shameless instrumentalization of the church in the name of imperial interests, and then obviously that church, which even lost the right to have its own patriarch, turned into a department of the state machine. metropolitan andrey sheptytskyi called it a kazon orthodoxy. here there was obviously a minimum of spirituality and religion, and a maximum of faith. of such state control over the conscience of millions of people, for example, when this autocracy fell during the february revolution of the 17th year, i recall these statistics when for the first time during the first world war , russian soldiers at the front were not obliged to go to battle. by this time, everyone had to go to

confession and receive a certificate of beneficence from the father, ugh, and here for the first time there is no king and there is no longer such a duty. actually then, in the 17th year before easter , only a couple of percent of the soldiers in the russian army went to confession, and this caused a huge collapse of the possibilities of this church at that time. to catch the subterfuge of people, and then everything went down, that is, with the speed of a snowball, which simply washed away this church, then in the bolshevik revolution. unfortunately, all those consequences were fully felt by ukrainians. in particular, when stalin revived the tool of manipulating the religious feelings of believers in the soviet union.

reviving the russian orthodox church, actually concluding a cooperation agreement with it, raising it up, then it became a tool not of the tsarist, but of the communist regime, as it was not surprising, but i remember my childhood seeing orthodox fathers with communist awards, and then the bishops of the russian orthodox church received state awards. for closing churches, our own, well, we, then the children of the persecuted underground church looked at it, well , really with horror, and when ukraine became independent, this independence began to demand certain changes. we all today, er, remember and know the term decommunization, yes, it is in western ukraine. spontaneously began

to happen, that fall of lenin took place back in the 90s, here, but unfortunately, central eastern-southern ukraine lived according to other rhythms, and that's when everything showed up the neo-colonial face of the russian government and the face of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine. then the ukrainian people demanded decommunization, even of moscow orthodoxy on the territory of ukraine. i don't want to go further into the analysis of these processes, because i can be accused of meddling in some orthodox events, but these are more political events, an ordinary citizen of ukraine at a certain moment said to himself: "well, that's enough."

we can be fooled, and it is obvious that today the ukrainian state feels its duty, in particular, in the conditions of a full-scale invasion , to take care of state security, even when it comes to threats to state security, which, therefore, come from the bosom of followers of the moscow orthodox church in ukraine, so i think we should all... be honest, honest with our own conscience, before the lord god and before the ukrainian people. if we really seek god and want to live a spiritual life, then this will be the road to liberation, to freedom, even to the decommunization of the church, even to those new demands that today believing ukrainians consider their spiritual leaders. i can say this not only about

believers of orthodox churches, but also about believers of our church, protestants and other churches. that is, we want to be a free people, and her church as a medium of liberation here must fulfill its mission in new historical circumstances, you know, i remember such two moments that i witnessed 90 there, in my opinion, it was the first year or so, somewhere at the very beginning of independence, alexei came to the second in my opinion, and then he was the head of the russian church, er, and he was... on the black volga, and people were shouting out the moscow priest, that's one thing, by the way, the period of independence was extinguished, there was masolo kravchuk, that was one thing, because i went then, for example, to all these rallies before the verkhovna rada, but the moscow priest was gone , and he was driving such a black volga, and people were chasing him in the center of kyiv, and they

couldn’t escape, there was such a cavalcade of these cars, and they you, that is, people were chasing a moscow priest, it was the beginning of the 90s, and then i remember 2000, god knows what year, when yanukovych was the president, when he was driving kirill was there, and this is such a golden, crowded procession in the center of kyiv, precisely the moscow pope. during this time, the moscow church managed to plant and impose itself so much that from the time when it was chased away, they then turned into a church that went from the volodymyr hill, there was cyril in front and all that, and no one could do anything, they seemed to as reigned here, but you see, now we are coming to the time when they actually end their history. to ukraine, the most important thing here is that i would like your advice, i understand that it is not possible now your congregation may be your congregation, for people who do not understand much, perhaps in politics, in state security, in danger from this church, well, i say, as if ukrainian, but we do not know there with moscow, they do not with moscow, here's how to briefly and simply

explain to people why you don't need the moscow word, you see, i think that we should... our citizens of ukraine should feel responsible for their church, and for what you hear, probably also, and why do you believe that if you feel responsible for your church, then that church can change. i am proud i can say about active ukrainian laymen. of the catholic church, and we are happy that we, as a church, are changing, we are growing, we are looking for new ways, new forms, how to be a church, how to serve god and people, in new circumstances, we are happy to have wise,

active, conscious, responsible marians in our church who can be relied upon. and today, the ukrainian greek-catholic church is not some cold hierarchical structure, it is a living network community, which today covers many countries with that network of presence world, we would very much like to share our experience of church existence, even with our orthodox ones. brothers, don't be afraid, don't be afraid, be active, your fathers can't be your slave owners, don't be slavish in front of spiritual officials,

be able to be open, free, only then you will be able to change that church, children, which you consider yourself to be. i think that lay people, ordinary orthodox believers, can be a catalyst for changes in these churches today. unfortunately, it so happened that russia tried to subdue those post-soviet countries with help corruption, the same thing happened in ukraine, they believed that it was political corruption. financing of various pro-russian political organizations and movements that were engaged in the restoration of various historical so -called events, this was soft power, the kind of soft power with which they wanted to colonize anew,

including ukraine, and here we saw that, so , the moscow patriarchate very actively began to feel like a warehouse. of this whole corrupt system. we see that there has been a merger of corrupt secular power in russia and... and church power, this symphony, it acquired such, well, finally, i would say, disgusting forms, the fusion of the throne and the throne, it led to the final loss of the moral authority of the same church, even in russian society, and this was projected as a model of state-church relations for ukraine, it was about eh... moscow orthodoxy as a state church, and we saw

how moscow politicians behaved, and behave today, in relation to this type of eh church existence, in particular also and and in ukraine, and here all those triumphal bosses, you know, the ones you mention, and it has already started to make everyone cringe, eh, i would like to... we mentioned one such delicate reality even today. today , a huge number of faithful of the moscow patriarchate feel betrayed by their church. i talk to many of them. they feel that the one who should have been their father has become their enemy. the one who was supposed to take care of them finally betrayed them. this does not mean that those betrayals...wounded people will immediately look for another denomination, go to one

or another church. i now have the feeling that many of those wounded, aching hearts will leave the church altogether, and ukraine may be in for a very powerful wave of secularization, that is, a new kind of godlessness and atheism. exactly as it happened in tsarist russia after, that is, after the overthrow of the tsarist throne, and with it the power or power over the people, of the russian orthodox church. i would like you to clarify for our viewers, the issue of behavior, well, here i am reducing the measure of behavior. statement of the actions of the head of the vatican, the head of the roman catholic church

of the church and of the person who sits on the holy throne, because not all people understand why there seems to be peace, here is somehow not such an unambiguous statement regarding the condemnation of the actions of russia or , again, the same moscow church, here is some kind of attempt to unite some ukrainian and a russian woman or something else, to do something like this... a flash mob that seemed to give some idea of ​​reconciliation, and people think that he is for us or for whom, or how to explain it, well, as they say, just explain, why, what is the difficulty today, perhaps the role played by the pope francis, and eh, maybe those things that we don't see, but he also does, and they are very important in the humanitarian sphere as well. and important, well, the whole complexity, perhaps today, of the role and

mission of, er, the most holy father of the pope, as a universal bishop, is how to be a preacher of peace at a time when, er, the third world war in particles begins, it his words, that is, like today uh, let's say, to be the one who should serve... reconciliation between peoples, when peoples start fighting with each other, this is the difficulty, perhaps certain the tension between the local and the universal, it is obvious that we feel that here in ukraine, many problems of the whole world look different, we understand today that reconciliation. between the aggressor and the victim, it is possible

only when that aggressor stops, when the world community condemns him, when that aggressor is forced to compensate for the wrong done, only then can there be a dialogue, a dialogue that, let's say, someday... i hope he culminates in what we call healing of wounds, and therefore reconciliation, so these are all very difficult questions, er, but... "let's let the pope be the pope, and we ukrainians will be ukrainians, i think that everyone will understand everything and us, including when we really win in the battle that we are leading, because maybe this is our , such a mission, to unmask that devil who

attacks us today, to unmask that moscow, which today is no longer..." a carrier of high culture, but a carrier of the latest genocidal ideology, because unfortunately, today the world has the same danger, in where he was, let's say, before the beginning of the second world war war, let's remember that time in europe , everyone wanted to... prevent the escalation of the world conflict, do you remember chamberlain, who was so happy with that piece of paper, so, they say, they satisfied the aggressor, gave him a part of some country there, and now he already satisfied his appetites, then for the average european, the word germany was associated with

high culture, philosophy, music, and the nazis were in power, and then at the end of the second world war, everyone was horrified to ask themselves how this happened it is possible that such a civilized, cultured people allowed themselves to crimes of auschwitz and committed genocide against an entire people, which we call the holocaust today, that is exactly what is being done against russia. russia, in particular, after the collapse of the soviet union, invested huge amounts of money in order to spread the illusion of its high culture. today, when someone is looking for an expert on russia, they will always come across an adept who was raised on the illusion of the greatness

of russian culture. and that's why, whenever they hear about russia today, they will, er, er, first of all boil it down to their own categories their own illusory thinking, without asking themselves what is really happening in russia. in russia today there is, i would say, such a neo-colonial genocidal regime that has nothing in common with the examples of high russian culture, from dostoevsky or the like. other so-called classics of russian culture, in terms of this culture , are no longer there today, and this is a certain shock that perhaps the west is experiencing today, all those who consider themselves experts, and this is our, perhaps, historical role, it is to expose everything, to warn the world, to close it before this

a huge danger, so i hope we will fulfill our... we will win, and then everyone will understand us, i am convinced that the lord god today is always on the side of the one who is a victim of unjust aggression, that the lord god is near , next to us, you said that god is next to us, but i would like to finish with this question, because many people ask today, where is god? and why is this with us, and how jesus was asked whether his parents sinned or he, why is he blind, and here people ask, so who sinned, articles write, intelligent people write, explain why we deserved this war in quotation marks, and say, well , who, who sinned, but i would like you to say your word, here it is important for people to understand, where is god, if i do not have him i see, i don't

feel, all this is happening, and why do we need it? well, to the end of this question, we will answer, maybe at the end of the story, when the whole process will take place, then we will see everything in its entirety, but now christians have the key to interpret this reality, why? because we believe in a suffering god, not the god who is somewhere far away, somewhere on in heaven, in his kingdom. no, but god who became a man. we believe in the son of god, who entered human history, took on a human body and voluntarily. went to the cross, that is, today we, christians, see the suffering christ in the suffering of every

person. i want to share my such, maybe my own spiritual experience, you know, when i visit our wounded boys, or even civilians who were injured by bombings. you know well, it's just some kind of truly awe-inspiring awe at the suffering of people in ukraine, who have it god is really present, sometimes i caught myself thinking, you know, seeing those wounds, i say to myself: jesus, it is you, i see you in this person, and indeed, today christ is suffering. in the body of the suffering ukrainian people, that is why the pain and suffering of our savior in the body of a suffering ukrainian motivate christians

to acts of mercy, they call us not just to respect human suffering, but to protect human life, that is, it is something like that, i would say truly. the religious motive of all our social service, all that we we do for the protection and saving of human life in the name of god, this is not some kind of usual, i would say, philanthropy, but this is truly diaconia, that is, service, service to god through service to the needy. to a person, and this is not only my personal experience, but the whole of our church, you know, no one has ever asked, uh , in our communities, in our parishes, uh,

what church do you go to, what language do you speak, when we saw a person in need, a wounded person, a refugee, a person in need to be helped, warmed, er, or maybe even to advise, as well as... to proceed further in life, in life, here, and this is the secret of stability, i am convinced that here is the non-abstract, but very concrete presence of god among us, in particular because of, because of his suffering in the wounds of ukraine, this there is a very, very deep, i would say, foundation for the proclamation of christ. christ's gospel today in ukraine, that is why we say god is with us, because god is always in the one who suffers. there is such

an early christian sermon from the second century, even from the persecuted church, which said that christ was being killed in everyone who will be killed until the end of the world. christ was present. in joseph, who was sold into egypt, christ was present in abel, who was killed by cain in the old testament, and today he is present in every person who is in need, infirm, that is why we read in the gospel from matthew about the terrible judgment, says christ, what you did to one of my least, you did it to me, therefore... we christians know where god is present, we see him, and we want to serve the lord god and our long-suffering, but

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