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unfortunately, the number of dead in donetsk region in kurakhov increased to four , another eight people were injured, the regional prosecutor's office reported, the russians used hurricanes there, they hit the private sector and high-rise buildings in the middle of the city, the exact number of victims has not yet been reported, we understand that the rescue operation there is ongoing, we will inform you about it, and also remind our viewers about what you see. what the enemy is doing, how he is messing with the civilian infrastructure, and one can only guess what he is doing on the front line, the situation there is truly hellish, so once again we ask you to join the collection that we are currently holding with the vesna charity fund. our goal is uah 3.5 million for drones and drones for three units of the third separate 110th and 47th brigades, they are currently fighting in the donetsk direction, the situation is difficult there, themselves you understand, especially near... pokrovska, so

we ask you to please join in, you see the qr code now, please also show the qr code on the full screen, so that our viewers can scan it and go through this qr code at monobank, where we have already accumulated more than 1.5 million hryvnias with you. we ask all of you to be active, to join as much as possible. thank you that yesterday , or this morning, to be more precise, we were able to reach this figure of 1.5 million hryvnias. we still need to raise 2 million, which is a considerable amount. but we really ask you to help, because who but us, and thanks to the fact that the warriors are holding the front now, with such superpowers, we have the opportunity to live plus or minus in some such a peaceful life with you, so please join ayder mozhdabaev is joining us now, deputy general director of the crimean tatar tv channel, journalist, tv presenter, mr. ayder, congratulations, i am very glad to see you. it is always a pleasure to

deal with the espress tv channel, paneder, today we must congratulate, let's start with what we congratulate you, because, well, it’s not the anniversary yet, but it’s already been 18 years since the world’s first crimean-tatar tv channel atr started working, and you, like no one else, are currently involved in its activities and work, can you briefly reflect, please, how has changed, as the tv channel and the main challenges have developed over those 18 years. that exist today, well, you know, i really have been working at the atr tv channel since the 15th year, since the time when the atr tv channel was expelled from crimea, but i know the people who work there, have worked there for a long time, well, not since the beginning of broadcasting , but a long time ago, and a lot of people, by the way, from politicians, from public figures, from journalists who started... once on this crimean

channel of ours, which is the pride of the crimean people and the crimean people of ukraine, and i want you to know what to say, now the state of the tv channel the apr is very, very complicated, well, to understand it that way, we can't, and all these years when we are in exile, not in crimea, which is temporarily occupied, we can't actually do it. nothing, because we are a channel not about entertainment, not about commerce, not about anything else, but a channel which has always been about politics, about ukraine, about our unity and about our opposition to russia, so there is no profit there, state funding now, well, is half a percent of what it was a few years ago, well, that is, in fact, we receive very very very little money from the budget. we

understand that there is now a war, overcrowding, including, including for the liberation of crimea, now our lives are at stake, and... i just have the honor to tell you all that the director, general director of the tv channel ruslyamov is now a major of the armed forces forces of ukraine and the commander of the 48th separate assault battalion of the armed forces of ukraine named after noman chilbijahan, that is, for us , the priority now for everyone is the war and the support of our fighters, and the atr tv channel is currently working in such a minimal mode, we are helped a little by the state on... we are helped by the american partners who allowed us, well , it allowed us, more precisely, to restore satellite broadcasting to the crimea, the same thing we say on youtube, now there is no such line of programs as there was before, when there were

, i don’t know, 8-10 news releases per day , now we do news twice and we can afford one hour. well, in terms of such an interview, topical discussions, here it is, just cores, you and i are completely in solidarity, we understand the difficult conditions in which the whole team has to work, but you know, i just now you say it, and it's in my head these more than 2 billion or so hryvnias of public money, taxpayers, who unfortunately go to the telethon, and actually, well... it is sad that not all madiyaniks understand how difficult the situation in our country is now, and that it is possible some expenses should be diverted to other needs, well, but this is such, you know, a lyrical digression on my part, i would like you and i to cover the topic of how things are happening now and what life looks like in

the occupied crimea, because it is about the fact that after the successful attacks of the armed forces of ukraine, the russians began to intensify checks on residents, as i understand it, they are trying to find out... who is leaking information, who can transmit certain coordinates to the armed forces, and actually, as a result, successful operations of the defense forces of ukraine. what you know about the methods and how the russians are currently trying to attack those people who have a pro-ukrainian position, how difficult it is now for people who are for ukraine, who are against russia, not to fall into the hands of the russian special services, you are absolutely right , now there is a campaign to hunt down people who help the armed forces of ukraine to hit targets in crimea, the dissatisfaction of the pro-russian occupiers, in fact, of which there have been

many, it even spills out into the public space, they say where is our ppo, well , we know that they always they lie down when they eat flies by and of course, they blame disloyal people, pro-ukrainian people, primarily representatives of the indigenous crimean people for everything, and they are now very carefully checking all denunciations, they are checking people, they are checking even the elderly and teenagers, well, this is war, this is what here is another thing to say, this is war. and crimea is very clear, why it is a very important territory for the russian fuhrer and for their reich, but it is our land, and they know it in fact, and that is why they are now doing everything to

first of all, to suppress the resistance there, but it is not possible, and we see it every day and by the way, on er national flag day and national flags were placed on... mountains in such prominent places, this is now, this is during a full-scale war, when it can really cost life and freedom, absolutely no joke, and these are very brave people who do it, and i have seen such videos and photos, so it will not be possible to break it, and on the other hand they have returned, maybe someone he doesn't know, he hasn't heard, i'm always interesting to the audience from the press. i'm still telling you, now they're back to practices, don’t laugh, well, there’s nothing funny here, but they returned to the practices of the crimean wars from a century ago, they began to encourage people to go and fight in the terrorist russian army by promising er

plots of land near the sea in crimea, and i remembered that i once held such an old, very yellow copy in my hands. newspapers of the russian empire, i don't remember which one, newspapers over there, well, i don't remember the year 61, i think it was 1800, and there... it was written: join the russian army, you will get land in the crimea, that is nothing there is no new the truth is the difference is that some there began to guess, that they began to guess that it is not forever, that crimea is very vulnerable in this war, and nothing, nothing is guaranteed to them there, so the propaganda is intensified, well, as a compensation for this uncertainty, about what you also mentioned... persecution, propaganda, they lie about the fact that their holiday season is high there,

well, we know who goes there to vacation in crimea, it is mostly the so-called russian security forces, who are forbidden to leave anywhere except the territory so-called russia and occupied on its territory, here they go there, this is the appropriate contingent, so that there are tourists with pleasure, well, i don’t know there... it’s a dubious pleasure to blow at every step and just paint how everything is good for their internal consumer, mr. ayder, thank you for participation in our airwaves, once again congratulations on the anniversary ayder muzhdabayev, deputy general director of the crimean tatar tv channel atr, our colleague, journalist and tv presenter was with us, and we will also say goodbye to marta on this, we wish you a peaceful, safe sunday evening, take care, schoolchildren, good luck to students. school year, so that there would be no worries, that we would not have to spend a lot of time in shelters, and that the knowledge would later

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money at the moment. however, how to unite the country in the process of recovery. project program of urban reconstruction and development, every saturday at 18:30 at espresso. congratulations, this is a special project for independence day, bright people in dark times. my name is andriy saichuk, and today the guest of our studio is professor yaroslav rytsak, a historian. mr. yaroslav, i congratulate you. congratulations, mr. andriy. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. 33 years old. you know, a symbolic age, ukraine is going through, and we are going through a very difficult time now, you can probably make interim summaries, er, many people could probably say today that we could have achieved more, and many people are probably shocked today, that we are now so capable and strong on the contrary.

are you among the optimists, evaluating these 33 years now, or could more have been done? belongs to the group called cynical optimists, this term was once used by oleksandr pashvar, i really liked it, i took it for myself it is in service, i speak as a historian, and you know, the question of what to measure against is always a criterion where to compare, and my thesis is very simple, we cannot compare ukraine with, let’s say, modern poland or modern france , because poland is modern or france has much longer than independence, we are a young state, 33 years old. this is youth, still youth, and if we want a modern ukraine, we must accept, say, poland in 1839, 1842, or france in 1830, it is very important to me, that is, i say that young states have their own certain laws, certain features , and we are these features we are experiencing, and in particular, in particular these features are present, this is the era of revolutionary war, because the old,

the old regime is dying very willingly, so violence cannot be done without. i just see us in this day and age, on average, they think it's a very obvious language assessment that such a transition lasts 50 years, of course, one can understand that now it's conditional, because it can be faster, and it accelerates these things, but if you look at from this perspective, if we compare ukraine with, say, poland in 1942, or even france in 1830, we see that ukraine is still very different, different, because since that time these countries have already lost, gained independence, lost independence, very badly too. certain features, let's say, what is characteristic of young states, they are mostly glued together from pieces, from pieces of different regions, strong regionalism, separatism, political instability, governments change, you know, like gloves, presidents are killed, there are attempts, there are coups, corruption, you know, this is a height, that is, when you look at this perspective, you understand that ukraine is working in this mode, if you are in

this regime, surprisingly, ukraine has been quite stable, even surprisingly stable, so in that sense i am her. optimist actually we could say that now the 34th day doesn't matter because we know that in the year 90 we already celebrated independence, i thought that it was an independent state after the declaration was passed wrong because it was sovereignty, between sovereignty and independence, there is a difference after all, because sovereignty assumed that we are part of some larger structure, i do not completely rule out that when we enter the european union, uh, we will lose some of our independence, become sovereign, i would say this as a scenario, i am not saying that it must necessarily ... happen, but in the 19th year there was an idea of ​​sovereignty, that is, the maximum possible rights political culture, but within the framework of the renewed soviet union, it was, it was an important achievement, but it was another step, almost not that step, it was almost, you know, it's miles and miles to go to this independence, you like to repeat that , so that in order to understand where you

will find yourself in 10-20 years, it is necessary to understand where you were 10-20 years ago later, is this determinism historical not... it is possible to bypass, does this mean that we are doomed to a very, very slow, i am not saying that, i am saying that where and from when where you go depends on where you depend on where you go sorry where you go depends on where you come from i 'm not saying there's only one road, there's just different paths, it's just that , that the scenario is that one path is more possible, the other is less possible, that is, i repeat all the time, history is not a coach, does not impose restrictions on us, but it does not deprive us of choice, so i think that there are no more such moments of crisis in ukraine and ukrainians made the right elections, that is, they voted for independence in 1991, it is very important that in 1994 we did not let the country fall apart. although the chances were or the threat was very high, i will remind you, i remind you all the time , that they made such a prediction that ukraine will fall apart immediately, there will be a civil war between the east and the west,

ukraine is roughly like the american war with the north and south of america, the states of america, that's right ukrainians themselves overcame the crisis of 1996, none of us remembers the cossacks, except for older people like me, this is a constitutional crisis, and two maidans, because the two maidans were actually moments of crisis, when also it was about the existence of ukraine, the last ones, this is the war of 14 years, the war of 22 years, if you know it from that point of view, ukraine is quite, i repeat again, quite a stable structure, and nothing allows to be broken, and this is what causes on the one hand surprise, and on the other hand a certain respect, with what we have to get out of this war, or this war is nation-building, and yes and no, you see, what is nation-building, you need to explain to yourself, because we believe that nations are created once and named, yes, and somewhere there you have to come to... somewhere a moment that a nation will be created and will be, well there is such a primordial such a thesis, i think, this is my point of view, that nations are created endlessly, there is no such thing, the creation of a nation is like riding a bicycle, do not pay attention to

electronic, electric, but because where you have to turn the pedals, you have to pedaling all the time, if you tire of pedaling, you fall off the bike, ditto, niggas creations never end, you can simply take different forms, different circumstances, everything else, but here it is, that is, from that point of view , i believe that it is happening now. in us, i'm sorry, i'm afraid i'm going to give you a long lecture, i wouldn't like to give that long lecture, but still what can i say, that there is such a division, which is very often repeated, that there are two different types of nations, and nations ethnic, united by language and historical memory, let's say like modern poland or hungary, and also political nations, which are united by common loyalty to the state, let's say great britain, which consists of four structures, or the large states of america, 50 states, or switzerland. not in the sense which suits us better, but which will be bistical, uh, which will allow us to gain independence,

and what i am saying now that this opposition is largely conditional, because in the world there are neither pure ethnic nor pure political nations, it is said that every political nation is formed from an ethnic core, and my thesis, why am i making such a long introduction, my thesis is that now in ukraine a new nucleus is formed. and i would call this core, it is the young or younger middle class, who mostly live in such cities that do not have a complete soviet memory, who may or may not still speak russian , but there is no particular sympathy for russia or to russian culture, which sees itself in the west, and this core itself, that is , what this nation will be like, depends on what this core will be, what will happen to that core, my thesis was that... to a large extent maidan, it will be their revolution of this generation, no think that i am paying you a compliment, but this is objective, i also include you in this class for myself, you, you and you, your environment,

you know, i always have the feeling that if, if we are talking about some class, the middle class, then it is extremely small and affects little, its size does not matter, what matters is its motivation, mobility, you know, cohesion, what paschaver said again, can be 1%. but everything is so high-quality, it sets the tone, you know, i say this all the time, because this is a generation, for me this is a generation, these are young people, because they grew up after the fall of the soviet union, they grew up in independence, this is the generation of independence, this is the class of independence that grew up there, you know, i always say this is an example that a generation, it has no taste in itself, the fact that people were born in the same time does not make more generations, you know, it is like moldy dough that has no taste, who gives the taste of a generation? salt, a small part, but it is about who will be the salt of this generation, who will take the vote, who will form the political program of this generation and all other things like that. my observation now is that

this generation is more political, because it is bilingual, bilingual by chance, and it is evenly, we can say, spread all over ukraine, in big cities, whether in lviv, or in dnipro, or in kharkiv, or in odesa, even for some time they did not form in donetsk, we know these, you know, large rallies that took place in donetsk. super since before the secession, there were many people there, but what is very important is that this generation is bilingual, but it gradually begins to ethno-nationalize, that is, it switches to the ukrainian language, to ukrainian markers, because the ukrainian culture will be shaped accordingly, if so, if so, then the forecast is very simple: in two or three generations, ukraine will become an ethnic state, this will be a new image of ukrainian ukraine in some time, let's say so, the image will be formed, whatever ? i don't know, because it depends on many circumstances, firstly, how the war will end, how long will the war last, how will the war end, what, let's say, will be the level of our losses, and again, it can be said that this generation is at the front, it

loses a lot for... now, unfortunately, on it is a great pity, knowing what the future of ukraine will be, where it will be, i assume that there will be a european union and i hope and hope for that, there are not many other factors that i can talk about, but i have such a friend who himself is a social philologist, a linguist, he himself works in edinburgh, has such a strange part of tomyško musel, he is a selesian, or, how to say, it is difficult to recognize whether he is a pole or a german. you know, it's a celesia, but he has one very simple prediction, he says that whenever processes are started that are very similar to those the processes that once took place in poland or slovakia, relatively speaking, the time when the russian-speaking or russian-speaking part of the population will become a minority in two or three generations, just like the german-speaking in poland or the hungarian in slovakia, these are the processes, again, let's live let's see, these are very cautious, cautious forecasts, but i want

to say that now in ukraine, when... this creation, both the ethnic element and the political element are equally strong, although the political, the political wins, prevails, but again, this is the effect of the war , because windows, war mostly ethnonationalizes, this is the rule, look at what happened to israel in 1967, we have a living example of this before our eyes, well, they just revived their dead language and they created this state from scratch, well, yes, but in 1967 you know, by the year 67, poland was israel, if we say so, more liberal, more left-wing, you know, more inclusive, that's what it's called, that year it changed a lot, wars change, let's live and see, because it doesn't have this effect , it's still too early to say, but at least there is a trend, we see this trend, the problem with russia is that it has actually appropriated a large piece of our history, our culture, somewhere in part i don’t know, that is, it claims this inheritance, and recently timothy esh said about this . ugh, you're talking about

the fact that, in fact, it's a bit funny when you try to explain on international platforms somewhere that russian culture is bad there, it's secondary there and so on, just focus on the fact that you are now good, strong now, then that you have good now, but on the other hand, it doesn’t matter if we don’t end up having to somehow distinguish where the ukrainian ends and the russian begins, especially as it is difficult in russia, whether it has its own hydro, i will now say that it is not probably most of you listeners will like it, but... this is a thesis that i once heard from professor roman shpolyuk, who was and remains to a large extent a guru, a professor at harvard, i believe that he is definitely a strong force of our generation, the way of thinking, and he once told it for a discussion, do you know if it exists ukrainian dostoevsky, and this discussion also had such, then i found out whether such a discussion was already real, whether there is an african dostoevsky, where in africa is dostoevsky, uh, and the question is very simple,

the answer is very simple, dostoevsky... translated into any what african language becomes african dostoevsky, do you understand? dostoevsky, translated into ukrainian , becomes ukrainian dostoevsky. i'm not saying it necessarily has to be popular or anything, but it functions in this culture. of course, we can talk about him toxicity ugh. it is very important. that is, this is exactly the question of whose gogul is ukrainian or russian. the one who interprets it better, the one who inherits it better, the one who better makes films about based on it, you see, it is very important. that is, it is there, because it is again, it is on a bicycle, it is not me, which means it is already ready. what do we have ready in ukrainian or do we have doubts that shevchenko, without a doubt, must be interpreted in russian, we don't , but we have a lot of figures that are so- called liminal, they belong at the same time to two cultures, and you have to fight for them, i think that many of them have to be fought, maybe you don't have to fight with dostoyevsky, i don't know that, although i think that dostoyevsky , with all his toxicity, terrible toxicity, is a great writer, without him, let's say, you can't imagine many things,

but my thesis is this, my hope is this, i hope that the war will give and has already given, a great deal almost to ukrainian culture, to the dynamics of ukrainian culture, because war is the closing crisis of the situation limits, that is, the feeling as a whole different, emotions are sharper, we see something else that those who live in peace do not see, and you know, i am giving a simple historical example here, but it may sound... banal, but still, sometimes big things are a little banal we understand that the great greek culture was born from the greco-persian wars. it would not have been the greco-persian wars, there would not have been this surge. almost all the great greeks we know either participated directly in this war or were born before this war. the very feeling that a small nation could transfer to the forehead, stand up to a great, great empire, you know.