countries gained membership there, there was expansion, and if very briefly, why... then, i understand that it did not depend on ukraine there, remember we are rooting for putin, because of his words, we remember that ukraine is not even a state, but why then, or what they said, here's what they said, that is, you won't be able to catch the conditional chancellor of the federal republic of germany there or someone else to say, well, come on, and as they

argued, as if, well, they don't threaten you, well, what do you want, well, let's start. since 1994, the 1994 memorandum, which, i believe, from the point of view of the mission for the world, ukraine put the last point in the end of the cold war, or as it is called the third war, with its step. i think that the leadership of ukraine at that time treated it exceptionally well with great respect to the mission of guaranteeing the security of ukraine within the framework of the signed document. there are two direct points in the document that testify to the creation of a full guarantee

of your territorial integrity and political sovereignty, and under this document there is a signature: the president of the united states, the president of france, britain, the chairman of the people's assembly of china, one might say, the entire nuclear club, from position 94 -th year, you can read , listen, no country in the world, except ukraine, has such a document, such weight, why in this way, because now it is possible to analyze, yes... already analytically, but what, why weren't tactical weapons brought out for brackets, weren't they limited to carriers and such? else, why did ukraine act the way it did and sign this memorandum? my short answer: we

were then one on one, we were not supported by russia, obviously, in the way that ukraine would like to see the toolkit for the formation of ukrainian security, we were not supported by the united states, because the task of... the third nuclear arsenal must be dismantled , and it united the united states states and russia, and this made it possible to connect the other three members of the nuclear club of the world, and when it was necessary to form even a constitutional period of relations, whether in the 14th year or in the 22nd year, we very hard managed to form a round table of consuls. with our guarantors, and until today, by the way, this five never sat down at the table, well five, not five, but four never

sat down at the table, and in my opinion, this made for security, security policy of the world is a very unpleasant fact of history, i do not know. how the world will speak, for example, with the north korean leadership regarding nuclear disarmament, when the time comes, or with iran, or with iran, or with pakistan, or with three more countries, about which we can already say today that the fact is most likely that they possess nuclear fission, as with them to say, what kind of argument is the nuclear... the world nuclear club will lead them when there is an example of ukraine, which sincerely and openly accepted the proposals of the nuclear club and suffered, well

, by the way, the question, this war, speaking in your opinion, is an agreement today , i don't know at what level or at in what channels, that it will not be completed in any case with the use of nuclear weapons, this is the war that russia started, well , at least now directly... ukraine is participating in it as an adversary-aggressor. the nuclear conflict risk assessment of the nuclear factor by temperature is cooling, cooling, cooling, and the world is coming to understand more that, well, actually, the first sign of putin's death, putin's use of anything in the nuclear arsenal. it's a war with the whole world, it's... it's his personal death and the end of this war, and today about these red lines, somehow not everyone understands where they pass, and that is, actually

at the end, put such a final point and already, because there are still many questions, unfortunately, there is no time. the formula of taras hryhorovych, whom you mentioned several times today, to fight to fight - is a really effective formula, and it is obviously something that should be wished for. today, it is definitely for the ukrainian part, the most important part of the answer, regarding our victory, is the understanding of what is ours power is in our hands, that's the first thing, and that power is formed by national spirit, not ak-47, not s-300, not anything, ah, if you have an indomitable spirit. you are carriers, authors of victory. viktor andriyovych yevshchenko was with us, the president of ukraine. thanks for being with us, listening, stay spresso,

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